SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Luigi#1]

Like I've said, you have no idea how he is getting his information or at what point in the game development (if he's a game tester) if he's playing it. You don't know how educated he is in pokemon, what language he speaks, etc. The possibilities are endless and I'll nitpick since you're starting to.

Fair enough to my last statement. But the rest was to Supernintendodisney. [Also thanks for not being as irrational as him.]

 

[TheTuninator]

Like I've said, you have no idea how he is getting his information or at what point in the game development (if he's a game tester) if he's playing it. You don't know how educated he is in pokemon, what language he speaks, etc. The possibilities are endless and I'll nitpick since you're starting to.

Let's examine the possibilities here.

Possibility #1 - He has played the game or seen gameplay. Even if he does not know Japanese, a cursory search of Pokemon reveals Greninja's identity, or he could provide visual cues (frog-like, scarf, etc) in his leak.

Possibility #2 - He has access to the roster list, but has not seen gameplay. If he has the roster list, he could easily provide the name of the character even if it's in Japanese, as he seems to have had no problem identifying every other character in the leak(s).

Possibility #3 - Somebody is feeding him the information, which he then feeds to Sal. This possibility's the only one which actually allows for the leaker to know that an X&Y pokemon is in but not its specific identity, as his source could have decided to withhold that specific information for some reason.

Not knowing Japanese wouldn't stop him from providing more information, and since he knows the names of every other character, or nearly so, I'm not really willing to consider a lack of linguistic knowledge as a valid explanation.

 

[Shroob]

Let's examine the possibilities here.

Possibility #1 - He has played the game or seen gameplay. Even if he does not know Japanese, a cursory search of Pokemon reveals Greninja's identity, or he could provide visual cues (frog-like, scarf, etc) in his leak.

Possibility #2 - He has access to the roster list, but has not seen gameplay. If he has the roster list, he could easily provide the name of the character even if it's in Japanese, as he seems to have had no problem identifying every other character in the leak(s).

Possibility #3 - Somebody is feeding him the information, which he then feeds to Sal. This possibility's the only one which actually allows for the leaker to know that an X&Y pokemon is in but not its specific identity, as his source could have decided to withhold that specific information for some reason.

Not knowing Japanese wouldn't stop him from providing more information, and since he knows the names of every other character, or nearly so, I'm not really willing to consider a lack of linguistic knowledge as a valid explanation.

Well, to put it as others have said, he called Villager "Animal Crossing Kid" and the Choir Kid has a name, Marshal.

 

[polonight]

What I don't understand is how he didn't know the Pokemon names but managed to tell us who the rhythm heaven character is, I know it's popular in Japan but then again in Japan Pokemon is a house hold name. Even if he had to look them up there isn't much to go on (black and white man with bow tie) compared to Pokemon (Frog with tongue scarf) I believe the first part of the leak but I cannot see the point of being so vague with an easily identifiable Pokemon (it would take literally 1 minute to look him up) and without being that big a gamer know what the dudes are called in Rhythm Heaven (which I'd assume he may have not heard about seeing as he didn't know a lot about more mainstream titles like X &Y)

However this may be because greninja was originally going to be part of the Pokemon Trainer 2 but had to be edited due to transformations not working on the 3DS (It would also explain why the fennekin model looks so much better then the other new Pokemon models like Chespin whom I assume replaced quadilladin since he would be more recognisable)

Anyway we are getting nowhere over this leak anyway for me it could go either way and I don't think we could disprove it until the game comes out (if we go with the assumption he missed a few out due to secret characters)

More importantly the tweet about the direct should be looked into and also we should probably start looking for more leaks since we are getting towards the time the real roster will be leaked.

 

[TheUnsullied]

meh everyone knew the game will be shown off. lol.
though I agree ONLY on the WFT part.....still.....I WANT the leaker to be wrong a few times......

