SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Arcadenik]

Golden, notice the time stamp... it says December 2013... the post says the Palutena leak was real and Sakurai fired the leaker.... except that happened in January 2014.... so unless the leaker can see the future, I believe it is fake.

 

[Katy Parry]

I want it to be true. Issac would be playable :/

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Except that.....Sakurai brought up that "multiple character combatants like the Ice Climbers were proving to be a technical challenge on the 3DS".

Don't get me wrong, that leak is fake. But not for that reason.
Want something that really stands out? The fact that there was no knowledge of the "Palutena leak" on the date the post for this leak was supposedly made.

Wanna know an even bigger thing that stands out?

Lucario isn't mentioned at all.

 

[Arcadenik]

Wanna know an even bigger thing that stands out?

Lucario isn't mentioned at all.

I thought Lucario was implied under the "everyone is returning from Brawl"... but Mega Man wasn't mentioned there... and that list has all the four other confirmed newcomers.

 

[Deleted member]

Golden, notice the time stamp... it says December 2013... the post says the Palutena leak was real and Sakurai fired the leaker.... except that happened in January 2014.... so unless the leaker can see the future, I believe it is fake.

Don't get me wrong, that leak is fake. But not for that reason.
Want something that really stands out? The fact that there was no knowledge of the "Palutena leak" on the date the post for this leak was supposedly made.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I thought Lucario was implied under the "everyone is returning from Brawl"... but Mega Man wasn't mentioned there... and that list has all the four other confirmed newcomers.

Whoops!

Wrong leak...

Heh hehe...

Embarrass

 

[Deleted member]

Wanna know an even bigger thing that stands out?

Lucario isn't mentioned at all.

Neither is Dedede, Zelda, or Diddy Kong.

EDIT: I see. You were talking about a different one.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Neither is Dedede, Zelda, or Diddy Kong.

Whoops!

Wrong leak...

Heh hehe...

Embarrass

 

[Arcadenik]

Golden, you edited your post while I was typing that post....

 

[Deleted member]

Because you made the assumption I didn't already know said information beforehand.

Touche, or at least it would be if I hadn't already addressed that you were talking about a different leak prior to this post.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Touche, or at least it would be if I hadn't already addressed that you were talking about a different leak prior to this post.

Time Stamp says I posted before you edited.

But enough about this.

What would you do if the "safest" leak was the correct one?

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Yeah, because Captain Falcon was a pretty viable fighting character before smash 64. A game based around war with hundreds of weapons is too hard to make a moveset from.

Use better reasons from now on

Just so I can kill this argument...

Before smash bros. was what it is today, it was a fighting game called Dragon King that Sakurai developed :

http://www.ssbwiki.com/Dragon_King:_The_Fighting_Game

It features a bunch of fighters with styles inspired by Kamen Rider, or it's equivalent, Power Rangers. Captain Falcon is indeed the Dragon King, and a lot of his moves come from the game, if not all of them.

It worked for Captain Falcon for the same reason it worked for characters like Fox and arguably Yoshi who is in many ways a vehicle himself: They had a nich. Falcon was a bounty hunter in a flashy costume, Fox is a mercenary with high tech equipment, and Yoshi could just kick the **** out of you with his Tims. Even though most of it was made up it was true to character.

So what can't it work for someone like Andy, Sami, Eagle or whoever ? Well it can, but it's not likely. It would be very hard to implement moves that are made up that stay true to the gimmick of the game. I mean they did do it for Marth, but he already fought so it's a no brainer, but making a commanding officer work while implementing mechanics that are interesting (not just send out tanks) would be hard and may look awkward since the characters are wielding real weapons, which Sakurai for some reason does not want to support. Not to mention that advance wars is just one of thoseniche games that was amazing but was outshined by Fire Emblem. F-Zero, Star Fox and the like were major contenders from home consoles and really big during their time.

I love Advance Wars; hell I still play Dual Strike. Do I expect a character from the games to be playable ? No, not really, so I just move on. In the end I just learn to love whoever they put in smash. I never played Animal Crossing or Wii Fit, but I'm loving the characters so far; they grow on you.

 

[Deleted member]

Time Stamp says I posted before you edited.

But enough about this.

What would you do if the "safest" leak was the correct one?

Which is the "safest"?

I'm seriously asking.

EDIT:
@ E Eternal phoenix Fire
Four pictures is not really enough to go by with such a claim about Captain Falcon's moveset coming from Dragon King. I can believe some moves were taken from it, and I can believe the model was based off those models shown, but not everything.

