[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Happy Erdrick Year to everyone.

 

[EarlTamm]

Happy new year!

 

[GoodGrief741]

Happy 2019 you rascals!

If Erdrick can get in; I feel like Scorpion would not be a problem.

how

Scorpion dismembers people. What does Erdrick do?

If this rumor is true; what was all the talk about a Tales of Rep?

Talk v. Rumor: Dawn of Nothing

Since we’re full “**** TALKING ABOUT SQUARE” mode, I’d like to say that Doomguy from the original games wasn’t particularly gory. Yeah, the enemies were scary and exploded into blood, but it’s not like Doomguy was running up and tearing their guts out, he was just shooting them with unrealistic guns, which are fair game in Smash. Sure, the reboot made Doomguy full Brutal Doom, but if he got into smash they could just base him on the original.

One of the things I ****ing despise the most about the new Doom is how they took what people who knew nothing about Doom thought Doom was, then they made that game, and then had the gall to call it the same name as the original.

If we're getting Ryu, I wonder if Sakurai will go for the classic blue garb or the more modern black suit.
I like the blue suit better I feel the black suit is more iconic at the moment.
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Probably both.

The Capcom 7, except six of them are Phoenix Wright and one single other entry is Miles Edgeworth

Guess which one we get

Is this heaven?

Okay:
Chun-Li
Phoenix Wright
Morrigan
Jedah
Demitri
Dante
Strider Hiryu
Much simpler than I expected.

How did you get three of those to be Darkstalkers characters? What year do you think it is?

Insider here, can confirm that instead of releasing the DLC characters normally, Nintendo will instead make a list of characters for each slot, with one of these characters being randomly chosen for you upon buying the dlc. There is no way to access the other characters on the list. Sources tell me Nintendo did this due to quote “epic reception” to the square list.

The next evolution of lootboxes is here.

Bandai just owns the Dark Souls trademark, while From owns the actual IP. It’s why they had to say that Slashy Souls is technically not an official Dark Souls game. If by some miracle a Dark Souls character got into smash, Bandai would likely just say “yeah you can use the dark souls name” while From does all the negotiating and communicating.

That sounds needlessly complicated.

I honestly think a possible delay in favour of DLC could explain why Hitagi and Vergeben knew about Minecraft content since pre-release, and why they both stand at it still happening.

Here's one theory I can think of why they're claiming Minecraft content if they're sincere: Minecraft content (like, say, an Ender Dragon boss) was intended for the base game, but Sakurai decided during DLC selection to make Steve a DLC fighter and then quietly removed or delayed development on the Minecraft content so that it would be released later alongside Steve.

Please don’t provide reasonable evidence that makes Minecraft in Smash look likelier.

 

[Robertman2]

Happy 2019 you rascals!



how

Scorpion dismembers people. What does Erdrick do?



Talk v. Rumor: Dawn of Nothing



One of the things I ****ing despise the most about the new Doom is how they took what people who knew nothing about Doom thought Doom was, then they made that game, and then had the gall to call it the same name as the original.



Probably both.



Is this heaven?



How did you get three of those to be Darkstalkers characters? What year do you think it is?



The next evolution of lootboxes is here.



That sounds needlessly complicated.




Please don’t provide reasonable evidence that makes Minecraft in Smash look likelier.

you are quite literally the only person who thinks doom 2016 didn't capture the spirit of the original

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

Happy New Year!

Hmmm. I may have found an interesting followup to that.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

This is just about Ace Attorney the musical.

Bit of an update. I've checked Kamiya's page. There's actually a tweet before the one involving "Takshu". This one:

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which doesn't seem to be about Phoenix.


I'm beginning to think that in actuality, Shu would've been asking Kamiya why he didn't include Phoenix in the poll that Kamiya made. Not so much Smash itself. Or maybe they were having a debate on why Phoenix would be in.


Though the thing that really brings things into doubt is this disclaimer that Kamiya made later:

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If he and Takumi were talking about Smash, it stands to reason he'd have clarified such, Otherwise, I think we may be mistaken in regards to this harming Phoenix Wright's chances.

