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[ミスティック Speed]

I may as well.
What type ruleset do you prefer? Competitive or no-restrictions friendlies?

I can play both scenarios. What interests you more?

 

[ZephyrZ]

I can play both scenarios. What interests you more?

Same.
Though if I have to choose, I generally go with competitive.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Same.
Though if I have to choose, I generally go with competitive.

Add me, my ID is on the left. :3

 

[ZephyrZ]

Add me, my ID is on the left. :3

I think I already added you the other day.

You get to open the room, in case someone else wants to join. I don't have a whole bunch of friends.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Hey! Look what I found! It's a new leak/rumor that sort of piggybacks on the Ryu/Roy rumor! Basically, if you don't feel like reading the entire article, which is admittedly pretty long, the two big takeaways are:

-There's 5 unoccupied character slots in Smash 4's code. That means that, in addition to Lucas and possibly Roy and Ryu, we can potentially get two other DLC characters.

-There are 7 unused stage slots, and one of them is probably going to be a Kirby stage of some sort, because a lot of Kirby tracks were found in the game's code, as well.

If I'm not mistaken, the Roy and Ryu rumor has some pretty solid ground to stand on, since at least 5 other unique claims have been made since the initial one. Also, Roy makes sense to me, personally. I mean, he's a clone of Marth, so he wouldn't take too much time to develop, and I believe he has the strongest following of the remaining Melee vets, as well as one of the strongest followings of any cut veteran.
Ryu is a little out there, especially since Capcom already has a rep, but he seems like a reasonable addition. Licensing won't be as difficult, since Nintendo is already working with Ryu's owner, and it could be pretty interesting to see how a traditional fighter would transition into a game like Smash. Now, granted, I don't play any other fighting games (Pokkén Tournament will change that), so I know next to nothing about Ryu, but I'm still intrigued by how he would work in SSB4.
Also, Wolf is pretty much a shoo-in at this point, so, assuming Roy and Ryu are actually coming, that leaves one other DLC character, at least at this point. Obviously, if this leak turns out to be true, then that last character slot would go to the DLC Ballot winner. I think that it all lines up pretty nicely, and I'm inclined to believe that all of this is true, but I think that I'm going to keep sitting on the fence until more evidence surfaces, be it for or against the leak.

Objection.

"Unoccupied slots" is an issue the Project M team has to work around. Not the Smash 4 team. Was there an "unoccupied slot" before Mewtwo was announced?

 

[meleebrawler]

Mewtwo was never a clone.
Ganondorf, though I feel he's unjustified, is a semi-clone, isn't he? More different from Falcon then Roy was from Marth, at least.

Perhaps Roy could have better frame data than most swordsmen to compensate not spacing properly?

One thing's for sure: if Ryu gets in the game, Dr. Mario players will like him.

 

[MagiusNecros]

The five unused slots are for one character. Ridley. Obviously. Not Ridley is a stage hazard while Real Ridley is playable.

Hardy har har

 

[pikazz]

Hey! Look what I found! It's a new leak/rumor that sort of piggybacks on the Ryu/Roy rumor! Basically, if you don't feel like reading the entire article, which is admittedly pretty long, the two big takeaways are:

-There's 5 unoccupied character slots in Smash 4's code. That means that, in addition to Lucas and possibly Roy and Ryu, we can potentially get two other DLC characters.

-There are 7 unused stage slots, and one of them is probably going to be a Kirby stage of some sort, because a lot of Kirby tracks were found in the game's code, as well.

