[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

[NomadLuminary]

Oh. Well if that was the case...

1, Joker
2. Erdrick
3. Isaac (a man can dream can't he?)
4. Elma
5. Geno

I'd go:

1. Joker
2. Erdrick
3. Adol Christin
4. Alis Landale
5. Lloyd Irving

 

[Idon]

Oh my god, someone that also wants the being that makes gods his *****

GAEA RAGE

Yeah it would be so sick. If you wander feel free to lend your support in the SMT support thread!

 

[Untouch]

Cuphead came out in late 2017, likely way before DLC was decided on.
I've read that Microsoft didn't expect huge sales, so I doubt they would have pushed for the character in Smash before the game was out.

As much as I'd like this DLC set, there's no reason to believe it. Anyone can fake something like this.

 

[Icewolff92]

There's also the JSON leak. Luckily for us if its anyone other than Crono, they get thrown in the trash.

JSON leak? What have I missed?

 

[Deleted member]

JSON leak? What have I missed?

An earlier "leak" last month about supposed info being extracted from the Smash website, it also had Crono in addition to Agumon, Banjo and Reimu.

 

[Icewolff92]

An earlier "leak" last month about supposed info being extracted from the Smash website, it also had Crono in addition to Agumon, Banjo and Reimu.

Reimu Hakurei? Agumon? The two meme characters of 4 chan... Yeah, hard sell on that one. Especially Reimu.

 

[Teeb147]

Is this an info drought?

I do feel like we've talked about everything. I hadn't stuck around for the smash 4 dlc speculation so it's interesting in a way, but I also feel like we're so close. In two weeks at least, things will probably be rolling. There should be some announcements about persona after the next anime ep airs, and/or at the end of the month there's Sega fes that might have something. Whether there's a smash direct or not sometime we should also be getting info on 3.0 and joker and there's some good chances of other info with that, including the next dlc. or at least we'll have some new hints because of everything.

 

[dezeray112]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUA2Ax7SSigThoughts on this?

Pretty much anyone who has Photoshop skills could easily create this as well as the incorrect spelling on "Crono".

This is why I am certain it is most likely to be fake.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Straying away from FF gags, here's the compilation of all the 11 DQ epics in Symphonic Suites all in one single video ordered chronogically.
Any fan of classical music should listen to this. It's great to imagine the adventure, to work, study and other stuff.

* Obviously for S-E it would be too much, but I really wish music from these NHK recordings would end up in Smash if Erdrick is DLC *

 

[Teeb147]

Straying away from FF gags, here's the compilation of all the 11 DQ epics in Symphonic Suites all in one single video ordered chronogically.
Any fan of classical music should listen to this. It's great to imagine the adventure, to work, study and other stuff.

* Obviously for S-E it would be too much, but I really wish music from these NHK recordings would end up in Smash if Erdrick is DLC *

Holy moley that's over 11 hours long :O
very nice. If there's videos like that for other series', like FF, i wanna check them out.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Holy moley that's over 11 hours long :O
very nice. If there's videos like that for other series', like FF, i wanna check them out.

Ohohooo boy.... There sure are. I'll post them here once I finish this one (gonna be working for quite a while.. XP)
And yes, 11 hours of epicness. That's part of the fun! :D

 

[Deleted member]

* Obviously for S-E it would be too much, but I really wish music from these NHK recordings would end up in Smash if Erdrick is DLC *

With how we're getting the orchestral soundtracks for DQ 11 Switch, it's not impossible. The orchestra arrangements are great.

 

[MajoraMan28]

With how we're getting the orchestral soundtracks for DQ 11 Switch, it's not impossible. The orchestra arrangements are great.

It is, because S-E's DLC practices hinge on that possibility.
DQXI is coming with orchestral tracks either because S-E decided to help out Sugiyama with the royalties needed to be payed to NHK or Nintendo did it themselves. This being the case for Smash would need Enix to push for it in the first place, and then either S-E or Nintendo actively helping out with the NHK costs. S-E is very close-fisted with its DLC content, so I wouldn't bet on them trying to push for explosively great content. Or... maybe S-E is in the process of opening up little by little. We've seen Ultimate their first big step in that regard (the first non-SE game to feature SE content in the base game without any extra cost to earn direct revenue on their characters and content).

Also, keep in mind that DQXI S only has field and battle themes that are orchestrated. We could very well still deal with MIDI tracks in other areas, like Casino, cutscenes and towns, which would suck, but at least they managed to pay the royalties for part of the soundtrack.

