Sorry kids, here's why Geno won't get in. The good news? Krystal might.

[MarthTrinity]

Ike - Star character (I think) in Fire Emblem games.
Marth - Lead character in Fire Emblem Games (I think).

Geno - minor character in Super Mario RPG, has showed up as a minor NPC in other games. Low chance of getting in. I'd put him up there with, say, "Tarin the cucco farmer" from the Zelda games.

Captain K. Rool - Major enemy of Donkey Kong. Stands a good chance of getting in. However, in the SSE video it showed a koopa stealing DK's bananas which slightly diminishes the chances of K.Rool's appearance, but we'll have to see.

Ike is a "star character" but Marth is a "lead character?" That's NO good...

Geno can attack. Geno was in THE BEST Mario RPG (better than Paper and M&L). He was a MAJOR character in the game (even though he technically was a side character).

K. Rool's chances haven't diminished in the slightest because of Bowser stealing DK's bananas...I mean...the SSE has characters from different games interacting in different ways with many characters who they normally don't...K. Rool could interact with anyone else...not just DK.

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

K. Rool's chances haven't diminished in the slightest because of Bowser stealing DK's bananas...I mean...the SSE has characters from different games interacting in different ways with many characters who they normally don't...K. Rool could interact with anyone else...not just DK.

Example being the cannonball that nailed Mario in the face in SSE

 

[MarthTrinity]

Example being the cannonball that nailed Mario in the face in SSE

You are SO awesome for that XD (And I really hope you're right ^^)

 

[The_Corax_King]

....

No. Just, no. Seriously, what goes on in your head while posting this crap?

<3 <3 <3

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Geno was TIED with IKE, DIDDY, and RIDLEY for the second most wanted character, Dedede was first.

Minor character in his game? Play the game first.

EDIT: Wasn't Krystal already confirmed to be in the game?

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

Geno was TIED with IKE, DIDDY, and RIDLEY for the second most wanted character, Dedede was first.

Minor character in his game? Play the game first.

EDIT: Wasn't Krystal already confirmed to be in the game?

I think the most wanted was Sonic

 

[Machspeed]

As far as the SSE video, who else would want to steal Donkey Kong's banana horde?
K. Rool could've realized he couldn't beat Donkey Kong, and Bowser could've realized he couldn't beat Mario. Do I hear a switch-villain thing going on?

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

As far as the SSE video, who else would want to steal Donkey Kong's banana horde?
K. Rool could've realized he couldn't beat Donkey Kong, and Bowser could've realized he couldn't beat Mario. Do I hear a switch-villain thing going on?

May I repoint out something. CANNONBALL! Cmon, who's known for the cannonball *points*

 

[The Qu]

Geno was TIED with IKE, DIDDY, and RIDLEY for the second most wanted character, Dedede was first.

Minor character in his game? Play the game first.

EDIT: Wasn't Krystal already confirmed to be in the game?

Her voice actress confirmed that she was voicing her in Brawl. It was then taken off her web site. So she's in in some way, but we don't know how.
And I hope Geno is in. That was an awesome game!

 

[Fatmanonice]

Here's how I see it
1. Mario
2. Bowser
3. Peach
4. Luigi
5. Bowser Jr.
6. Geno
This wouldn't surprise me at all if these were all the confirmed Mario characters.

What was said right here isn't unreasonable at all. Think about; Mario is Nintendo's biggest and most important franchise and thus had the most characters in Melee with 5 reps (Mario, Dr. Mario, Peach, Bowser, and Luigi.) Dr. Mario is pretty much guarenteed gone because the other two "super clones" (Roy and Pichu, as I call them) have been shot down by other updates (Ike now has Roy's ALTS and Pikachu has Pichu's, for example) and the second trailer showed that many of Dr. Mario's attack effects (directional influence, power, etc) have been intregrated into Mario's. This leaves a spot to fill and the main people in running are Bowser Jr (despite being knocked down by multiple factors brought up by several updates), Geno, and Paper Mario. When this spot is filled it gives the Mario franchise 5 characters once again.

Now, remember how I said that the Mario franchise is basically sets the high bar? Currently, the Mario franchise has 3 reps with Mario, Peach, and Bowser and Luigi is obviously going to return so that gives it 4. Every nonunlockable franchise (except Yoshi, of course) that has only had one rep from the get-go since the original has been given at least one new rep: Pokemon: Pokemon Trainer, Kirby: Metaknight and King Dedede, Metroid: Zero Suit Samus, DK: Diddy Kong and if the holes theory is correct, Star Fox: Krystal. Because of this, the bar has naturally been raised and to point this out even more, because of the Pokemon Trainer, Pokemon already technically has 4 reps. Now, unless both Jigglypuff and Metwo are given the boot, Pokemon's fighter count will probably be six because it'd be foolish to say that the franchise won't have at least one unlockable newcomer *coughlucariocough*. Even if this does turn out to be the case, the pokemon franchise would end up with a minimum of 5 reps.

