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dezeray112

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Another "leak" has been posted on GameFAQs by a user called Betternet:

I'm not going to bother with some vain preface and balderdash in an attempt to establish credibility. Read and think what you will, but remember to come back to this list as more and more revelations show concurrence.

<u>Final Character Roster</u>

1st Row: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Rosalina, Bowser, Wario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Mewtwo
2nd Row: Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Toon Zelda, Pit, Palutena, Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Fox, Falco, Krystal, Marth, Chrom & Lucina
3rd Row: Mii, Wii Fit Trainer, Villager, Ness, Samus, Olimar, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Little Mac, Takamaru, R.O.B., Mr. Game & Watch, Mega Man, Sonic, Pac-Man

All names written as announced upon selection.

Cut: Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake
Reworked: Pokemon Trainer

Clarifications and general information are as followed:
- Mewtwo was the final character solidified in the roster.
- Mewtwo will not use either Mega Form.
- Mewtwo's Final Smash is called "Psycho Break".
- Lucario's Final Smash has not been finalized.
- Zelda's transformation into Sheik has not been changed.
- Samus's transformation into Zero Suit Samus has not been changed.
- Pokemon Trainer no longer commands Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard.
- Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash is called "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge".
- Pac-Man will be announced at E3 2014 via Nintendo Direct.
- Ganondorf will be revealed at E3 2014 via Nintendo Direct.
- Release date will be announced at E3 2014: Wii U being "early autumn" and 3DS during the holidays.
- Other characters are at the whim of marketing demands regarding showcasing

Regarding Chrom & Lucina: During the selection screen, the player may choose who to start the match with. Both Chrom and Lucina have a separate moveset and fight individually, save for when any of their specials are used, at which point their partner will materialize (having been out of view in any other circumstance) to perform a combo and switch them out. Their specials are the same in name but perform slightly differently depending on who was in use upon their activation. They share the same Final Smash, which does not induce a swap out. Switching is instant, considering the special being used, and has no transformation delay.

Regarding Krystal: No blaster--she uses her anticipated staff from Star Fox Adventures. Her Final Smash isn't yet decided but is narrowed to the names "Krazoa Spirit", "Krazoa Takes" (which may be a misinterpretation on my end), simply "Krazoa", and "Quake".

That is all I know for the time being. Other details and finishing touches I will learn gradually throughout the first and second quarters, upon which time most information will be pouring out regardless. I'll close in saying that this isn't my first time at the rodeo, fellows, and that I know how this whole routine usually plays out; despite inevitable doubt and ridicule (even though complaints at the "drought of information" are everpresent and ongoing), know that it was my pleasure to share this leaked information with my peers and friends, as it always.


BTW, here's the topic link while it's still up: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68136761

So I see this is the latest rumor. Takes this with a grain of salt as usual.
 

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Hello, I'm the Super Smash Brother from the Super Smash Brothers.
I can't reveil my position, but I'm currently employed in working for the next Super Smash Bros Title for the Wii U and the 3DS.
English is not my mother language as it is japanese, so please excuse me for that in advance.

I made this account in disguise, I am using a Waluigi fanboy Avatar and trolled here and there at SmashBoards, in order to not getting noticed by the authorities at Nintendo. I also payed other people to do fake leaks, in order to make a huge mess so nobody knows which one might be true.
Sadly, none of them has the mind of a Sakurai, thus all fake leaks getting destroyed one after another.
I want to show you the current character roster, character changes and stages which are planned for the Wii U, but we aren't finished in deciding which stages should be used in the 3DS Version yet. Regarding Assist Trophies, most of them are usually done late, so they are also not finalized.
I am doing this in order to secretly hype you guys, so SmashBros will be even more succesfull and help with getting the sales for the Wii U up.