 

[perfectchaos83]

So now this is 2chan? Not 5ch?
Is there anything new in there or is that the same posts as before?

To put it simply, 2chan/2ch became 5ch. It's the same thing and a lot of people will call it 2ch out of habit.

 

[A.G.L.]

Saw this mod for Master Chief in Jump Force. And with all the talks of Nintendo and Microsoft partnering up. How great would it be if Master Chief was in Smash Ultimate and had a move set like this! Plus we get see Master Chief vs. Samus.

 

[Deleted member]

Saw this mod for Master Chief in Jump Force. And with all the talks of Nintendo and Xbox partnering up. How great would it be if Master Chief was in Smash Ultimate and had a move set like this! Plus we get see Master Chief vs. Samus.

Yeah Master Chief would be great. We really don't have many character like him in tone or combat style so he would be one of the most unique newcomers to show up. I wouldn't be upset if we got him over Banjo.

E: Never forget how Halo is also just a really cool franchise so of course it can be in Smash.

E2: Also for a second, just from glancing at the thumbnail, I thought Master Chief was actually in Jump Force, like how Negan from the Walking Dead is in Tekken.

 

[ZelDan]

Master Chief would be one of the most hype inclusions for me in Smash as far as not assist trophied characters go. That or Sans.

I'd love it for both all the enjoyment I've had with halo games over the years + how greatly the internet would implode were it to happen.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah Master Chief would be great. We really don't have many character like him in tone or combat style so he would be one of the most unique newcomers to show up. I wouldn't be upset if we got him over Banjo.

E: Never forget how Halo is also just a really cool franchise so of course it can be in Smash.

E2: Also for a second, just from glancing at the thumbnail, I thought Master Chief was actually in Jump Force, like how Negan from the Walking Dead is in Tekken.

I mean, Doomslayer is the only other similar option for a Marine-like character. That is, that isn't a generic Halo Marine(or Arbiter), but more of an established character instead of simply a race/class. Not that race/classes are a bad thing(Villager, Pokemon Trainer, to name the very few among Smash).

 

[BZL8]

Master Chief would be hype, that's for sure. It will be the clear sign that the floodgates for characters have opened (if they aren't already). Inb4 someone claims Goku can now join.

In regards to Square-Enix characters, if 2B happens to be revealed, I'll lol as the internet implodes over a character/series that has never appeared on Nintendo consoles getting in. The very thought of this is absolutely bonkers. Actually, any Yoko Taro character getting in will definitely make the internet go nuts.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean, Doomslayer is the only other similar option for a Marine-like character. That is, that isn't a generic Halo Marine(or Arbiter), but more of an established character instead of simply a race/class. Not that race/classes are a bad thing(Villager, Pokemon Trainer, to name the very few among Smash).

I thought MC was an original character.

 

[Ornl]

Sega has three non-Echo Fighters in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies; Sonic was created by Sonic Team, Bayonetta was created by Platinum Games, and Joker was created by Atlus.

Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep.

Is it possible Square-Enix also has 3 different companies representations ?
Cloud was created by Square (likethe top 2 Geno, the top 3 Sora, and the top 4 Crono). In my opinion, Square characters form a single group, in the shadow of Cloud. Erdrick was created by Enix, Dragon Quest arriving unhindered in the light. Also, Space Invaders / Bub & Bob were created by Taito. Lara Croft was created by Core Design...
Square-Enix, it's Square + Enix + the rest. Not Square + Square. Would it not be possible to think about other companies ?

 

[Ovaltine]

Sega has three non-Echo Fighter in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies; Sonic was created by Sonic Team, Bayonetta was created by Platinum Games, and Joker was created by Atlus.

Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep.

Is it possible Square-Enix also has 3 different companies representations ?
Cloud was created by Square (likethe top 2 Geno, the top 3 Sora, and the top 4 Crono). In my opinion, Square characters form a single group, in the shadow of Cloud. Erdrick was created by Enix, Dragon Quest arriving unhindered in the light. Also, Space Invaders / Bub & Bob were created by Taito. Lara Croft was created by Core Design...
Square-Enix, it's Square + Enix + the rest. Not Square + Square. Would it not be possible to think about other companies ?

I, uh... I don't know what you're saying. Are you saying multiple Square reps from different companies within the Square umbrella? That'd be neat, but I don't see it happening. At most, we might get one Square-made rep (G- Geno... please...) and one Enix-made rep (Erdrick), and even that's a huge stretch. Coinciding with that, I doubt we'd get two from the same company umbrella for one season of DLC, unless Square was being extra demanding for more monetary gain due to Cloud's inclusion in the base game. Even that is iffy. After all, Square loves money, but they are also very stingy with their properties.

