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[ThePsychoWolf]

Ganondorf and Charizard are SO much better than they were in Brawl. Low tier or no, I destroy all with them.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Mewtwo needs to stay low tier. Let people think he's weak, I mean, then only the true fans can unlock his true potential.



Why do I keep thinking that Nintendo is going to troll us and skip this month? -.-

I got this ****.


Nintendo is going to give us the direct on April 1st

 

[kantoskies]

There might not even be a direct, they might pull a Lucina/Robin trailer and just release it independently (I think they also did that with trailers for some of the Mario Kart 8 DLC tracks)

 

[C3CC]

What?! No!! What are people here talking about?! Not low tier again! I want Mewtwo to be top OR at least high up there with Yoshi, Rosalina, Zero Suit Samus and Sonic!

 

[ThePsychoWolf]

God, Yoshi's annoying. I hate even seeing that little **** sometimes.

 

[ZephyrZ]

What?! No!! What are people here talking about?! Not low tier again! I want Mewtwo to be top OR at least high up there with Yoshi, Rosalina, Zero Suit Samus and Sonic!

Hey, I'd be fine with that to.

But nothing beats the sheer joy of beating the heck out of a Diddy Kong with one of the worst characters in the game.

Of course, I hardly ever join any form of tourny, so I guess tiers don't matter to me much either.

 

[Superior Spider-Mew]

God, Yoshi's annoying. I hate even seeing that little **** sometimes.

Is it the eggs?

 

[Metros]

What?! No!! What are people here talking about?! Not low tier again! I want Mewtwo to be top OR at least high up there with Yoshi, Rosalina, Zero Suit Samus and Sonic!

I want him to be top but honestly, I'd prefer mid.

The only problem I'd have with him being top is that everybody would probably spam him just because he's top. They wouldn't main him because they love him or he's their favourite character but more so just to win. That's the way it goes here, everybody only plays either Marth, Fox or Falco and it's rare to see low tiers played. I'm well aware that Mewtwo is bad and low tier but that's what makes him unique. I feel like that will be lost if he's top tier then suddenly everybody's using him because they only want to win. Mewtwo is an amazing character even if he's low tier. People don't bother with him so they don't know his tricks.

I'd like it to be that way again. I hope he's better of course, but I'd be okay if he isn't top.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I want him to be top but honestly, I'd prefer mid.

The only problem I'd have with him being top is that everybody would probably spam him just because he's top. They wouldn't main him because they love him or he's their favourite character but more so just to win. That's the way it goes here, everybody only plays either Marth, Fox or Falco and it's rare to see low tiers played. I'm well aware that Mewtwo is bad and low tier but that's what makes him unique. I feel like that will be lost if he's top tier then suddenly everybody's using him because they only want to win. Mewtwo is an amazing character even if he's low tier. People don't bother with him so they don't know his tricks.

I'd like it to be that way again. I hope he's better of course, but I'd be okay if he isn't top.

This.
Keep him bad, Sakurai. Or at least, in the competitive player's eyes.

 

[Jaguar360]

God, Yoshi's annoying. I hate even seeing that little **** sometimes.

:'(

 

[Xzsmmc]

Personally, I'm hoping he's good. Not great, but good. Around the same level as Brawl Wario.

 

[ORVO5]

I want him to be top but honestly, I'd prefer mid.

The only problem I'd have with him being top is that everybody would probably spam him just because he's top. They wouldn't main him because they love him or he's their favourite character but more so just to win. That's the way it goes here, everybody only plays either Marth, Fox or Falco and it's rare to see low tiers played. I'm well aware that Mewtwo is bad and low tier but that's what makes him unique. I feel like that will be lost if he's top tier then suddenly everybody's using him because they only want to win. Mewtwo is an amazing character even if he's low tier. People don't bother with him so they don't know his tricks.

I'd like it to be that way again. I hope he's better of course, but I'd be okay if he isn't top.

Yeah, agreed. Top tier would mean he would be overused in tourneys and basically everywhere competitive (like the Little Macs online.) I'm hoping his new moveset is as complicated as Shulk's or Robin's and that he's mid tier as well.

I don't want to sound elitist or a character hog but I'd like for Mewtwo to belong to the true Mewtwo community (us here on the boards and other Mewtwo enthusiasts instead of players who choose the most useful for winning.)

 

[ThePsychoWolf]

Is it the eggs?

