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Stage Information Database and Q&A

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~Stage Information Database and Q&A~




Stage Information Center
"BBR Stage Analysis Project" by MetalMusicMan
Made by the Brawl Backroom, this thread scratches the surface on every single stage in Brawl, detailing stage information, strategies, and legality. If you want to understand a little bit more about a stage, this should be your first stop.
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=307804



"Stage Research & Guide Directory" by Raziek
The main directory for in-depth stage information and research. If you're looking for in-depth information on a certain stage, this thread should be your #1 source of information. If you have a guide to submit, please do so in this wonderful thread, otherwise, please enjoy the wealth of information.
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=291618



"The Stage Glitch and Info Amazarium" by Meno
A good thread to discover major glitches in each stage. Check it out!
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214619



"Weekly Stage Discussions Directory" by Twinkie
A project by an earlier stage community that tried to compile hard data on every stage weekly. The project died quickly due to laziness, but there's still some valuable information in the discussions for each thread that's worth digging through.
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=315026



""Why is this stage banned?" A Q&A regarding stage legality" by Sunshade
A very good resource for determining the legality of a certain stage. Whether or not a stage should be legal is subjective, but this thread bundles all the common reasons together and applies them to each stage in an organized, easy to understand fashion. It's a good first stop to understanding stage legality.
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=278606



"Grim's Views on Stage Legality - The "Competitive" Criteria" by Grim Tuesday
This thread attempts to rank each stage's competitive value relative to each other based on the criterias that are established in the beginning of the thread. Furthermore, he discusses the relationship between rules that relate to stages and his competitive critera. It's a very good read even though it's all just the personal opinion of one person.
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=315529



Question and Answers
Okay so you read all the threads listed above and you're like, "Man all these guides suck, they didn't help me at all! :mad:" and you're still left with questions without answers. Or perhaps you're just really lazy and thought, "Why read through a bunch of threads when asking is much easier?"

Well no fear, 'cause this thread also doubles as a Q&A thread! If you have any questions, just ask!


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The Crew!

If you want to be listed below, you got to follow this format:

Username
Name: (Optional)
Location:
Stance: Liberal or Conservative
Tier: (debating tier, if you have one)
Mains: (use character icons)
Secondaries: (use character icons)
Favourite Stage(s):
Other: (any random line, make it short)
Personal Ruleset: (make a single post in this thread with your ideal ruleset)

-LzR-
Name: Alex
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Stance: Really liberal, BPC fan
Tier: WTF is this?
Main: :gw:
Seconds: :rob:
Favorite stages: Brinstar, Pictochat, Frigate
Other. Tournament organizer


Akaku94
Name: Ben
Stance: Liberal Stages, Conservative Politics!
Tier: Slightly above Ganondorf
Mains: :kirby2:
Secondaries: :pikachu2: :sheilda:
Favourite Stage(s): PS2, Pictochat


AuraStUrm
Name: Carter Smith (Aura)
Location: Nebraska
Stance: FAR LEFT JERK OFF
Tier: Is this just so people can feel smugly superior or something? I like it
Mains: :marth: :falco: :toonlink:
Secondaries: :diddy: :lucario:
Favourite Stage(s): Norfair
Other: My state is the worst


BSP
Name: Brian Pierre
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Stance: Moderate I guess, it really depends
Tier: Mid-Low
Mains: :sonic:
Secondaries: :luigi2: :random:
Favorite Stage: Brinstar!!!
Other: **** Pictochat :troll:


Budget Player Cadet_
Name: Jonah Swersey (The Cadet[?])
Location: Bavaria, in Germany
Stance: Heavy Liberal; PS2phile
Tier: High
Main: :metaknight: :random:
Favourite Stage: Port Town Aero Dive [?]
Other: PTAD FTW


chaosmaster1991
Location: Germany


Chuee
Location: KY
Stance: Liberal or Conservative: SV only
Tier: nope
Mains: :lucas:
Secondaries: every other character
Favourite Stage(s): SV
Other: No items, MK only, Smashville


Destiny Warrior
Location: Chennai, India
Stance: Liberal(keep everything unbanned!)
Mains: :toonlink:
Secondaries: :metaknight: :dedede: :wolf: :wario: :falco: :olimar: :pikachu2: :jigglypuff: :gw: :marth: :lucario:
Favourite Stage(s):
Other: I'm the best Smasher in India :p