Characters:

Sakurai, despite ranting at the start of the development that simply doing a character roster of 50 and calling it the day wouldn't be enough, doesn't mean that you have to expect only a depressive small number of newcomer. After all, this is what makes SmashBros sell the most, if you get what I mean.
Now, with also Rosalina shown, you can guess that Sakurai made weird character choices so far for the fourth installment.
The full planned character rooster is:

Mario (he and Luigi have a Doc costume, which also changes the sound and visuals of the fireballs to a pill. Sakurai initially planned to make
Dr Mario a seperate character like in Melee, but changed his mind as this is less time consuming)
Luigi (see Mario, but his FinalSmash got changed to some kind of vacuum cleaner)
Bowser (most changes to his moveset were already shown. I think he is a pretty good character now. His Ultrasmash got changed so he can be knocked by strong attacks, but he has way more weight and attackpower himself so fighting him isn't a wise idea)
Peach (Her turnips have more different visuals, like in the Super Mario Bros 2 /Doki Doki panic game. Sakurai ranted that he would have changed the normal B attack if the mushroomhat guy was a playable character in SmashBros, and laughed a bit scary.)
Rosalina (when Sakurai mentioned her first, I was as much suprised as you, I can tell. Sakurai spent most of the time on working for a good moveset on this character, as she is rather complex)
Waluigi (I have to admit, he is my favourite character from those who are 100% finished. For this character, he made the whole team think of moveset ideas from the Mario Party and Sports games. He has many suprises on his sleeve, swimming in the air and using "cheat"like moves are some of them)


Link (his boomerang got changed. he now uses something new, which will Sakurai show in January to the public with a picture)
Zelda&Shiek (she keeps her twilight princess look. Nearly nothing changed, despite some balance changes to make her a "bit" stronger.)
ToonLink (he keeps the boomerang. Sakurai is also thinking if he gives YoungLink a glide with the deku-leaf, a thing which Aonuma suggested when he was visiting us)
Ganondorf (He now uses a sword, but with only a few of his attacks. Sakurai felt very guilty to change him at first, but the result made him proud. Some popular moves like his DownAir and Upsmash stayed the same, but his special attacks were all changed)
Tingle (this character is the one I liked the most. Despite the big hate around him, Sakurai made Tingle a fun and tricky character with his a unique Ruby system. This character uses the ballon a lot, allowing him to be longer in the air than peach.)

Pikachu (nothing special, but her voiceactor is really cute, I have to admit)
Purin (I'm not sure how she is called in english, I mean this floaty ballon pokemon which is way better than in Brawl. Sakurai decided to make the Down B stronger again)
Lucario (with the inclusion of Mewtwo, Sakurai wanted us to change his neutral B. I hope you guys will like the new move.)
Mewtwo (he was one of the last characters we had to do. His change are mostly like in Melee, and his ultrasmash is a strong psych move. He said making it a transformation would be too predictable and steal the uniquness from Bowser and Wario)
Poketrainer (despite making some tweeks to the movesets, the only true change is that the stamina system was removed. Sakurai felt it may be too restricting for people who want to master one certain Pokemon)
Pichu (he was easy to implement, as we based most of its moveset on Pikachu. Sakurai said Pichu would only take a minimal ammount of time to make and it would make some people happy to see this one again)

DonkeyKong (he is super strong now)
Diddey + Dixie (we changed his banana move with some new feature called partner swap. Here you can switch between Diddey or Dixie , kinda similar to the Poketrainer. Sakurai also mentioned that he wanted to include Dixie in Brawl already, but due to time problems caused by the Sonic debacle, she wasn't included)
KingKRool (Sakurai took this character from the popularity votes. I was very suprised he was so highly wanted, as most of us thought he was already forgotten)

Yoshi (When I asked Sakurai why he didn't reveil Yoshi yet, he laughed about how the other dragon keeps him hostage until this other dragon is shown. Most of his moves weren't changed a bit)
Magic Koopa (Another nice character with a unique theme. He is a summoner, similar to King Dedede, but mostly relies on his magic and teleportationskills instead of physical combat. Sakurai says he want to make an Event Match similar to the ending of Yoshi's Island with him).

