SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[gameb0ybryan]

Leak list, for anyone who wishes to view past leaks.
Click spoiler.

EDIT: I can haz cookie nao?

Posting this if any of you need to reference it

Spoiler

Dead:

Journalist Leak - Comprised of a "final roster" without Rosalina or Toon Link.
Reddit Leak - Claims that Rosalina is an Assist Trophy.
ThatWasPeachy False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Wegenbarth False Leak - See above.
APC99 False Leak - See above.
Occopicus Leak - Fortanono fake.
60 Character Roster Leak - Someone in this thread (don't remember) confessed to making it.
splat False Leak - Self-explanatory.
MisterVideoGaming False Leak - See above.
Competitive Arsehole Friend Leak - Clever analysis by Groose indicates that numbers-based poster username spells out "'Tis Fake!"
Early February 2013 Crap Leak - Claims that "Mega Man is off the table."
Smashboardian Leak That I Think Fortanono Made Leak - I was correct.
legendofrob1 False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Illiterate Leak (#2) - Said that Captain Falcon would be revealed on January 21st.
Toots Leak - Leaker admitted it was fake
Mr. Prediction Leak - Said that Shulk would be revealed on January 30th.
Hanafuda Leak (#1) - Said Lucario was cut.
Basty Leak - Also said that Lucario was cut.
Sandbag Leak - Said that Sandbag would be revealed on January 31st.
Really Short Leak - Lucario was revealed before Captain Falcon.
Frostwraith Leak - Self-explanatory.
Sakura Leak - Says that "Smash 5" is already in development by a different studio, when Sakurai has stated that SSBU and SSB3DS are Smash 4 and 5.
Sesquin Leak - Stated that Spear Pillar would return, but Palkia (major stage element of Spear Pillar) has been confirmed as a pokeball Pokemon.
Gandalf69me Leak - Admitted Fake
"Somebody is Coming" Leak - See above
Cap'nChreest Leak - See above
Souta Satou Leak - Yoshi Kato's email was soutasatou@____.com (they had different claims)
Yoshi Kato Leak - See above
Sound Guy Leak - Said Diddy would be next revealed (Little Mac was revealed before)
Veteran Leak - See above
Glass Joe Leak - Said that Diddy would be revealed on February 13th.
IGN Leak (#1) - See above
Year of Yoshi Leak - Said Yoshi and Baby Mario would be revealed during the direct on February 13th
Future Leaker Leak - Admitted fake
Diddy Kong Website Leak - Diddy Kong's background color is red, not blue
Illiterate Leak (#3) - Said that a "frozen DK Isle" stage would be revealed on DKTF's US release date
Ceres Leak - Had the same IP as another Smashboards user
Suomynona Leak - See above
New Nintendo Direct Stuff Leak - Said Mii would be revealed in the next direct.
CrimsonDivine Leak - The source admitted to have made it up
Over-Representation Leak (#1) - Said Waluigi was playable
GaeozHero Leak - Said "Ms. Tetris" would be revealed in February

Live:

Jumpman Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
• Inclusion of Snake
• Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
• Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
• Exclusion of Cannon Box item

Betternet Roster Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Inclusion of Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake, Pokemon Trainer with Brawl Pokemon
• Inclusion of newcomer who is not Dixie, Toon Zelda, Palutena, Krystal, Chrom & Lucina, Mii, Little Mac, Takamaru, or Pacman
• Exclusion of any non-listed Brawl veteran or Mewtwo
• Mewtwo using a Mega Form, not using "Psycho Break" Final Smash
• Zelda/Sheik or Samus/ZSS transformations being changed
• Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash not being "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge"
• Pacman and/or Ganondorf not being shown at an E3 2014 Nintendo Direct

OP: http://pastebin.com/zTddsKWn
[/COLLAPSE]
GameFAQs PM Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U" stage
• Exclusion of "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Assist Trophy

OP: http://pastebin.com/MazHmmzn
[/COLLAPSE]
NotSakurai Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Barrel Cannon, Tiki's Tear, or Baby Yoshi items
• Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), Chimera Factory (3DS), 8-Bit Ice Climber (Wii U and 3DS), Prison Island (Wii U) stages
• Inclusion of any Melee stage aside from Battlefield and Final Destination
• Exclusion of Sallya, Tails or Magnus Assist Trophies
• Exclusion of My Unit, Shulk, or Ridley
• Inclusion of Pokemon who is not playable in Brawl or Mewtwo, or Roy or Young Link
• Inclusion of another Mario character
• Exclusion of Dr. Mario skin for Mario