Yeah, I want him to be wrong about the playable Mii.
But even though I despise the idea of a playable mii character, if this leak turns out to be true then I will have no quarrels with the roster. It can't get any better than what is being put out...
(well maybe except a playable Ridley and the return of Mewtwo and Snake)

 

[Luigi#1]

What are you even talking about

No, the Pokemon argument is solid, you play AS MARIO, AS LINK in their games. For POKEMON, you play AS THE TRAINER

AND HOW THE HECK WOULD A TEN YEAR OLD WORK TO PLAY AS? AND YOU COMMAND WHAT THE POKEMON DO AS WELL! THE VILLAGER HAS POTENTIAL MOVESET, WHAT"S THE TRAINER GOING TO DO, CATCH THE OPPONENT WITH A POKEBALL? No way in hell is the Pokemon argument solid. Also what about the other points, hmmm?

Yeah, I want him to be wrong about the playable Mii.
But even though I despise the idea of a playable mii character, if this leak turns out to be true then I will have no quarrels with the roster. It can't get any better than what is being put out...
(well maybe except a playable Ridley and the return of Mewtwo and Snake)

How does this relate to my post?

 

[Deleted member]

Did he use the term "men"…? I mean, yes, but I thought the leak said something like "one of the chorus men". That, or it didn't specify. I'm still leaning a little more towards Marshal, seeing as he's the mascot of the most recent game. But you certainly raise an interesting possibility.

Looking back at the Gematsu page, yes, he said "Chorus Men" rather than "one of the Chorus Men". "Pokémon from X/Y" was the only vague one.

 

[TheAnvil]

Did you forget the ElecPlankton stage in Brawl?

I meant stages that could have viable playable characters.

First off, if you believe that Chrom and Shulk would play similarly at all, you've clearly never played either game. Second of all, they introduced three sword-users in both Melee and Brawl. Weapon has nothing to do with it, especially considering one is literally a laser sword.

Also, Balloon Fighter is unlikely, given Villager's recovery. What else could the Balloon Fighter do?

I didn't say that they'd play alike. But they're both characters that fill a very similar role and neither are from core Nintendo franchises, I highly doubt that both will be added considering we're probably only getting 10-12 newcomers. I could see Shulk happening as there's no Xenoblade rep, we already have 2 FE reps so Chrom is the far less likely one out of the two.

I don't see why Villager's recovery would really effect Balloon Fighter all that much. If we can have 5 sword users on Brawl, we can't have 2 characters with a similar Balloon-Themed recovery? There's actually quite a bit they could do with a character that uses Balloons as a tool too, and like I've said he has been considered in the past.

 

[Shroob]

I meant stages that could have viable playable characters.



I didn't say that they'd play alike. But they're both characters that fill a very similar role and neither are from core Nintendo franchises, I highly doubt that both will be added considering we're probably only getting 10-12 newcomers. I could see Shulk happening as there's no Xenoblade rep, we already have 2 FE reps so Chrom is the far less likely one out of the two.

I don't see why Villager's recovery would really effect Balloon Fighter all that much. If we can have 5 sword users on Brawl, we can't have 2 characters with a similar Balloon-Themed recovery? There's actually quite a bit they could do with a character that uses Balloons as a tool too, and like I've said he has been considered in the past.

I'd argue that Chrom is VERY likely. Arena Ferox and the Tiki Trophy cement Chrom for me.

 

[CroonerMike]

Another juvenile response. Its at least feasible to support the ONLY leak that has a sliver of credibility, while other cling to every single other obvious phony leak in hopes of their character making the cut

Never said I agree with any of the leaks, honestly I got my characters I wanted for the most part, but I won't complain if I don't get everyone or even if this leak is true. Again, I did not want to be rude to you but you seem to be rude to everyone else, which is juvenile. What you need to do is respond calm and collected instead of telling people they are wrong and you are right because at this point no one knows who is right or wrong! I never said you were wrong either, I am just saying you need to look at all sides and respect the opinions of others. If we could do that, this could be a better place. It's not just you either, it is everyone on the forums...or internet for that matter. My apologies for attacking you if you felt that way.

 

[Whit]

Probably not worth anything, but Tomodachi Collection is coming stateside it seems.

That's worth saying considering the mii's possible inclusion. Btw does anybody know where the crown symbol came from when the Find Mii stage was shown?

 

[MrPanic]

I was wondering, did he leak the first batch of characters near the Nintendo direct that revealed 3 of them? If so, that's something that could make him less creditable.

