Split TX (pm me if u want to do this)

[Zori]

I'm down with this idea.

 

[screeddie]

I don't care as long as I can participate, lol.

Seconded.
I want to be in the ST vs. NT crew battle. :D

 

[DoH]

Uh.

Infinity.


You've been playing competitive smash for what, nine months?

You've never traveled out of state, as far as I know. The one big interregional tournament you've been to was one HOBO, which only had minimal OOC representation. OHSNAP was pretty much a big Texas tournament in the sense that that's who the top spots were taken by.

So on what authority do you have to claim that our region is in the top 3 of the nation without question?

The East and West coasts will always have an advantage because their populations are more dense, thus meaning that they more smashers per area, which means a more diverse range of players and skills, so people can get better faster.

Everyone should know by now the best way to get better is to get ***** by really good people. I started to get better by getting ***** by drew and chang, and then during smashfests with Wes and Jordan, and now by Wobbles and bluezaft on occasion. This is where the other regions have an advantage. Texas is so spread out that it's really hard for us to compete other than raw talent.

MD/VA/DC, NY/NJ/PA, and NorCal/SoCal all have these inherent geographical advantages. Our situation is not akin to this. We're more like Florida.

This North/South division is silly, and just Houston trying to copy California. We're better off operation off of city divisions

 

[UltimateRazer]

@ D'oH - HOBO 11 had both east and west coast representation.

DSF/Edreeses from west

Azen/M2K from east.

Just wanted to clarify

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

Uh.

Infinity.


You've been playing competitive smash for what, nine months?

You've never traveled out of state, as far as I know. The one big interregional tournament you've been to was one HOBO, which only had minimal OOC representation. OHSNAP was pretty much a big Texas tournament in the sense that that's who the top spots were taken by.

So on what authority do you have to claim that our region is in the top 3 of the nation without question?

The East and West coasts will always have an advantage because their populations are more dense, thus meaning that they more smashers per area, which means a more diverse range of players and skills, so people can get better faster.

Everyone should know by now the best way to get better is to get ***** by really good people. I started to get better by getting ***** by drew and chang, and then during smashfests with Wes and Jordan, and now by Wobbles and bluezaft on occasion. This is where the other regions have an advantage. Texas is so spread out that it's really hard for us to compete other than raw talent.

MD/VA/DC, NY/NJ/PA, and NorCal/SoCal all have these inherent geographical advantages. Our situation is not akin to this. We're more like Florida.

This North/South division is silly, and just Houston trying to copy California. We're better off operation off of city divisions

Thank you

<3 DoH

 

[CY]

Uh.

Infinity.


You've been playing competitive smash for what, nine months?

You've never traveled out of state, as far as I know. The one big interregional tournament you've been to was one HOBO, which only had minimal OOC representation. OHSNAP was pretty much a big Texas tournament in the sense that that's who the top spots were taken by.

So on what authority do you have to claim that our region is in the top 3 of the nation without question?

The East and West coasts will always have an advantage because their populations are more dense, thus meaning that they more smashers per area, which means a more diverse range of players and skills, so people can get better faster.

Everyone should know by now the best way to get better is to get ***** by really good people. I started to get better by getting ***** by drew and chang, and then during smashfests with Wes and Jordan, and now by Wobbles and bluezaft on occasion. This is where the other regions have an advantage. Texas is so spread out that it's really hard for us to compete other than raw talent.

MD/VA/DC, NY/NJ/PA, and NorCal/SoCal all have these inherent geographical advantages. Our situation is not akin to this. We're more like Florida.

This North/South division is silly, and just Houston trying to copy California. We're better off operation off of city divisions

i said this on the 4th page :D but you put it in better words than i did. thank you.

i'm off to eat christmas dinner yum yum yum

 

[Furbs]

@ D'oH - HOBO 11 had both east and west coast representation.

DSF/Edreeses from west

Azen/M2K from east.

Just wanted to clarify

4 people is hardly enough OOS turnout to justify an intergrated regional tournament, in fact it would have just been M2k and azen if it wasn't for me.

I think DOH is right, we're too spread out to really have a Ntex/Stex. we should have rivalries based on cities, although the only problem with that is cities like san angelo because dojo santi and cake are the only players that actually go anywhere.

 

[Espy Rose]

I really see no problems with a little competition between two different sections of the state, just for the sake of a higher level of concentrated play to improve upon.