OP: http://pastebin.com/gW9q1daE
[/COLLAPSE]
Four Revealed Newcomer Info Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Any listed move for Villager, WFT, Mega Man and Rosalina behaving opposite to description
• Exclusion of Sheik transformation
• Phantom being anything but an Assist Trophy

OP: http://pastebin.com/tfirfp3K
[/COLLAPSE]
Illiterate Leak (#1) *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), or Prison Island (Wii U) stages
• Exclusion of Little Mac, Mii, Shulk, Anna, Pacman, Palutena, Mewtwo, Ness, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, Ganondorf or Falco

OP: http://pastebin.com/WRXmEfyU
[/COLLAPSE]
Generic Short New Namco Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Mii, Ike, Ness, ROB, Little Mac, K. Rool, Mewtwo

OP: http://pastebin.com/cZ8qH1Dj
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Ridley, or Little Mac
• Exclusion of Metroid, Anthony Higgs, Nabbit, Toadsworth, Kamek, Cranky, Tingle, Beedle, Tom Nook, or Hector Assist Trophies
• Little Mac's home stage not being the boxing ring
• Ridley's home stage not being Pyrosphere

OP: http://pastebin.com/mbwtK8Zt
[/COLLAPSE]
Neogaf Rumor
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Target release date that is not spring

OP: N/A
[/COLLAPSE]
Spacechannel5 Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Mii, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, and Chrom as characters
• Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a stage hazard
• Exclusion of Falco, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, or Ike
• Inclusion of Snake or Jigglypuff
• Exclusion of Audino as a pokeball and Lucina as an assist trophy
• Planned release date that is not June

OP: http://pastebin.com/767X7x6h
[/COLLAPSE]
Naryol Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Inclusion of Geno or Goku
• Roster with more or less than 42 characters
• More or less than 3 third parties
• Inclusion of Ridley, King K Rool, or Bowser Jr. as playable characters
• Exclusion of Lucario or R.O.B

OP: http://pastebin.com/uVmHnZXC
[/COLLAPSE]
E Gadd Leak
[Collapse="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Professor E Gadd, Tingle, and Dixie Kong (as her own character)
• Exclusion of Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, and Ganondorf
• Exclusion of Bowser Jr, King Boo, Hammer Bro, Waluigi, Kat & Ana, Kamek, Cranky Kong, Midna and Wolf Link, Beedle, and Metroid assist trophies
• Inclusion of Lakitu assist trophy
• Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a boss
• Inclusion of King K Rool as anything but a stage element
• Exclusion of Gangplank Galleon stage

OP: http://pastebin.com/EqViSATv
[/COLLAPSE]
Three Post Leak/Tabuu Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• More or less than 59 characters in the game (including transformations)
• More or less than 53 character slots on the roster
• Exclusion of any Brawl Character
• Zero Suit Samus not able to be selected at the character select screen
• Jigglypuff not having a moveset with elements from her new Fairy type
• Snake not being revealed in a Nintendo Direct that will announce a Metal Gear Wii U game.
• Inclusion of Pokemon Trainer whose Pokemon do not include Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Blaziken.
• Inclusion of stamina for the Pokemon Trainer
• Exclusion of Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu
• Exclusion of a Dr. Luigi alt for Dr. Mario
• Exclusion of Drawing Link/Young Link, Charizard/Mega Charizard X, King K Rool, RIdley, Palutena, Robin/Avatar, Little Mac, Mii, Pac-Man, or Tabuu
• Exclusion of female alt for Robin/Avatar
• Exclusion of Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie default Miis.
• Exclusion of Shulk assist trophy

OP: http://pastebin.com/SXWvG2J6
[/COLLAPSE]
Hyrule Goddesses Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of every Brawl veteran except for Snake
• Exclusion of Lucina, Takamaru, Little Mac, King K Rool, Palutena, Pac-Man, Galacta Knight, Hyrule Goddesses (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Lucina, Takamaru, and Little Mac.
• Inclusion of another newcomer not stated in that list.
• Exclusion of a Golden Mushroom, Love-love stick, Monado, Ice Flower, and Proto Shield items.
• Exclusion of Another Dimension, Chaos Theatre, Popples Islands, Lightning (F-Zero), Planet Wisp, NES Pinball, and Murasame Castle stages.
• Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Dillon, T-Rex, Wrestler, Quick Man, Eggplant Wizard, Yveltal, Chesnaught, Floette, Doublade, Genesect, Reshiram, and Zekrom as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies.
• Exclusion of Mii Mode (basically a regular match except with only Miis).
• Inclusion of Mii outside of Mii Mode.