 

[Shroob]

AND HOW THE HECK WOULD A TEN YEAR OLD WORK TO PLAY AS? AND YOU COMMAND WHAT THE POKEMON DO AS WELL! THE VILLAGER HAS POTENTIAL MOVESET, WHAT"S THE TRAINER GOING TO DO, CATCH THE OPPONENT WITH A POKEBALL? No way in hell is the Pokemon argument solid. Also what about the other points, hmmm?

How does this relate to my post?

Arguing that a character has no moveset potential is weak. The Trainer could have a moveset and I'm fairly certain people have probably taken the time to create one.

 

[TheAnvil]

I'd argue that Chrom is VERY likely. Arena Ferox and the Tiki Trophy cement Chrom for me.

I don't see why a stage from a certain game in a series would confirm that character. That stage could easily belong to Ike or Marth, seeing as how they're technically in Awakening too.

 

[Shroob]

I don't see why a stage from a certain game in a series would confirm that character. That stage could easily belong to Ike or Marth, seeing as how they're technically in Awakening too.

Ike and Marth are DLC, not part of the actual game. Arena Ferox is where one of the most important parts of the game takes place which features Chrom.

 

[ZombieVito]

Someone ask the leaker if Mewtwo is in. T_T

 

[Luigi#1]

Arguing that a character has no moveset potential is weak. The Trainer could have a moveset and I'm fairly certain people have probably taken the time to create one.

Yeah, but the entire game is about the Pokemon. Saying a Trainer would get in before a Pokemon is ridiculous.

 

[Hoots]

New leak from /v/ (link so you can check it out before it 404's) :

No further information at the moment apart from simply names, but this is the full roster and stage list of the 3DS Version. All I have is names, unsure of specifics or series.

Fighters:

Spoiler

Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Chorus Men
Chrom
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Medusa
Mega Man
Meta Knight
Mewtwo
Mii
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Pac-Man
Palutena
Peach
Pikachu
Pikmin and Olimar
Pit
R.O.B.
Rosalina and Luma
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Snake
Sonic
Tabuu
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus

Stages:

Spoiler

3D Land
Airship Armada
Arena Ferox
Balloon Fight
Battlefield
Boxing Ring
Casino Night Zone
Donut Lifts
Dream Land
Engine Room
Final Destination
Find Mii
Foggy Fumes
Frontier Village
Gerudo Valley
Gourmet Race
Gyromite
Heart of Hades
Hyrule Castle Hall
Jungle Japes
Katina
Living Room
Maze
Mega Man Medley
Mila Tree
Mother Base
New Pork City
P2 Laboratory
Planet Zebes
Pictochat
Pilotwings
Princess Peach's Castle
Prism Tower
Pushmo Park
Rainbow Road
Red Canyon
Reset Bomb Forest
Rhythm Heaven
Saturn Valley
Scarescraper
Sector Z
Skyworld
Spirit Train
Subterranean Complex
Summit Village
Tetamus II
Tomodachi Slideshow
Tortimer Island
Virtual Zone
Vivosaur Island
WarioWare, Inc. Deluxe
Wii Fit Studio
Wrecked Ship

If there are really 53 characters with no K. Rool, Ridley, or Takamaru, I'm going to be pretty furious.

 

[Extrain]

Fair enough to my last statement. But the rest was to Supernintendodisney. [Also thanks for not being as irrational as him.]

I don't like how he's responding either, he's being pretty rude.
Sal's leak is extremely skeptical, and we all have a right to be, but I don't like people saying he's wrong simply because the tipper was vague. I believe we should be extremely skeptical given that a lot of the newcomers on that are shoe-ins, but who knows what Sakurai has planned for us. The guy missed Rosalina and he might be missing more. It's a shame that this leak doesn't state if these are all of the newcomers or not because we won't know until summer.

Let's examine the possibilities here.

Possibility #1 - He has played the game or seen gameplay. Even if he does not know Japanese, a cursory search of Pokemon reveals Greninja's identity, or he could provide visual cues (frog-like, scarf, etc) in his leak.

Possibility #2 - He has access to the roster list, but has not seen gameplay. If he has the roster list, he could easily provide the name of the character even if it's in Japanese, as he seems to have had no problem identifying every other character in the leak(s).

