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Duster72

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Samus' page links to Other M. Backwards compatibility..... this isn't a PS4 game.
Well… fair enough, but that's still a little different since it's the most recent game in the series. Unless you count Nintendo Land lol. And I mean really, what are they going to put as a link for Captain Falcon or Ice Climbers? Probably Virtual Console pages for Ice Climber and F-Zero.
 

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If anything the fact that Marth's page links to Awakening indicates that a stage could easily be attributed to him as well.
 

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If anything the fact that Marth's page links to Awakening indicates that a stage could easily be attributed to him as well.
You seemed to miss the part where it was established that his page only links to Awakening outside of Japan. It's definitely possible that Marth could be the Awakening representative. He is sort of in the game, both as DLC and the spoiler that everyone knows. But I highly doubt it if his page links to an earlier game in Japan. That's practically confirmation, if you ask me.

EDIT: Sort of ninja'd??? Forums work too fast for me. I'm too old for this.
 
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So? It links to Awakening on the Europe one, so clearly they aren't adverse to associating him with that game.
Sorry to clog up this thread with short responses, but ugh. It links to Awakening on the European, American, and most versions of the site. Only the Japanese links to MotE.

Mystery of the Emblem is a Japan-only game that stars Marth. It is not available in other countries.
 
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So, I think you just managed to erase any reservations I had about this inclusion of this character and actually make me want him now. XD Awesome.
I would be completely unopposed to a Rhythm Heaven rep. They're awesome games and they deserve to be represented in Smash in some way.
 
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Sorry to clog up this thread with short responses, but ugh. It links to Awakening on the European, American, and most versions of the site. Only the Japanese links to MotE.

Mystery of the Emblem is a Japan-only game that stars Marth. It is not available in other countries.
Then technically it would make more sense to link him to that in Japan wouldn't it? Like I said, that doesn't change that fact that he's associated with the Awakening game in other regions. Meaning a stage from Awakening doesn't necessarily mean an Awakening rep.
 

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Then technically it would make more sense to link him to that in Japan wouldn't it? Like I said, that doesn't change that fact that he's associated with the Awakening game in other regions. Meaning a stage from Awakening doesn't necessarily mean an Awakening rep.
Mm. I still don't follow. I think it's probably best if we change the subject back to actual rumours as they come, though. You nor I will budge, and I've been too fickle about arguing this point anyway. So sorry.
 

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New leak from /v/ (link so you can check it out before it 404's) :

No further information at the moment apart from simply names, but this is the full roster and stage list of the 3DS Version. All I have is names, unsure of specifics or series.

Fighters:

Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Chorus Men
Chrom
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Medusa
Mega Man
Meta Knight
Mewtwo
Mii
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Pac-Man
Palutena
Peach
Pikachu
Pikmin and Olimar
Pit
R.O.B.
Rosalina and Luma
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Snake
Sonic
Tabuu
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus


Stages:

3D Land
Airship Armada
Arena Ferox
Balloon Fight
Battlefield
Boxing Ring
Casino Night Zone
Donut Lifts
Dream Land
Engine Room
Final Destination
Find Mii
Foggy Fumes
Frontier Village
Gerudo Valley
Gourmet Race
Gyromite
Heart of Hades
Hyrule Castle Hall
Jungle Japes
Katina
Living Room
Maze
Mega Man Medley
Mila Tree
Mother Base
New Pork City
P2 Laboratory
Planet Zebes
Pictochat
Pilotwings
Princess Peach's Castle
Prism Tower
Pushmo Park
Rainbow Road
Red Canyon
Reset Bomb Forest
Rhythm Heaven
Saturn Valley
Scarescraper
Sector Z
Skyworld
Spirit Train
Subterranean Complex
Summit Village
Tetamus II
Tomodachi Slideshow
Tortimer Island
Virtual Zone
Vivosaur Island
WarioWare, Inc. Deluxe
Wii Fit Studio
Wrecked Ship


If there are really 53 characters with no K. Rool, Ridley, or Takamaru, I'm going to be pretty furious.
No retro, no deal. Probably fake.
 

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So, I think you just managed to erase any reservations I had about this inclusion of this character and actually make me want him now. XD Awesome.
Did you really become convinced from a credits video of him literally doing NOTHING BUT jumping up with a heart coming out at max height for several minutes?

...

The **** is wrong with some people here?
 

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No retro, no deal. Probably fake.
They lost me at "Tabuu". That would be like Sakurai saying "I don't care what you all say: SSE was great and you can DEAL WITH IT!"

That would also result in someone burning him in effigy on his lawn nightly...
 

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Did you really become convinced from a credits video of him literally doing NOTHING BUT jumping up with a heart coming out at max height for several minutes?

...

The **** is wrong with some people here?
Watch this one instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRjd3ic4pU

I'm still bitter about no Ouendan representation, though. Same number of games AND it predated Rhythm Heaven.
 

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Did you really become convinced from a credits video of him literally doing NOTHING BUT jumping up with a heart coming out at max height for several minutes?

...

The **** is wrong with some people here?
You might want to calm down with your hatred of other people's opinions here.
 

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Did you really become convinced from a credits video of him literally doing NOTHING BUT jumping up with a heart coming out at max height for several minutes?

...

The **** is wrong with some people here?
Well fine, if you're asking for the good stuff.
 