I dunno. I couldn't see Bub & Bob happening (sadly), same with Lara Croft. It'd likely just be Square and Enix, if that.

 

[Ornl]

I couldn't see Bub & Bob happening (sadly), same with Lara Croft. It'd likely just be Square and Enix, if that.

I agree, in my opinion. And about Space Invaders ?
[√] "Who never saw it coming forward, new to the series, just like Joker from Persona 5 : it's emblematic of the approach that Mr. Sakurai and the team are taking with the DLC." - Reggie
[√] "He wants characters that are unique, different, to bring them into the Smash Bros environment. Ultimate would bring just a whole different level of fun and enjoyment for the player. That's been the approach. That's the thinking". - Reggie
[√] License born in Japan with at least 1 opus on Nintendo.
[x] Promotional side.

 

[Ovaltine]

I agree, in my opinion. And about Space Invaders ?
[√] "Who never saw it coming forward, new to the series, just like Joker from Persona 5 : it's emblematic of the approach that Mr. Sakurai and the team are taking with the DLC." - Reggie
[√] "He wants characters that are unique, different, to bring them into the Smash Bros environment. Ultimate would bring just a whole different level of fun and enjoyment for the player. That's been the approach. That's the thinking". - Reggie
[√] License born in Japan with at least 1 opus on Nintendo.
[x] Promotional side.

Sorry, but I still can't say I see that as very likely. If Space Invaders were to get anything, I'm sure it'd be an assist trophy. The way Space Invaders game play works makes it have the same caveats as Galaga. Boss Galaga is an item. It just feels indicative to me of Space Invaders, if ever used in Smash, would be an item, an assist trophy, or at the very most, a stage. A Space Invaders rep just doesn't sound like it would work in any sense.

 

[Deleted member]

Sega has three non-Echo Fighters in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies; Sonic was created by Sonic Team, Bayonetta was created by Platinum Games, and Joker was created by Atlus.

Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep.

Is it possible Square-Enix also has 3 different companies representations ?
Cloud was created by Square (likethe top 2 Geno, the top 3 Sora, and the top 4 Crono). In my opinion, Square characters form a single group, in the shadow of Cloud. Erdrick was created by Enix, Dragon Quest arriving unhindered in the light. Also, Space Invaders / Bub & Bob were created by Taito. Lara Croft was created by Core Design...
Square-Enix, it's Square + Enix + the rest. Not Square + Square. Would it not be possible to think about other companies ?

Easy counterpoint Ryu and Megaman are pretty much pure Capcom owned and created, same with Snake and Simon for Konami. Mate, patterns are made to be broken.

 

[Ovaltine]

Easy counterpoint Ryu and Megaman are pretty much pure Capcom owned and created, same with Snake and Simon for Konami. Mate, patterns are made to be broken.

On top of that, we also have Richter, who is pure Konami and Simon's echo fighter. Same thing with Ken. The pattern here is pretty nonexistent, and whatever patterns do exist can be broken. Sakurai can do just whatever the heck he wants (within reason).

 

[Ornl]

Easy counterpoint Ryu and Megaman are pretty much pure Capcom owned and created, same with Snake and Simon for Konami. Mate, patterns are made to be broken.

Not "easy counterpoint". Konami and Capcom aren't multiple companies like Sega, Bandai-Namco and Square-Enix. So the Konami and Capcom Fighters aren't valid counterexamples.
Sega has three non-Echo Fighters in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies (2).
Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep (2).
Is it possible Square-Enix also has strictly different companies representations ?

 

[NomadLuminary]

Sega has three non-Echo Fighters in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies; Sonic was created by Sonic Team, Bayonetta was created by Platinum Games, and Joker was created by Atlus.

Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep.

Is it possible Square-Enix also has 3 different companies representations ?
Cloud was created by Square (likethe top 2 Geno, the top 3 Sora, and the top 4 Crono). In my opinion, Square characters form a single group, in the shadow of Cloud. Erdrick was created by Enix, Dragon Quest arriving unhindered in the light. Also, Space Invaders / Bub & Bob were created by Taito. Lara Croft was created by Core Design...
Square-Enix, it's Square + Enix + the rest. Not Square + Square. Would it not be possible to think about other companies ?

Just gonna mention this quote because of an idea I had. Sora and Crono still have a chance if they are in another dlc pass because they represent the Square Enix merger whether in a literal or metaphorical way in Cronos case.