The first tweet is just Kamiya saying hi to @RoahCongrazica guy.
The sentence after @RoahCongrazica is quote.
@RoahCongrazica spelled Platinum Games wrong so approgizing that and thanking for new informations about the Glanblue game.

I'm not good at reading tweets they're sometimes very hard to backtrack who said what in when.
Apparently the second tweet is Kamiya getting annoyed with similar google translated smash questions he keeps getting so he blocked some dudes.
Looks like people were asking he has any authority for smash developments or not. And he said no.

 

[GoodGrief741]

you are quite literally the only person who thinks doom 2016 didn't capture the spirit of the original

I may be alone but I’m right dammit

 

[Idon]

Honestly, my only gripe about nuDoom is the glory kill system. I still like Doom 2016 and the glory kills definitely aren't as intrusive as I would think, but I feel like I really don't love it in the context of a run-n-gun heavy character being locked into a canned animation with ammo/health/armor exploding out.

Plus, in the general perception it paints Doom as some Mortal Kombat style gore-porn game when it's kinda secondary to the experience.

Still, really like the new Doom and probably gonna buy Doom Eternal.

 

[Rayleigh]

I may be alone but I’m right dammit

Not Alone.

...Uh...I didn't have much else to really add to the thread topic that hasn't been said, otherwise. I mean- I guess I put a Dragon Quest character at number six on WIP data sheet compiliation for Third-Parties? But, uh...I don't know much else about the series. Rumors and leaks/lies aside, data points to Dragon Quest as the bigger name for Square.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Not Alone.

...Uh...I didn't have much else to really add to the thread topic that hasn't been said, otherwise. I mean- I guess I put a Dragon Quest character at number six on WIP data sheet compilation for Third-Parties? But, uh...I don't know much else about the series. Rumors and leaks/lies aside, data points to Dragon Quest as the bigger name for Square.

>Data Sheet

Go on. I'm interested...

 

[EarlTamm]

Honestly, my only gripe about nuDoom is the glory kill system. I still like Doom 2016 and the glory kills definitely aren't as intrusive as I would think, but I feel like I really don't love it in the context of a run-n-gun heavy character being locked into a canned animation with ammo/health/armor exploding out.

Plus, in the general perception it paints Doom as some Mortal Kombat style gore-porn game when it's kinda secondary to the experience.

Still, really like the new Doom and probably gonna buy Doom Eternal.

Idk, the glory kill system is not even as gory as it could be. It's not like Doomguy is savoring the moments of a slow kill. He goes strait for the most effective kill option, does his business and moves on to the next demon, not giving what he just did an extra thought. For an act having the word "glory" in the name, Doomguy conducts it in an almost nonchalant way(Well, as nonchalant as Doomguy can get). At least, that is my perspective on it.

 

[Squirtle/Mario guy]

It'd be cool to see Seporoth in so FF to get another rep especially after Sakurai said that he couldn't find another character as iconic as Cloud.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

The next FF character is obviously Noctus.

 

[Idon]

Idk, the glory kill system is not even as gory as it could be. It's not like Doomguy is savoring the moments of a slow kill. He goes strait for the most effective kill option, does his business and moves on to the next demon, not giving what he just did an extra thought. For an act having the word "glory" in the name, Doomguy conducts it in an almost nonchalant way(Well, as nonchalant as Doomguy can get). At least, that is my perspective on it.

Well, Doomslayer doesn't strike me as the sadist type. For all that rage, he just wants demons dead, the suffering is just a bonus.
Now if you want sadism in finishing moves, you're better off looking at Bayonetta.

Plus breaking the gameplay up with micro-cutscenes any longer than necessary would be annoying.

 

[Rayleigh]

DaybreakHorizon

Well, after making all of my observations within the Custom Robo Thread (cue shameless plug), I started to look at other characters in order to compile data that could be used when hypothesizing entries into Smash 5's DLC Roster, and then looking forward to the potential of either more DLC or the Smash 6 Roster. This is then further split between the first/second and third parties for more clarity.

