Sorry kids, here's why Geno won't get in. The good news? Krystal might.

[NessOnett]

X out, marth,G&W new zelda rep, possibly AC rep, and still you can't confirm 36 so K.Rool can definatly replace one of those.

G&W is in, Marth is probably in, Zelda and AC are highly doubtful. and 36 seems a very conservative estimate at this point.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

X out, marth,G&W new zelda rep, possibly AC rep, and still you can't confirm 36 so K.Rool can definatly replace one of those.

Game & Watch is assured, I can tell you that

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm sorry Ganon, but you're going to slow at this point/it's bad new trying to talk to two people at the same time at different points, so I'll say this. (Though if PI lets up, I can comment more)

With 36 characters, there's no way. 23 characters by Dojo count. 13 others.

1) Captain Falcon
2) Luigi
3) Ganondorf
4) Mr. Game & Watch
5) Marth
6-7) Two Pokemon here. (You know it's going to get at least two, but I'm not willing to comment on the whole Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Lucario, ect debate)
8) Krystal
9) New Zelda Rep (Again, don't want to get into exactly who, but I'm betting on WW Link)
10) Ridley
11) Olimar
12) AC rep
13) Third Party # 3

Now of course, there's a chance that some of those aren't going to get in at all, right? Of course. There's no way to tell for sure. But is there someone there that you really think K. Rool has precidence over? (Heck, you could probably add some other stuff like a Mii, another Mario rep, a new franchise character, surprise retro character, ect)

Also, Sakurai doesn't talk through pod casts. You can have people reporting a Famitsu report of a Korean magazine with confirmed mistranslations, but that doesn't count as Sakurai.

Alright, I dont honestly think AC is getting a rep, despite what the icon theory says. It wouldnt make sense.

We also dont even know if were getting a #3 Third Party, despite all hopes.

I also dont think Zelda will receive another rep, as much as it pains me, I love Zelda, but we already have the big 3. (or will, when Ganondorf shows up.)

I just think, that K. Rool ought to get in, and really does have high chances. Sure, I agree with Hippo, since rare left, the DK games have been sub par, but this might be a plus, why not bring back the antagonist of the series for nostalgic purposes?

Hes got a hell of alot of moveset potential, costumes, and everything.

His SSE story would make sense (He and Bowser switched postitions to attack eachother's hero, since DK doesnt kknow how to deal with Bowser, and Mario doesnt know how to handle K. Rool.

I ont think Marth is coming back, because I think Ike is his replacement, despite what everyone says. I liked Marth, but I dont see him returning.

I mean sure, if you make one more spot on your list and slide K. Rool in, who else would fit? The point Im trying to make, is there really isnt anyone else.

 

[Hippochinfat]

G&W is in, Marth is probably in, Zelda and AC are highly doubtful. and 36 seems a very conservative estimate at this point.

I doubt Marth will be in. Think about it, 2 blue haired swordsman from the same series. 36 just seems ridiculous there's gonna be so much more.

 

[kackamee]

G&W is in, Marth is probably in, Zelda and AC are highly doubtful. and 36 seems a very conservative estimate at this point.

I really think G& W is out I want to think Marth is in but it's too hard

 

[Pieman0920]

X out, marth,G&W new zelda rep, possibly AC rep, and still you can't confirm 36 so K.Rool can definatly replace one of those.

Well Marth's pretty much the face of FE, but I guess he can get knocked out. Still higher than K. Rool though. The Zelda rep is more for the status quo, since in the past it had four characters, and it'd be silly if it went down, or ignored its WW history. Still, that is a bit iffy. The AC rep is also a bit iffy, but in terms of importance overall (seeing AC's sucess, and the fact that say the AC human would be the main and first AC character) it would beat out a villain with two already established representatives.

Game & Watch is basically confirmed though. =/

EDIT: Like others have said, G&W is basically confirmed by the icon theory. He's also nearly the first Nintendo character.

 

[kackamee]

Alright, I dont honestly think AC is getting a rep, despite what the icon theory says. It wouldnt make sense.

We also dont even know if were getting a #3 Third Party, despite all hopes.

I also dont think Zelda will receive another rep, as much as it pains me, I love Zelda, but we already have the big 3. (or will, when Ganondorf shows up.)