[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak #2
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of every Brawl Veteran except for Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Young Link, Jigglypuff, and Snake.
• Exclusion of Charizard (solo fighter), Pokemon Trainer (with Sylveon, Leafeon, Vaporean), Mewtwo, Takamaru, Palutena, Little Mac, Dixie Kong, Shulk, and Lucina.
• Inclusion of any returning stage beside Pokemon Stadium 2 and Yoshi's Island (not Final Destination ???)
• Exclusion of Serperior, Reshram, Zekram, and the X and Y legendaries as pokeball pokemon.
• Exclusion of Home-Run Contest, Break the Targets, and Events (Wii U exclusive)

[/COLLAPSE]
"ChaosZero" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Inclusion of King K Rool and Ridley as playable characters
• Dixie Kong being partnered with Diddy
• Online mode without the ability to host rooms or choose what items are available

[/COLLAPSE]
Monster Hunter Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Little Mac, Prince Sable, Palutena, Takamaru, Mii, Shulk, Monster Hunter, Slime, and Pac-Man
• Inclusion of any other newcomer besides the ones listed above

[/COLLAPSE]
Mjardo Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Prince Sable, a different retro newcomer, Lucas, and a Pokemon Trainer-like character
• Exclusion of a Tropical Freeze stage

[/COLLAPSE]
Angry Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Palutena, Little Mac, and Ridley
• Exclusion of Ridley as a stage hazard (yes, he's both)
• Inclusion of King K Rool or Geno
• Exclusion of Sami and Primid as assist trophies
• Exclusion of Pokemon Stadium 3, Nintendo Land, and Miiverse stages

[/COLLAPSE]
ErenJager Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Megaman's final smash not being Rush Armor Upgrade and Villager's not using bees
• Exclusion of Waluigi as an assist trophy
• Skull Kid not being "Snorlax with a moon"
• Exclusion of Palutena as an assist trophy

[/COLLAPSE]
4chan Leaker (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Palutena not being the next newcomer revealed

[/COLLAPSE]
E3 2014 4chan Leaker
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Target release date not being July
• Inclusion of cuts
• A demo not appearing at E3 (Includes Mario, Link, Pikachu, Kirby, and Samus)
• Official release date not being announced at E3
• Ridley, Pac-Man, and Takamaru not being revealed at E3
• Ridley not using his design from Other M
• Exclusion of Mii
• Mii being revealed at E3
• Exclusion of unlockable costumes
• Exclusion of Dr. Mario and Dark Samus costumes
• A costume customization feature not being added
• Exclusion of 10 different themes for stage builder
• Snake not being revealed during a direct that a.so announces a new Metal Gear Solid title for the Wii U

[/COLLAPSE]
4chan Leaker (#2)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Palutena, Mii, Pac-Man, Takamaru, Prince Sable, DIxie Kong, Ghirahm, and Mewtwo.
• Inclusion of any other newcomer not listed above.

[/COLLAPSE]
4chan Leaker (#3)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of E Gadd and Tingle

[/COLLAPSE]
Random Username Leaker
[COLLAPSE="KIllable By:"]

• Exclusion of Palutena, K Rool, Chrom, and Bubbles
• Inclusion of cuts
• Exclusion of Tiki's Tear, Medusa Head, Tempure Bomb, and Ice Flower items
• Exclusion of Mr. Resetti, Shadow, Saki, Andross, King Hippo, King Gangrel, Tom Nook, Toadsworth, Protoman, and Duster assist trophies

[/COLLAPSE]
"Mew2King" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Ridley, Ghirahim, Palutena, Mewtwo, Chrom, Funky Kong, Professor Layton, and Zitz

[/COLLAPSE]
Hanafuda Leak (#2)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Toad, Dixie Kong, Tingle, Mewtwo, Ridley, Palutena, Chrom, Yoshi & Baby Mario, Kamek, Tom Nook, Andy, Mii, and Hanafuda

[/COLLAPSE]

Just for future reference, I haven't added the extremely vague leaks, but if you would like to view them, here are the links
http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-rumours-and-leaks.338842/page-405#post-16370074 (Xplizit)
http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-rumours-and-leaks.338842/page-406#post-16370456 (Xplizit #2)

[/COLLAPSE]

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Spoiler

Spoiler: Dead Leaks

Dead:

Journalist Leak - Comprised of a "final roster" without Rosalina or Toon Link.
Reddit Leak - Claims that Rosalina is an Assist Trophy.
ThatWasPeachy False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Wegenbarth False Leak - See above.
APC99 False Leak - See above.
Occopicus Leak - Fortanono fake.
60 Character Roster Leak - Someone in this thread (don't remember) confessed to making it.
splat False Leak - Self-explanatory.
MisterVideoGaming False Leak - See above.
Competitive Arsehole Friend Leak - Clever analysis by Groose indicates that numbers-based poster username spells out "'Tis Fake!"
Early February 2013 Crap Leak - Claims that "Mega Man is off the table."
Smashboardian Leak That I Think Fortanono Made Leak - I was correct.
legendofrob1 False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Illiterate Leak (#2) - Said that Captain Falcon would be revealed on January 21st.
Toots Leak - Leaker admitted it was fake
Mr. Prediction Leak - Said that Shulk would be revealed on January 30th.
Hanafuda Leak (#1) - Said Lucario was cut.
Basty Leak - Also said that Lucario was cut.
Sandbag Leak - Said that Sandbag would be revealed on January 31st.
Really Short Leak - Lucario was revealed before Captain Falcon.
Frostwraith Leak - Self-explanatory.
Sakura Leak - Says that "Smash 5" is already in development by a different studio, when Sakurai has stated that SSBU and SSB3DS are Smash 4 and 5.
Sesquin Leak - Stated that Spear Pillar would return, but Palkia (major stage element of Spear Pillar) has been confirmed as a pokeball Pokemon.
Gandalf69me Leak - Admitted Fake
"Somebody is Coming" Leak - See above
Cap'nChreest Leak - See above
Souta Satou Leak - Yoshi Kato's email was soutasatou@____.com (they had different claims)
Yoshi Kato Leak - See above
Sound Guy Leak - Said Diddy would be next revealed (Little Mac was revealed before)
Veteran Leak - See above
Glass Joe Leak - Said that Diddy would be revealed on February 13th.
IGN Leak (#1) - See above
Year of Yoshi Leak - Said Yoshi and Baby Mario would be revealed during the direct on February 13th
Future Leaker Leak - Admitted fake
Diddy Kong Website Leak - Diddy Kong's background color is red, not blue
Illiterate Leak (#3) - Said that a "frozen DK Isle" stage would be revealed on DKTF's US release date
Ceres Leak - Had the same IP as another Smashboards user
Suomynona Leak - See above
New Nintendo Direct Stuff Leak - Said Mii would be revealed in the next direct.
CrimsonDivine Leak - The source admitted to have made it up
Over-Representation Leak (#1) - Said Waluigi was playable
GaeozHero Leak - Said "Ms. Tetris" would be revealed in February
Yoshi Website Leak - Said Yoshi would be revealed on March 13th
Baby Bros Leak - The models were from Super Mario Sluggers (edited from the T position)
Revealer Leak - Said we'd be getting at least 2 characters revealed per month (March had no reveals)

Live:

Jumpman Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
• Inclusion of Snake
• Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
• Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
• Exclusion of Cannon Box item

Betternet Roster Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Inclusion of Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake, Pokemon Trainer with Brawl Pokemon
• Inclusion of newcomer who is not Dixie, Toon Zelda, Palutena, Krystal, Chrom & Lucina, Mii, Little Mac, Takamaru, or Pacman
• Exclusion of any non-listed Brawl veteran or Mewtwo
• Mewtwo using a Mega Form, not using "Psycho Break" Final Smash
• Zelda/Sheik or Samus/ZSS transformations being changed
• Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash not being "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge"
• Pacman and/or Ganondorf not being shown at an E3 2014 Nintendo Direct

OP: http://pastebin.com/zTddsKWn
[/COLLAPSE]
GameFAQs PM Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U" stage
• Exclusion of "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Assist Trophy

OP: http://pastebin.com/MazHmmzn
[/COLLAPSE]
NotSakurai Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Barrel Cannon, Tiki's Tear, or Baby Yoshi items
• Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), Chimera Factory (3DS), 8-Bit Ice Climber (Wii U and 3DS), Prison Island (Wii U) stages
• Inclusion of any Melee stage aside from Battlefield and Final Destination
• Exclusion of Sallya, Tails or Magnus Assist Trophies
• Exclusion of My Unit, Shulk, or Ridley
• Inclusion of Pokemon who is not playable in Brawl or Mewtwo, or Roy or Young Link
• Inclusion of another Mario character
• Exclusion of Dr. Mario skin for Mario

OP: http://pastebin.com/gW9q1daE
[/COLLAPSE]
Four Revealed Newcomer Info Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Any listed move for Villager, WFT, Mega Man and Rosalina behaving opposite to description
• Exclusion of Sheik transformation
• Phantom being anything but an Assist Trophy

OP: http://pastebin.com/tfirfp3K
[/COLLAPSE]
Illiterate Leak (#1) *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), or Prison Island (Wii U) stages
• Exclusion of Little Mac, Mii, Shulk, Anna, Pacman, Palutena, Mewtwo, Ness, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, Ganondorf or Falco