If I'm not mistaken, the Roy and Ryu rumor has some pretty solid ground to stand on, since at least 5 other unique claims have been made since the initial one. Also, Roy makes sense to me, personally. I mean, he's a clone of Marth, so he wouldn't take too much time to develop, and I believe he has the strongest following of the remaining Melee vets, as well as one of the strongest followings of any cut veteran.
Ryu is a little out there, especially since Capcom already has a rep, but he seems like a reasonable addition. Licensing won't be as difficult, since Nintendo is already working with Ryu's owner, and it could be pretty interesting to see how a traditional fighter would transition into a game like Smash. Now, granted, I don't play any other fighting games (Pokkén Tournament will change that), so I know next to nothing about Ryu, but I'm still intrigued by how he would work in SSB4.
Also, Wolf is pretty much a shoo-in at this point, so, assuming Roy and Ryu are actually coming, that leaves one other DLC character, at least at this point. Obviously, if this leak turns out to be true, then that last character slot would go to the DLC Ballot winner. I think that it all lines up pretty nicely, and I'm inclined to believe that all of this is true, but I think that I'm going to keep sitting on the fence until more evidence surfaces, be it for or against the leak.

after hacking brawl in over 6 years, I can guarantee that this is pretty much legit unless they really know how brawl did orginize their files!
but I do find it lazy that the "slots/victory" theme are the same as brawl, that means the 7 forbidden is still in smash4 but might never see the light.

but I do love that 5 unused mario slot is Roy, Ryu, Lucas and 2 more <3 and more stages >w< I do hope that dreamland 64 gets to Wii U aswell

edit, just noticed that the bold is removed, so the forbidden 7 (excluding Mewtwo, Dr Mario and Roy) are gone!

 

[U-Throw]

Objection.

"Unoccupied slots" is an issue the Project M team has to work around. Not the Smash 4 team. Was there an "unoccupied slot" before Mewtwo was announced?

By "unoccupied slot", I mean that a character slot was created by the Smash 4 devs, and then they left it buried within the game's code for future use.

 

[ZephyrZ]

@Speed

Sorry for leaving so soon. Stuff happened.
Good games, though. I mostly just got destroyed, but gg.

I also forgot to save all of the replays, besides the first and the last. If you saved them, I'd appreciate it if you sent them to me.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

@Speed

Sorry for leaving so soon. Stuff happened.
Good games, though. I mostly just got destroyed, but gg.

I also forgot to save all of the replays, besides the first and the last. If you saved them, I'd appreciate it if you sent them to me.

Uh...I forgot to as well....
GGs though! lol Your Charizard got me that first match...

 

[JesseMcCloud]

If we get any sword user that isn't Isaac/Matthew, I will flip out.
...Unless it's a third party character, like Sora (unlikely), Cloud (VERY unlikely), or Crono (probably least likely.)

 

[ミスティック Speed]

If we get any sword user that isn't Isaac/Matthew, I will flip out.
...Unless it's a third party character, like Sora (unlikely), Cloud (VERY unlikely), or Crono (probably least likely.)

While I do love Sora and Final Fantasy characters...they don't belong in Smash.
Also, come on...Roy would be cool!

 

[JesseMcCloud]

While I do love Sora and Final Fantasy characters...they don't belong in Smash.
Also, come on...Roy would be cool!

Roy will only be cool if they do the following:
-Use the new-style Roy as done by Kakusei:

Spoiler

-A fully revamped moveset. Not Melee Roy, not some Luigi-fied Marth variant, but a BRAND. NEW. MOVESET.
-The Sword of Seals even gave Roy a ranged attack in FE6.

If they could do these things, I would be pleased. I might even make room for him as co-main.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

While I do love Sora and Final Fantasy characters...they don't belong in Smash.
Also, come on...Roy would be cool!

No.......he really wouldn't. The only Roy we need is.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Roy will only be cool if they do the following:
-Use the new-style Roy as done by Kakusei:

Spoiler

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-A fully revamped moveset. Not Melee Roy, not some Luigi-fied Marth variant, but a BRAND. NEW. MOVESET.
-The Sword of Seals even gave Roy a ranged attack in FE6.

If they could do these things, I would be pleased. I might even make room for him as co-main.

Yeah, if he had his Awakening garb, it would be more than epic.

No.......he really wouldn't. The only Roy we need is.

...
No.

 

[Saikyoshi]

By "unoccupied slot", I mean that a character slot was created by the Smash 4 devs, and then they left it buried within the game's code for future use.

I know what you meant, and I'm saying that's no obstacle.

It's not like the P:M team, where they can't edit the game's core files. Unlike them, Nintendo can and does add more "slots" when they need them.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

...
No.

