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[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

Who do you think is the most likely possible Square-Enix Newcomer? (Two Choices possibles)


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MajoraMan28

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ResetERA isn't filled with doxxers, and if it is they're quickly banned. When I searched online for instances of the forum doxxing people, all I got were untrustworthy articles by One Angry Gamer and something called lulz.com about the forum supposedly going after Cyberpunk 2077 devs (neither site is reputable for their neutral news coverage). Someone DID post a publicly available LinkedIn page of the Twitter account's manager, but it was quickly removed for violating ERA's terms of service. This is because ResetERA has moderators, and strict ones too.

Again, the attitude surrounding ResetERA may be extreme and intolerant to you, and I'm not saying that forum is a bastion of goodness (looking at my original post, I never claimed that, no idea why you're lecturing me on my ResetERA is Bad Actually), but 4chan's crimes are worse as a whole.

I also find it amusing and cute that you think I'm the one with "pure innocence" while you unironically claim 4chan discriminates against "the active call to violence towards a person or people" when that's the number one thing /pol/ is known for these days.

Look, I don't wanna drag this out. I go to this thread to see people talking Square Enix characters in Smash, I just wanted to say that as mean and dismissive of PolarPanda ResetERA was, it does not make it "worse" than 4chan. Maybe the latter is safer to leak things in, which is why so many leaks come from there, but eh.
I don't want to name people, but I know a good number of people leaving due to PMs and unwarranted hate directed at people that diverge from their hivemind. If you think like them, you won't feel any effect whatsoever of repression, but it's undeniable that ResetERA is a place defined by thought-policing.

I never said that 4chan is a place full of rainbows. I'm saying that thinking that 4chan is worse because of political bias is innocent. If you haven't noticed, and this isn't coming just from me here, but most people go to 4chan for ****posting. They think it's funny to be edgy and talk crap. It's infantile, sure, but at least I for one wouldn't feel that I would be judged 24/7, being persecuted by the thought police like they are some sort of SS, if I post something there about some topic that I think is relevant.

There might be a post or two showing up in that vibe, but it doesn't take long before something like this gets taken down. Unless to you "violence" is calling people mean names and saying stuff you disagree with. Again, most people there who post edgy stuff are edgy people thinking they are funny and ****posts 24/7. But there isn't any sort of elite that represses people for what they think, even if it's controversial. Being able to differentiate between content that you don't like with a call to exterminate people is crucial. Not saying you're not able to do so, but there's a lot of prejudice and I think that the echo chamber of ResetERA is kinda the extreme opposite of the spectrum.

Let me remind you that I'm not fond of 4chan, but I appreciate them a lot more for respecting free speech and privacy a whole lot better than a lot of places on the internet. It's open and free for anyone. ResetERA there's already this weird stance of them demanding you to open an account with a "corporate email address". I don't know about you, but them saying that after I try to create an account with my microsoft address is fishy and disturbing.

Anywho, we can all agree that the toxicity in ResetERA is a problem and leaking stuff there is much ****tier to deal with, specially considering how everyone can judge the post not by its content, but by prejudices surrounding a particular user.

good enough :)
I actually do like bunnies, so it'd probably be the starter i'd choose if i dont know the evolutions. Gonna check tho, and really am curious what they are.

That is so adorable!!! X3
He is my favorite too, btw
 
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good enough :)
I actually do like bunnies, so it'd probably be the starter i'd choose if i dont know the evolutions. Gonna check tho, and really am curious what they are.

He's gonna burn that deku shield clean off him lol
 

Teeb147

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He's gonna burn that deku shield clean off him lol
Nice catch. I wonder if they considered doing something with that for young link's shield. I mean, it's not like people use it very much, it could've been an interesting touch for fire moves.

I'm actually starting to get excited about the new pokemon now. One more thing to look forward to for any nintendo news.
 

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Bruh can we all just talk about Erdrick being in But Not Really or some **** like we do per usual lol
Pretty much sure there is an Erdrick specific support thread for that lol. Then again I was never able to stop this thread from becoming erdrick 2.0… -shrugs-
 

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Lmfao, I don't know which fans you hanged out with, but I guarantee you I had my fair share of time on forums and among the community to tell that the ending was one of the game's most loved aspects.