ElDominio
Name: Nawrm
Location: PR, I would be next to TWiNK (TWINKIE THE GAY BAR) if he hadn't move a million miles away.
Stance: Liberal (not in life thought)
Tier: Sawnik Tier
Mains: :sonic:
Secondaries: :falco:
Favourite Stage(s): Frigate Orpheon, Corneria
Other: Sawnik for steak tier


Ghostbone
Name: Joshua
Location: South Wallaby Land
Stance: Conservative by definition (want to conserve as much of the game as possible)
Tier: :awesome: tier
Mains: :peach:
Secondaries: :dedede: :diddy:
Favourite Stage: Dreamland 64
Other: Brawl sucks....


Grim Tuesday
Name: Mason Spangler (Grim Tuesday)
Location: Adelaide, South Australia, AUS
Stance: Liberal Extremist
Tier: High
Mains: :jigglypuff: :gw:
Secondaries: :popo:
Favourite Stage: Mario Bros.
Other: I support Mario Bros.
Personal Ruleset: Grim's Theory-Based/Practical Ruleset


InferiorityComplex
Name: Incom
Location: western PA
Stance: Open-list (~=liberal) w/ 2-3 stage bans; hybrid CP system; dislike BRC
Tier: Lazy
Mains: :sonic: :marth:
Secondaries: pretty much everyone else
Favorite Stages: Norfair, DP for uncommonly used stages; Delfino, CS among more-common stages
Least Favorite Stages: Brinstar, Halberd. They're balanced enough for tournament play, I just dislike them.
Other: My tag is because I suck, not because I have a problem.
Debating Style: answer an opponent's entire argument at first, then pare the whole thing down to one major weakness. Unless I'm playing Mafia, in which case I go for information overload as a form of self-defense.
Personal Ruleset: InCom Ruleset 0.5


Judo
Name: Unknown......
Location: Louisville/Lexington Kentucky
Stance: Bonetti's Defense (lol)
Tier: Free
Mains: :sheik: :sheilda:
Secondaries: :snake: :gw:
Favourite Stage(s): Battlefield and Norfair
Other: did you know you can turn pause off?
Personal Ruleset: not sure


Kuro~
Name: Tre, TJ, or Will.
Location: APK BOI!!!! (Apopka, Florida lol)
Stance: Moderate
Tier: Rising?
Mains: :pit: :snake:
Secondaries: :wario: :metaknight:
Favourite Stage(s): Depends on which character I always had "fun" on picto but competitively...i'd prolly have to say Lylat or Yoshi's Island for neutrals and Frigate for CP.
Other: Willy Wonka:"Everything in this room is eatable, even *I'm* eatable! But that is called "cannibalism," my dear children, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies. "


kyokoro_pamuyo
Name: People actually calls me Kyo
Location: San Luis Potosi, Mexico
Stance: Ban only if proven broken.
Tier: Lurker
Mains: :metaknight:
Secondaries: :zelda: :sheilda: :marth: :dedede: :zerosuitsamus: :snake:
Favourite Stage: Pictochat 4evr!
Other: I'm not good at english debating...
Personal Ruleset: (working on it).
quick ruleset spoilers:
option 1: MK banned, 21 stages
option 2: MK allowed, 11 stages



MK26
Name: (scrubbed)
Location: Canada
Stance: moderately liberal
Tier: scrub tier
Mains: :kirby2:
Secondaries: ¯\(°_o)/¯
Least Favourite Stage: Smashville
Other: willing to make large walls of text
Personal Ruleset: Maestro's Ruleset


Raziek
Name: Jordan McGee
Location: Halifax, NS, Canada
Stance: Semi-Radical Liberal
Tier: God Tier
Mains: :marth:
Secondaries: :wolf: :snake:
Favourite Stages: Norfair, Brinstar, Jungle Japes, Pokemon Stadium 2
Least Favourite Stages: Final Destination
Personal Ruleset: Official Smash Halifax Ruleset


Red Ryu
Name: Red Ryu
Location: Hartland Wisconsin or Milwaukee Wisconsin
Stance: Middle, I respect both sides.
Tier: [?]
Main: :lucario:
Favourite Stage: Final Destination/Norfair/Castle Siege [?]
Other: I love FD, Norfair, and Castle Siege.


