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Squeezing it all in: 40 characters is less than it seems.

bivunit94

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Falco deserves a spot more than Krystal does... Get rid of Ray Mk 1 and put Balloon Fighter. how about mach rider instead of sami?
 

Pieman0920

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Hmm.

Confirmed.

1. Mario
2. Bowser
3. Link
4. Zelda
5. Fox
6. Kirby
7. Metaknight
8. Samus
9. ZSS (Counting them as different for right now)
10. Donkey Kong
11. Yoshi
12. Wario
13. Pit
14. Pikachu
15. Snake

Returning
16. Luigi
17. Peach
18. Ice Climbers
19. Cap Falcon
20. Ness (Or possibly a Lucas, if rumors are true)
21. Ganondorf (You know, the non-clone thing)
22. Sheik. (I think that she’s still going to be there, Sakurai just updates transformations differently, as seen with ZSS)
23. Jigglyuff
24. Mewtwo
25. Mr. Game & Watch
26. Falco (Un-clonified)
27. Marth

Newcomers
28. Bowser Jr. (Sunshine stage, lots of exposure, unique.)
29. Paper Mario (Can have a completely new moveset, and help represent some of the things an original Mario can’t do anymore, since his moveset is all used up)
30. WW Link (It’s not the same as Link, but he’s in for the same reasons as Paper Mario. It also completes the big three of Nintendo’s alt forms.)
31. Lucario (Pokemon with the best chances right now)
32. Krystal (Female character with a original moveset gives her more priority than Wolf)
33. King Dedede (Like Metroid, the Kirby series gets a third fighter, and apparently the most requested one as well)
34. Ridley (You know he’s in)
35. Diddy Kong (Best DK representative by far)
36. Captain Olimar (Must have. Original, and a unrepresented franchise.)
37. Ike. (Forgot about him. Best chance of a new FE character, plus he could have a good moveset.)
38. Tom Nook. (Stage aside, I think he has the best shot. AC doesn’t have a stage, and a symbol for nothing. Plus, since the characters on that stage are randomly generated, he can just not show up if needed)
39 Sonic (Meh)
40 Megaman (Second most requested third party character…and I want him too. :O)

If you count the two transformations as one character, then I guess I’d add Midna and Isaac to the list. >_>

EDIT. Whoops, Ike.
 

the grim lizard

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Dude, if you're trying to put characters like Waluigi or 5 Fire Emblem characters in, then you will run into issues about trying to fit in all deserving characters.

IMHO, here's how many reps per franchise there should be (depending on how many characters total get in)...[Approx. percentage of total characters at left]

[14%] Mario (including Yoshi, not Geno): 5-7
[12%] Pokemon: 4-6
[10%] Zelda: 3-5
[8%] Metroid (counting Zamus as separate): 3-4
[8%] StarFox: 2-4
[6%] Donkey Kong: 2-3
[6%] Kirby: 3
[6%] Fire Emblem: 2-3
[4%] F-Zero: 1-2
[4%] Earthbound/Mother: 1-2

All below are solo-repped for their particular series...
[6%] New series: 3-4
[8%] Retro: 3-5
[8%] 3rd party: 2-4
 

Problem2

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Problem0
this challenge is already on four threads

but it's still fun

Mushroom Kingdom
1. Mario: confirmed
2. Luigi: is anyone doubting this? (vaccum for maybe one or two attacks and fs)
3. Bowser: confirmed
4. Peach: duh (also might have moves in Super princess)
5. Bowser JR.: he might be new and just a son but he is now main villains in two mario games also he's like in every sport game now
6. Paper mario: first of all 6 mario characters in a 40 character list is not too much because this series is nintendo's great mascot. secondly, paper mario might be another mario but he can still be very original with his special techniques, friends, and pixels

Hyrule
7. Link: confirmed
8. Zelda: confirmed
9. Ganandorf(sword or no sword): seriously do i need to argue
10. CS Link: i'll give him 50/50 if he's in not a clone
11. Midna (most probable is on wolf link form): she's new and in one game but is the main character in TP which is the game LOZ is looking toward