He just seems really cheap. There are jokes that all you have to do to win with Yoshi is slam your face into the controller.
Course, what do I know? I'm not a competitive player.

 

[Smashbro596]

Yeah, agreed. Top tier would mean he would be overused in tourneys and basically everywhere competitive (like the Little Macs online.) I'm hoping his new moveset is as complicated as Shulk's or Robin's and that he's mid tier as well.

pshh so im the only one who wants him brawl meta-knight?
remember an entire type of pokemon was invented because of mewtwo and its type!
being stupidly overpowered is in-character. >w<

 

[Metros]

I don't want to sound elitist or a character hog but I'd like for Mewtwo to belong to the true Mewtwo community (us here on the boards and other Mewtwo enthusiasts instead of players who choose the most useful for winning.)

I couldn't agree more with this.

 

[Deathlightning21]

I'm going to bring up super cool here, you guys are going to love it.

are you ready for it?

its coming by reaaalll soon?

you sure you want it?

okay then!

*AHEM*

Tier Lists...shouldn't matter when you like a character. we good? kay

 

[Superior Spider-Mew]

He just seems really cheap. There are jokes that all you have to do to win with Yoshi is slam your face into the controller.
Course, what do I know? I'm not a competitive player.

Yoshi is one of my mains and I can tell you this, there's a huge curve between experienced Yoshi players and not so experienced players. I've had people lose to me, then use Yoshi to show me that he's "easy to use" but when that happens I tend to have no problem beating them. Its the same scenario with Duck Hunt, people think anyone can be good with him and then when they try to prove it only in results they lose badly

 

[ThePsychoWolf]

Yoshi is one of my mains and I can tell you this, there's a huge curve between experienced Yoshi players and not so experienced players. I've had people lose to me, then use Yoshi to show me that he's "easy to use" but when that happens I tend to have no problem beating them. Its the same scenario with Duck Hunt, people think anyone can be good with him and then when they try to prove it only in results they lose badly

Again, not a competitive player. All I know is I hate seeing his face in the challenger's panel, cause I know he's just going to spam eggs/dair all match. It is satisfying to utterly destroy Yoshi, though.

 

[ORVO5]

pshh so im the only one who wants him brawl meta-knight?
remember an entire type of pokemon was invented because of mewtwo and its type!
being stupidly overpowered is in-character. >w<

Valid argument but still sticking to my second paragraph. Or they could make him ridiculously powerful that he's banned from tournaments lol (mostly joking.)

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Whether or not Mewtwo's high or low tier, I pray to Arceus they don't change his up or back throw...

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Whether or not Mewtwo's high or low tier, I pray to Arceus they don't change his up or back throw...

I hope those stay as well they are perfect.

 

[godogod]

Would be nice if he was mid to upper, but with a high learning curve like Ness. This will help deter the band wagoners.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I couldn't agree more with this.

^-^

 

[cstonic]

To be honest, I want Mewtwo to be good. I really really do.
BUT

I want him to have a high learning curve (like Shulk and Megaman)
So kinda like Sheik.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

By the way going to mention this.

Some people have theories on why mewtwo is taking so long/hard to believe 1 character will take this long.

My theory is his/her specials may get the same treatment as palutena and miis. (completely different specials not alternate versions of them)

 

[kantoskies]

They did have to make him from scratch (since they couldn't import his Melee data) and he was apparently too much trouble to put in Brawl (yeah they were busy with SSE but why cut Mewtwo over another veteran?) so 5-6 months doesn't seem too long. Part of me is hoping there's a stage or two included with him but that's kind of a long shot.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

I personally don't give a single **** whether Mewtwo is Top tier or Bottom Tier.

Its FREAKING MEWTWO!

I wanna BE him XD

 

[DrRiceBoy]

By the way going to mention this.

Some people have theories on why mewtwo is taking so long/hard to believe 1 character will take this long.

My theory is his/her specials may get the same treatment as palutena and miis. (completely different specials not alternate versions of them)

Hmm. Even so, I don't really think creating a character and with different specials will take as long as 5 months. This theory is plausible, but I don't think it's only this. I'm sure there's also some extra content as well, such as stages and the like. Perhaps some balance updates? I'm really hoping for some more characters (although I can't see it happening).