Because of the high bar I mentioned, the Mario franchise would have to go over (or meet) this amount. 5+1=6, ZOMG, astounding! This would line up with the equilibrium that Melee established: Mario: 5 reps, Pokemon: 4 reps, Zelda: 4 reps. This would also make sense because, both in sales and in number of games, this lines up perfectly (at least for Mario and Pokemon because Kirby has the third most games of any Nintendo franchise but is behind Zelda in sales). So, in the end, you'd have one person replacing Dr. Mario and one newcomer added with no strings attached and all is well in the world.

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

What was said right here isn't unreasonable at all. Think about; Mario is Nintendo's biggest and most important franchise and thus had the most characters in Melee with 5 reps (Mario, Dr. Mario, Peach, Bowser, and Luigi.) Dr. Mario is pretty much guarenteed gone because the other two "super clones" (Roy and Pichu, as I call them) have been shot down by other updates (Ike now has Roy's ALTS and Pikachu has Pichu's, for example) and the second trailer showed that many of Dr. Mario's attack effects (directional influence, power, etc) have been intregrated into Mario's. This leaves a spot to fill and the main people in running are Bowser Jr (despite being knocked down by multiple factors brought up by several updates), Geno, and Paper Mario. When this spot is filled it gives the Mario franchise 5 characters once again.

Now, remember how I said that the Mario franchise is basically sets the high bar? Currently, the Mario franchise has 3 reps with Mario, Peach, and Bowser and Luigi is obviously going to return so that gives it 4. Every nonunlockable franchise (except Yoshi, of course) that has only had one rep from the get-go since the original has been given at least one new rep: Pokemon: Pokemon Trainer, Kirby: Metaknight and King Dedede, Metroid: Zero Suit Samus, DK: Diddy Kong and if the holes theory is correct, Star Fox: Krystal. Because of this, the bar has naturally been raised and to point this out even more, because of the Pokemon Trainer, Pokemon already technically has 4 reps. Now, unless both Jigglypuff and Metwo are given the boot, Pokemon's fighter count will probably be six because it'd be foolish to say that the franchise won't have at least one unlockable newcomer *coughlucariocough*. Even if this does turn out to be the case, the pokemon franchise would end up with a minimum of 5 reps.

Because of the high bar I mentioned, the Mario franchise would have to go over (or meet) this amount. 5+1=6, ZOMG, astounding! This would line up with the equilibrium that Melee established: Mario: 5 reps, Pokemon: 4 reps, Zelda: 4 reps. This would also make sense because, both in sales and in number of games, this lines up perfectly (at least for Mario and Pokemon because Kirby has the third most games of any Nintendo franchise but is behind Zelda in sales). So, in the end, you'd have one person replacing Dr. Mario and one newcomer added with no strings attached and all is well in the world.

Thank you for agreeing.

 

[Hippochinfat]

Geno was TIED with IKE, DIDDY, and RIDLEY for the second most wanted character, Dedede was first.

Minor character in his game? Play the game first.

EDIT: Wasn't Krystal already confirmed to be in the game?

That poll had barely any people voting on it.

I mean Ike, Geno, Diddy and Ridley were tied for 2nd with 4 votes for each of them.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That poll had barely any people voting on it.

I mean Ike, Geno, Diddy and Ridley were tied for 2nd with 4 votes for each of them.

...I don't think you understand the poll at all

 

[Hippochinfat]

What was said right here isn't unreasonable at all. Think about; Mario is Nintendo's biggest and most important franchise and thus had the most characters in Melee with 5 reps (Mario, Dr. Mario, Peach, Bowser, and Luigi.) Dr. Mario is pretty much guarenteed gone because the other two "super clones" (Roy and Pichu, as I call them) have been shot down by other updates (Ike now has Roy's ALTS and Pikachu has Pichu's, for example) and the second trailer showed that many of Dr. Mario's attack effects (directional influence, power, etc) have been intregrated into Mario's. This leaves a spot to fill and the main people in running are Bowser Jr (despite being knocked down by multiple factors brought up by several updates), Geno, and Paper Mario. When this spot is filled it gives the Mario franchise 5 characters once again.