OP: http://pastebin.com/WRXmEfyU
[/COLLAPSE]
Generic Short New Namco Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Mii, Ike, Ness, ROB, Little Mac, K. Rool, Mewtwo

OP: http://pastebin.com/cZ8qH1Dj
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Ridley, or Little Mac
• Exclusion of Metroid, Anthony Higgs, Nabbit, Toadsworth, Kamek, Cranky, Tingle, Beedle, Tom Nook, or Hector Assist Trophies
• Little Mac's home stage not being the boxing ring
• Ridley's home stage not being Pyrosphere

OP: http://pastebin.com/mbwtK8Zt
[/COLLAPSE]
Neogaf Rumor
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Spring not being the target release date

OP: N/A
[/COLLAPSE]
Spacechannel5 Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Mii, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, and Chrom as characters
• Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a stage hazard
• Exclusion of Falco, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, or Ike
• Inclusion of Snake or Jigglypuff
• Exclusion of Audino as a pokeball and Lucina as an assist trophy
• Planned release date that is not June

OP: http://pastebin.com/767X7x6h
[/COLLAPSE]
Naryol Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Inclusion of Geno or Goku
• Roster with more or less than 42 characters
• More or less than 3 third parties
• Inclusion of Ridley, King K Rool, or Bowser Jr. as playable characters
• Exclusion of Lucario or R.O.B

OP: http://pastebin.com/uVmHnZXC
[/COLLAPSE]
E Gadd Leak
[Collapse="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Professor E Gadd, Tingle, and Dixie Kong (as her own character)
• Exclusion of Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, and Ganondorf
• Exclusion of Bowser Jr, King Boo, Hammer Bro, Waluigi, Kat & Ana, Kamek, Cranky Kong, Midna and Wolf Link, Beedle, and Metroid assist trophies
• Inclusion of Lakitu assist trophy
• Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a boss
• Inclusion of King K Rool as anything but a stage element
• Exclusion of Gangplank Galleon stage

OP: http://pastebin.com/EqViSATv
[/COLLAPSE]
Three Post Leak/Tabuu Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• More or less than 59 characters in the game (including transformations)
• More or less than 53 character slots on the roster
• Exclusion of any Brawl Character
• Zero Suit Samus not able to be selected at the character select screen
• Jigglypuff not having a moveset with elements from her new Fairy type
• Snake not being revealed in a Nintendo Direct that will announce a Metal Gear Wii U game.
• Inclusion of Pokemon Trainer whose Pokemon do not include Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Blaziken.
• Inclusion of stamina for the Pokemon Trainer
• Exclusion of Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu
• Exclusion of a Dr. Luigi alt for Dr. Mario
• Exclusion of Drawing Link/Young Link, Charizard/Mega Charizard X, King K Rool, RIdley, Palutena, Robin/Avatar, Little Mac, Mii, Pac-Man, or Tabuu
• Exclusion of female alt for Robin/Avatar
• Exclusion of Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie default Miis.
• Exclusion of Shulk assist trophy

OP: http://pastebin.com/SXWvG2J6
[/COLLAPSE]
Hyrule Goddesses Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of every Brawl veteran except for Snake
• Exclusion of Lucina, Takamaru, Little Mac, King K Rool, Palutena, Pac-Man, Galacta Knight, Hyrule Goddesses (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Lucina, Takamaru, and Little Mac.
• Inclusion of another newcomer not stated in that list.
• Exclusion of a Golden Mushroom, Love-love stick, Monado, Ice Flower, and Proto Shield items.
• Exclusion of Another Dimension, Chaos Theatre, Popples Islands, Lightning (F-Zero), Planet Wisp, NES Pinball, and Murasame Castle stages.
• Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Dillon, T-Rex, Wrestler, Quick Man, Eggplant Wizard, Yveltal, Chesnaught, Floette, Doublade, Genesect, Reshiram, and Zekrom as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies.
• Exclusion of Mii Mode (basically a regular match except with only Miis).
• Inclusion of Mii outside of Mii Mode.

[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak #2
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of every Brawl Veteran except for Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Young Link, Jigglypuff, and Snake.
• Exclusion of Charizard (solo fighter), Pokemon Trainer (with Sylveon, Leafeon, Vaporean), Mewtwo, Takamaru, Palutena, Little Mac, Dixie Kong, Shulk, and Lucina.
• Inclusion of any returning stage beside Pokemon Stadium 2 and Yoshi's Island (not Final Destination ???)
• Exclusion of Serperior, Reshram, Zekram, and the X and Y legendaries as pokeball pokemon.
• Exclusion of Home-Run Contest, Break the Targets, and Events (Wii U exclusive)