It's, uh...Not done yet. I have to find things such as first week sales numbers (EU, US, JP), First year sales, Lifetime sales, Total Entries, Recent Entry Data, Company relationships, yadda yadda.

But with this thread hyping up Square Enix characters, I pushed them up higher onto my research. Very crude stuff right now, so the rankings change a lot due to conflicting data.

 

[Deleted member]

Happy new year Everyone!!!

Hope this year is great for everyone.

Happy New Year!



This is just about Ace Attorney the musical.



The first tweet is just Kamiya saying hi to @RoahCongrazica guy.
The sentence after @RoahCongrazica is quote.
@RoahCongrazica spelled Platinum Games wrong so approgizing that and thanking for new informations about the Glanblue game.

I'm not good at reading tweets they're sometimes very hard to backtrack who said what in when.
Apparently the second tweet is Kamiya getting annoyed with similar google translated smash questions he keeps getting so he blocked some dudes.
Looks like people were asking he has any authority for smash developments or not. And he said no.

Thanks for the translations, its nice to get insights as to the Japanese side of the smash fanbase and developers.

Well, Doomslayer doesn't strike me as the sadist type. For all that rage, he just wants demons dead, the suffering is just a bonus.
Now if you want sadism in finishing moves, you're better off looking at Bayonetta.

Plus breaking the gameplay up with micro-cutscenes any longer than necessary would be annoying.

I think the difference between Bayo and Doom is that in Doom the actions are less sadistic but are quite gory while in Bayo they are quite sadistic(with the torture devices) but not as gory. I don't think that they are an essential part of Doomguy as they are for Scorpion or Sub-Zero for example.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

It'd be cool to see Seporoth in so FF to get another rep especially after Sakurai said that he couldn't find another character as iconic as Cloud.

I don't think he ever said that. He simply said a number of requests and the most talked about Final Fantasy character was Cloud, which is a pretty much no brainer.

There's obviously other iconic Final Fantasy characters, classes, monsters, and mascots. You don't get to 15 main installments, numerous spin-offs, and 31 years with only one icon. Lol.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

Happy new year Everyone!!!

Hope this year is great for everyone.

Thanks for the translations, its nice to get insights as to the Japanese side of the smash fanbase and developers.


I think the difference between Bayo and Doom is that in Doom the actions are less sadistic but are quite gory while in Bayo they are quite sadistic(with the torture devices) but not as gory. I don't think that they are an essential part of Doomguy as they are for Scorpion or Sub-Zero for example.

Well I mean I believe doomguy and doomslayer aren't the same guy doomguy isn't as angry as doomslayer but if they are the same guy he got really pissed being in hell for some long lol

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't think he ever said that. He simply said a number of requests and the most talked about Final Fantasy character was Cloud, which is a pretty much no brainer.

There's obviously other iconic Final Fantasy characters, classes, monsters, and mascots. You don't get to 15 main installments, numerous spin-offs, and 31 years with only one icon. Lol.

Yeah, as I keep looking on Source Gaming for it, the words Cloud and Iconic do not come up with a similar article. Not that there is any denying Cloud is iconic, but that wasn't part of the reasoning. Being the most popular was kind of a key factor. Albeit, I'm pretty sure it still played a role, just not the only one.

He has chosen some who wouldn't be as iconic as others in a franchise. As things just aren't that simple. He can't just choose an icon alone. There's other factors, including who works better for a moveset.

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

That's why I think the "leaker" put it there.
The Vergeben leaks are talked about on 2ch so I do believe they'd know about them.

I just think that 5 characters were always planned, and moving one of the base characters to DLC would mean that one of the 5 DLC characters would need to be scrapped to make room, Piranha Plant is free DLC afterall, and isn't a part of the fighter pass.