Wario (his sidesmash can now be charged up, kinda like Ike's side special attack.)

Samus (she is powered up, visual wise.)
Without Suit Samus (it's easier now to lose the suit. You only need to downtaunt normaly. And she resemebles more the Samus from Other M)
Ridley (He was a big problem to implement at first. A really huge one. And Sakurai said he won't show Yoshi to the public until Ridley is 100% finished.)

Pit (I guess I don't need to say much to Pit, except that the new final smash isn't final yet.)
Paluntena (She has Pit's old ultrasmash, and she has very weird set of moves. Totally Sakuraistyle. But she is so awesome, I can't wait for the fanpics of her to come out.)

Fox (Not much has changed, but he got slightly buffed in his speed.)
Falco (no longer has a Landmaster, as Sakurai always said he personaly prefers the air, so we gave him an Airwing. He also uses a rocket launcher as a side B, Sakurai wanted to make Falco more ranged oriented while Fox should stay a Melee fighter.)
Wolf (We are still thinking what kind of FinalSmash to give him. For the rest, many moves have changed to make him more different from Falco and Fox)

Kirby (Sakurai talked about giving him an instantwin Combo, but laughed after that. His Stoneform does more damage now and comes way quicker on the ground. And we still haven't done any of his hats)
Metaknight (Sakurai said that people claimed he was way too powerful in Brawl. Yet we left his moveset without changes, since Sakurai liked the idea of having an overpowered monster character)
King Dedede (Everytime when Sakurai plays with him in his testmatches, he laughs as he hears his own voice the whole time. Dedede's Chargehammer was improved, making it a shieldbreaking move.)

Olimar (We decided to reduce his Pikmincount to 3, and to alter some of his moves. His recoverymove includes the Air-Pikmins, for example)

CaptainFalcon (FalconPunch now breaks shields on hit, and his knee hit is a bit easier to hit again)

Marth (Not much to say. Broken as always, and Sakurai gave him more buffs since he often loses with him against other developers)
Roy (People complained about his abscence in Brawl, so Sakurai included him and made him a mix of Marth and Ike, at least speedwise. He has some changes to his original moveset, which are still tweeked, though.
Ike (The hardhitter remained mostly the same. He is a very beginnerfriendly character and should stay like that.)
Tharja (This one was suggested from Intelligent Systems™ as it was their favourite character of their newest game in the series. As we already have 3 swordfighters, we welcomed a female Blackmage. But she is also using a sword for some moves, to make her kinda like a female Ganondorf, with more focus on magic.)

Ness (Sakurai mentioned a glitch from Melee, which we had to purposely reimplement for the tournament gamers. He wasn't changed much, except for his standart-B which is now a move Ness can use in his original games)
Lucas (his recoverymove was changed to make him less similar to Ness, as well as his Ultrasmash, which is now PK Love.)
Man with Mask (Sakurai wanted one villian from the Mother series to include since he loves Mother 3 so much, Porky and Mask with Mask were on the list. Including Porky was a bit troublesome, as he was way too big in his robot and there isn't enough space on the disk for two "too big" characters, he decided to include Man with Mask. He is still in development with his moveset.
Important is, he said nobody expects a third Mother character, that's the mainreason why he wants to include one.)

Game&Watch (he has his old Neutral Air move from Melee, his Recovery now gives him twice as much height as in Brawl, but without the gliding cape he had.)

Robot (Sakurai wasn't sure at first to include him again, as many people disliked his addition in Brawl. But then we suggested a Robot model with Ridley parts, in order to make people like him now. His laser has one additional "charge", which is even stronger than the best charge in Brawl.)

IceClimbers (we had some problems with Nana Ai on the 3DS at first, as in 4player matches with 4 IceClimbers it was kinda... I don't want to get reminded how much work it was to get it done. But now it works, so don't worry.)