Edit: Just a fun idea

 

[MajoraMan28]

https://nintendoeverything.com/octo...million-copies-new-console-game-in-the-works/
https://nintendoeverything.com/new-octopath-traveler-project-announced-for-ios-and-android/
Octopath prequel coming to Mobile
New game in the works for console.
Let me tell ya fellas. This is YUUUUGGE
YUUGGE

 

[Ovaltine]

Not "easy counterpoint". Konami and Capcom aren't multiple companies like Sega, Bandai-Namco and Square-Enix. So the Konami and Capcom Fighters aren't valid counterexamples.
Sega has three non-Echo Fighters in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies (2).
Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep (2).
Is it possible Square-Enix also has strictly different companies representations ?

... The heck are you on about? Capcom has Platinum Games, Inti Creates, Comcept, etc. as subsidiaries. That argument is invalid.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Not "easy counterpoint". Konami and Capcom aren't multiple companies like Sega, Bandai-Namco and Square-Enix. So the Konami and Capcom Fighters aren't valid counterexamples.
Sega has three non-Echo Fighters in Ultimate, and all of them was created by different companies (2).
Bandai-Namco hasn't 2sd Namco rep (2).
Is it possible Square-Enix also has strictly different companies representations ?

Konami consists of multiple companies. There's Hudson (responsible for Bomberman) and Bemani (who makes DDR). If your pattern actually held up, Bomberman would be in, not Castlevania.

Capcom is also technically comprised of multiple companies, as Capcom USA is a separate entity (somewhat, but they do own the IP of Street Fighter and other franchises instead of Capcom Japan).

Also, can you actually name a Bandai rep to go with Namco's Pac-Man? Because nearly all of their games pre-merger were licensed.

... The heck are you on about? Capcom has Platinum Games, Inti Creates, Comcept, etc. as subsidiaries. That argument is invalid.

Err, I don't think any of those companies are Capcom subsidiaries.

 

[osby]

Konami consists of multiple companies. There's Hudson (responsible for Bomberman) and Bemani (who makes DDR). If your pattern actually held up, Bomberman would be in, not Castlevania.

Capcom is also technically comprised of multiple companies, as Capcom USA is a separate entity (somewhat, but they do own the IP of Street Fighter and other franchises instead of Capcom Japan).

You also leave out the fact that Bayonetta and Joker are both Atlus games. Yes, the dev teams are not the same, but that means that Geno, Sora, and Crono are also safe, since the devs, while in house, are different divisions.

Err, I don't think any of those companies are Capcom subsidiaries.

Bayonetta is made by Platinum Games, not ATLUS.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Bayonetta is made by Platinum Games, not ATLUS.

Edit: oh wait it wasn't. Nevermind, I'll edit my post. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Ovaltine]

Err, I don't think any of those companies are Capcom subsidiaries.

Oh heck, I was looking on the wrong section of the wiki page for Capcom when I cited that. Disregard then.

 

[AugustusB]

https://nintendoeverything.com/octo...million-copies-new-console-game-in-the-works/
https://nintendoeverything.com/new-octopath-traveler-project-announced-for-ios-and-android/
Octopath prequel coming to Mobile
New game in the works for console.
Let me tell ya fellas. This is YUUUUGGE
YUUGGE

Hrmmm...that is something.

 

[Teeb147]

New Octopath, that's a nice surprise.
8 characters in a party? that's more than Suikoden :O
I dont like the possibility of it only being on mobile tho. I hope it comes to switch at least.

 

[NomadLuminary]

New Octopath, that's a nice surprise.
8 characters in a party? that's more than Suikoden :O
I dont like the possibility of it only being on mobile tho. I hope it comes to switch at least.

I wish Suikoden had a chance in smash but the chances of that is non-existant

 

[Teeb147]

I wish Suikoden had a chance in smash but the chances of that is non-existant

It was an amazing series. I wouldn't say non-existant, but yeah it's not too likely

 

[MajoraMan28]

Here is a small featurette of the making of one of, if not THE, most iconic final boss theme of all time!
It's not a new video, but it's always fun to see Uematsu talk about his masterful work. Hopefully he recovers from his illness.

 

[NomadLuminary]

It was an amazing series. I wouldn't say non-existant, but yeah it's not too likely

Suikoden 2 is my favorite older JRPG so any representation of that would be greatly appreciated. Dragon Quest 11, Suikoden 2, Metal Gear Solid, Devil May Cry 3 and Deus Ex are the pinnacle for me.