And as an fyi, Power Rangers is the equivalent to Super Sentai, not Kamen Rider.
Kamen Rider and Power Rangers/Super Sentai are two completely different franchises under the Tokusatsu genre. It's like saying Pokémon and Digimon are equivalents to each other.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Which is the "safest"?

I'm seriously asking.

I suppose whatever you personally think is safest.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

This just got posted to /v/... Anybody here who can read Katakana?

Spoiler

Link to thread: http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/234279758

 

[DragonRob20]

Just so I can kill this argument...

I love Advance Wars; hell I still play Dual Strike. Do I expect a character from the games to be playable ? No, not really, so I just move on. In the end I just learn to love whoever they put in smash. I never played Animal Crossing or Wii Fit, but I'm loving the characters so far; they grow on you.

Exactly! Ive been nuts for AW since I was in middle school playing it on the bus with friends. But Advance Wars is just not that big of a deal franchise to Nintendo in both the US and ***. Ive moved on too. Besides thing whole thing it should be Andy or Sami or w/e. I seriously just think if they were to add an AW character, it should just be a normal Orange/Red Star Soldier and based its moves around what it does in the game.

 

[Arcanir]

This just got posted to /v/... Anybody here who can read Katakana?

Spoiler

Link to thread: http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/234279758

Someone posted the translation below:

Playable
Mario
Luigi
Princess Peach
Bowser
Rosetta (Rosalina)
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Wario
Yoshi
Link
Princess Zelda
Seek (Sheik)
Ganondorf
Toon link
Tingle
Pikachu
Lucario
Pudding (Jigglypuff)
Pokemon trainer
Squirtle
Fushigisou (Ivysaur)
Charizard
Mewtwo
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Samus Aran
Zero Suit Samus
Ridley
Fox MacLeod
Falco-Rambaldi
Wolf O'Donnell
Ness
Lucas
Captain Falcon
Mars (Marth)
Ike
Rindisu (Lyndis)
Pit
Parutena
Olimar
Villager
WiiFit trainer
Little Mac
Ice Climber
Mr. Game & Watch
Robot
Lip
High round (?)
Snake
Sonic the Hedgehog
Rockman
Pac-Man

No clue on High Round.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

Apparently "High Round" is just a mistranslation of "Takamaru" because that name was written in Kanji. One of the commenters further down the page pointed that out.

 

[Aurora Jenny]

That's... rather slim in the way of newcomers, isn't it?

Someone posted the translation below:



Rindisu I'm assuming is a Fire Emblem character, no clue on High Round.

 

[Monkeymaner]

Someone posted the translation below:

so now here is the question who is Rindisu, High round, and Mars?

 

[insomniac19]

Rindisu is Lyn.

 

[Arcadenik]

Just click on the link you posted there... Anonymous translated the list...

 

[DragonRob20]

>Tingle
>No Isaac

Yup sounds fake to me

 

[Arcadenik]

No Donkey Kong newcomers either... I am disappointed.

 

[Aurora Jenny]

so now here is the question who is Rindisu, High round, and Mars?

Mars would be Marth I think.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Exactly! Ive been nuts for AW since I was in middle school playing it on the bus with friends. But Advance Wars is just not that big of a deal franchise to Nintendo in both the US and ***. Ive moved on too. Besides thing whole thing it should be Andy or Sami or w/e. I seriously just think if they were to add an AW character, it should just be a normal Orange/Red Star Soldier and based its moves around what it does in the game.

Yeah man AW is the ****. I played the hell out of it when I was a kid. Honestly I'm down for a generic grunt. If they get sent flying they just tilt over in the sky with no spiraling or whatever in the same pose where they are holding the rifle lol.

 

[swordbreaker]

High Round is supposed to be Takamaru, but the first kanji is ****** up. This is fake.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

I'm actually pretty excited that Tingle's on there... Still, I doubt this is real at all. Someone could have easily just found the japanese names for all the characters and put them in a list.

 

[DragonRob20]

It is cool they put in Lyn, which is someone I would love to see as a playable fighter. But no Chrom tho? This list sounds way too lacking. Plus again Tingle...no

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

It is cool they put in Lyn, which is someone I would love to see as a playable fighter. But no Chrom tho? This list sounds way too lacking. Plus again Tingle...no

Lyn? No way that's my *****!

I will drop Marth like a bad habit I swear.