EDIT: Oopsies. Forgot about the other things like the Miiverse Stage we were promised. My mistake, haha. I suppose 5-6 months isn't too Farfetch'd then. Not too sure about the extra content now, but I can still be hopeful.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Hmm. Even so, I don't really think creating a character and with different specials will take as long as 5 months. This theory is plausible, but I don't think it's only this. I'm sure there's also some extra content as well, such as stages and the like. Perhaps some balance updates? I'm really hoping for some more characters (although I can't see it happening).

Let's not for get the tournament mode, Miiverse Stage, and replay/image/custom stage sharing we were promised.

Between that and the apparently long and horrendous process known as "debugging", I'm not really expecting any surprise content. Just stuff that's already been announced.

Though a new stage or something would be nice.

 

[Superior Spider-Mew]

They did have to make him from scratch (since they couldn't import his Melee data) and he was apparently too much trouble to put in Brawl (yeah they were busy with SSE but why cut Mewtwo over another veteran?) so 5-6 months doesn't seem too long. Part of me is hoping there's a stage or two included with him but that's kind of a long shot.

^This
Only I think they've been working on Mewtwo, the miiverse stage, tournament mode online/offline, and the sharing system that the 3DS version has. They've probably been working on all these all at once, its possible that there might be a patch for balancing but I cant really say. If there happens to be a game breaking glitch with Mewtwo or some sort of thing that unbalances everything, theeen there might be another balance patch.

 

[Smashbro596]

I personally don't give a single **** whether Mewtwo is Top tier or Bottom Tier.

Its FREAKING MEWTWO!

I wanna BE him XD

i agree! apparently dk (donkey kong) is bottom tier. i still like him... oddly.

 

[DrRiceBoy]

i agree! apparently dk (donkey kong) is bottom tier. i still like him... oddly.

Fellow Mewtwo fan who also likes DK! DK is freakin' awesome.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

C'mon, Nintendo. Give us a direct this week, please....

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Among the few things I want Mewtwo too keep from Melee, this is one thing I want Mewtwo too keep in Smash 4:

lol
@ ミスティック Speed

 

[JimmyTheCaterpillar]

I really hope Mewtwo keeps his Melee sound effects. (like the echo jumping effect and the humming shadow ball) Those effects were one of my favorite things about Mewtwo's design.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Among the few things I want Mewtwo too keep from Melee, this is one thing I want Mewtwo too keep in Smash 4:

lol
@ ミスティック Speed

A competitive doubles team made up of Mewtwo and Pichu? They are my heroes!

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

I don't mind if Mewtwo gets some buffs, but even if he considered lower tier in Melee it's also up to the player if he can win or not. It didn't stop me from kicking the asses of some Falcos, Foxes, Cp. Falcon, etc. back in the day (though not enough to win me any tourneys, sadly).

Speaking of something else, I consider myself a respectful smash player to the point that I don't like shaming my opponent when they lose. Trash talk banter with close friends and siblings is ok though. However, what really pushes my buttons is when a random stranger on the internet tries to mirror match me to show off as being superior.

I fought this guy in For Glory last night, he was Fox and I was Mario. I lost the first match due to some stupid mistakes I made (recovering too low, using Up B in the wrong direction). On the next match, the little runt picked Mario as well even with the same color scheme as me, it was by chance that I decided to change the colors back to default. I took it as a personal matter because he was basically trying to tell me "now I'm going to show you how to play Mario". I bowed to not lose that match and managed to two stock him in the end without losing a life, in this kind of situation I'm going all out and you will see me taunt a lot to mock my opponent. I made use of everything in Mario's arsenal while the guy was just being a tryhard whose battle plan consisted simply of dashing towards me and trying to grab me. Because of that he didn't last long. In his last stock, I hit him with my Fsmash and did a side taunt; he wasn't going to make it back but just to add insult to the injury I went off stage and caped him, then went back and did an Up taunt. After that, I saved the replay and left the room to deny him any chance of revenge. I basically schooled him with my Mario in a "and that's how you play Mario" fashion.

Like I said, I'm not that kind of guy who likes to brag but there are people out who need to be taught some humility.

 

[ZephyrZ]

I took it as a personal matter because he was basically trying to tell me "now I'm going to show you how to play Mario".

I'm always shocked by how seriously people take these things.

When someone copies my character, I always assume they're just being goofy.
I mean, you can't always tell what people are really thinking on the other side of the connection, so it's safest not to take things to heart.