I just think, that K. Rool ought to get in, and really does have high chances. Sure, I agree with Hippo, since rare left, the DK games have been sub par, but this might be a plus, why not bring back the antagonist of the series for nostalgic purposes?

Hes got a hell of alot of moveset potential, costumes, and everything.

His SSE story would make sense (He and Bowser switched postitions to attack eachother's hero, since DK doesnt kknow how to deal with Bowser, and Mario doesnt know how to handle K. Rool.

I ont think Marth is coming back, because I think Ike is his replacement, despite what everyone says. I liked Marth, but I dont see him returning.

I mean sure, if you make one more spot on your list and slide K. Rool in, who else would fit? The point Im trying to make, is there really isnt anyone else.

Yeah and plus even if all your 13 other char's got in who's to say there can't be 1 more(K. Rool)?

 

[Hippochinfat]

Well Marth's pretty much the face of FE, but I guess he can get knocked out. Still higher than K. Rool though. The Zelda rep is more for the status quo, since in the past it had four characters, and it'd be silly if it went down, or ignored its WW history. Still, that is a bit iffy. The AC rep is also a bit iffy, but in terms of importance overall (seeing AC's sucess, and the fact that say the AC human would be the main and first AC character) it would beat out a villain with two already established representatives.

Game & Watch is basically confirmed though. =/

How is game and watch basically confirmed?


Marth AND Roy are the face of FE. You know both are. Don't deny it. What's that? You're denying it? Oh? Huh? huh? What? Nachoz on new years eh?

 

[Pieman0920]

Roy isn't the face by a long shot. He certainly wasn't back in Melee, and even after the release of his game, and his cameo, he didn't really get bumped up to "the face." >_>

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How is game and watch basically confirmed?


Marth AND Roy are the face of FE. You know both are. Don't deny it. What's that? You're denying it? Oh? Huh? huh? What? Nachoz on new years eh?

We KNOW his icon is in Brawl...and if his Icon is in Brawl, then why wouldn't he be in?

 

[kackamee]

Well Marth's pretty much the face of FE, but I guess he can get knocked out. Still higher than K. Rool though. The Zelda rep is more for the status quo, since in the past it had four characters, and it'd be silly if it went down, or ignored its WW history. Still, that is a bit iffy. The AC rep is also a bit iffy, but in terms of importance overall (seeing AC's sucess, and the fact that say the AC human would be the main and first AC character) it would beat out a villain with two already established representatives.

Game & Watch is basically confirmed though. =/

EDIT: Like others have said, G&W is basically confirmed by the icon theory. He's also nearly the first Nintendo character.

AC char isn't really fighter material but I wouldn't say Marth is higher than K. Rool

 

[Hippochinfat]

Roy isn't the face by a long shot. He certainly wasn't back in Melee, and even after the release of his game, and his cameo, he didn't really get bumped up to "the face." >_>

Marth and Roy are the face of FE soley because of melee. Don't deny it.

And just because G&Ws icon is probaly in brawl that could just mean he has a stage or something.

 

[kackamee]

I really wonder if WW Link will replace young link, I would think that some char that isn't link would replace him

 

[UltiMario]

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Geno - minor character in Super Mario RPG, has showed up as a minor NPC in other games. Low chance of getting in. I'd put him up there with, say, "Tarin the cucco farmer" from the Zelda games.
*Sigh* Geno was more important in the Super Mario RPG than everyone but Mario Himself. Geno was the one that could put Star Bridge Back together, Everyone else pretty much just hung around waiting to find a Star So Geno could throw everything together..
Now that I just typede this, Geno sounds like he had a More imortant role than Mario did XD
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Knuckles - Playable character in some Sonic games. Medium chance but Tails has a better chance of making it in.
ZERO CHANCE OF MAKING IT IN. Sakurai has 1 MAYBE 2 More Slots for 3rd Party Characters, why would he waste it? Would you rater see Knuckles/Tails in Brawl instead of lets say... Megaman? NO, we want to keep our options open, not shatter our hopes and dreams for the 10 people who want 2 sonic Refs in Brawl.


Tingle - minor character in a few Zelda games. No chance of getting into Brawl whatsoever.