Japanese smash community is always tracking the western leak scenes so they know very well what’s going on with this Verge’s 7 SE reps show.
They are watching here, reddit, resetera, 4chan and such. Translating almost every posts PolarPanda made even Fatmanonice’s theories.

 

[Calane]

I'm very late to this whole thing, but I'm starting to become dangerously hyped for something that may not even happen. After hearing about this Tansut guy, it would seem like things are looking better than ever for Erdrick, and I really couldn't be happier about it!

As always, I'm going to try not to get my hopes up too much and prepare for disappointment, but I can't help but feel just a little bit more hopeful than I was before. I even changed my avatar because of it, lol.

Even if Erdrick turns out to not be the SE character, I'm actually quite grateful that I experienced a time where I got to believe Dragon Quest was going to show up in Smash.

Oh, and Happy New Year everyone!

 

[NoOtherPersona]

I'm very late to this whole thing, but I'm starting to become dangerously hyped for something that may not even happen. After hearing about this Tansut guy, it would seem like things are looking better than ever for Erdrick, and I really couldn't be happier about it!

As always, I'm going to try not to get my hopes up too much and prepare for disappointment, but I can't help but feel just a little bit more hopeful than I was before. I even changed my avatar because of it, lol.

Even if Erdrick turns out to not be the SE character, I'm actually quite grateful that I experienced a time where I got to believe Dragon Quest was going to show up in Smash.

Oh, and Happy New Year everyone!

if that ever happens heck i think just about anything can happen maybe my anime sword boy dreams can come true all we need left is
Tales
Ys
SMT joker kinda don't cut it and maybe dante if they can add doom guy they can add him lol

 

[Calane]

if that ever happens heck i think just about anything can happen maybe my anime sword boy dreams can come true all we need left is
Tales
Ys
SMT joker kinda don't cut it and maybe dante if they can add doom guy they can add him lol

Gotta admit, I'm a little surprised to see someone mention Ys. I would absolutely love to see Adol Christin added, but I hardly ever have an opportunity to talk about that character. You have good taste, my dude.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

Gotta admit, I'm a little surprised to see someone mention Ys. I would absolutely love to see Adol Christin added, but I hardly ever have an opportunity to talk about that character. You have good taste, my dude.

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i wouldn't be in the square rep thread if i had bad taste RPGs are my lifeline lol

 

[Deleted member]

you are quite literally the only person who thinks doom 2016 didn't capture the spirit of the original

NuDoom was... decent, it wasn’t bad. But honestly OgDoom>>>NuDoom any day of the week. Such a solid game.

 

[Fakol]

Spoiler: Just testing

12 名無しさん必死だな[sage] 2018/12/09(日) 23:03:46.72 ID:g2iNILpgd

1 ジョーカー
2019年前半にP5Rが発売される

2 エルドリック(ロトの海外名)
カラバリにアンルシアやイレブンも
2019年にDQ11Sの発売だけでなくDQ過去作も発売される
海外でDQを売り出すため(DQ11Sは海外任天パブ)

3 リュウハヤブサ
忍者龍剣伝30周年でプロジェクトが動いてる
2019年にソフトが出る(新作かは不明)

4 スティーブ
E3 2019で発表予定
カラバリにアレックスやチーフスキンも
本来はベースのゲームで参戦予定だったが
ダンジョンズの宣伝との兼ね合いでDLCになった

5 マリン(DOOMの海兵隊)
E3 2019で発表予定
カラバリにDOOM 64版のコスも
DOOM Eternalの宣伝も兼ねて

Translation:
1 Joker
P5R will be released in the first half of 2019.

2 Erdrick (Roto's name overseas)
Anlucia and Eleven (Luminary's name in Japan) as pallet swaps.
Not just DQ11S but past DQ series will be released in 2019.
He's in to promote DQ franchise overseas (DQ11S will be published by Nintendo).

3 Ryu Hayabusa
There is a project on going for Ninja Gaiden's 30th anniversary.
New game comes out in 2019 (not sure it's brand new or not).