 

[Metros]

I don't mind if Mewtwo gets some buffs, but even if he considered lower tier in Melee it's also up to the player if he can win or not. It didn't stop me from kicking the ***** of some Falcos, Foxes, Cp. Falcon, etc. back in the day (though not enough to win me any tourneys, sadly).

Speaking of something else, I consider myself a respectful smash player to the point that I don't like shaming my opponent when they lose. Trash talk banter with close friends and siblings is ok though. However, what really pushes my buttons is when a random stranger on the internet tries to mirror match me to show off as being superior.

I fought this guy in For Glory last night, he was Fox and I was Mario. I lost the first match due to some stupid mistakes I made (recovering too low, using Up B in the wrong direction). On the next match, the little runt picked Mario as well even with the same color scheme as me, it was by chance that I decided to change the colors back to default. I took it as a personal matter because he was basically trying to tell me "now I'm going to show you how to play Mario". I bowed to not lose that match and managed to two stock him in the end without losing a life, in this kind of situation I'm going all out and you will see me taunt a lot to mock my opponent. I made use of everything in Mario's arsenal while the guy was just being a tryhard whose battle plan consisted simply of dashing towards me and trying to grab me. Because of that he didn't last long. In his last stock, I hit him with my Fsmash and did a side taunt; he wasn't going to make it back but just to add insult to the injury I went off stage and caped him, then went back and did an Up taunt. After that, I saved the replay and left the room to deny him any chance of revenge. I basically schooled him with my Mario in a "and that's how you play Mario" fashion.

Like I said, I'm not that kind of guy who likes to brag but there are people out who need to be taught some humility.

Ugh, I hate people like that. I've had my share of trash talkers and obnoxious idiots that think they're the best at the game.

Though, I do remember one tournament, I was up against this guy that decided to go Sheik. I'd never played him before so I didn't know what to expect, and I used to get terrible nerves during tournament sets. I did some friendlies against him but SD'ed like 3 times due to my damn nerves. Then I lost against him in the actual tournament because the game was set at 50Hz and not 60Hz on this particular TV. If i'm doing my usual thing I need it to be at 60Hz. I know this doesn't really bother most people, but I always feel a bit of a difference in L-cancelling/WDing with my characters if the game isn't at 60Hz. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it's also kinda like me needing the rumble feature on to play. If I sit and play and those two aren't right, then my play-style is usually off. I guess it's force of habit.

And of course, for Mewtwo to have any chance of winning you need to be fast and precise!

Anyway, I lost that match simply to the timing for my movements being off due to the Hz rate. I knew instantly when I played it was off. The guy won, I was knocked out and pretty much made an idiot of myself and left feeling like absolute s**t because the guy must have thought I was a joke, which I know I'm not (it also didn't help that back then I was literally the only girl that played in our scene). This was confirmed about a month or so later when I played him in friendlies at a game club night I go to every week. He won the first two, as I got nervous again and was more so stuffing around. But what he didn't know was that I'd MADE sure the game was on 60Hz this time before I started playing, and he hadn't arrived before that. I picked Fox and of course, with my luck it went to Yoshi's and he went Marth. Annnnd of course, I nearly got four stocked, which did nothing in my favour of not looking like a complete idiot to this guy. By then he was smirking. So, he tried to troll me by going G&W. I knew he was doing it on purpose but that really pissed me off needless to say. I'd had enough. So, I went Marth and ended up winning the next three matches with two stocks to spare against his Dr Mario and Marth. Then he got serious, and went his main - which is of course, Sheik. I went Mewtwo, and I said something along the lines of 'Let's try this again!' not in a rude way or anything, but of all the nerve he goes 'Are you serious?! We'll be here for another 5 hours' (Referring back to the tournament match). At that point I was done. I murdered his Sheik with my Mewtwo, put down the controller and turned and said to him,'Well, that wasn't 5 hours was it?'

I've never felt so justified after a match.

The best satisfaction I get though is if I beat a top player and they can't handle losing to a girl so they rage-quit. That's happened twice so far. XD Some of them can be very egotistical so it makes it better.

 

[Superior Spider-Mew]

So whats the first thing you guys are going to do once you start up Smash 4 after downloading Mewtwo? For me I'm more than likely going to go into training mode and check out his moveset, analyze it etc. Afterwards I'm probably going to do Classic Mode and All-Star mode, get those trophies. I think after all that, I should have a general feeling of how the character works then join the Mewtwo army to invade for glory lol