In the games he only did a minor role, normallty he was an *** stealing rupees. But somehow that got a HUGE fanase on it, but as I recall, there was a Tingle Trophy in an Update, which gives the chance that he is A. Playable B. An AT or C. Just a lonely Trophy.
My BEts with A or B.

MY Comments

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[kackamee]

Marth and Roy are the face of FE soley because of melee. Don't deny it.

One game can't make them the faces of FE. I really don't think FE has a face though, thats like saying FF has a face after the main prontoginast has changed so many times.

 

[Pieman0920]

Animcal Crosser has enough moves and unique traits to be a fighter. Not being a fighter in their games also doesn't really mean much considering there are other non-fighters out there.

And Marth is more important than K. Rool. As said, he's the face of FE, and has shown up in the most games, and including the upcoming DS one, will have been playable in three. (Four if you count Melee). K. Rool is just the villain though, and has two representatives of his series already, in opposition to one.

 

[Hippochinfat]

One game can't make them the faces of FE. I really don't think FE has a face though, thats like saying FF has a face after the main prontoginast has changed so many times.

I think it can. I mean fire emblem is only known in North America because of Melee.

 

[Dubyah8r]

A. Midna is not minor. She is a co-star and the best part of the best game ever, TP.
B. Skull Kid was in TP,you had to follow him around in the Hidden Forrest for like an hour. He still wont get in.
C. The name of Pit's series is Kid Icarus, and yes, he is minor.
D. you're right about Issac, Krystal and Geno
E. Whats your theory on Ridley?

 

[Hippochinfat]

Animcal Crosser has enough moves and unique traits to be a fighter. Not being a fighter in their games also doesn't really mean much considering there are other non-fighters out there.

And Marth is more important than K. Rool. As said, he's the face of FE, and has shown up in the most games, and including the upcoming DS one, will have been playable in three. (Four if you count Melee). K. Rool is just the villain though, and has two representatives of his series already, in opposition to one.

An Animal crossing character won't be in. All of them have been shown in the backround of smashville except for reseti who's an AT. And don't give me that "WELL WHEN YOU PLAY AS THEM THEY WONT SHOW IN THE BACKROUDN HAHSHSHAHAH" thing.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

A. Midna is not minor. She is a co-star and the best part of the best game ever, TP.
B. Skull Kid was in TP,you had to follow him around in the Hidden Forrest for like an hour. He still wont get in.
C. The name of Pit's series is Kid Icarus, and yes, he is minor.
D. you're right about Issac, Krystal and Geno
E. Whats your theory on Ridley?

Midna has NO more importance than Geno...

 

[Hippochinfat]

Animcal Crosser has enough moves and unique traits to be a fighter. Not being a fighter in their games also doesn't really mean much considering there are other non-fighters out there.

And Marth is more important than K. Rool. As said, he's the face of FE, and has shown up in the most games, and including the upcoming DS one, will have been playable in three. (Four if you count Melee). K. Rool is just the villain though, and has two representatives of his series already, in opposition to one.

OMG dude Marth appeared in ONE fire emblem game playable. The other 2 are just remakes of that first one.

 

[kackamee]

Animcal Crosser has enough moves and unique traits to be a fighter. Not being a fighter in their games also doesn't really mean much considering there are other non-fighters out there.

And Marth is more important than K. Rool. As said, he's the face of FE, and has shown up in the most games, and including the upcoming DS one, will have been playable in three. (Four if you count Melee). K. Rool is just the villain though, and has two representatives of his series already, in opposition to one.

AC will throw pigs at people Not really a fighter to me.
Kirby got two more reps and seeing how Sakurai wants more villans and females, makes his chances slightly greater.

 

[Dubyah8r]

One game can't make them the faces of FE. I really don't think FE has a face though, thats like saying FF has a face after the main prontoginast has changed so many times.

Marth is who people in Japan most relate to Fire Emblem, sorta like a lot of people do with Cloud and FF, he really put that franchise on the map

 

[Dubyah8r]

Midna has NO more importance than Geno...

a lot more people own TP than do Mario RPG

 

[Hippochinfat]

Midna has NO more importance than Geno...

Yes she does. Zelda twilight princess was ALOT more sucessful than Super mario RPG.