Little Mac (Sakurai wanted another Retrocharacter, and made another decision between Takumaru and Little Mac. Sakurai reminded himself, saying I need characters who bring something unique to the roster, and as we already had many swordusers, we decided to use Little Mac. He is a very fast combo character with nearly no knockback on his non-smash moves)

Takumaru (one weak later, when we nearly finished Little Mac, Sakurai nearly destroyed our door after he asked how far we are with Takumaru.
When we told him that we decided to include Little Mac, Sakurai made the scariest laugh of his life, and dragged one of my team members to his office. My teammember was seen around 5 weeks later, when we finished Little Mac AND Takumaru's movesets and character model. That was really scary.)

Wii Fit Trainer (I cried when I read that name for the first time. But Sakurai's laugh was too serious for a normal joke attempt. Overall, she is pretty balanced.)

Villager (Sakurai said he wanted another character which could break all fake rosters pre-E3. Since he feared that people might guess Miss Fit, he remembered saying that Villager wouldn't fit for a SmashBros game. He changed his mind and gave him one of the most creative movesets I ever saw.
Villagers Ultrasmash was inspired by a Movie with Nicolas Cage, I guess you all know what I mean.)


Sonic (he is a very fast character, hehe)
Shadow (we were contacted by SEGA officer shortly after SmashBros for Wii U was announced. They said they want to see another Sonic character added, to show their good relationship to Nintendo. Sakurai and SEGA officer then went gambling in a pachinko casino. If Sakurai wins he will add Shadow, if he loses (aka has lost more money than SEGA officer) he will add Tails. What I have learnt from this: NEVER EVER GAMBLE WITH SAKURAI. EVERY TIME HE LAUGHS HE WILL STEAL YOUR LUCK.
Anyway, Shadow is way different from Sonic, with his teleporting moves and time slowing specials)
Megaman (if you could guess what his UltraSmash would be.. Hint: its from the Game MegaMan 3.)
Snake (I don't know what people are thinking when they say that Snake is removed. Sakurai spent so much time contacting his friend Kojima to get the rights again and to discuss changes to his moveset.)

So, we have 16 Newcomers overall, as well as 3 returning veterans from Melee, going up to 54 characters. I hope those are enough characters to keep you entertained for a long while.
Note: Sakurai is aware of the demand for Reggie, but everytime he receives an email which asks him to include Reggie, he laughs and delays SmashBros for a day. So please don't do it.


Finished or "sure to be made" Assisttrophys:

Marioseries:
Hammerbro (same as Brawl)
Lakitu (same as Brawl)
Daisy (she behaves like Waluigi from Brawl, Sakurai calls it "being enraged because another princess got in)
King Bomb Omb (throws some bomb ombs into the stage, which spawn in their activated state)
Proff E Gadd (not finished yet, but Sakurai rants about him using the pencil of koopa junior).
Birdo (shoots some eggs, can be attacked and is pretty weak)
BuuHuu (chases after one enemy, but only if that enemy doesn't look at him. The ghost instantly KO's him, but is only for around 12seconds on the field)

Zeldaseries:
Skullkid (drops something onto the stage. Something bigger than Ridley)
Happy Mask Salesman (not finished yet, he probably plays the Song of Healing, and Sakurai spoke about how he wanted Miyamoto to be in the game)
Vaati (he uses some WindMagic and shadow beams.)
Impa (fast agile character, similar to shiek)

Pokemon:
Giovanni (he either throws in one of three posible pokemon, but we aren't sure which ones yet)

Yoshi:
ShyGuy (this guy who wears a mask and attacks with a spear)

DK:
"Olaf" (that's how I call that character. It's the endboss of Tropical Freeze, whose name we didn't get to know yet)
Cranky Kong (he jumps around the field like Scrooge McDuck from the old NES game, while ranting like Resetti about how everything sucks nowadays)

StarFox:
Andross (same as in Brawl)
Crystal (we weren't sure if we should include her at all, since most of the people hate her. But then, since it's only an assist throphy, it should be fine. She attacks with her spear while riding on a dinosaur)
Slippy (spawns randomly 1 to 3 "gunlike weapons as the SuperScope or Lasergun" around him, similar to the Tingle from Brawl)