Pokemon
12. Pikachu: confirmed
13. Jigglypuff: second most popular in japan and been in since 64
14. Mewtwo: only "villainous" Pokemon just make him a bit better
15. Lucario: popular is the way to get in smash if your a pokemon. he has it

Kongo Jungle
16. Dk: confirmed
17. Diddy: is tied for second in sakurai's poll, extremely popular, second most important kong
18. King K Rool: Sakurai said he wanted more villains so here you go

Starfox
19. Fox: confirmed
20. Krystal: Sakurai also wants more females. also popular
21. Wolf: same as K rool

Dreamland
22. Kirby: confirmed
23. Meta: Confirmed
24. Dedede: is a villain, #1 in sakurai's poll, sakurai's creation

Fire Emblem
25. Ike: new Fe hero and in upcoming game
26. Marth: first FE hero

Metroid
27. Samus/Zamus: confirmed (believe zamus can be used for holding a)
28. Ridley: tied for #2 in poll, is samus's nemesis, popular, do i need more reasons?

Single Representatives
29. Yoshi: confirmed
30. Wario: confirmed
31. Pit: confirmed
32. Falcon: semi confirmed and in original
33. Ness/Lucas: one form is certain only reasoning for Lucas is that he was supposed to be in melee to replace ness
34. Olimar: represents a budding new series in nintendo, can be very unique,
35. Mii: is representative of nintendo's new goal to casual audience
36. Mr. Resetti: i give him a plausible chance but i'm sticking with an AC representative for now, only char not in the stage
37. Retro character: sakurai wants to tie old with new, great way to make people surprised, characters possible are little mac, baloon fighter, and ROB

3rd party
38. Snake: confirmed
39. Sonic: seems reasonable and was nintendo's rival
40. Mega man: also a classic and is nintendoey enough

i however sadly see less then 40 characters
so my cut list goes in this order
1. Mr. Resetti
2. Mii
3. Paper mario
4. Cs link
5. King K rool :cry:

(35 is bare minimum)
My favorite list by far. I think I like it more than my own. :laugh: Ummm... the only thing I would change is cut out the Miis and add in Ray_01 from the Custom Robo series and I'd be 50/50 between WWLink and Falco.
 

Ferro De Lupe

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this challenge is already on four threads

but it's still fun

Mushroom Kingdom
1. Mario: confirmed
2. Luigi: is anyone doubting this? (vaccum for maybe one or two attacks and fs)
3. Bowser: confirmed
4. Peach: duh (also might have moves in Super princess)
5. Bowser JR.: he might be new and just a son but he is now main villains in two mario games also he's like in every sport game now
6. Paper mario: first of all 6 mario characters in a 40 character list is not too much because this series is nintendo's great mascot. secondly, paper mario might be another mario but he can still be very original with his special techniques, friends, and pixels

Hyrule
7. Link: confirmed
8. Zelda: confirmed
9. Ganandorf(sword or no sword): seriously do i need to argue
10. CS Link: i'll give him 50/50 if he's in not a clone
11. Midna (most probable is on wolf link form): she's new and in one game but is the main character in TP which is the game LOZ is looking toward

Pokemon
12. Pikachu: confirmed
13. Jigglypuff: second most popular in japan and been in since 64
14. Mewtwo: only "villainous" Pokemon just make him a bit better
15. Lucario: popular is the way to get in smash if your a pokemon. he has it

Kongo Jungle
16. Dk: confirmed
17. Diddy: is tied for second in sakurai's poll, extremely popular, second most important kong
18. King K Rool: Sakurai said he wanted more villains so here you go

Starfox
19. Fox: confirmed
20. Krystal: Sakurai also wants more females. also popular
21. Wolf: same as K rool

Dreamland
22. Kirby: confirmed
23. Meta: Confirmed
24. Dedede: is a villain, #1 in sakurai's poll, sakurai's creation

Fire Emblem
25. Ike: new Fe hero and in upcoming game
26. Marth: first FE hero

Metroid
27. Samus/Zamus: confirmed (believe zamus can be used for holding a)
28. Ridley: tied for #2 in poll, is samus's nemesis, popular, do i need more reasons?