We have enough sword users, let alone Fire Emblem characters, let alone carbon-copy Marth clones. Seriously, if we're going to have another FE character, why not one that uses more magic or transformation-type stuff, or even fighting with a lance...not all FE characters use swords

 

[ZephyrZ]

We have enough sword users, let alone Fire Emblem characters, let alone carbon-copy Marth clones. Seriously, if we're going to have another FE character, why not one that uses more magic or transformation-type stuff, or even fighting with a lance...not all FE characters use swords

Not all FE characters use swords, but most FE Main Protagonist do. Though I do think Ike should have an Axe implemented into his moveset, and maybe Lucina with a lance at a later date.

I think the main reason we're getting Roy is simply because he's a veteran; and I believe that's a very good reason to add him.
I'm actually a personal believer that all veterans should come back, just because of their fans. I think we as Mewtwo mains should especially be able to sympathize with this.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Dunno why Hector isn't a thing yet. Best lord.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Dunno why Hector isn't a thing yet. Best lord.

#BiasedNotReallyBiasedOkayVeryBiased

 

[BugCatcherWill]

Not all FE characters use swords, but most FE Main Protagonist do. Though I do think Ike should have an Axe implemented into his moveset, and maybe Lucina with a lance at a later date.

I think the main reason we're getting Roy is simply because he's a veteran; and I believe that's a very good reason to add him.
I'm actually a personal believer that all veterans should come back, just because of their fans. I think we as Mewtwo mains should especially be able to sympathize with this.

Yeah, but of all the veterans cut, why should Roy be added? Of all the characters cut (Wolf, Ice Climber(s), Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake), Roy seems like the worst option. Star Fox U is supposed going to be released soon, so why not him? Why this one character who was awful in his own game that wasn't even in English?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Yeah, but of all the veterans cut, why should Roy be added? Of all the characters cut (Wolf, Ice Climber(s), Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake), Roy seems like the worst option. Star Fox U is supposed going to be released soon, so why not him? Why this one character who was awful in his own game that wasn't even in English?

 

[DrRiceBoy]

I want a Manakete if we're getting any newcomer FE characters. 0% chance of it happening to be honest but Manaketes are the best class. If Manaketes get in at all, even if there's an incredibly unlikely chance, it would be Tiki or Kamui. Compared to other Manakete characters, which has a 0.0001% chance of getting in, I'd say Kamui has a 1% and Tiki has a 0.1%. Not bad choices because I like both, but even so, I like and want Nah more. Any Manakete would be cool in Smash really, especially Nah. I like Nah a lot. If you say nah to Nah then I will eat you.

As for lords, I think Lyn, Ephraim, or Eirika would be nice.

I don't mind more FE characters but the chances are extremely slim. There's already so many and I just don't see it happening. I want it but it just doesn't seem possible. However, Roy actually looks slightly possible this time around. I can actually see that guy getting in. Don't really care if he gets in or not; I like Marth and Lucy more anyway.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

Pichu is in the games, though. He's just evolved. That's why he has the goggles in Brawl and not the party hat.

 

[MagiusNecros]

#BiasedNotReallyBiasedOkayVeryBiased

Dunno what you are talking about.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

:v

Just give me Ryu, pls. Complete with 3S Donkey Kick.

Smooth Criminal

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

Hey! Look what I found! It's a new leak/rumor that sort of piggybacks on the Ryu/Roy rumor! Basically, if you don't feel like reading the entire article, which is admittedly pretty long, the two big takeaways are:

-There's 5 unoccupied character slots in Smash 4's code. That means that, in addition to Lucas and possibly Roy and Ryu, we can potentially get two other DLC characters.

-There are 7 unused stage slots, and one of them is probably going to be a Kirby stage of some sort, because a lot of Kirby tracks were found in the game's code, as well.