Pit:
Medusa (isn't finished yet, so I cant tell much)

Fire Emblem:
Lyndis (same as in Brawl)
Lucina (similar to Samurai Goroh)
Hector (not finished yet)

Kirby:
Knuckle Joe (same as in Brawl)
Marx (not finished yet)
Daroach (spawns many mices, kinda like King Dedede Ultrasmash)

Wario:
Kat&Anna (same as in Brawl)
Ashley (not finished yet, but I'm working on her currently. I wish Sakurai would have made her playable, she has so much potential. But I guess with the rise of female mages in the roster, she was one mage too much for him)
Captain Syrup (not finished, Sakurai thinks about her popping up in coin matches and stealing money)

Metroid Series:
Metroid (same as in Brawl)
"hunter" (one of the characters from Metroid Prime Hunters, I always forget the name)

Rest: (who are finished)
GrayFox (same as in Brawl)
Knuckles (throws some earth rocks at enemies)
Advance Wars (same as in Brawl)
Samurai Goroh (same as in Brawl)


As I said, the list isn't final yet, more are to be added. Sakurai will soon reveil another Assistthrophy on the page smashbros.com


I will talk more about SmashBros Wii U soon. Now I have to leave my office, as we are about to start with the productions of the reveil trailer for King K.Rool for February Direct.
"Pichu will be returning" and that's when I stopped reading. Pichu will not be returning to the SB franchise.
 

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I would LOVE for Masked Man to be in the game. But the way that leak was typed didn't seem like it could be legit at all. Just using terms like Scrooge McDuck makes it seem totally bogus.
 

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Really people, don't you know already that Sakurai murders anyone who tries to leak information :troll:.
 

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You guys do realize that Wegenbarth was just joking around, right? I mean, jeezus guys, he makes it so clear so many times in the leak.
 

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I don't believe this leak for the simple fact that he chose to arrange a roster of 45 by 15x3 rather than 9x5.

Who would do that? Cosmetically it doesn't make sense.
 

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You guys do realize that Wegenbarth was just joking around, right? I mean, jeezus guys, he makes it so clear so many times in the leak.
Of course. It's an obvious parody, but it doesn't make it any less true that he has way too much time on his hands.
 

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It was more or less in response to other people, but you're right though :p

Even then, reading all these fake leaks, it does kind of make you want to make your own little "leak", doesn't it?
 

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Of course. It's an obvious parody, but it doesn't make it any less true that he has way too much time on his hands.
I am a depressed Game Engineer Student with too much time, what else am I supposed to do instead of posting epic long fake leaks :3
 

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I found this on GameFAQs...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68140137

MysteriousMask said:
Alright, I can say that I know quite a bit about the upcoming game Super Smash Bros. for the Wii U/3DS. I won't say my position, or my history, all you need to know is what I have in store for you.

Let's start off with the name. Yes, the final name IS Super Smash Bros. for the Wii U and Super Smash Bros. for the 3DS, no matter how lackluster you think it is. The game, as previously stated, will be in between Melee & Brawl's speed. But, there's more to it.

Some stages that will end up in the game that haven't been shown off yet for the Wii U version are a Rainbow Road stage from Mario Kart, a stage based off Kirby's Epic Yarn (the name isn't final yet), the tower from Nintendo Land, Eternal Tower from Pokemon Rumble and the Glitz Pit from Paper Mario. The 3DS will boast stages like a Tetris stage, a Dillon's Rolling Western-themed desert plain, a Pushmo puzzle, a Canvas Curse-style course much like Mushroomy Kingdom in Brawl, and a Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon stage.