Possibility #3 - Somebody is feeding him the information, which he then feeds to Sal. This possibility's the only one which actually allows for the leaker to know that an X&Y pokemon is in but not its specific identity, as his source could have decided to withhold that specific information for some reason.

Not knowing Japanese wouldn't stop him from providing more information, and since he knows the names of every other character, or nearly so, I'm not really willing to consider a lack of linguistic knowledge as a valid explanation.

A while ago in this thread, someone made a good point that maybe he was being intentionally vague because he didn't want Nintendo on his tail. Obviously this is probably a reach, but so are many other things people have pointed out. At first, I would've liked to think that only some of the newcomers on his list are real, with the rest being fake so that he wont be possibly put under heat. But he's still said that Mii and Pac-Man are "on their way", as if he knew that they wouldn't be in the direct, but that one of the other newcomers would. The point I was making with language, is that if the tipper is getting these from someone who's for example, Japanese, maybe some thing would get lost in translation if it's not his first language, and all he understood was that it's an XY pokemon. That's a bigger reach than I should have done, but what I'm saying is that the possibilities are endless. Mainly, I agree with possibility #3.


Another thing is that we don't know what the emails Gematsu is getting consist of other than the newcomers. All we know is that the email says that those characters will appear as newcomers, and that he doesn't answer many questions. It doesn't seem like someone who's attention seeking.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

New leak from /v/ (link so you can check it out before it 404's) :

No further information at the moment apart from simply names, but this is the full roster and stage list of the 3DS Version. All I have is names, unsure of specifics or series.

Fighters:

Spoiler

Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Chorus Men
Chrom
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Medusa
Mega Man
Meta Knight
Mewtwo
Mii
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Pac-Man
Palutena
Peach
Pikachu
Pikmin and Olimar
Pit
R.O.B.
Rosalina and Luma
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Snake
Sonic
Tabuu
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus

Stages:

Spoiler

3D Land
Airship Armada
Arena Ferox
Balloon Fight
Battlefield
Boxing Ring
Casino Night Zone
Donut Lifts
Dream Land
Engine Room
Final Destination
Find Mii
Foggy Fumes
Frontier Village
Gerudo Valley
Gourmet Race
Gyromite
Heart of Hades
Hyrule Castle Hall
Jungle Japes
Katina
Living Room
Maze
Mega Man Medley
Mila Tree
Mother Base
New Pork City
P2 Laboratory
Planet Zebes
Pictochat
Pilotwings
Princess Peach's Castle
Prism Tower
Pushmo Park
Rainbow Road
Red Canyon
Reset Bomb Forest
Rhythm Heaven
Saturn Valley
Scarescraper
Sector Z
Skyworld
Spirit Train
Subterranean Complex
Summit Village
Tetamus II
Tomodachi Slideshow
Tortimer Island
Virtual Zone
Vivosaur Island
WarioWare, Inc. Deluxe
Wii Fit Studio
Wrecked Ship

If there are really 53 characters with no K. Rool, Ridley, or Takamaru, I'm going to be pretty furious.

Tabuu kills it.

 

[TheUnsullied]

Nope.. Just Nope. lol

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Didn't the direct kill Mii's? Is Sal's leak dead?

 

[polonight]

Stages:

Spoiler

3D Land
Airship Armada
Arena Ferox
Balloon Fight
Battlefield
Boxing Ring
Casino Night Zone
Donut Lifts
Dream Land
Engine Room
Final Destination
Find Mii
Foggy Fumes
Frontier Village
Gerudo Valley
Gourmet Race
Gyromite
Heart of Hades
Hyrule Castle Hall
Jungle Japes
Katina
Living Room
Maze
Mega Man Medley
Mila Tree
Mother Base
New Pork City
P2 Laboratory
Planet Zebes
Pictochat
Pilotwings
Princess Peach's Castle
Prism Tower
Pushmo Park
Rainbow Road
Red Canyon
Reset Bomb Forest
Rhythm Heaven
Saturn Valley
Scarescraper
Sector Z
Skyworld
Spirit Train
Subterranean Complex
Summit Village
Tetamus II
Tomodachi Slideshow
Tortimer Island
Virtual Zone
Vivosaur Island
WarioWare, Inc. Deluxe
Wii Fit Studio
Wrecked Ship

Umm... No Dr Wiley's Castle
FAKE

OVER AND OUT

EDIT: Dr Wiley's Castle is official stage name and it cannot be Megaman Medley since it is only IN Wiley's castle (I believe name is mentioned in Nintendo direct.)