And I'm sorry dude, but you're again inflating quite a lot of what I said.
Read my post again. I never stated that he only did the design and Vincent's backstory. I said those were his main contributions bc those were the things that he spearheaded himself. Other tasks were stuff that he wasn't the one to have the final say and was only following suit to the planning the Kitase had in mind alongside Sakaguchi's supervision.
Regarding AC, you're once again putting words into my mouth. Yes, S-E as a whole is to blame for the film, after all, their corporate culture shifted. But what I said was that Nomura is the main one to blame, due to the power he had in hand to make the film worthwhile and respect its origins. Nomura was more interested in doing flashy action scenes than be faithful to the characters, pushing for them to be aligned with the vision he gave life to in his KH series. Nojima wrote the script for the film, again, bc the higherups asked to. It was their decision for a film to be made, and it was Nomura and Nojima that took the helm of making AC the way it is. So instead of calling people ignorant, try to read carefully what people who disagree with you say and try to be less disrespectful. Nobody generalized the ****storm on Nomura, only that he is one of, if not THE, main force behind it.
>Also implying Hollywood even makes excellent films these days like they did decades ago

Again, I already said other things he did to the game, but weren't his main credited works, given that his other tasks were supervised and directed by other people. And idk man, saying Nomura invented the Limit Break when a very similar mechanic already existed in VI, and was pushed for a return with tweaks as suggested by Sakaguchi, is a bit of a stretch.

Uhhhh... yes, Kitase, Nomura and Nojima finished the script, but you forget that Sakaguchi supervised the entire thing as development progressed.
You forget that the main plot points, the characters' personality and the skeleton of a good portion of the arcs were conceived by him. You say it as if he simply peaced out of the project and the three men were responsible for the entire thing being the way it is, when in fact Sakaguchi was the main supervisor for the game's plot, script and helped out Kitase a ton in the game. Heck, he was the main producer of the project.
Also, you're speculating the amount of influence Nomura even had in the conception of the story's cutscenes. Nomura wasn't the scene director for anything. He designed, animated and helped being the main battle planner, but the plot and cutscenes weren't his job at all. Saying he "had something to do with them" and skipping to directiorial skills is very far fetched. It's not me hating on Nomura. I love him at the job he knows to do best. Putting him outside of his field of expertise is reckless, and I'm entitled to criticize his already proven track record of being a bad story teller and director. You're inflating his importance in the plot conception.

Again, you put words into my mouth. Never did I say that he wasn't important to the original game or had zero influence. I already stated quite clearly what his main roles were. But you need to understand that not anyone can be a good director, and just because he worked on the original game doesn't mean he is a good director or a writer. Yes, I wish the responsible for the project would be someone from the old days, but one that is capable for the job.

My dude, chill. If you like his content, all the power to you.
But I have the right to think and say that his work has been garbage and is not even close to the quality of the original leaders of the classic FF projects.
And saying that he directed KH2 is absolutely irrelevant and null to the point at hand. Nobody said that he has no experience as a director. On the contrary. The fact that he has that experience let's us see how bad he actually is for the job at hand.
And let me remind you that KH2's impact comes from the combat that was solid even for a button masher. The story fell completely apart from that game onwards. The scene directing of some of the scenes in that game were not good at all. The game's strength lies in its gameplay and how the world exploration was dealt with (alongside piggybacking on Disney and S-E nostalgia, which isn't bad in itself).