Single Representatives
29. Yoshi: confirmed
30. Wario: confirmed
31. Pit: confirmed
32. Falcon: semi confirmed and in original
33. Ness/Lucas: one form is certain only reasoning for Lucas is that he was supposed to be in melee to replace ness
34. Olimar: represents a budding new series in nintendo, can be very unique,
35. Mii: is representative of nintendo's new goal to casual audience
36. Mr. Resetti: i give him a plausible chance but i'm sticking with an AC representative for now, only char not in the stage
37. Retro character: sakurai wants to tie old with new, great way to make people surprised, characters possible are little mac, baloon fighter, and ROB

3rd party
38. Snake: confirmed
39. Sonic: seems reasonable and was nintendo's rival
40. Mega man: also a classic and is nintendoey enough

i however sadly see less then 40 characters
so my cut list goes in this order
1. Mr. Resetti
2. Mii
3. Paper mario
4. Cs link
5. King K rool :cry:

(35 is bare minimum)

Definately the best list I've seen in a while. Honestly, the only thing I would do would be to replace CS Link with Falco. I just see no reason to not include Falco. Even though I don't like him, he is a popular character and, as Fox's sidekick, it makes sense for him to be there.
 

Sariku

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Sariku.Uchiha's List

Yes, the great Sariku.Uchiha makes an appearance on this thread, it has just been blest. All of you now have the skill of Ken, Isia, and Chudat combined. So go, be cocky, for you are the best of the best, all of you are.

But Either or, here is my list for your thread. Hopefully you guys like it, as it is the best one by far, though I won't give reasons for them, most likely. If they are in bold, they are confirmed. Note that I cut them down to get the most new comers, I have absolutly no clones will be in mine, atleast not by intention.

-Mario Series -
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Baby Bowser

- Zelda Series -
6. Link
7. Zelda
8. Ganondorf

- Kirby Series -
9. Kirby
10. Meta Knight
11. King DeDeDe

- Pokemon Series -
12. Pikachu
13. Jigglypuff
14. MewTwo
15. Lucario

- Star Fox Series -
16. Fox McCloud
17. Krystal
18. Wolf O'Donnel

- Metroid Series -
19. Samus/Zamus
20. Ridley

- Yoshi Series -
21. Yoshi

- Donkey Kong Series -
22. Donkey Kong
23. Diddy Kong

- Fire Emblem Series -
24. Marth
25. Ike

- Kid Iracus Series -
26. Pit
27. Eggplant Wizard

- Wario Series -
28. Wario

- Pikmin Series -
29. Captian Olimar

- Ice Climber Series -
30. Ice Climbers

- F-Zero Series -
31. Captian Falcon

- EarthBound Series -
32. Ness
33. Lucas

- Golden Sun -
34. Issac

- Chibi Robo -
35. Chibi Robo

- 3rd Party Characters -
36. Solid Snake
37. Sonic the Hedgehog
38. Rayman

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I'll leave the last three for Sakurai to surprise us, but now I give you reasons why I choose who over who, why, and so on. They will be listed in order below.

5. Baby Bowser - Also known as Bowser Jr. or Koopa Kid, Baby Bowser would be a great addition to Brawl. He appears in many Mario games, and while most of them are all sports and party games, he also had major roles in Super Mario Sunshine and New Super Mario Bros. He could use his paint brush, but no shadow Mario transformation please.

14. Mewtwo - I don't like the idea of Mewtwo being a playable character, but I truthfully can't think of better pokemon with accual chances. Only Lucario, no Blaziken.

17./18. Krystal and Wolf O'Donnel - I choose Wolf and Krystal cause they are fan favorites, plus have resonable chances. But I didn't say Falco. Now I DO think that Falco will appear in Brawl, I just dont' want him in, I see Wolf and Krystal more, or atleast Wolf.