 

[Extrain]

Of course it has the characters in the Gematsu leak. Still, I think we should be paying just a little more attention to some leaks as release time is getting closer and closer. If the game is getting a worldwide release, then definitely so. I hope the good leaks start coming that actually agree with each other.

Didn't the direct kill Mii's? Is Sal's leak dead?

Yes, technically it's dead. The character's hes said have so far been right though, with greninja being vaguely referred to as "Pokemon from XY". It's completely up to any individual to believe Sals leak or not. Sal's leaker has also said that Pac-Man and Mii are still coming.
Edit: Oh, you meant the direct. No, not at all in regards to that.

 

[Duster72]

I didn't say that they'd play alike. But they're both characters that fill a very similar role and neither are from core Nintendo franchises, I highly doubt that both will be added considering we're probably only getting 10-12 newcomers. I could see Shulk happening as there's no Xenoblade rep, we already have 2 FE reps so Chrom is the far less likely one out of the two.

Fair enough. But I still highly doubt they'd have similar roles. Shulk is more passive and focuses on evasion, while Chrom is an all-out attacker with little defense. That's just how they play in their own games though. Also, the game that Chrom is from sold the most an FE game has ever sold before to date. Plus, there's currently only one FE character right now. Ike is not confirmed to return.

I don't see why Villager's recovery would really effect Balloon Fighter all that much. If we can have 5 sword users on Brawl, we can't have 2 characters with a similar Balloon-Themed recovery? There's actually quite a bit they could do with a character that uses Balloons as a tool too, and like I've said he has been considered in the past.

Well… I suppose not. But Villager's recovery is a direct reference to Balloon Fight, and I don't see why they would give him a move like that if he was sharing it with another character that's from the game he's referencing. Even that sentence already reeks of circular logic in order to justify that move. I mean, they could have easily given Village another recovery, like hanging onto a floating present or Gulliver's UFO from Animal Crossing.

 

[Deleted member]

Edit: Something that he gets wrong here is that he calls them the Chorus Men because of the Salromano leak, when in reality they would be called "Chorus Kids" like they're called in Rhythm Heaven. I assumed the "Men" part of the Salromano leak is the standard sloppiness of this leaker along with "animal crossing guy" and "Pokemon from X/Y."

Chorus Men is their Japanese name.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Didn't the direct kill Mii's? Is Sal's leak dead?

Remember R.O.B.?

 

[TheAnvil]

Ike and Marth are DLC, not part of the actual game. Arena Ferox is where one of the most important parts of the game takes place which features Chrom.

... So? That's like saying that The Professor should have been playable in Melee because of the Great Bay stage.

 

[Miffa]

Didn't the direct kill Mii's? Is Sal's leak dead?

Miis ain't exactly deconfiimed since we have seen pics with an empty cage.

 

[Shroob]

... So? That's like saying that The Professor should have been playable in Melee because of the Great Bay stage.

You're seriously comparing a side character that helps the protagonist... to the protagonist? Marth and Ike's role in Awakening is non-canon. That'd be like making a Sonic stage based off of the Zelda DLC or a Megaman stage based off the American Box-Art.

 

[Wolfie557]

Didn't the direct kill Mii's? Is Sal's leak dead?

No.
we don't know all there is to customizations.
we have no idea what the cross platform stuff are.

they are still as likely as ever. especially with their 3 stages.....with one stage dedicated to the tomadochi life which is coming to west and Nintendo had a direct about it today.

 

[Spazzy_D]

New leak from /v/ (link so you can check it out before it 404's) :

No further information at the moment apart from simply names, but this is the full roster and stage list of the 3DS Version. All I have is names, unsure of specifics or series.