I don't want to say this to ruin your hype for the remake. You can have it all you want, and if you like his work, fine by me, and I hope you're happy with what the Remake will become. But to me, it's just not my cup of tea, and his work hasn't been faithful to the original game whatsoever.
You know with Square changing cloud some much what was his personality what was he actually like because I genuinely don't know lol
 
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Lmfao, I don't know which fans you hanged out with, but I guarantee you I had my fair share of time on forums and among the community to tell that the ending was one of the game's most loved aspects.
*hung. ;)

I'm inclined to agree that the ending was great. I love it too and I didn't think SE needed to warrant a sequel at all. Doesn't mean everyone felt the same way though. Like I said before, a lot of people wanted closure and that's one of the reasons why AC was a thing in the first place. It's a damn shame it turned out to be a hot piece of garbage. I'm confident that those who didn't like it were in the minority, but they're out there pal and the ending of VII left them wanting more. I dislike AC as much as you do dude, trust me but I just personally feel like it's unfair to blame just one guy for it when the movie wasn't even his idea in the first place like you are insinuating with the claim that he along with SE asked Nojima to do the script because that's not true.

AC wasn't Nomura's idea. It was Nojima's. The same guy that wrote the script. The same guy that came up with some of the asinine ideas we witnessed in the movie. Nomura is to blame for putting them together and making them look good, sure but all the weight should not be on his shoulders. I'm not trying to convince you to single out Nojima nor am I trying to change your mind, but what makes Nomura so special to single him out specifically? 'Cause he was the director? 'Cause he only cares about flashy combat? C'mon. I think you just need to be a little more real about it. I get it, you hate Nomura but not everything related to AC is his fault and I feel it's very disingenuous to just point fingers at him and him alone when he wasn't the only top guy involved.

And I'm sorry dude, but you're again inflating quite a lot of what I said.
Read my post again. I never stated that he only did the design and Vincent's backstory. I said those were his main contributions bc those were the things that he spearheaded himself. Other tasks were stuff that he wasn't the one to have the final say and was only following suit to the planning the Kitase had in mind alongside Sakaguchi's supervision.
Then, with all due respect, you are wrong my friend. His main contributions were not just Vincents backstory and character design. You keep forgetting that he was also the battle planner. That's a big role to play in a JRPG, pal and a much bigger task than Vincents backstory. A very big one, especially with everything he offered to the table like flashy Limit Breaks for example. A mechanic that has been iterated in FF in a lot of their games since. Yes he was supervised by Sakaguchi most of the time but why is the idea of Nomura pitching an idea and given the go-ahead by Sakaguchi so farfetched to you? Nomura had a big hand in the final draft of the script and even though he wasn't the guy in the end to say "yes let's do that", Nomura did get that answer quite a bit.

He did the character designs.
He did Vincents backstory.
He also created the idea of Limit Breaks that was influenced by VI's desperation attacks.
He created the storyboard for the Limit Breaks.
He created and the sequences for the summons. All the summons.
And you can deny it all you want, but he did have a say in the story and he completed the final draft with Kitase. He did have a hand in writing the arcs and the backstory for other characters. Most noticably Aerith, Tifa, Sephiroth and obviously Vincent.

Your original rebuttal you made only highlighted and mentioned character design and Vincent. Nomura was handed the role to lead the VII compilation because of how big of a role he took in the original.

Regarding AC, you're once again putting words into my mouth. Yes, S-E as a whole is to blame for the film, after all, their corporate culture shifted. But what I said was that Nomura is the main one to blame, due to the power he had in hand to make the film worthwhile and respect its origins. Nomura was more interested in doing flashy action scenes than be faithful to the characters, pushing for them to be aligned with the vision he gave life to in his KH series. Nojima wrote the script for the film, again, bc the higherups asked to. It was their decision for a film to be made, and it was Nomura and Nojima that took the helm of making AC the way it is. So instead of calling people ignorant, try to read carefully what people who disagree with you say and try to be less disrespectful. Nobody generalized the ****storm on Nomura, only that he is one of, if not THE, main force behind it.
Fair enough. If that's how you feel then that is your prerogative. I'm just refuting some of the points you made that are strongly misconstrued that a lot of people in the FF fanbase tend to believe because it is so easy to point at Nomura and make him a target.

As far as AC goes though I think you and I are probably 2 of the only people in this thread that can agree that AC sucked and it hurt the canon of VII and that it was completely unnecessary. To that, I tip my glass to you sir. I think we'll have to lay down our swords on this subject and agree to disagree. That, and I hate debating about a movie that I didn't like with someone who also didn't like it but hey, if you'd like to carry on with it, I'd be more than obliged to as well.