27. Eggplant Wizard - Matt C. From IGN Had an interview with Miyamotto a year back. Matt mentioned Pit in Brawl, and it got to Eggplant Wizard. Matt asked if the Eggplant Wizard will make an appearence somewhere, and Miyamotto asked him if he would buy the game if they made it. He said yes, and Miyamotto stated "Well we can't overlook that, the Eggplant Wizard will be returning."

33. Lucas - He was supposed to orriginally been in 64 and Melee, but wasn't, so I see him here somehow.

34. Isaac - He is from the forgotton Golden Sun Series, and is the main character. Yes, he's a sword wielder, but also a Earth User, so you can see some earth type moves coming from him.

35. Now for Rayman, yes, over MegaMan. MegaMan hasn't yet to have a game on the Wii, and very few if any on DS. While Rayman has appeared many of times, and Ubisoft is one of Nintendo's top 3rd Party Devolpers, so I see no reason for Rayman not to be over Megaman. Forget you guys crying about Megaman gone, it's about money, and Rayman would make more.

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That's it for me, hope you guys like the list, and please start commenting on this. I worked on this for an hour...
 

DonkeySmasher

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first of all bowser jr. koopa kid and baby bowser are completely different people

secondly eggplant wizard can be returning as an assist so he's plausible at most IMO

Finally pretty good list throughout but only three for LOZ and two for earthbound seems very unlikely
 

masterluigi1

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-Mario Series -
1 mario
2 luigi
3 peach
4 bowser
5 bowser jr
6 Geno

- Pokemon Series -

7 Pikachu
8 Lukario
9 Jigglypuff
10 Mew2
11 Blaziken

- Zelda Series -

12 Link
13 Zelda
14 Ganondorf

- Metroid Series -
15 Samus/Zero suit
16 Ridley

- Donkey Kong Series -
17 DK
18 Diddy Kong
19 K Rool


- Star Fox Series -
20 Fox
21 Falco
22 Krystal
23 Wolf

- Kirby Series -
24 Kirby
25 Metaknight
26 Dedede

- Yoshi Series -
27 Yoshi

- Fire Emblem Series -
28 LYN
29 Marth
30 Ike

- Kid Icarus Series -
31 Pit

- Wario Series -
32 Wario

- F-Zero Series -
33 C falcon

- EarthBound Series -
34 Ness
35 Poo

- 3rd Party Characters -
36 SORA
37 Sonic
38 Megaman
 

Chickenboy666

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well, I made my list:

Super Mario Bros.
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. [this space is reserved for another possible character like Bowser Jr or Paper Mario]

The Legend of Zelda
6. Link
7. Zelda
8. Ganondorf

Kirby Series
9. Kirby
10. Meta Knight
11. King Dedede

Pokemon
12. Pikachu
13. Jigglypuff
14. Mewtwo
15. Lucario

Star Fox
16. Fox
17. Falco
18. Wolf O'Donnel OR Krystal

Metroid Series
19. Samus/Zero Suit Samus
20. Ridley

Yoshi Series
21. Yoshi

Donkey Kong Series
22. Donkey Kong
23. Diddy Kong

Fire Emblem Series
24. Marth
25. Ike

Retro
26. Pit
27. Ice Climbers
28. Mr Game & Watch

Wario Series
29. Wario

F-Zero
30. Captian Falcon

Mother/Earthbound Series
31. Ness OR Lucas

Other Series
32. Issac (Golden sun)
33. Demille (Tomato Adventure)
34. Ray (Custom Robo)

3rd Party
35. Snake
36. Sonic
37. Megaman
 

GaryCXJk

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In my opinion, 40 characters is more than people can actually handle. I'm not even playing all 40 regularly, maybe just for fun.

Jump only has about 40 characters, but if you have played the game, you would say it is quite a lot. Of course, there are also a lot of support characters (assist komas, as you can call it), but counting in all komas would count up to 180, which is too much a mind can handle.
 

ClarkJables

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i dunno, there are games out there with a hell of a lot more then 40 characters that do just fine. i would like to see 42-45 characters personally
 
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