 

[Arcadenik]

I pretty much accepted that Tingle would never be in Smash... but I would be happy if Tingle is playable... just so I could tell Smashchu where to shove it.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Haha. Tingle has more of a chance of getting in then a lot of the lot more popular Zelda newcomers people request. He's one of the most recurring Zelda characters after the three we have in and he has his own spin-off series. Something Impa doesn't despite being as recurring as him.

He's far more likely than you make him sound.

 

[Arcanir]

Alright, so in that case, here's the newcomers based on that list:
Rosalina
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Mega Man
Villager
Tingle
Ridley
Lyndis
Palutena
Takamaru
Pac-Man
Lip

So 12 newcomers, no cuts and Mewtwo returns. Personally I'd like these choices overall (though no DK newcomer is disappointing), but as much as I like Lyn I can't see her getting in over Chrom, Lucina or Robin like that, particularly considering how popular Awakening is. Similarly, screwing up Takamaru's Kanji like that is pretty off if we're assuming this is a native Japanese speaker leaking this.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

It is cool they put in Lyn, which is someone I would love to see as a playable fighter. But no Chrom tho? This list sounds way too lacking. Plus again Tingle...no

I count 48 roster slots, they for some reason listed Pokemon Trainer out separately from his Pokemon, and Sheik and ZSS were listed individually too.

No Brawl Cuts, Mewtwo Returns, + 12 Newcomers:
Rosalina
Tingle
Ridley
Lyn
Palutena
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Lip
Takamaru
Mega Man
Pac-Man

Interesting things to note:
- No K. Rool or even Dixie
- Lyn is bizarrely the Fire Emblem newcomer over anyone from Awakening
- No new Pokemon
- No Mii (!)

Everything else makes a lot of sense honestly. Even Tingle, I can't see Sakurai picking any other Zelda character as a newcomer.

(Ninja'd)

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

Just so I can kill this argument...

Before smash bros. was what it is today, it was a fighting game called Dragon King that Sakurai developed :

http://www.ssbwiki.com/Dragon_King:_The_Fighting_Game

It features a bunch of fighters with styles inspired by Kamen Rider, or it's equivalent, Power Rangers. Captain Falcon is indeed the Dragon King, and a lot of his moves come from the game, if not all of them.

It worked for Captain Falcon for the same reason it worked for characters like Fox and arguably Yoshi who is in many ways a vehicle himself: They had a nich. Falcon was a bounty hunter in a flashy costume, Fox is a mercenary with high tech equipment, and Yoshi could just kick the **** out of you with his Tims. Even though most of it was made up it was true to character.

So what can't it work for someone like Andy, Sami, Eagle or whoever ? Well it can, but it's not likely. It would be very hard to implement moves that are made up that stay true to the gimmick of the game. I mean they did do it for Marth, but he already fought so it's a no brainer, but making a commanding officer work while implementing mechanics that are interesting (not just send out tanks) would be hard and may look awkward since the characters are wielding real weapons, which Sakurai for some reason does not want to support. Not to mention that advance wars is just one of thoseniche games that was amazing but was outshined by Fire Emblem. F-Zero, Star Fox and the like were major contenders from home consoles and really big during their time.

I love Advance Wars; hell I still play Dual Strike. Do I expect a character from the games to be playable ? No, not really, so I just move on. In the end I just learn to love whoever they put in smash. I never played Animal Crossing or Wii Fit, but I'm loving the characters so far; they grow on you.

Andy has a gigantic wrench. There's your A attacks. And its a war game...thus he could use explosives, similar to Snake.

Even the most uncreative person on earth could make a moveset for Andy.

 

[Arcadenik]

Blah.... I would rather play as the Infantry Units... they were the ones who did the actual fighting while Andy and other Commanding Officers issued orders like Pokemon Trainers do.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Andy has a gigantic wrench. There's your A attacks. And its a war game...thus he could use explosives, similar to Snake.

Even the most uncreative person on earth could make a moveset for Andy.

And I agree with you, but wouldn't that just be a slap in the face since that's just making **** up? Especially when the franchise has such variety. Sure you can make him like Snake, but we already have Snake, and he is infinitely more popular than any AW character.

 

[DragonRob20]

Guys I seriously hate all these leaks and rumors . Its not even fun anymore :'(

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

And I agree with you, but wouldn't that just be a slap in the face since that's just making **** up? Especially when the franchise has such variety. Sure you can make him like Snake, but we already have Snake, and he is infinitely more popular than any AW character.

A good bit of the moves in smash bros games are made up. Nothing wrong with it.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Was it ever?