>Also implying Hollywood even makes excellent films these days like they did decades ago
No sir. I did not imply that at all. Now you are putting words in my mouth. I mentioned Hollywood because I was pointing out that there's not much a comparison between Hollywood making movies and video game developers making movies considering how drastically different things must be behind the scenes when putting the pieces together. That's just my assumption though and that's it.

Again, I already said other things he did to the game, but weren't his main credited works, given that his other tasks were supervised and directed by other people. And idk man, saying Nomura invented the Limit Break when a very similar mechanic already existed in VI, and was pushed for a return with tweaks as suggested by Sakaguchi, is a bit of a stretch.
Correct me if I'm wrong but what you're saying is that regardless of what Nomura offered to the table is discredited of being his influence to the game because his ideas were supervised and greenlit by his higher ups? That's kinda what I'm hearing based on this and your arguments in your last few posts related to that and I don't feel that's a fair assessment. As far as LB's go, Nomura coined the term. Nomura created the idea of the limit bar. That was part of his shtick for being the battle planner. Yes it was influenced by an existing mechanic in VI but it's a whole new mechanic non the less and we have Nomura to thank for that. And let's face it, all the limit breaks were designed and created by him and they were fantastic.

Uhhhh... yes, Kitase, Nomura and Nojima finished the script, but you forget that Sakaguchi supervised the entire thing as development progressed.
No I'm not forgetting that bit it is irrelevant. So he had Sakaguchi looking over his shoulder. Doesn't mean what Nomura had to offer to the story and main plot points should be undermined but I'm glad to hear you admit though in this quote that design and Vincent wasn't his main contribution because you admitting he finished the script concludes that he had another main contribution. Working on the script of arguably one of the greatest FF stories ever told.

It's the final script. How is that not a main contribution? It baffles me that you fail to see that especially when you say:

I never stated that he only did the design and Vincent's backstory. I said those were his main contributions bc those were the things that he spearheaded himself.
He didn't spearhead it. So what? It's the final script of the game. He helped finished writing the final script of the game... but that wasn't a main contribution? What? Sounds like a big ass deal to me.

You forget that the main plot points, the characters' personality and the skeleton of a good portion of the arcs were conceived by him. You say it as if he simply peaced out of the project and the three men were responsible for the entire thing being the way it is, when in fact Sakaguchi was the main supervisor for the game's plot, script and helped out Kitase a ton in the game. Heck, he was the main producer of the project.
Uhm yeah. He kinda did just peace out and then he relegated himself to being a supervisor for the project. He was just there to, you know, supervise and say "sure do this" or "sure do that". He was essentially acting as a chaperone and I'm sure he had plenty of faith in Kitase, Nojima and Nomura to do good. Low and behold they did. He trusted them and look at the final product we got. It was drastically different than Sakaguchi's original plan and it turned out to be a masterpiece.

Also, you're speculating the amount of influence Nomura even had in the conception of the story's cutscenes. Nomura wasn't the scene director for anything. He designed, animated and helped being the main battle planner, but the plot and cutscenes weren't his job at all. Saying he "had something to do with them" and skipping to directiorial skills is very far fetched. It's not me hating on Nomura. I love him at the job he knows to do best. Putting him outside of his field of expertise is reckless, and I'm entitled to criticize his already proven track record of being a bad story teller and director. You're inflating his importance in the plot conception.
They weren't his job. I agree. It wasn't in his job description to direct or have a say in any scenes or scenarios related to the story. I agree but the fact is, it didn't stop him from lending a hand anyways based on interviews with Kitase, Sakaguchi and even Nomura himself. People don't know this because he wasn't credited for it he didn't have to be either because it wasn't his job... but the truth is he had a very heavy hand in the story and the plot mostly regarding character development and people don't know that. They just don't. You clearly don't and that's okay because it's never been expressed much. Why would Kitase say in a 2007 interview after they showed the VII PS3 tech demo that he would like to see Nomura do a remake for the game? Becuase Nomura has done a lot more for the original FFVII storywise and combatwise than people realize and he understands the importance this remake has to SE.