But whatever, I'll just do whatever everyone else agrees on doing.

I just don't see why people think this is "silly", or "stupid". It's no big deal.

However, I still want this epic 10v10 NT vs. ST crew battle. It sounds too good not to have.

Also, city rivalries make me sad face. San Antonio is a joke when compared to others.
I mean, at the top, it's always the same:

Espy, K Prime, Morningstar/dance grenade, and Zsdk. In any order possible.
Actually, thinking about it, that sounds pretty cool...

I just wish SA was closer to everyone else, so I can go OoT more often. I mean, the only time I've ever been to an OoT tournament was the ones at Schertz back in 06-07, and the New Braunfels 2v2 tournament earlier this year...

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace.

 

[The MC Clusky]

MY FINAL VERDICT:
(As declared by that "other" notable Texas tournament host)

Big crew battles are awesome, and will be the highlight of FS5 (I haven't had crews since FS2! it's a **** shame!)

North and South probably will have little impact on future tournaments, unless we see North vs South at future majors (A new tradition? I hope so!)

We only need one PR list. We don't have a big enough community here to support two. End of story.

BOTTOM LINE:

Splitting Texas doesn't really matter, but crew battles are awesome. Nuff said.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

rofl @ dance grenade being top 5.

 

[JonBeBonanza]

SoTex.


i think you would just need to establish boundaries.

 

[Hylian]

We are not having seperate power rankings. Don't try to convince me otherwise. California does because their state has a HUGE smash scene in the south and the north and thier state is really just layed out perfectly for that kind of thing. Texas is huge but not in density and we don't have near the smash scene cali has. We don't get 192 people at local tournaments. We don't have 300+ tournaments period. We don't even come close to matching how many smashers they have.

I honestly don't see how having NT and ST will make people travel more. In california Socal goes to Socal tournaments and Norcal goes to Norcal tournaments. They don't cross for smaller tournaments to try and prove themselves. The all go to big ones like Axis however. Just like most texans go to big tournaments here but don't travel that far for small ones. They don't have this rediculous rivalry. They are just really really far away from each other and are pretty much forced to split communities.

That being said NT vs ST won't really hurt anything, just sort of make us look stupid to some people.

So, here is what I propose:

I think most people are hyping this up because they are excited about crew battles between NT and ST. Yeah, it's awesome. Everyone loves crews and it would definitly raise the competitve spirit. I don't really feel that we need all the pointless drama. We already all know each other and already have ties to whoever and such. We don't need to just seperate all of a sudden and have a false sense of pride about the whole ordeal.


So lets do something new. Something other states haven't done. Something we can be proud of. Now, it's going to sound exactly the same..which is kind of the point...but it gets rid off all the stupid stuff.

Lets just have two crews. 10 people with 5 alternates if available. NT and ST. We assign two captains. The captains pick the crew before each event, can change it at the event, decide the order people go in, they basically make all the final desicions. They are free to talk with people about who should be on of course and I suggest that be done, but we need two people to make the final cuts to avoid a ton of arguing with no real authority. We can also assign co-captains to take the place of captains if they cannot make it to an event. If neither the co-captain or the captain can make it then the crew battle just won't happen.

These crew battles should happen at every tournament that they can. Whenever enough players are present they need to happen.

We will keep track of the wins and have a topic for crews discussion and to display how many wins the NT/ST crews have. So say NT wins at FS5 it will looks like NT: 1 ST: 0. For the people that want to be on the crew it provides incentive to travel more and improve so they can be involved. It promotes travel between the northern and southern citys to strengthen the crews.

Seriously, crew battles are amazing and this could become a huge event at every tournament. We don't need to split texas, we can just have crew battles every tournaments . It will be very fun at the least.

 

[PhantomX]

I concur with Jordan.

Don't forget to tell me when you get back in town, btw.

 

[Daimonster]

Omg, I just came up with an amazing idea. Alright think about this...

2 crews. 10 players each. Each crew has a designated captain.

Now...draft them. 2 captains...18 players to choose from. The best of the best for a draft crew.

 

[Hylian]

Omg, I just came up with an amazing idea. Alright think about this...

2 crews. 10 players each. Each crew has a designated captain.

Now...draft them. 2 captains...18 players to choose from. The best of the best for a draft crew.

Uh...Did you read my post?


LOL.


