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I think of it this way; the outlines are there to help you see where you and your opponents are. If it isn't something you can hit, and it isn't you, why make it stand out?
Even if we haven't, it wouldn't make any sense for that to happen with Assist Trophies. If the black lines are meant to distinguish fighters, giving them to NPCs like Assist Trophies would be counter productive.
I don't see why Pit's final smash wouldn't be turned into the sacred treasures, or the great sacred treasure.
No, but theres enough evidence that has been shown to not have the outlines. Here have a look.
The release date thing is the only one i recall him debunking, and wasn't it Nintendo that addressed it, not Sakurai? (I actually can't fully recall)
Another point; as we saw with the Wii U, trophies aren't like fighters. Palletes are off, and there's light shading, not HD shading. Most notable thing; assist trophy hair is never detailed like a fighters. Look at how detailed the leak's hair is.
Assist Trophies can harm and kill you. Since Assist Trophies occupy space fighters do, it makes sense to help distinguish them. Besides, the Palutena from the leak isn't that highly detailed anyway
True, but for a 3DS pic, it's exact to the other fighters.
Wouldn't that also be applicable to Stage Hazards? Who actually clash with the black lines, such as the Find Mii monster?
He did deconfirm it on his twitter, and i believe theres an interview that says it was proved false.
Awesome proof!Wouldn't that also be applicable to Stage Hazards? Who actually clash with the black lines, such as the Find Mii monster?
Check out Wii Fit Trainer's arm.
Granted, Palutena doesn't show that clash in the picture because she isn't overlapping with anybody, but there is plenty more pointing towards her inclusion as playable than as an Assist Trophy.
Not really, since stage hazards are fixed and appear consistently. Assist Trophies appear on all stages and have random placements. The two are not comparableWouldn't that also be applicable to Stage Hazards? Who actually clash with the black lines, such as the Find Mii monster?
Check out Wii Fit Trainer's arm.
Granted, Palutena doesn't show that clash in the picture because she isn't overlapping with anybody, but there is plenty more pointing towards her inclusion as playable than as an Assist Trophy.
They still harm you though, which is the same thing an AT does.
But the monster doesn't have a black outline.Wouldn't that also be applicable to Stage Hazards? Who actually clash with the black lines, such as the Find Mii monster?
Check out Wii Fit Trainer's arm.
Granted, Palutena doesn't show that clash in the picture because she isn't overlapping with anybody, but there is plenty more pointing towards her inclusion as playable than as an Assist Trophy.
No, it should be still be applicable. I'm not following your logic.
Exactly. Showing that things that harm you aren't outlined, like AT's and stage hazards.
Objection. The Gyoid that the Villager pulls out is also at any random time, and that doesnt have an outline either
That's not the point. The point made was that Assist Trophies would have an outline because it would make them stand out. However, the lack of black outline for the monster already makes it stand out.
That's because it's a weapon. Marth's Falchion and Rosalina's wand don't have outlines either.
That's why I excluded that actually, it's the only example he himself thrown out. Other then that there's no other leaks here that he's intentionally proven wrong.
No, as stated, it has to do with random placement and appearance
Being playable or not is irrelevant, plus you are creating a circular argument based on assumption. "Not playable = No outline = Not playable"
Objection, Luma is a character that also comes out at random times, and it doesnt have an outlineThat's because it's a weapon. Marth's Falchion and Rosalina's wand don't have outlines either.
So what are you doing? Making a claim that a character is an Assist Trophy with no basis to do so. We actually have substantial evidence that points towards a playable role.
You don't quite realize what you're saying, do you?
Being that Luma appears to be OHKO'ed, and that it's spawned, I'd say it's more along the lines of an AT or stage hazard; he/she's an obstacle, not something that's going to kill you. Plus, I doubt dealing damage to it will effect Rosalina's health, making it worthless to go after.Objection, Luma is a character that also comes out at random times, and it doesnt have an outline
Oh ho ho, how wrong you are. Watch the trailer again
I've seen the trailer many times, what are you talking about?
Technically, there is absolutely no basis to say she is playable besides the leak images, which may not be legit anyway and the interpretation is ambiguous. So don't act as if you have any substantial evidence at all. We haven't seen Assist Trophies in 3DS and don't know how they function. They could very well have an outline
My friend, the Luma is Olimar's Pikmin, or Popo's Nana. Its very deadly to have the Luma at Rosalinas side, and it provides great defense. Rosalina can fight a 2 front war. How many others can do so?
Ridley & Space Pirate, Rosalina & Luma type team
If that's your verdict, you need to go back and read pages of this discussion my friend.
I don't quite agree.
Wat....
Ridley and Space Pirate? What does that mean? Or rather, what does that have to do with this?
Is Dins Fire alive? Is the character called Zelda and Dins Fire. Nah, its not. Luma seems much more resourceful than Dins Fire.
Except for the fact Luma can be easily stopped.
Your perspective is already fallacious if you are relying on absolutes. There is certainly a basis that correlates to Palutena's chances as a playable character, just as there is a basis for almost every character that is speculated about.
Except for that fact that Dins Fire has no life value
Are you serious? Din's Fire is the most avoidable attack in the game and can be blocked. Luma is a separate disposable helper who can be controlled. Way more resourceful