Again, you put words into my mouth. Never did I say that he wasn't important to the original game or had zero influence. I already stated quite clearly what his main roles were. But you need to understand that not anyone can be a good director, and just because he worked on the original game doesn't mean he is a good director or a writer. Yes, I wish the responsible for the project would be someone from the old days, but one that is capable for the job.
The problem I have is that you kind of imply that he wasn't important to the original when all you mentioned in your original rebuttal was character design and Vincent as his "main" contributions. It really does undermine the actual work Nomura put into the original VII. No one is up for the task "from the old days" anymore because nobody wants to do it. Kitase doesn't even want to direct anymore, Sakaguchi hasn't been with the company since '04 and Nojima just wants to write which he is also going to be on board for the VII remake.

My dude, chill. If you like his content, all the power to you.
I'm chill. Don't worry haha. I'm enjoying this discussion we're having. Here's the thing though, I don't like most of his content. Kingdom Hearts is lame and stupid (in my humble opinion) and playing them is a waste of time. The story is bull**** and makes no sense, but we're not talking about Kingdom Farts, we're talking about VII.

But I have the right to think and say that his work has been garbage and is not even close to the quality of the original leaders of the classic FF projects.
More power to you.

And saying that he directed KH2 is absolutely irrelevant and null to the point at hand. Nobody said that he has no experience as a director. On the contrary. The fact that he has that experience let's us see how bad he actually is for the job at hand.
And let me remind you that KH2's impact comes from the combat that was solid even for a button masher. The story fell completely apart from that game onwards. The scene directing of some of the scenes in that game were not good at all. The game's strength lies in its gameplay and how the world exploration was dealt with (alongside piggybacking on Disney and S-E nostalgia, which isn't bad in itself).
I only brought up KH2 because he was the director of that and a ton of people consider it the magnum opus of the franchise. Claiming he shouldn't be directing when he has experience in it is not being sincere imo considering people love KH, a series he created and directed. But whatever, again, Kingdom Hearts is lame.

I don't want to say this to ruin your hype for the remake. You can have it all you want, and if you like his work, fine by me, and I hope you're happy with what the Remake will become. But to me, it's just not my cup of tea, and his work hasn't been faithful to the original game whatsoever.
I appreciate the time you're taking to discuss this and by no means will it dampen my hype for the remake. I just wanted to offer some perspectives of someone who loves VII dearly and really knows how much Nomura had to offer when you actually dive deep into the rabbithole. The perspectives of someone who is actually dislikes the franchise he created himself. I'm just in the camp of believing that he's really the only guy with the experience in directing and writing whether it was in KH or the original VII that is competent enough and has enough knowledge on the subject to know what he is doing. I have faith in him. More-so I have to have faith in him. Would I have chosen someone else? Maybe but I don't know because the options are very limited.
 

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Sooo... The Square Enix 7
are on a road trip. Make some scenarios.

You know, primo scenarios like Sora spilling his soda all over Sephiroth's lap and everyone's blood freezing. (Except Geno, for he has no blood, and Slime because he's the bloodless blob in the trunk that isn't privy to anything anyway.)
 
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Nice catch. I wonder if they considered doing something with that for young link's shield. I mean, it's not like people use it very much, it could've been an interesting touch for fire moves.

I'm actually starting to get excited about the new pokemon now. One more thing to look forward to for any nintendo news.
That's funny. What really sells me on the idea is that you could switch to your crappy hylian shield that was so big he couldn't even hold it up with one arm.

Actually, thinking about it, what if crouching gave Young Link a second shield and that second shield was the hylian shield? That alone suddenly makes the character more unique than Toon Link in application.
 

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are on a road trip. Make some scenarios.