[/COLLAPSE]
"ChaosZero" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Inclusion of King K Rool and Ridley as playable characters
• Dixie Kong being partnered with Diddy
• Online mode without the ability to host rooms or choose what items are available

[/COLLAPSE]
Monster Hunter Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Little Mac, Prince Sable, Palutena, Takamaru, Mii, Shulk, Monster Hunter, Slime, and Pac-Man
• Inclusion of any other newcomer besides the ones listed above

[/COLLAPSE]
Mjardo Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Prince Sable, a different retro newcomer, Lucas, and a Pokemon Trainer-like character
• Exclusion of a Tropical Freeze stage

[/COLLAPSE]
Angry Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Exclusion of Palutena, Little Mac, and Ridley
• Exclusion of Ridley as a stage hazard (yes, he's both)
• Inclusion of King K Rool or Geno
• Exclusion of Sami and Primid as assist trophies
• Exclusion of Pokemon Stadium 3, Nintendo Land, and Miiverse stages

[/COLLAPSE]
ErenJager Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Megaman's final smash not being Rush Armor Upgrade and Villager's not using bees
• Exclusion of Waluigi as an assist trophy
• Skull Kid not being "Snorlax with a moon"
• Exclusion of Palutena as an assist trophy

[/COLLAPSE]
4chan Leaker (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Palutena not being the next newcomer revealed

[/COLLAPSE]
E3 2014 4chan Leaker
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]

• Target release date not being July
• Inclusion of cuts
• A demo not appearing at E3 (Includes Mario, Link, Pikachu, Kirby, and Samus)
• Official release date not being announced at E3
• Ridley, Pac-Man, and Takamaru not being revealed at E3
• Ridley not using his design from Other M
• Exclusion of Mii
• Mii being revealed at E3
• Exclusion of unlockable costumes
• Exclusion of Dr. Mario and Dark Samus costumes
• A costume customization feature not being added
• Exclusion of 10 different themes for stage builder
• Snake not being revealed during a direct that a.so announces a new Metal Gear Solid title for the Wii U

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4chan Leaker (#2)
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• Exclusion of Palutena, Mii, Pac-Man, Takamaru, Prince Sable, DIxie Kong, Ghirahm, and Mewtwo.
• Inclusion of any other newcomer not listed above.

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4chan Leaker (#3)
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• Exclusion of E Gadd and Tingle

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Random Username Leaker
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• Exclusion of Palutena, K Rool, Chrom, and Bubbles
• Inclusion of cuts
• Exclusion of Tiki's Tear, Medusa Head, Tempure Bomb, and Ice Flower items
• Exclusion of Mr. Resetti, Shadow, Saki, Andross, King Hippo, King Gangrel, Tom Nook, Toadsworth, Protoman, and Duster assist trophies

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"Mew2King" Leak
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• Exclusion of Ridley, Ghirahim, Palutena, Mewtwo, Chrom, Funky Kong, Professor Layton, and Zitz

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Hanafuda Leak (#2)
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• Exclusion of Toad, Dixie Kong, Tingle, Mewtwo, Ridley, Palutena, Chrom, Yoshi & Baby Mario, Kamek, Tom Nook, Andy, Mii, and Hanafuda

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Gaxel's Friend Leak
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• Inclusion of King K Rool, Geno, and My Unit
• Exclusion of Ridley and Chrom

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Neoseeker Leak (#3)
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• Exclusion of Mii, Shulk, Bandana Dee, and Prince Sable as playable characters
• Exclusion of Richard, Tails, Yveltal, and Arceus as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies
• Exclusion of an "X" stage, a DKC:TF stage, and a Wonderful 101 stage
• Exclusion of Sector 4

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RosalinaX Leak
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• Final roster being more or less than 48 characters
• The amount of cuts being more or less than 4

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Just for future reference, I haven't added the extremely vague leaks, but if you would like to view them, here are the links
http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-rumours-and-leaks.338842/page-405#post-16370074 (Xplizit)
http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-rumours-and-leaks.338842/page-406#post-16370456 (Xplizit #2)

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Here it is.
And I was ninja'd

 

[Lecruix]

Just saying Pac-Man's not getting in doesn't convince any of us. Care to elaborate?

Namco gets NO priority.

Grab your bingo cards!
Will it be:
Irrelevance.
Moveset.
Better choices.
Or Lloyd?

Lloyd has no chance in hell.

 

[Hinata]

Back on topic, did the guy on the Mario Kart forums elaborate on Smash Bros. any further?

Not that I know of. All things considered, he probably didn't. If he didn't have true info, he didn't want to dig his grave any deeper. If he did, he wouldn't want to draw more attention to himself.

 

[Substitution]

Lloyd has no chance in hell.