Ripple
Name: Blake Curry (I prefer to be called Rip/Ripple over my real name)
Location: St. Louis, MO
Stance: Liberal
Tier: :troll:
Mains: :dk2:
Secondaries: :lucario: :pikachu2:
Favorite Stage: Frigate
Other: slowly learning how to debate. give me a year or 2 and you'll know me well


Sunshade
Name: Jacob Jochum
Location: Washington DC
Stance: Liberal
Tier: meh
Mains: :metaknight:
Secondaries: :falco: :pit:
Favourite Stage: Smashville, Delfino plaza, Distant planet
Other: I cant think of anything note worthy to put here that would not just be bragging :/


Tarmogoyf
Name: Walker
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Stance: Liberal, but pragmatic
Tier: Ummm, I'm the second best player in my state. (means little, it's NM)
Mains: :popo:
Secondaries: :metaknight: :wario:
Favourite Stage(s): Battlefield, Jungle Japes
Personal Ruleset: Tarmogoyf's Ruleset


T-Block
Name: Michael Wong
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Stance: Non-radical liberal
Tier: Bottom
Mains: :pt: :diddy:
Secondaries: :jigglypuff: :lucas: :sheik: :olimar:
Favourite Stages: Pictochat, Yoshi's Island (Melee), Pokemon Stadium 1
Least Favourite Stages: Yoshi's Island (Brawl)
Other: Tetris fanatic



Rules:



#1: THE GLOBAL RULES STILL APPLY HERE.

#2: Don't reply to people who obviously didn't see rule #1.
This should also be simple. If someone comes in and is like "Lol, Post Count +1", ignore them and pretend it never happened.

#3: This thread can and will be locked at any time. If I feel things are getting out of hand, then I'll go ahead and lock this thread for a certain period of time. The OP has a lot of information, so closing it really won't bug me.

#4. Have fun!
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I'd say most likely

God Tier:
AA
Raziek

High Tier:
SuSa (dropped)
Twinkie
Sunshade
BPC
AZ

Mid Tier
RR
Ghostbone
GrimFandango
Tesh
DMG

Low Tier
ADHD
DEHF
Jebus
TJ people

btw, it would be nice to have a display of the main people here (just like character boards) =P
 

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he's too cool for us lawl.

if he'd post more often, we'd see more great, good, mind-blowing wall-o-text's
 

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Not IIRC, only stagelist I've seen in his posts is the BalancedBrawl one (which is amazingly large)
 
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Glad to see you guys alreaady making good use of this thread! Anyways, someone mentioned putting little profiles of the frequenters in the OP, which is a good idea. Wanna elaborate on that?
 

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Hmm...

We could do something like:
Name: Could be real name or username
Location: Only a country is needed but people could mention states or cities as well
Stance: Liberal/Conservative/Other, I guess?
Tier Position: olololol
Other Information: Anything else that could be related to stage discussion

So I would do:
Name: Mason Spangler (Grim Tuesday)
Location: Adelaide, South Australia, AUS
Stance: Liberal Extremist
Tier: Upper
Other Info: I main Meta Knight and my favourite stage is Delfino Plaza.
 

Ghostbone

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Stage debaters tier list IMO (lolz this thing is ********)
No particular order between tiers.

Top tier: AA, Raziek

High tier: Twinkie, AZ, BPC

Upper tier: DMG, Sunshade, RR, Me, Grim, IC

Mid tier: -LzR-, Tesh, UberMario

Low tier: ADHD, DEHF

Bottom tier: Jebus, Blacknight

Negligible tier: Albert, Japanese

Upper and mid used to be one tier but it was too big so I split it....
 

-LzR-

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Me in the same tier as DMG? But DMG actually knows his stuff, should be top tier :D
 
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I'm satisfied with my spot. :) DMG could also be higher.

And

Name: Could be real name or username
Location: Only a country is needed but people could mention states or cities as well
Stance: Liberal/Conservative/Other, I guess?
Tier Position: olololol
Other Information: Anything else that could be related to stage discussion

Anything else guys? I figured that Mains would make a good category. I've seen some GDs with pictures. I'd allow that. I'll go ahead and start making these profiles when I wake up tomorrow along with some questions for the FAQ.
 

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I agree.

DMG should also be above me as well.
Ok I shall move DMG up then.
Maybe we should have a vote for the tier list or something.