You know, primo scenarios like Sora spilling his soda all over Sephiroth's lap and everyone's blood freezing. (Except Geno, for he has no blood, and Slime because he's the bloodless blob in the trunk that isn't privy to anything anyway.)
This post is the reason I am now trying to think of how a sitcom featuring these seven characters would work. It's to be expected though, I was raised on sitcoms.
 

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That's funny. What really sells me on the idea is that you could switch to your crappy hylian shield that was so big he couldn't even hold it up with one arm.

Actually, thinking about it, what if crouching gave Young Link a second shield and that second shield was the hylian shield? That alone suddenly makes the character more unique than Toon Link in application.
The hylian shield was funny on him. Snake has a box, but that's as much funny reference i think we'll get.
Crouching does block projectiles better than standing most of time i found tho :)

This post is the reason I am now trying to think of how a sitcom featuring these seven characters would work. It's to be expected though, I was raised on sitcoms.
Fun idea. Reminds me of Drawn Together. One character was even based on pikachu so it's not that far off.
I can imagine some fun scenarios with the slime, kinda just being there but just as much of a member.
 
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Fun idea. Reminds me of Drawn Together. One character was even based on pikachu so it's not that far off.
I can imagine some fun scenarios with the slime, kinda just being there but just as much of a member.
I figured the Slime could basically be Erdrick's pet of sorts.
 

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I figured the Slime could basically be Erdrick's pet of sorts.
That sounds too plain. I'd want it to be a full-fledged tenant or something like the others. and it just looks at people with its googly eyes not saying anything when the others talk about or to it. :)
 
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I saw this, and don't know how to feel since I've trusted him for some time now
http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/453163062
Aaaaaand that's why I don't trust some random dude who suddendly joins twitter and "leaks" stuff. When they become noticeable, they have already deleted all the dirt they actually had. RIP that guy, lol. Twitter is definitely not the place to pretend to be a leaker, it only takes one person at the right moment and place to spot the dirt of a fraud in the making and all the effort is gone, lol.
 

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I feel like I'm missing something. What's the significance of this guy?
The user in question came to attention when he/she seemingly got all the material in the February direct correct. Though, the evidence shows that the user in reality was just throwing tweets with random predictions/games and deleting all the incorrect material, creating the sense of credibility.


Any who, has there been any member of a game's development team who thought that a character from their game was announced for Smash?
 
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Quick Question, does anyone have the Posts of Insiders claiming that Erdrick would come with alts?

One said that he'd only come with his Female version and IIRC the other said that he would come with his Female Version and Aluncia (if that's how you spell their name). I think the latter came from Tansut but I could be wrong
 

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Quick Question, does anyone have the Posts of Insiders claiming that Erdrick would come with alts?

One said that he'd only come with his Female version and IIRC the other said that he would come with his Female Version and Aluncia (if that's how you spell their name). I think the latter came from Tansut but I could be wrong
I don't have the leaks on hand, but Tansut basically said that one character on the 5ch leaks matches what he's heard and that that character will have male and female alts. He never specified the character in question, but given his history and other posts he's made, it's Erdrick he was speaking about. He's never made mention of Luminary or Anlucia alts.
 
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I don't have the leaks on hand, but Tansut basically said that one character on the 5ch leaks matches what he's heard and that that character will have male and female alts. He never specified the character in question, but given his history and other posts he's made, it's Erdrick he was speaking about. He's never made mention of Luminary or Anlucia alts.
I must have been remembering wrong or it's someone else who claimed that Aluncia was an alt cause I remember people talking about it, Thanks anyways.
 

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I must have been remembering wrong or it's someone else who claimed that Aluncia was an alt cause I remember people talking about it, Thanks anyways.
both 5ch leaks (I feel it's important to stress that there are two of them now since a lot of people tend to merge them together) claimed Anlucia and Luminary alts.
 

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I believe a Square character is coming this fighters pass. But, I don't follow leaks, I don't give any leaks credibility, no matter how good the track record or whatnot. That's just me. Those who know me know that I keep a "anything can happen" mentality when it comes to Smash. Nintendo is the only inside source I'll listen to.