Fighters:

Spoiler

Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Chorus Men
Chrom
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Medusa
Mega Man
Meta Knight
Mewtwo
Mii
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Pac-Man
Palutena
Peach
Pikachu
Pikmin and Olimar
Pit
R.O.B.
Rosalina and Luma
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Snake
Sonic
Tabuu
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus

Stages:

Spoiler

3D Land
Airship Armada
Arena Ferox
Balloon Fight
Battlefield
Boxing Ring
Casino Night Zone
Donut Lifts
Dream Land
Engine Room
Final Destination
Find Mii
Foggy Fumes
Frontier Village
Gerudo Valley
Gourmet Race
Gyromite
Heart of Hades
Hyrule Castle Hall
Jungle Japes
Katina
Living Room
Maze
Mega Man Medley
Mila Tree
Mother Base
New Pork City
P2 Laboratory
Planet Zebes
Pictochat
Pilotwings
Princess Peach's Castle
Prism Tower
Pushmo Park
Rainbow Road
Red Canyon
Reset Bomb Forest
Rhythm Heaven
Saturn Valley
Scarescraper
Sector Z
Skyworld
Spirit Train
Subterranean Complex
Summit Village
Tetamus II
Tomodachi Slideshow
Tortimer Island
Virtual Zone
Vivosaur Island
WarioWare, Inc. Deluxe
Wii Fit Studio
Wrecked Ship

If there are really 53 characters with no K. Rool, Ridley, or Takamaru, I'm going to be pretty furious.

Edit: Something that he gets wrong here is that he calls them the Chorus Men because of the Salromano leak, when in reality they would be called "Chorus Kids" like they're called in Rhythm Heaven. I assumed the "Men" part of the Salromano leak is the standard sloppiness of this leaker along with "animal crossing guy" and "Pokemon from X/Y."

Huh, no retro rep and no new DK rep with THAT many characters? Doubt it. Seriously, I like Kid Icarus A LOT more then DKC, but Medusa before Dixie or K. Rool?

@Cap'nChreest nothing even slightly deconfirmed Miis, find Mii has a crown for an Icon but that could be a regular Mii Icon or they just felt that Find Mii deserved it's own icon. A Mii was seen in the find Mii, but since Mii's never travel alone that doesn't' mean much at all.

 

[Scourge The Hedgehog]

Medusa and Tabuu are the ones I'm having trouble with right now. Ike and Bowser Jr too. Not saying I dislike the concept of Bowser Jr since he'd be another rep for the Mario team. Ike might have a chance if they are trying to increase the reps of FE but he's more along the lines of being cut. Tabuu though? That overly powerful fool? No thanks. Scrap it. Scrap it now.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Remember R.O.B.?

I don't see what rob has to do with this.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

@Cap'nChreest nothing even slightly deconfirmed Miis, find Mii has a crown for an Icon but that could be a regular Mii Icon or they just felt that Find Mii deserved it's own icon. A Mii was seen in the find Mii, but since Mii's never travel alone that doesn't' mean much at all.

It could be referring to a "favorited" Mii. The symbol for that was a crown, right? And they got red pants.

 

[polonight]

You're seriously comparing a side character that helps the protagonist... to the protagonist? Marth and Ike's role in Awakening is non-canon. That'd be like making a Sonic stage based off of the Zelda DLC or a Megaman stage based off the American Box-Art.

To be fair smashville in brawl didn't mean a character though it suggests someone from awakening is coming it doesn't prove it

 

[TheUnsullied]

Didn't the direct kill Mii's? Is Sal's leak dead?

how so?

 

[Shroob]

To be fair smashville in brawl didn't mean a character though it suggests someone from awakening is coming it doesn't prove it

Animal Crossing didn't have any rep at all in Brawl, unlike Fire Emblem.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

how so?

I thought that the Mii's being in cages as background characters disconfirmed them. He also seems to be using them as avatars for a profile more so than actual characters. I could be wrong though. On a superficial level it seems like they won't be characters.

 

[Luigi#1]

It could be referring to a "favorited" Mii. The symbol for that was a crown, right? And they got red pants.

The crown was completely different from the favorite's symbol. It's more like the King's crown.
It does seem odd that it doesn't get a Mii symbol.