And for the profile thing, probably add a section for mains/secondaries.
Maybe put your first name after the username or something.

So mine's

Name: Ghostbone (Joshua)
Location: South Australia
Stance: Mostly Liberal
Tier Position: Upper
Mains: Diddy, MK. Secondaries: D3, G&W, IC
Other Information: My favourite stage is Delfino Plaza or PTAD. I theory-craft too much >.>
 

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GrimFandango:
Name: Mason Spangler (Grim Tuesday)
Location: Adelaide, South Australia, AUS
Stance: Liberal Extremist
Tier: Upper
Mains: Meta Knight, Pokemon Trainer
Secondaries: Yoshi, Snake
Favourite Stage: Delfino Plaza
Other: I once supported Mario Bros.

Ghostbone:
Name: Joshua (Ghostbone)
Location: South Australia
Stance: Mostly Liberal
Tier: Upper
Mains: Diddy, Meta Knight
Secondaries: King Dedede, Mr. Game & Watch, Ice Climbers
Favourite Stage: Delfino Plaza/Port Town Aero Dive
Other: I theory-craft too much >.>

Budget Player Cadet_:
Name: Jonah Swersey (The Cadet[?])
Location: Bavaria, in Germany
Stance: Heavy Liberal; PS2phile
Tier: High
Main: Meta Knight [?]
Favourite Stage: Port Town Aero Dive [?]
Other: PTAD FTW

Red Ryu:
Name: Red Ryu
Location: Hartland Wisconsin or Milwaukee Wisconsin
Stance: Middle, I respect both sides.
Tier: [?]
Main: Lucario
Favourite Stage: Final Destination/Norfair/Castle Siege [?]
Other: I love FD, Norfair, and Castle Siege.

kyokoro_pamuyo:
Name: Kyo
Location: San Luis Potosi, Mexico
Stance: Heavy Liberal
Tier: [?]
Mains: Meta Knight, Zelda
Favourite Stage: Pictochat
Other: I'm not good at english debating... )=

Copy this into the OP, I guess.

 

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Name: Red Ryu
Location: Hartland Wisconsin or Milwaukee Wisconsin
Stance: Middle, I respect both sides.
Tier Position: Dunno I'll let other people figure that out
Other Information: I love FD, Norfair, and Castle Siege. I main Lucario.
 

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Link? Sounds interesting.
Starter

Battlefield
Final Destination
Delfino Plaza
Yoshi's Island (Brawl)
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Castle Siege
Smashville
PictoChat
Pokemon Stadium 1
WiFi Training Room (select Hanenbow)

NOTE: Rather than making a Starter/Counterpick section, it is just to be understood that removing any and exactly two of these stages from the Starter list to make a list of nine is not to be considered a deviation from the recommended rules.

Counterpick

Luigi's Mansion
Mushroomy Kingdom 1-1 (hold X or Y)
Mario Circuit
Norfair
Frigate Orpheon
Pokemon Stadium 2
Distant Planet
Yoshi's Island (Melee)
Jungle Japes
Onett
Corneria
Rainbow Cruise
Green Greens
Brinstar

Counterpick/Banned (most favorable to least favorable, roughly)

Spear Pillar: Dialga (hold X or Y)
Spear Pillar: Cresselia (hold X or Y AND L or R)
Green Hill Zone
Bridge of Eldin
Big Blue
Port Town Aero Dive
Temple
Pirate Ship
Skyworld
Shadow Moses Island

Banned

Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 (hold L or R)
Rumble Falls
Spear Pillar: Palkia (hold L or R)
WarioWare Inc.
New Pork City
Summit
75m
Mario Bros.
Flat Zone 2
Hanenbow

Here


I can't see the logic in having walk-off stages.
There are no Chaingrabs.
That's why.


So... my profile would be:

Name: People call me Kyo IRL
Location: San Luis Potosi, Mexico
Stance: High Liberal.
Tier Position: I'm not good at english debating... )=
Main: MetaKnight, Zelda
Favourite Stage: Pictochat =)
 

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Well, no chaingrabs just means that you can't get mindlessly thrown offstage. Other than that, if you constantly do safe stuff and put them in uncomfortable positions, means they're playing in a high-risk/high-reward game.
 

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IDK Diddy's safe stuff lol
Uhhhh... Throw a nanner directly from above in order to make DDD move?
 
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