That being said, since everything is going to be a total surprise to me, I hope you guys get the character(s) you want. There's a lot of Square characters that I think would be really awesome to see. Geno, Sora, and Crono are my top picks. Whatever happens in these coming months, good luck to everyone.
 

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Quick Question; I can't seem to find the posts from Insiders that claim Erdrick is coming with Alts for his Female Counterpart and Aluncia (I think that's how you spell it) Does anyone know where I could find such posts?
Since you and someone else was wondering about some of the leaks, here:

5ch one (translation):

  • Joker
  • The stage is Mementos
  • Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill
  • Marketing of P5R (complete version) and P5U (fighting game)
  • P5R is 2019
  • P5U is delayed because Arc is busy with the development of a Granblue fighting game

  • Erdrick
  • Stage is Alefgard
  • Erdrick (Male) and Erdrick (Female), 2 colors each of Anlucia and the Dragon Quest XI Hero [aka Luminary]
  • Slime appears on screen with a skill
  • Achieved through active collaboration on Square’s side

  • To the benefit of overseas marketing for the DQ series

Xenother:

"Erdrick is the Square Enix character.

I'm not sure of the order of DLC reveals but there are rumblings that the next one is on the horizon. If Erdrick is the next reveal, there are plenty of opportunities over the next month to do so. I've heard rumors of a January direct (although it isn't anything solid) and Dragon Quest will have a special stage at Jump Festa in Japan. They will be sharing info on the Switch port of DQXI. It's being advertised as having a "special guest". Might be something to keep an eye on.

As for The Luminary, he was often mentioned in the same breath as Erdrick when I and others heard about him. I have heard that he and potentially other incarnations of the name Erdrick will be alt skins, though this doesn't come from my main source. "


+Tansut basically just said it's erdrick along with the female alt.
& besides that there's other stuff like Verge and the 5-character 5ch leak.

Off topic but still related to SE, I'd be down for an arc system style fighting game with all SE characters.
I wouldn't mind any that had lots of SE characters, but I'd especially be down for a smash style game with all SE characters XD
 
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I can imagine something like this and selling like hotcakes. Like a Capcom vs SNK 2 kind of deal.
 
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I can imagine something like this and selling like hotcakes. Like a Capcom vs SNK 2 kind of deal.
Things like that and playstation all-stars, fortune street, the jump series, etc, all touch a little on the formula, and we could say Dissidia itself too. It's so much easier within the same company, and SE has so many great franchises and characters that it would only make sense. But, well, industries arent perfect. XD
 

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Things like that and playstation all-stars, fortune street, the jump series, etc, all touch a little on the formula, and we could say Dissidia itself too. It's so much easier within the same company, and SE has so many great franchises and characters that it would only make sense. But, well, industries arent perfect. XD
Understatement of the century :p
 

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(including DQHeroes 2, dont get it on pc)
Are the PC ports of the Heroes games actually bad? I know Koei Tecmo's record on PC is extremely iffy, but I was under the impression that the Heroes ports were decent.

Not that I'd recommend either as anybody's first Dragon Quest unless they were way into musou games already, but they're worth a shot, or at least Heroes II is.
 

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Are the PC ports of the Heroes games actually bad? I know Koei Tecmo's record on PC is extremely iffy, but I was under the impression that the Heroes ports were decent.

Not that I'd recommend either as anybody's first Dragon Quest unless they were way into musou games already, but they're worth a shot, or at least Heroes II is.
It's a great game for anyone who likes the warriors-type games. This one actually follows more rpg and story elements. The second has more open-world and it's very good, along with a class system which is nice.., but the pc performance is really bad. If you're lucky it could run alright but a high amount of people report a lot of slow downs. It can be unplayable when there's too many monsters. If it does run really bad you can make it ok by setting it to 30fps and that works for a lot of people, but i dont feel it's worth playing an action-rpg at 30fps when you can get the better experience on a console.
 
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Still pretty bummed the Dragon Quest Heroes 1+2 collection for Switch didn't come westward. That game was a launch title. Would've been a nice game to have alongside Zelda and Bomberman... and 1, 2, Switch...
 
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