Starcraft 2 (Info on first post!)

[Kenrawr]

hi i'm ankoku and am forever idle

 

[ArcNatural]

I just don't want a placement match involving protoss ; ;

Gonna play some warmup games today then get it over with though.

Anyone watching the Korea vs World matches? I heard they were amazing so I'm probably going to watch them soon.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yeah i watched them all. Went down to the very last game, which ended up being a ZvZ.

 

[Zankoku]

Yo Dimaga's mad awesome though. He could've taken it.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yeah he coulda. Nestea's +1 timing was super strong, though. I think i might start doing a similar strategy to that in my zvzs. The thing i dont get, though, is how nestea knew he could get away with droning so hard after the initial rush. If i did the exact same thing in a ladder match, i would die 2 minutes later to a speedling all in or something.


also, white-ra vs MC PvP was insane.

 

[rhan]

I'm Gold in 1v1's now. lmaoooo

Told you guys I was bad. xD

 

[Zankoku]

I'm partly scared that I'd get placed into Diamond if I played my match.

 

[Scar]

i still wanna play~!!!!

someone add me on aim or gchat or something

or switch to PM! or make a sc2 chat group (i bet you already did)

 

[Omni]

the official SC2 chat group is called: Smashboards

 

[M@v]

I got placed back into Diamond. Still losing to toss players T_T

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yeah i lost to a toss in a long macro game. i thought i was winning, and percieved a timing window as i was nearing max when i thought he would be weak. Later i found out i didnt make enough drones and his econ ended up destroying mine even though i had 5 bases to his 3

 

[Cynan Machae]

now? Tomorrow? idk man i dont wanna commit to anything and be a flake

if u idle yours ill idle mine

I'll try to be on now, later tonight and if not then tomorrow as well

 

[M@v]

I have 1 simple goal this ladder season:

Master's league.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Same. Im on right now if anyone wants to play hit me up. I'll check the smashboards channel as much as i can.

 

[rhan]

I'm actually not mad about being gold. It just means I won't be so afraid of playing 1v1's now.

I'm probably going to go Random until I get that Reaper picture now.

 

[Zankoku]

MLG Dallas is this weekend!

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

 

[Sion]

Same. Im on right now if anyone wants to play hit me up. I'll check the smashboards channel as much as i can.

i'll play you a couple games

my pvz needs work =P

 

[Hylian]

I played one practice match because I haven't played in forever and won. Looked at the guys account and he was in masters. Feeling pretty confident I decided to play my placement match after that one and only practice match.

I lost. lol. Still got placed back into diamond, but damn sandbagging in custom games :/.

 

[Zankoku]

The only two times I've ever beaten a Master League player were when my friend wanted to test new Hotkeys and when I wanted Overswarm to try a cheese against me.

 

[Scar]

ya i wanna hit master too

i need to learn a lot though

my late game is way weaker than my early / mid

if anyone needs practice vs P let me know

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

scar i could use some practice in that MU

 

[ArcNatural]

I placed plat! My goal is to get mid-high diamond at least this season. If anyone wants to play let me know via SCII or aim TheOnesThatAre.

I'm often around my comp when I'm home so I'll be down to play.

 

[rhan]

Kinda don't want to play this game until Infestors get fixed cuz they're pretty imba.

That fungal needs a range deduction..

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

r u kidding me? There is nothing wrong with the range.

i'm glad zerg actually has a unit that can deal AoE damage.


edit- other than the baneling which dies to tanks really easy lol

 

[terr13]

Infestor range should be the same as Psi Storm and EMP. I don't think it's that imbalanced at all, unless the T or P is trying to be extremely aggressive. Otherwise, it's mostly the Z trying to charge in while the T or P kites backwards, and Infestors trying to move up to fungal them properly.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yeah not to mention fungal is still nothing compared to the damage output of psistorm or emp

 

[Omni]

Kinda don't want to play this game until Infestors get fixed cuz they're pretty imba.

That fungal needs a range deduction..

No jo hns.

 

[rhan]

The fact that we're stunned and our army is softened up so that your main army can just stop on us just seems unfair. Especially when the range is about equal as the Ghost EMP or the Storm/Feedback. So it's a split second thing we have to target one specific unit while you target any unit in our army.