Time for Assist Trophies. Returning ATs include Waluigi, Lakitu, Excitebikes, Shadow the Hedgehog, Gray Fox, Saki, Barbara the Bat and Jeff, although this is not all. A few of the newest ATs are Magnus from Kid Icarus: Uprising, Tom Nook from Animal Crossing (his AT works similarly to Dr. Wright, except he walks around for a while collecting things from fighters as "tax", and then depending on how much he collected, the house will be a different size, shape and design, the lowest being a tent, all the way up to a mansion), Cranky Kong from Donkey Kong Country (He sits on his rocking chair and is basically the new Mr. Resetti, as he complains about how only graphics matter and looks back onto his barrel-throwing days. Contrary to popular belief, the team didn't know about Cranky in Tropical Freeze during development, so he doesn't use his cane to launch dentures or bounce around) and Proto Man from the Mega Man series (The infamous whistle plays over the music of the stage, he teleports in and begins to jump & shoot from his arm cannon, much like in Mega Man 3 for the NES).

Let's get to everybody's favorite part: Characters. Mostly all characters from Brawl are returning, although there is talk of Solid Snake possibly being removed due to issues between Nintendo and Konami, with MGS5 being exclusive to other consoles. Mewtwo will return from Melee, and has improved vastly, with his Final Smash involving his Mega Evolutions from the recent Pokemon X/Y games.

The boxing ring stage is indeed a Punch-Out!! stage, and Little Mac has been promoted from AT to playable character. Little Mac's unique ability is not only the fact that he fights clean (he only uses his fists, not including items), but he also collects stars. Each of his specials are affected by stars. The more stars he has, the more powerful his recovery, the Star Uppercut, is, and his other attacks are boosted in knockback as well. When you use the Star Uppercut, or his Side Special, the Star Charge, where he charges forward, like Bald Bull, and then punches with immense strength. His main way of collecting stars is by successfully hitting an opponent with his special attack, the Star Punch, or by collecting hits with his Down Special, the Counter-Block. The longer you wind the punch, the more stars you get, and for the counter, the stronger the attack lashed towards you, the more stars you get. You can only have 3 stars, but they greatly help Little Mac reach to the top.

The customizable Miis do make an appearance, but are only customizable through appearance, where, in both versions of the game, you can upload your Miis as skins for the avatar, with the default male & female Mii making up the default skin. They use items from Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, Find Mii, Warrior's Way and Nintendo Land to fight.

I don't want to reveal too much, so with that, I give you a good night.
 

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Customizable movesets are kind of questionable at best. Especially in a game where the point is to have a crossover between well known game universes, and not to be able to piece together some OC with your face on it.

Besides, Nintendo would have to preemptively take responsibility for every Hitler face that ends up in online matches. Even if Miis were just customizeable in appearance, which would be the "easy" way to handle them.
 

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Miis are totally useless if they only customizable by appearance. I thought Sakurai would flesh them out?

Maybe it's just the original poster wanted to stir up some delicious rage in GameFAQs under a new account.

Namely, me. It gets too boring around here.
 

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I wouldn't mind Mii's either way.

I would actually prefer they just rep the Mii series.

You make them have custom moves and you got the potential of balance issues like ****ing whoa.
 
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Customizable movesets are kind of questionable at best. Especially in a game where the point is to have a crossover between well known game universes, and not to be able to piece together some OC with your face on it.

Besides, Nintendo would have to preemptively take responsibility for every Hitler face that ends up in online matches. Even if Miis were just customizeable in appearance, which would be the "easy" way to handle them.

If Miis are in the game I would be absolutely shocked if Nintendo lets custom Mii faces appear online.
 

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I feel like the best bet as generic as it may be would be for the Miis to have standard default male and female faces and a moveset like the ''leak' states. Otherwise they can cause balance issues or can cause ''Obama vs Hitler!"
 

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I feel like the best bet as generic as it may be would be for the Miis to have standard default male and female faces and a moveset like the ''leak' states. Otherwise they can cause balance issues or can cause ''Obama vs Hitler!"

Yeah, I kind of made that leak, it's fake and I wanted to anger some GameFAQs members. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling around Christmas.
 