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So I hear that the same guy who made up that E3 leak made another leak before the direct, and apparently he got Greninja right. Sounds like a load of bull to me, he already didn't have much credibility before, even if he got the Wii Fit Trainer, he called Villager "Animal Crossing Guy," someone with inside information would have the exact name. And he didn't even get Greninja, he just said "X/Y Pokemon," that's so incredibly vague that it's astounding that people actually believe this. This guy is completely screwing with everyone and people are just falling right into it. Any other leak that gets a single bit of information wrong would be marked off as fake in an instant, yet this guy keeps going even though he's been wrong on multiple occasions simply because he had the Wii Fit Trainer. I know R.O.B. happened before guys, but lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice, or so the saying goes. Don't just blindly follow something until you have direct proof, so to speak.
You're just jealous that you can't become famous for being a reliable leaker!
 

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I think I'm actually more concerned with the credibility of the "48 characters" leak. Does anyone know the guy's name?
If that's the Mario Kart leaker he got actual information from Mario Kart wrong in that same leak, so the leak is basically dead.
 

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Watch this one instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRjd3ic4pU

I'm still bitter about no Ouendan representation, though. Same number of games AND it predated Rhythm Heaven.
Oh... dammit, don't remind me. At least we got trophies I guess. But that video didn't show me anything I didn't already know. I have the game. Beyond the music, its just a slight branch off the Wario Ware series. I just don't see Sakurai going this crazy. RH is truly niche, people want to argue Xenoblade, Golden Sun, retros, but this would just take the damn cake. This would be a WTF for the sake of WTF and I'm against that kind of crap. WFT, R.O.B and G&W are all important in some way.
 

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If that's the Mario Kart leaker he got actual information from Mario Kart wrong in that same leak, so the leak is basically dead.
While that is true, honestly, how many characters are people expecting? We already have 29 confirmed, with a good chunk of Brawl's roster unrevealed. I can't see us getting a huge number of newcomers. So while 48 is deconfirmed, i'd say it's probably close to what we are actually getting.
 

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While that is true, honestly, how many characters are people expecting? We already have 29 confirmed, with a good chunk of Brawl's roster unrevealed. I can't see us getting a huge number of newcomers. So while 48 is deconfirmed, i'd say it's probably close to what we are actually getting.
How ever many Sakurai puts in the game.
 

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Question. What was the complete list of trophies that Sakurai showcased before the direct? I remember Saria and that one from Kid Icarus, which happen to mirror the trophies shown in the direct. Maybe there's a connection that further supports the theory the trophies shown in the direct were meant to hint at newcomers?
 

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Question. What was the complete list of trophies that Sakurai showcased before the direct? I remember Saria and that one from Kid Icarus, which happen to mirror the trophies shown in the direct. Maybe there's a connection that further supports the theory the trophies shown in the direct were meant to hint at newcomers?
Saria from OoT3D, Little Mac from Captain Rainbow, and Phosphora from KI:U. No connection, near as I can figure. I think people are looking way too much into the character trophies shown in the Direct. The only one I see as a possible hint is Pseudo-Palutena. That just felt mean-spirited.
 

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While that is true, honestly, how many characters are people expecting? We already have 29 confirmed, with a good chunk of Brawl's roster unrevealed. I can't see us getting a huge number of newcomers. So while 48 is deconfirmed, i'd say it's probably close to what we are actually getting.
In Melee, the increase was 14 including Sheik. 14 newcomers.
In Brawl, the increase was 11 including Sheik and ZSS, and 13 including Squirtle and Ivysaur. 16 to 18 newcomers, 5 cuts.

An average increase of 13. An average newcomer count of 16.
 
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All this Pac-Man talk... it fills my heart with glee~!

On the subject of the Chorus Men, or Marshal, the idea of him being in the game makes me really excited. He/they are the perfect "WTF" character this time around, much like the Game & Watch of Melee. The Rhythm Heaven games are incredible and so much fun to play, and also incredibly popular in Japan, so it makes sense to me that they could add one or a group of them to the roster.

Man, I'm actually pretty optimistic about that idea now. Those games have a huge supply of weirdness and unique things they can use to create a move set.
 

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It's official: the game will be released August 55st, 2016. I have no idea what this is all about. Probably just a recording mistake that wasn't edited out.
I guess so. Maybe some people are over thinking.
 

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The 4 hints?
Did he say 4 hints to only newcomers or just characters
Because I think he would be referring to Ice Climbers, Captain Falcon, Palutena, and maybe Ridley?
I dunno if Ice Climbers would be the one since the Polar Bear didn't show up until the Press Kit. Chrom is a possibility with the Tiki trophy.
 

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The 4 hints?
Did he say 4 hints to only newcomers or just characters
Because I think he would be referring to Ice Climbers, Captain Falcon, Palutena, and maybe Ridley?
He said 4 hint's? I don't remember hearing about this.

Also, food for thought on the Gematsu leak. CAW evolution said
I received some additional verification that I'm not going to post, but that's the gist of it all. Sal's legit and his source is credible. It's only a matter of whether Nintendo decided at the last minute to change their E3 plans and hold off on Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Mii.
I don't know what that means, but CAW is a respected member who has been involved in the leaking of many other fighting games.
 

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If the trophies mean anything:

Metroid: Ridley
Zelda: Tingle
Fire Emblem: I dunno, Chrom probably. Not a huge fan of the series just yet.
Kid Icarus: Lady Palutena.

KTHNXBYEPLS.
 
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