Phantom I just got back in town actually. If you want to you can come over and play right now! XD. Tomorrow I'm going to work on my car around 2 though so after that I'll let you know when I'm back.

 

[Fliphopper]

South will prevail... (forget Civil War >_>) Would be intense though.

 

[Espy Rose]

rofl @ dance grenade being top 5.

Step it up in tournaments Suspect.

We are not having seperate power rankings. Don't try to convince me otherwise. California does because their state has a HUGE smash scene in the south and the north and thier state is really just layed out perfectly for that kind of thing. Texas is huge but not in density and we don't have near the smash scene cali has. We don't get 192 people at local tournaments. We don't have 300+ tournaments period. We don't even come close to matching how many smashers they have.

I honestly don't see how having NT and ST will make people travel more. In california Socal goes to Socal tournaments and Norcal goes to Norcal tournaments. They don't cross for smaller tournaments to try and prove themselves. The all go to big ones like Axis however. Just like most texans go to big tournaments here but don't travel that far for small ones. They don't have this rediculous rivalry. They are just really really far away from each other and are pretty much forced to split communities.

That being said NT vs ST won't really hurt anything, just sort of make us look stupid to some people.

So, here is what I propose:

I think most people are hyping this up because they are excited about crew battles between NT and ST. Yeah, it's awesome. Everyone loves crews and it would definitly raise the competitve spirit. I don't really feel that we need all the pointless drama. We already all know each other and already have ties to whoever and such. We don't need to just seperate all of a sudden and have a false sense of pride about the whole ordeal.

So lets do something new. Something other states haven't done. Something we can be proud of. Now, it's going to sound exactly the same..which is kind of the point...but it gets rid off all the stupid stuff.

Lets just have two crews. 10 people with 5 alternates if available. NT and ST. We assign two captains. The captains pick the crew before each event, can change it at the event, decide the order people go in, they basically make all the final desicions. They are free to talk with people about who should be on of course and I suggest that be done, but we need two people to make the final cuts to avoid a ton of arguing with no real authority. We can also assign co-captains to take the place of captains if they cannot make it to an event. If neither the co-captain or the captain can make it then the crew battle just won't happen.

These crew battles should happen at every tournament that they can. Whenever enough players are present they need to happen.

We will keep track of the wins and have a topic for crews discussion and to display how many wins the NT/ST crews have. So say NT wins at FS5 it will looks like NT: 1 ST: 0. For the people that want to be on the crew it provides incentive to travel more and improve so they can be involved. It promotes travel between the northern and southern citys to strengthen the crews.

Seriously, crew battles are amazing and this could become a huge event at every tournament. We don't need to split texas, we can just have crew battles every tournaments . It will be very fun at the least.

In all honesty, as I've said, this is all I want. Crew Battles always looked so **** fun, and I've never been able to participate in a Crew Battle at all before. This entire concept just seems so **** fun that getting involved with it just gets me all excited and such.

So, would it be safe to assume that NT vs. ST Crew Battle will happen?

That, and your idea is pure sex.

 

[PhantomX]

Uh...Did you read my post?


LOL.


Phantom I just got back in town actually. If you want to you can come over and play right now! XD. Tomorrow I'm going to work on my car around 2 though so after that I'll let you know when I'm back.

Yeh, just hit me up tomorrow. I'm gonna finish (or try to) installing PS Ubuntu on my PS3 for media viewing purposes.

 

[Daimonster]

Uh...Did you read my post?


LOL.
.

Not until after I posted.

Anywho, after hearing other player's thoughts. I'm going to have to agree with the points Hylian made.

 

[screeddie]

Also, city rivalries make me sad face. San Antonio is a joke when compared to others.
I mean, at the top, it's always the same:

Espy, K Prime, Morningstar/dance grenade, and Zsdk. In any order possible.

That doesn't mean we aren't badass. D:<

 

[Espy Rose]

That doesn't mean we aren't badass. D:<

True.

Sonic/Pika/Diddy/Snake.

It's friggin' awesome.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

LMAO how u gonna tell me to step it up when dance grenade has not placed high at all? matter fact im the one who sent him to losers the FIRST round of his FIRST tourny here that he attended. Then ethan took care of the rest and DG almost placed last that tourny. Have you even played him? Ask him, he knows me, ethan and morningstar are better than him.

lol@telling me to step it up

 

[Espy Rose]

Dance grenade went pretty well off against Morningstar at that tournament you held a week or two ago. I went under the false assumption that he was at a certain level, for being able to hang with Morningstar the way he did.