4 Steve
He will be announced in E3 2019.
Alex and Master Chief skin as pallet swaps.
He was supposed to be in the base roster but sent to the DLC for Minecraft Dungeons' promotion.

5 Marine (from DOOM)
He will be announced in E3 2019.
DOOM 64 costume as pallet swap.
Promotion for DOOM Eternal.

https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1544363780/

It's a joke right?

 

[shinhed-echi]

I'm very late to this whole thing, but I'm starting to become dangerously hyped for something that may not even happen. After hearing about this Tansut guy, it would seem like things are looking better than ever for Erdrick, and I really couldn't be happier about it!

As always, I'm going to try not to get my hopes up too much and prepare for disappointment, but I can't help but feel just a little bit more hopeful than I was before. I even changed my avatar because of it, lol.

Even if Erdrick turns out to not be the SE character, I'm actually quite grateful that I experienced a time where I got to believe Dragon Quest was going to show up in Smash.

Oh, and Happy New Year everyone!

That avatar is adorable. :D

Yes, it looks like Tsnsut is a big deal after all. It's just the way he revealed the Character, not making much of a fuzz about it, that gives me a bad vibe.

But apparently, he's a lock, if he Says he's in. And I can see why.

I feel the exact same way, though. I don't want to get to excited yet. But if it ends up not being him, at least I enjoying the ride with all the DQ talk (except that major DQ11 spoiler I read a few Pages back... Sheesh...)

Always been curious about Ys. And SMT. So I want to try out both series someday.

I don't take that Japanese leak seriously, which is why I haven't Jumped in on all the Doom / NG talk. But that would just be too much for me to handle.


Also happy New year everybody!!!

 

[Fakol]

Where is Banjo-Kazooie?
Ryu Hayabusa? We have already a ninja.
Sakurai did not want diversity? And who is this guy?

 

[OpticalBlast]

Where is Banjo-Kazooie?
Ryu Hayabusa? We have already a ninja.
Sakurai did not want diversity? And who is this guy?

Ryu Hayabusa is the protagonist of Ninja Gaiden. He differs from the other two in that he is literally a ninja, uses a katana-based fighting style currently unrepresented in Smash, and has a lot of moveset potential beyond that (tons of weapons, various elemental Ninpo, etc.) I'd recommend checking out the originals if you like tough NES platformers.

As for the leak, don't take it too seriously. It's just a text leak that will get deconfirmed soon (although Erdrick is probably in for related-yet-different reasons.)

 

[GameWatching]

Where is Banjo-Kazooie?
Ryu Hayabusa? We have already a ninja.
Sakurai did not want diversity? And who is this guy?

What makes you think Banjo-Kazooie is more important than any of the characters in that list ?

 

[PolarPanda]

I'm pretty sure the ryu, doomguy, etc. Leaker is not the erdrick one, lol. They are 5chan posts. There's nothing specifically guaranteeing they were the same people. Not sure how this rumor spread.

 

[Untouch]

I'm pretty sure the ryu, doomguy, etc. Leaker is not the erdrick one, lol. They are 5chan posts. There's nothing specifically guaranteeing they were the same people. Not sure how this rumor spread.

I don't think they're the same person, but both mentioned that Erdrick would also have DQX and DQXI alts.

 

[PolarPanda]

I don't think they're the same person, but both mentioned that Erdrick would also have DQX and DQXI alts.

Ah, i could see that being why some people believe it.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Well, not sure about DQX, but Erdrick having a Luminary alt makes good sense regardless since DQIII and XI have a connection, but also to advertise for DQXI Switch.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

Here's a neat and relevant wallpaper I found Fellow DQ fans

 

[jokermelee]

Ah, i could see that being why some people believe it.

both posts also mentioned P5R for 2019 in their posts which was just announced for 2019 the other day, while that might be just an easy thing to predict i don't think it should be taken lightly. the 5ch post that was posted a couple hours after this huge leak (the one with just Joker and Erdrick) also said P5U was delayed cause ArcSys was working on a Granblue game, which we now know is true. so that's definitely something to take into account

 

[Ovaltine]

Honestly, with how P5R is such an easy thing to predict and Joker was so heavily kept under wraps, I really don't think the 5chan leak with the full DLC lineup should be trusted. Knowing two characters, fine, but the entire fighter's pass? Very unlikely. Erdrick, I'm like 99% sure about, but everything else is so up in the air. It's like that one other Joker leak that mentioned Neku or Crono as the Square rep: a lucky guess, but just that. I'm only gonna put my chips in on Erdrick, personally.