Storm does amazing damage but we're allowed to run away and at least save our army and possibly get those recovered.




Anyway I would like to practice some TvT soon.

 

[terr13]

Actually with Storm, you can't run away very well with FF in your way. EMP negates other spellcasters, FG doesn't. There's a bunch of pros and cons for each of them, but calling FG imbalanced right now seems a bit premature, although it did receive a decent buff, and was already quite good before that.

 

[Zankoku]

I don't think anybody on these boards actually has the authority to say things are underpowered or overpowered in SC2.

 

[rhan]

Terr13: Force Fields are an added variable. I was reffering to the stright up storm vs running out of the storm.

Ankoku: Everyone is entitled to their views. No matter what. Saying things like that is just ignorant and discriminatory. :/

Though I will say calling it imba is a little harsh but it's definitely too strong.

 

[Zankoku]

Views and opinions are fine. It still gives nobody any authority.

Also, you better run out of a Storm, it deals 80 damage, compared to Fungal's 35 (or 46 vs Armored)

 

[M@v]

I don't think anybody on these boards actually has the authority to say things are underpowered or overpowered in SC2.

Maybe so, but I'd still love to know how to deal with colossi without gearing my whole strategy towards it and spending waaaaay more than he does on colossi to counter them. Even then it doesn't always work.


I've beaten Overswarm once, although I haven't really played him much(PRACTICE TVZ WITH ME MAN), and I beat another Master Z by harassing the living **** out of him all game.


@rhan. I hear ghosts do ok, but I prefer siege tanks. Seriously. They aren't that great vs protoss, but they roflstomp pretty much everything zerg has on the ground, even infestors. They outrange them and they deal full damage vs them. As long as you have some sort of supporting unit(usually marines). Once you get to mid-late game, marine/tank/thor with blue flame hellions for harass is kick ***.

 

[Omni]

I've been watching a lot of TvP lately, Mav.

I feel like the key is to limit how many Colossi Protoss builds by constantly harassing them. If Protoss is getting Colossi they're probably getting their 2nd or they already have it. At that point, I think it's key to prevent Protoss from securing that 2nd by putting constant pressure on it. That forces Protoss to divert thier attention and if you're constantly harassing their other two bases at the same time it divides his forces.

If he keeps his forces together then you're free to wreak havoc on his mineral lines. And if he splits then his colossi has less stalker support = more chances for Vikings to pick them off.

Theory crafting.

 

[Zankoku]

2 base Colossi is pretty unstable, unless you let them sit there and mass up a 200 army. Otherwise, putting more money into Marauders and adding some Vikings usually does the trick. 1 base Colossi had better be an all-in.

The key to beating Protoss with Terran has traditionally been about preventing the Protoss from reaching their top tier tech and maxing out on it. I've been messing around with figuring out how endgame Terran might work out, though. I'll give updates if I find anything.

I've been recommending to P players that placing Cannons in their worker lines might be a good idea if they don't have the awareness to watch out for any random drop harass that might happen.

 

[Kenrawr]

I don't think anybody on these boards actually has the authority to say things are underpowered or overpowered in SC2.

rofl@authority. wow.

no u.

 

[Overswarm]

I don't remember playing Mav, but I do a lot of stupid things in customs so that's possible XD

 

[Zankoku]

rofl@authority. wow.

no u.

I'm not quite sure how the "no u" even works in this context. "Anybody" includes myself, if that wasn't already clear. : P

 

[M@v]

I don't remember playing Mav, but I do a lot of stupid things in customs so that's possible XD

I just reacted to everything you did. Then we played a few matches where you asked me to do certain builds.


Then one game you eco busted me T_T

 

[Kenrawr]

I'm not quite sure how the "no u" even works in this context. "Anybody" includes myself, if that wasn't already clear. : P

they're just sharing their opinions like you ALWAYS do whenever you disagree with something : P

reading the debates are fun for me. don't discourage it with that authority bs you jerk. even if sometimes it gets a lil more QQ'y than productive.

also play me. PLAY ME!