SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[BluePikmin11]

Does staff at Nintendo even know what the hell a Tin Star is?

Well technically Sakurai could've researched from here, since this was an item in Smash:

 

[Substitution]

Ice Climbers really weren't.

In a way, they were.

Well, more than Tin Star, at least...

 

[domriver]

LOL who is Tin Star? xD

 

[andalsoandy]

In a way, they were.

Well, more than Tin Star, at least...

Good point.

Tin Star's character alone just screams "BAD IDEA."

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well technically Sakurai could've researched from here, since this was an item in Smash:

Don't know why the hell Tin Star of all things would influence the inclusion of the Super Scope. I would understand Yoshi's Safari, Battle Clash, or Super Scope 9, but Tin Star is random as ****.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Good point.

Tin Star's character alone just screams "BAD IDEA."

To be fair, they could redesign him.
But I find the Tin Star leak fake regardless.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Ice Climbers really weren't.

Yeah... aside from being one of their first arcade games and a launch title for the NES, Ice Climber it really wasn't that important (not to mention it's aged about as well as Lindsey Lohan and maybe a B- of a game at best). Definitely the most obscure characters added to Smash Bros so far. The point still stands that Tin Star goes well beyond that in terms of obscurity. It's not important, it didn't sell well, there's virtually no demand for a revival, it was a region exclusive, etc. As I said before, Sheriff would make a lot more sense but even that game would be stretching it to barely believable lengths.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Expanded upon on site:

-Pokemon stage from X/Y on 3ds version. Seems like a cafe.
-Donkey Kong stage called Gangplank Galleon (?)
-Tin Star stage involving a moving carriage.
-Super Mario 3D World stage with Plessie as a stage hazard.

Pokemon/DK stages were stated in previous leaks recently that sound just like the ones mentioned here.

Tin Star moving carriage stage I'd wager is based upon the first level of the Tin Star game.

But more importantly, as was mentioned before, this is NOT the first time we've heard of a 3DS Pokemon Cafe stage... that guy from earlier who was saying that his friend accidentally got a bunch of Smash info he wasn't supposed to get (didn't elaborate on how exactly that happened for the safety of his friend's employment) ALSO mentioned a cafe on 3DS based on Pokemon X and Y.

 

[Zhadgon]

Eh, even if it could be categorized the same way as the Wonderful 101 and Sin and Punishment, it's still a super obscure game to pull a character from, especially with it being an NA exclusive. It'd be like Oogtar from the Super Mario World cartoon making an appearance (and being playable, no less).

I never say that it has a chance, only that is owned by Nintendo .
.n_n.

 

[Substitution]

Yeah... aside from being one of their first arcade games and a launch title for the NES, Ice Climber it really wasn't that important (not to mention it's aged about as well as Lindsey Lohan and maybe a B- of a game at best). Definitely the most obscure characters added to Smash Bros so far. The point still stands that Tin Star goes well beyond that in terms of obscurity. It's not important, it didn't sell well, there's virtually no demand for a revival, it was a region exclusive, etc. As I said before, Sheriff would make a lot more sense but even that game would be stretching it to barely believable lengths.

Honestly.
I still think Mr. G&W still hold the "obscure" title.

I mean, let's face it, how many knew what a Game and Watch was beforehand?

 

[Z25]

Honestly.
I still think Mr. G&W still hold the "obscure" title.

I mean, let's face it, how many knew what a Game and Watch was beforehand?

I knew the game but had no clue you didn't play as someone actually named mr. game and watch.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Fire emblem was japan exclusive, and Lucas's game is still japan exclusive (Wasn't rob a toy made to bring the nes to american markets?). It's not like obscurity or exclusivity matters much at all when deciding characters, It's what the character can bring to the game.

But Fire Emblem had 5 games in Japan before Marth and Roy were in Melee and was decently successful while Mother had 3 games with Earthbound (Mother 2) being released internationally. Both Fire Emblem and Mother were decently established franchises in Japan so it's not really comparable.

 

[RelaxAlax]

Hey, I'm betting Sakurai will pull something out of his random hat. Whatever the guy wants, goes, it seems.

I'm still hoping for Duck Hunt Dog but that's a pipe dream. No bundle pun intended.

 

[Substitution]

I knew the game but had no clue you didn't play as someone actually named mr. game and watch.

Well, technically.
There is no actual "Mr. Game and Watch". He's just a bunch of Game and Watch games put into one.

 

[Shroob]

Fire emblem was japan exclusive, and Lucas's game is still japan exclusive (Wasn't rob a toy made to bring the nes to american markets?). It's not like obscurity or exclusivity matters much at all when deciding characters, It's what the character can bring to the game.

R.O.B. was released in Japan as well. That's why when you play with Brawl on JP Language he has a white and red color scheme and is called Robot.

 

[Muster]

But Fire Emblem had 5 games in Japan before Marth and Roy were in Melee and was decently successful while Mother had 3 games with Earthbound (Mother 2) being released internationally. Both Fire Emblem and Mother were decently established franchises in Japan so it's not really comparable.

Being successful isn't really a factor, either. Characters have made it into smash while being exclusive to a certain country and characters have made it into smash despite only having one game. The only difference with Tin Star is that these are both contributing factors to his "obscurity".

R.O.B. was released in Japan as well. That's why when you play with Brawl on JP Language he has a white and red color scheme and is called Robot.

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

 

[Protom]

This tin star thing seems more obscure than WFT.
People at least somewhat knew that she existed. Tin star though...

 

[Substitution]

This tin star thing seems more obscure than WFT.
People at least somewhat knew that she existed. Tin star though...