 

[PsySmasher]

both posts also mentioned P5R for 2019 in their posts which was just announced for 2019 the other day, while that might be just an easy thing to predict i don't think it should be taken lightly. the 5ch post that was posted a couple hours after this huge leak (the one with just Joker and Erdrick) also said P5U was delayed cause ArcSys was working on a Granblue game, which we now know is true. so that's definitely something to take into account

2 Things:

1. Persona 5 Arena, despite being rumored and a likely scenario, isn’t 100% confirmed. Don’t treat it as such until it is.

2. Granblue VS’ development may or may not affect the game’s development.

I posted extensively about this a couple days ago, so I’m just gonna link that here:

Well since we seem to have nothing else to discuss, I want to bring up something... weird with the Joker/Erdrick leak.

But it doesn’t have to with any of the Smash-related info. It deals with the supposed development of Persona 5 Arena.

For those of you who don’t know, Arc System Works has 2 major fighting game development teams:

Team BLUE: Deals w/ sprite-based fighters (Blazblue, Persona 4 Arena)

Team RED: Deals w/ model-based fighters (Guilty Gear, Dragon Ball Fighterz (I think))

It said in the leak that P5A’s development was delayed by the development of Granblue VS.

However, based on the information we have, it seems like Granblue VS would be developed by Team Red, while Persona 5 Arena is more than likely to be developed by Team Blue.

So that begs the question:
How would the development of Granblue VS push back the development of Persona 5 Arena?

There is a chance that there are a number of people working on both teams, but if there are 2 separate development teams, why would the development of one game seriously affect the other?

It may be nothing in the end, but this is... kind of suspicious in my opinion.

I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet or if any of the major leakers/insiders/YouTubers know this info, but if they don’t, at least notify them of this possibility. They’ve got way more influence on the community than I do.

It’s not out of the realm of possibility.

But it would be a really weird decision since Persona 4 Arena was a successful 2D fighter that not only got a sequel in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, but was also included in Blazblue Cross Tag Battle many years after Ultimax’s release.

I figured most people would expect Persona 5 Arena to follow the same 2D style.

 

[Nazyrus]

Honestly, with how P5R is such an easy thing to predict and Joker was so heavily kept under wraps, I really don't think the 5chan leak with the full DLC lineup should be trusted. Knowing two characters, fine, but the entire fighter's pass? Very unlikely. Erdrick, I'm like 99% sure about, but everything else is so up in the air. It's like that one other Joker leak that mentioned Neku or Crono as the Square rep: a lucky guess, but just that. I'm only gonna put my chips in on Erdrick, personally.

100% this.

Also guys… just because two people happen to say a similar thing on that website, doesn't make it more credible. Things start that way, and before you know it, 10 more fake leakers start repeating the same thing. Saying the same thing doesn't necessarily mean it's gotta be real, lol. Come on, we should've learned that already.

 

[ZenythSmash]

Now that Tansut has essentially tossed his hat into the Erdrick ring, I'm almost positive that Leakypandy's info was, on some level, legit since that's the only leak that fits everything that we now know that they had reason to be upset about.

Leaky did say "some" the original info fell apart before the TGAs started
i'm guessing things were rearranged which lines up to Sakurai admitting Joker was rushed out for the TGAs

 

[Robertman2]

Where is Banjo-Kazooie?
Ryu Hayabusa? We have already a ninja.
Sakurai did not want diversity? And who is this guy?

And we have a dozen platformer mascots. Your point is?