Welp, my joke bombed.
...I'll be over here...

Not that I know of. All things considered, he probably didn't. If he didn't have true info, he didn't want to dig his grave any deeper. If he did, he wouldn't want to draw more attention to himself.

Didn't someone here say he enjoyed attention?

 

[gameb0ybryan]

Lloyd has no chance in hell.

Please try not to double post (posting twice in a row) and try to explain your thoughts on why you believe that. Vague statements are hard to make conversation from.

As far as leaks go, this one leak in GRG's list had me almost convinced..........until I saw that Jigglypuff was cut.

 

[Xarreno]

No new leaks since. But I think that any "leaker" who comes here the next week will probably be fake IMO.
It will be the same, repetitively boring, safe leaks all over again. I'm wondering if the leakers are tired of being safe now. By the time the leakers get one newcomer wrong because an unexpected newcomer was revealed, I suggest that they give up making leaks, because in the long run, there's no point to making a leak if you can't provide actual information.

So with your logic, it sounds like this thread is dead until we get a release date. Then, all the leaks that come within one or two months of release could potentially be legit. Sounds legit.

Seriously though, it does get to the point of boredom when you realize the only leaks worth talking about are too safe to be proven false. Too bad so many people want attention...

 

[BluePikmin11]

The thread should be dead, unless you guys want to be very progressive on leaks and do an analysis for each leak, with how it could be potentially true or false with the various aspects revolving in the leak.

 

[Hinata]

The thread should be dead, unless you guys want to be very progressive on leaks and do an analysis for each leak, with how it could be potentially true or false with the various aspects revolving in the leak.

Is that not the main purpose for us being here? Then again, picking apart leaks really only works for ones with pictures...

 

[MasterofMonster]

Like others have said, Miis and Pac-Man are almost a given, so, yeah.

Anyways. That Mario Kart leak. Anything new about that? I assume not?

 

[Xarreno]

Namco gets NO priority.

Lloyd has no chance in hell.

Come now, this is no time to be bickering personal preferences.

You never know, it could go either way.

 

[Fatmanonice]

This thread does feel kind of forced most of the time. For Brawl we didn't get any legit rumors until the game had gone gold and with this game we still don't have a ballpark release date. This game probably has another 3 or 4 months before it reaches that point.

 

[MasterofMonster]

This thread does feel kind of forced most of the time. For Brawl we didn't get any legit rumors until the game had gone gold and with this game we still don't have a ballpark release date. This game probably has another 3 or 4 months before it reaches that point.

But at least this time we've gotten one (almost certanly) legit leak (Palutena). That's a first in Smash, I Believe.

Then again, didn't follow these things very much in Brawl's time.

 

[Lecruix]

Like others have said, Miis and Pac-Man are almost a given, so, yeah.

Anyways. That Mario Kart leak. Anything new about that? I assume not?

The Mario Kart leak is fake and Pac-Man isn't a given. I saw a leak on 4chan a while back that has no flaws. All I remember is them predicting WFT and getting THE EXACT DATE of Mac's reveal right.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Since the Palutena leak, I can imagine that Sakurai is probably being more strict about his team sharing info. I feel that were going to get less and less true leaks as the months go by.

 

[APC99]

The Mario Kart leak is fake and Pac-Man isn't a given. I saw a leak on 4chan a while back that has no flaws. All I remember is them predicting WFT and getting THE EXACT DATE of Mac's reveal right.

I'm curious, how exactly can you confirm anything? Are you a worker? Or are you some character hater who just really wants to piss off some of their fans?

Because I think that K. Rool and Ridley seem to be missing on purpose.

 

[Gaxel]

Just posted on /v/...

Tin Star...?

http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/234745762

 

[Lecruix]

I'm curious, how exactly can you confirm anything? Are you a worker? Or are you some character hater who just really wants to piss off some of their fans?

Because I think that K. Rool and Ridley seem to be missing on purpose.

I can think logically.

Just posted on /v/...

Tin Star...?

http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/234745762

I'll put my distaste for Pac aside and admit that this is a fairly good roster.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Tin Star, interesting retro choice.
But why him? O.o
His game was generally uninteresting, what could they do to revive his series.
Wait a mind, "Newcomers for Smash", wouldn't that be applying that this a list of newcomers the user wants.

 

[MasterofMonster]

@ Lecruix
You keep saying you can see the future, without explaining why, so I will not take you seriously until you do.
And please, STOP double posting all the time.

@ Gaxel
Oh, neat. Thank you. ^^

 

[Lecruix]

@ Lecruix
You keep saying you can see the future, without explaining why, so I will not take you seriously until you do.
And please, STOP double posting all the time.