I'll put it this way.

I'm the kind of guy that listens to C64 music. And pride myself in pointless game trivia.
And somehow even I didn't know about this guy.

 

[BluePikmin11]

This tin star thing seems more obscure than WFT.
People at least somewhat knew that she existed. Tin star though...

Check NinDB, they'll tell you all about Nintendo's saltiest corners.

 

[IsmaR]

You're right. The leak claims Dixie to be revealed on Tropical Freeze. @ IsmaR I think you need to strike that point as red and move it to the Dead Post.

Gotcha.

I need to redo the whole OP, go over the new ones and determine which are worth adding/declaring fake or not, and more. Shouldn't take me long.

 

[Z25]

Well, technically.
There is no actual "Mr. Game and Watch". He's just a bunch of Game and Watch games put into one.

I know, i thought that mr. game watch was the main character rather then he was just made up as a combination of all the people in the game.

 

[Aurora Jenny]

Well shoot, double post! Honestly, that guy that had the 17 newcomer list along with the stages sounds like a reasonable list that I don't have any objections too.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I'll put it this way.

I'm the kind of guy that listens to C64 music. And pride myself in pointless game trivia.
And somehow even I didn't know about this guy.

To put this into prospective, Tin Star is so obscure that it was never even mentioned in the Chronicle, the same Chronicle that made references to products like Waialae Country Club: True Golf Classics, Vertical Force, Solar Striker, and even bloody Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak.

 

[Substitution]

To put this into prospective, Tin Star is so obscure that it was never even mentioned in the Chronicle, the same Chronicle that made references to products like Waialae Country Club: True Golf Classics, Vertical Force, Solar Striker, and even bloody Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak.

I mean, it's really weird for me.
If anything, I would've known about this game. But I haven't.

Though, the game does give me an Earthworm Jim vibe.
Maybe it's from the same people?

 

[Protom]

Maybe thats why it wasnt mentioned.
So that 0% of theworld expects it.
Sakurai planning in advance

 

[Substitution]

Maybe thats why it wasnt mentioned.
So that 0% of theworld expects it.
Sakurai planning in advance

I don't know.
All of us knew what Wii Fit was. And we still didn't expect it.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, it was an America exclusive game that Nintendo only published.


We'd see DBZ's Broly before we saw Tin Star in Smash.

 

[andalsoandy]

Gotcha.

I need to redo the whole OP, go over the new ones and determine which are worth adding/declaring fake or not, and more. Shouldn't take me long.

I think you just need GreenReaperGod's (most recent) dead/alive leaks archive thing in the OP.

 

[Protom]

Well, it was an America exclusive game that Nintendo only published.


We'd see DBZ's Broly before we saw Tin Star in Smash.

Nah. Still more likely than miiverses favorites Goku, Shadow and Power Puff Girls.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I mean, it's really weird for me.
If anything, I would've known about this game. But I haven't.

Though, the game does give me an Earthworm Jim vibe.
Maybe it's from the same people?

It's not from the people that made Earthworm Jim, it was made by the people behind Plok.

 

[DangerDamage]

Can you add a "reasonable" category, @ IsmaR ? Because the E3 Leak does have some reasonable reasons as to why it could be real or fake, as well as other famous leakers (CAW Evolution) backing it up.

Yeah, all I can really say, and no, let's not have an argument discussing it being real or not since atm its an opinion.

 

[Substitution]

It's not from the people that made Earthworm Jim, it was made by the crew behind Plok.

Plok? Oh! That game...

...I swear if the music wasn't made by Geoff Follin I'll be disappointed.

 

[Deleted member]

Nah. Still more likely than miiverses favorites Goku, Shadow and Power Puff Girls.

Other than the PPG, incorrect.

 

[andalsoandy]

It's not from the people that made Earthworm Jim, it was made by the people behind Plok.

Makes sense.

Neither were that good.

 

[Louie G.]

Does staff at Nintendo even know what the hell a Tin Star is?

They don't even know who Kiddy Kong is, let alone Tin Star.
Literally, when asked about the 4th Kong in Tropical Freeze, the staff had no idea who they were talking about when the interviewer mentioned Kiddy.

 

[Substitution]

Other than the PPG, incorrect.

Actually...

Makes sense.

Neither were that good.

I like Earthworm Jim!

Plok didn't have bad music either...

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

It's not from the people that made Earthworm Jim, it was made by the people behind Plok.

I love Plok. I met the guys who made it once, they live in the same town as my parents.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I'd definitely see Lloyd Irving in Smash before we'd even get any hints of Tin Star.

Odd leak is odd.

 

[BKupa666]

For those familiar with Pokemon X/Y, how easy-to-guess would you consider a Pokemon Cafe stage to be? Is it like a Bowser's Castle or a Gangplank Galleon in that it's a pretty obvious choice, or is it more obscure?

 

[Shroob]

For those familiar with Pokemon X/Y, how easy-to-guess would you consider a Pokemon Cafe stage to be? Is it like a Bowser's Castle or a Gangplank Galleon in that it's a pretty obvious choice, or is it more obscure?

In Luminose City in XY, the entire city's shtick is 'Style'. The more things you do in the city gets you 'style points', like visiting a cafe, riding a taxi or going to the museum. The city is full of Cafes, but honestly they're completely pointless outside of getting 'style'. Really, the ONLY major things related to cafes are:

You meet the Kalos champion for the first time in one.

and

One is secretly a base for Team Flare.... though they don't hide it at all...


That's it. Honestly, I've never found a point to 'style' except getting a discount on the mega stones and being able to enter the sushi restaurant/clothing store.