If I'm not mistaken, the Roy and Ryu rumor has some pretty solid ground to stand on, since at least 5 other unique claims have been made since the initial one. Also, Roy makes sense to me, personally. I mean, he's a clone of Marth, so he wouldn't take too much time to develop, and I believe he has the strongest following of the remaining Melee vets, as well as one of the strongest followings of any cut veteran.
Ryu is a little out there, especially since Capcom already has a rep, but he seems like a reasonable addition. Licensing won't be as difficult, since Nintendo is already working with Ryu's owner, and it could be pretty interesting to see how a traditional fighter would transition into a game like Smash. Now, granted, I don't play any other fighting games (Pokkén Tournament will change that), so I know next to nothing about Ryu, but I'm still intrigued by how he would work in SSB4.
Also, Wolf is pretty much a shoo-in at this point, so, assuming Roy and Ryu are actually coming, that leaves one other DLC character, at least at this point. Obviously, if this leak turns out to be true, then that last character slot would go to the DLC Ballot winner. I think that it all lines up pretty nicely, and I'm inclined to believe that all of this is true, but I think that I'm going to keep sitting on the fence until more evidence surfaces, be it for or against the leak.

i'd say this for specials

B: Hadouken
Side B: Tatsumaki Senpukyaku
Up B: Shoryuken
Down B: Diarrhea Joke Foot
Final Smash: Shinkuu Hadouken

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Pichu is in the games, though. He's just evolved. That's why he has the goggles in Brawl and not the party hat.

No, Pikachu stole Pichu's goggles. Pikachu is not the same Pichu from Melee.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

Dear Arceus, all of the debate about Mewtwo's viability on this thread is making me really anxious to try him out. Unfortunantly, it's still probably going to be a while ~_~. Anyway, I'm kind of sad to hear that Mewtwo's @ U-Throw apparently got nerfed. That sucks. It's not gonna stop me from using it to land some kills, though. I gotta live up to my name, y'know?
Also, how does getting hit out of Teleport work? Is it, like, you can get hit out of it at any point during the move, or can you only get hit out of it at specific times, or what? I'm genuinely curious.

I have no idea how teleport works but i've been hit during it at the weirdest times. It's quite strange

 

[MagiusNecros]

It seems Mewtwo is vulnerable when the purple warp thing reappears. He can also be smacked before he warps in that state as well.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

when little mac tries an aerial KO Punch as a last ditch effort but the windboxes just end up sucking you close enough so that DAir spikes

just call me Mr. Feelgood

 

[BugCatcherWill]

No, Pikachu stole Pichu's goggles. Pikachu is not the same Pichu from Melee.

Has Nintendo confirmed or denied either side of the argument?

 

[SleuthMechanism]

@the mention of putting in hector instead of roy: i.. actually have no problem with this. Would be kind of cool to have a hot-blooded axe wielder whom has attacks that all make a satisfying "THWACK!" when they hit.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Tip of the day. Reverse Warlock Punch can kill Mewtwo anywhere on a Omega stage when he is at 25% damage or higher. Absolutely disgusting. Good thing you can grab or disable him before that happens. Or lob a Shadow Ball at him.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

to be fair, you're really asking for it if you let a ganon actually pull of a reverse warlock punch. what i fid grosser is that kirby can live way longer than mewtwo.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

Tip of the day. Reverse Warlock Punch can kill Mewtwo anywhere on a Omega stage when he is at 25% damage or higher. Absolutely disgusting. Good thing you can grab or disable him before that happens. Or lob a Shadow Ball at him.

I'm pretty that works for everybody bar Shield Monado Shulk

 

[MagiusNecros]

I'm pretty that works for everybody bar Shield Monado Shulk

Bowser can survive anything at 25%. Pretty much anyway.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

Kinda off topic, but how much more awesome would this game be if you could enable motion blur.
Mewtwo's tail would be all COOL!!

 

[ThePsychoWolf]

I have never understood all the b****ing about Roy. If he's coming, he's coming, and there's nothing you can do about it. Don't want him? Don't buy him. I myself will greatly enjoy having Mewtwo/Roy/Dr. Mario fights on Temple for old times sake.

Just be glad that Fire Emblem is getting what it's getting. It's one of Nintendo's best and oldest franchises, and nearly died before Awakening saved it. Roy is not being brought back to rep FE6, he's being brought back for the fans, much like Mewtwo and Lucas were.