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I feel like the best bet as generic as it may be would be for the Miis to have standard default male and female faces and a moveset like the ''leak' states. Otherwise they can cause balance issues or can cause ''Obama vs Hitler!"
I feel like if Miis were in we'd be able to choose our own, at least for local play. Kinda like in MKWii.
 

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As horrid as most of these new leaks are, they really ought to be added to the OP. If we're now filtering what leaks to add to the OP based on how believable they seem, we could eventually skip over a legitimate one because a few vocal people don't like Pac-Man or someone.

Also, that one with Rosalina and Toon Zelda is a corrected version of one from earlier that previously featured Toon Link as a cut character (now it's cutting Lucas and Ike instead, whereas they were previously inclded IIRC; Wariofan made a mockup months ago). It's horse****.
 

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Hey, another fake leak. It's incredibly bad timing to make leaks right after a newcomer announcement, really makes you come off as a someone who wants to feed off the hype. I gotta say though, the majority of these ones are beginning to sound familiar, they're all playing so safe.

Oh, and jesus at him saying they haven't figured out whether Snake should be in the game or not yet. They've likely figured that out ages ago, as in by the start of the game's development, otherwise they're going to get another Sonic situation.
 

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Are people so desperate for Snake to removed?
"Although there is talk of Solid Snake possibly being removed"
"Returning ATs... Gray Fox"
LOL, Pack it Up
 

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Hey, another fake leak. It's incredibly bad timing to make leaks right after a newcomer announcement, really makes you come off as a someone who wants to feed off the hype. I gotta say though, the majority of these ones are beginning to sound familiar, they're all playing so safe.

Oh, and jesus at him saying they haven't figured out whether Snake should be in the game or not yet. They've likely figured that out ages ago, as in by the start of the game's development, otherwise they're going to get another Sonic situation.

Yeah, that entire thing was, once again, to anger some GameFAQs people. I did it, I'm MysteriousMask. I made it vanilla and flawed.
 

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Yeah, I kind of made that leak, it's fake and I wanted to anger some GameFAQs members. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling around Christmas.
Man, you can get those "Angry Gamefaqs" fuzzies year round. I know I do. It's fun, easy, and very profitable.

Also Little Mac is a lot better off as a new character than a good 80% of things people request between the weird parts of Smashboards, near all of Gamefaqs, and Miiverse. So I'm curious?
 

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Little Mac is such an obvious choice to enter the fray this time.

Which might be why I now doubt him. I mean look at every choice save Mega Man. All out of left field.

But of course each awesome choices.
 

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Man, you can get those "Angry Gamefaqs" fuzzies year round. I know I do. It's fun, easy, and very profitable.

Also Little Mac is a lot better off as a new character than a good 80% of things people request between the weird parts of Smashboards, near all of Gamefaqs, and Miiverse. So I'm curious?

I added him & Mii simply to reuse old leaks and anger them more, offering nothing new.

Also, it's killing me, where's your avi from?
 

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Man, I swear people who make these rumors make the most terrible character choices. I mean I guess they do it for believability or something? But wow. Nobody would buy into them for being rumors, having a bunch of stuff people don't want in your rumor only makes it worse.
Characters being terrible or not is all subjective. You may not like a character, but I'm sure each character has its own fans. And we've gotten characters that "no one" wants in previous Smash games (Roy and Mr. Game & Watch in Melee, R.O.B. in Brawl). We already have a character no one wanted (Wii Fit Trainer) confirmed and Rosalina made in it over Toad and Bowser Jr., which were considered the more wanted choices! It's pretty clear that Sakurai's perspective is different than our own and that the characters we want aren't necessarily the characters we get.

That's why these rosters have those oddball choices. A roster made up of fan favorites and predictable choices will cause people to cry foul much more quickly, since Sakurai would never be that predictable.

In all honesty, I think Wegenbarth's leak is the best yet. Not for its believability (54 seems like a pipe dream), but because it's absolutely hilarious. Seriously, go read it and tell me that the tone and writing for this post didn't make you laugh once.
 
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