I'm going to keep watching him though. Despite the results of his FIRST tournament, he seems to be able to do quite well. He definately improved from when he played at JUJ's.

You do need to step it up though. Losing to a Peach- that doesn't even play Smash- in losers.
Can you give me the details of that set? I just remember hearing that Tofer took you out, then 0_o -ing accordingly.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

i 2 stocked him then he CP rainbow cruise and won (close match) and then i CP jungle japes and he won still close.

idk that day i didnt do good at all, Ethan almost beat >_> that dont happen. Yea im johning lol but still his peach is actually ok. I shoulda went peach dittos tho cuz i no mine is better but idk it's no biggy

Im hoping to do better now anyways now that i use other characters so it wont be kirby only from now on

 

[Espy Rose]

I see, that's actually pretty cool. Tofer's a friend of mine whom I've tried to get into the Smash scene. He fails to get active without my interference though. In fact, he only showed up that day because I supplied the ride to and from his house, and to a friend's house for free food later that night.

I haven't played you since early December, and I kinda wanna get some more matches in soon.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

ill be free to play sunday and any day after. Early sunday tho...i got a date that night :o

 

[screeddie]

Dance grenade went pretty well off against Morningstar at that tournament you held a week or two ago. I went under the false assumption that he was at a certain level, for being able to hang with Morningstar the way he did.

Make no mistake, Dance is amazing at this game. I surprise myself whenever I beat him.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

yea dance is good, but most def not top 5. i canz hangz witz morningstar

 

[screeddie]

Someone come hang with me, I'm bored like crazy. D:

 

[Espy Rose]

I have no plans til New Years.

Anyone gonna go and have a little smashfest this week?

 

[Xyro77]

yet again, hylian wrecks it.


thanks.

 

[furiousduffmanx]

Maybe you guys should rotate leaders depending on how they do on the crew battles. It would make things a bit more competitive since everyone would want to be the leader and beating the other crew as well.

 

[The MC Clusky]

I think this thread has run its course and needs to be closed.

 

[Dr Drew the Dragon]

Did anything actually get decided? Or is this going to be potential good idea #437 that never gets off the ground because everyone is lazy and not enough people are ever going to travel?

 

[Hylian]

Did anything actually get decided? Or is this going to be potential good idea #437 that never gets off the ground because everyone is lazy and not enough people are ever going to travel?

I'll get something going with this. So far everyone who has replied like my idea but I would give it another day or so for more people to see.

 

[PhantomX]

It should be simple enough to get a 10v10 crew battle going for FS5 and the likes of WHOBO... i.e. the larger tournaments. It'll be interesting to see if they happen outside of those.

 

[JonBeBonanza]

There's too many lieu-pools in both ideas. Although I personally am in favor of dividing the lone star state, it would appear that those chances are one sided. The reason i am in favor of the split is mainly due to traveling.

It's safe to say that majority of Texas tourneys are held in Houston. For anyone in the Houston area they are blessed for they don't have to travel as far and have a large smash community in they're own backyard. Everyone else is burdened with having to travel long distances for tourneys all because of their relative location to Houston .

Idk it's too confusing and i have a headache.

And is it just me or does it seem that this "split" was proposed for the sole purpose of crew battles?

 

[The MC Clusky]

Did anything actually get decided? Or is this going to be potential good idea #437 that never gets off the ground because everyone is lazy and not enough people are ever going to travel?

Yeah. Big crew battles are awesome, we don't need two power rankings, and whether or not people want to rally north/south spirit is entirely up to them.

FS5 will be the first clash between "north" and "south" and we'll just see how things go after that.

 

[Xyro77]

this thread was created NOT FOR CREWS. crews is a benifit of splitting tx. my idead WILL improve tx. screw people like hylian and morons like suspect.


IF you want to form a north and a south and a PR system for both....pm me.

 

[PhantomX]

Why is it that whenever ANYONE gives an opposing viewpoint, you need to attack their character? Texas doesn't have enough avid smashers to warrant a big division, and even if we do split it up... I bet you it doesn't get very many more people traveling that don't do so already. This way we get our crew battles without having to attempt (and ultimately fail) at the rest of the stuff.