 

[NessOnett]

OMG dude Marth appeared in ONE fire emblem game playable. The other 2 are just remakes of that first one.

learn your FE history, Marth appeared in two(one of which was the original)...only the third is a remake(and a updated one at that)

besides, popularity wise he is the most well-liked of any of the lords in the series.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

a lot more people own TP than do Mario RPG

Yes she does. Zelda twilight princess was ALOT more sucessful than Super mario RPG. She's alot more popular, to.

Midna's role in the game is practically the same thing as Geno. The only difference is when the game came out. She has no more importance in the plot

 

[Hippochinfat]

learn your FE history, Marth appeared in two(one of which was the original)...only the third is a remake(and a updated one at that)

besides, popularity wise he is the most well-liked of any of the lords in the series.

Fire emblem DS is a remake.


Besides Roy is probaly the most popular lord since alot more people liked him in melee then they did Marth. Yeah I know tournament people like him more but you have to admit casuals like him more, and most melee players play it casually.

 

[Hippochinfat]

Midna's role in the game is practically the same thing as Geno. The only difference is when the game came out. She has no more importance in the plot

Yea. I know. I thought you were saying that as a Nintendo character she was just as important as Geno.

 

[kackamee]

I bet if Nintendo or Square Enix(or whoever) remade SMRPG it'd do alot better this time around because of the new generation of consoles and how t could be remade

 

[Hippochinfat]

I bet if Nintendo or Square Enix(or whoever) remade SMRPG it'd do alot better this time around because of the new generation of consoles and how t could be remade

Duh. The main reason Mario RPG didn't do well was because of the playstation having come out and N64 coming out very soon.

 

[kackamee]

Duh. The main reason Mario RPG didn't do well was because of the playstation having come out and N64 coming out very soon.

Yeah so I think if he did get in I bet it would be a reference to a new Geno/Mallow game coming out

 

[The_Corax_King]

I agree that krystal is almost guaranteed to be in brawl...

And Ike only stars in 2 out of 10 fire emblem games... and really co-stars in one of those with Micaiah...

 

[kackamee]

This thread is going dead so i'm going to a new one

 

[Hippochinfat]

Heracross should be in brawl.

 

[ricydafrog]

isn't the piont of smashbros. to have it's ALL STARS battling it out. If that's so i don't think i minor character like Geno should have access especially if he's taking up the remaining 3rd party slot (which in a buisiness sense is used to attract new people to the franchise- someone no ones heard outside the closed circle of smash fans won't do)

 

[Heretique]

You couldn't be more wrong.

In fact, I'd say Shiek is more minor of a character than Geno.

Have you even played SMRPG?

Oh, and Pit is from Kid Icarus (do some research why don't cha!)

 

[The Noob Legend]

You couldn't be more wrong.

In fact, I'd say Shiek is more minor of a character than Geno.

Have you even played SMRPG?

Oh, and Pit is from Kid Icarus (do some research why don't cha!)

I know.

But Sheik is PART of a MAJOR character.
So, calling her minor isn't going to help you.
Unless of course, you are speaking of the character individually.

Geno is a secondary character to Mario in the RPG, so he's major in one game.
Not a series.

For example, Captain Olimar is the main protagonist in both Pikmin games (The SERIES)

Spoiler

Olimar Owns

 

[shadenexus18]

What's this, another non believer reveals himself and makes another "Geno won't get in Brawl" thread? Pfft...figures. Look, he's probably the most popular gaming character ever and he's only been in 2 games. That and he has a gargantious fanbase that want him back in another game, namly Brawl. Oh he'll get in, and then you'll realize how pointless it was to make this thread.

 

[Heretique]

I know.

But Sheik is PART of a MAJOR character.
So, calling her minor isn't going to help you.
Unless of course, you are speaking of the character individually.

Geno is a secondary character to Mario in the RPG, so he's major in one game.
Not a series.

For example, Captain Olimar is the main protagonist in both Pikmin games (The SERIES)

Spoiler

Olimar Owns

Then I could say Geno is PART of a major character too, if not so literally. Mario and Peach. And at least you get to play Mario; you don't even play Shiek, and she gets much less screen time.

And by the way, guys, stop talking about SMRPG as if it did horribly. It didn't. It was a fantastic game, and the public AND critics loved it.

Straight from Wiki: "Japanese audiences also received Super Mario RPG well with 1.47 million copies sold, making it the third best selling game in Japan in 1996."