@ Gaxel
Oh, neat. Thank you. ^^

When have I ever? Believe what you want mate, doesn't matter to me. Also, Tinstar is an old 3rd party game, why would they resurrect it?

 

[gameb0ybryan]

Just posted on /v/...

Tin Star...?

http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/234745762

Expanded upon on site:

-Pokemon stage from X/Y on 3ds version. Seems like a cafe.
-Donkey Kong stage called Gangplank Galleon (?)
-Tin Star stage involving a moving carriage.
-Super Mario 3D World stage with Plessie as a stage hazard.

Pokemon/DK stages were stated in previous leaks recently that sound just like the ones mentioned here.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Another leak with the Cafe. O.o
What the hell are you doing Sakurai?

 

[Fatmanonice]

When did Prince Sable become a staple for these rumors? It reminds me of how Lip was shoehorned into just about every rumor back in the preBrawl days.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Why Plessie would be a hazard? he's so friendly. =P

 

[Substitution]

Just posted on /v/...

Tin Star...?

http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/234745762

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Star_(video_game)

 

[Xarreno]

Tin Star, interesting retro choice.
But why him? O.o
His game was generally uninteresting, what could they do to revive his series.
Wait a mind, "Newcomers for Smash", wouldn't that be applying that this a list of newcomers the user wants.

Sounds that way to me. Tin Star is not really a notable choice. In all honesty, if that were to come back it would have hit during the wii era where we got Link's Crossbow Training.

That list looks pretty safe too. Not in actual expectations, but what pretty much everyone wants in one way or another. Except for a lack of DK rep. There are a lot of retro choices listed in it too.

 

[BluePikmin11]

When did Prince Sable become a staple for these rumors? It reminds me of how Lip was shoehorned into just about every rumor back in the preBrawl days.

It became a staple when Mjardo budged in Sabure Prince as playable in the game.

 

[Gaxel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Star_(video_game)

Yeah, I searched it immediately after... He seems like a cool addition, the game looks horribad though.

Also, wtf...

They really need more playable villains... It would only be Bowser, Ganondorf (assuming not dropped), Ghirahim, Ridley and Wario.

 

[MasterofMonster]

@ Lecruix
Claiming someone won't be in as if you know what will happen is Close enough. And you seem to care an aweful lot about what people Believe since you keep quoting people just to say Pac-Man won't be in.

@ Substitution
Oh gawd, that looks... horrible. XD It would fin in Smash, that's for sure, lol.

 

[Substitution]

Yeah, I searched it immediately after... He seems like a cool addition, the game looks horribad though.

Oh gawd, that looks... horrible. XD It would fin in Smash, that's for sure, lol.

Relevant.

This, is his game.

 

[APC99]

I can think logically.

So you're not leaking, you're just trying to convince us your opinion is that correct one and that Pac-Man is a stupid idea and all supporters secretly hate Smash Bros., puppies, world peace and are servants of the Devil.

TAKE COVER! ​

 

[Fatmanonice]

I think the person mixed up Tin Star with Sheriff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriff_(video_game)

This would make more sense, seeing as it's first party, not a random third party game.

 

[BluePikmin11]

According to @Zhadgon, Tin Star is first party. So he is a possible choice.

 

[Fatmanonice]

According to its Wiki page, it's not only third party but it was a North American exclusive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Star_(video_game)

 

[Substitution]

According to its Wiki page, it's not only third party but it was a North American exclusive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Star_(video_game)

So, is it safe to say that this new leak can be thrown out the window?

 

[Xarreno]

Why Plessie would be a hazard? he's so friendly. =P

Maybe he would slide across the stage every once and a while and push you into some water. Could be a fairly reasonable hazard. You would bounce on Plessie if you landed on him.

So, is it safe to say that this new leak can be thrown out the window?

I'd say so. Nintendo isn't really known for reviving anything that was country exclusive.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Maybe he would slide across the stage every once and a while and push you into some water. Could be a fairly reasonable hazard. You would bounce on Plessie if you landed on him.

I'd say so. Nintendo isn't really known for reviving anything that was country exclusive.

Though Japan might be an exception.

 

[IsmaR]

I can think logically.

This is the last time I will warn you about double posting. If you have more to add when you were the last one to post, use the edit button.

Furthermore, your condescending tone has no place here. As many have said before, this thread is for discussing the validity and development of Rumors and Leaks, not how much you dislike the characters on or missing from said leaks. If you can truly think "logically," then please do so, and leave opinions out of it.

 

[Whit]

I must say I think that the inclusion of Tin Star shuts this leak down. If they are going to add any sort of cowboy to smash I would think the top candidate would be Dillon from Dillon's Rolling Western.