Now, remember how I said that the Mario franchise is basically sets the high bar? Currently, the Mario franchise has 3 reps with Mario, Peach, and Bowser and Luigi is obviously going to return so that gives it 4. Every nonunlockable franchise (except Yoshi, of course) that has only had one rep from the get-go since the original has been given at least one new rep: Pokemon: Pokemon Trainer, Kirby: Metaknight and King Dedede, Metroid: Zero Suit Samus, DK: Diddy Kong and if the holes theory is correct, Star Fox: Krystal. Because of this, the bar has naturally been raised and to point this out even more, because of the Pokemon Trainer, Pokemon already technically has 4 reps. Now, unless both Jigglypuff and Metwo are given the boot, Pokemon's fighter count will probably be six because it'd be foolish to say that the franchise won't have at least one unlockable newcomer *coughlucariocough*. Even if this does turn out to be the case, the pokemon franchise would end up with a minimum of 5 reps.

Because of the high bar I mentioned, the Mario franchise would have to go over (or meet) this amount. 5+1=6, ZOMG, astounding! This would line up with the equilibrium that Melee established: Mario: 5 reps, Pokemon: 4 reps, Zelda: 4 reps. This would also make sense because, both in sales and in number of games, this lines up perfectly (at least for Mario and Pokemon because Kirby has the third most games of any Nintendo franchise but is behind Zelda in sales). So, in the end, you'd have one person replacing Dr. Mario and one newcomer added with no strings attached and all is well in the world.

OH MY GOD IT'S FATMANONICE.

 

[Fatmanonice]

...I don't think you understand the poll at all

No he doesn't and most people who argue againist Geno usually don't.

Hippochinfat (your screenname's hilarious by the way), the 290 entries that appeared in Sakurai's journal were the 290 that interested/amused Sakurai and his staff the most over a period of about a month. Despite being in Japanese, the poll was open to the world and it is estimated that at least 10,000 submissions were entered into the poll with an average of 333 being sent in a day. Of those 333 each day, Sakurai and his staff chose 10 and posted them on the Japanese Dojo site. Does that clear things up?

 

[Magically Enhanced Hobo]

That poll had barely any people voting on it.

I mean Ike, Geno, Diddy and Ridley were tied for 2nd with 4 votes for each of them.

It wasn't a poll. It was simply how many times each character's name was mentioned in suggestion letters to Sakurai. And they weren't even character suggestion letters, because they could have recommended music, stages, etc.

The actual poll probably won't be revealed until after release. Nevertheless, it does seem to line up with who is in the game, so don't be surprised to see Geno.

 

[T-major]

Star Wolf - minor enemy of Fox in early Star Fox games. Showed up as a minor character in Assault as well. Medium chance of getting in, only since there aren't many SF games.

Krystal - major character in more recent Star Fox games. Good chance of replacing Falco.

first off, his name is WOLF O'DONNELL!! NOT STAR WOLF! Star Wolf is the name of his team. so, right off the bat, It's obvious that you know hardly nothing about the character. if you did, you would know that he has a MUCH larger role than Krystal, who's biggest role was playing the part of a magic rock (I'm reffering to Adventures; where all she did was get captured, give Fox a boner, then serve as a means of reviving Andross; which is a job that could have EASILY been handled by a magical rock or idol or something...)

Wolf, on the other hand, is a recurring antagonist, and personal rival of Fox. he has a back story that shows that he used to be best friends with Fox back when they were in flight combat training, but Fox did something that cause Wolf to lose his eye, which caused his current hate for Fox. in Starfox 64, Wolf's squad, Star Wolf, was hired by Andross to stop Team Star Fox; this gives him a large part in the plot of the game. then in Assault, he saves Fox's life after the Aparoids invade (he does this because he wants to Kill Fox himself). in Star Fox Command, Krystal joins Star Wolf after Fox kicks her out of Star Fox. there's also an ending in the game where Wolf is the hero.

as you can see, Wolf is WAY more than just a "minor enemy". he's a major secondary antagonist. Krystal is just a love interest. she serves no more purpose than the rest of the members of Star Fox, if not less. the rest of the members actually do something constructive in more recent games. Slippy made the translator thing in adventures, which is the whole reason that Fox could understand the dinosaurs on the planet. even Falco, a character that wasn't even IN Adventures until the last five minutes, does more than Krystal did. Falco shows up and saves Fox's life; Krystal gets trapped in a crystal (I C WUT THEY DID THAR!) and because a magic rock. see the difference?

also, why the hell does Krystal need to replace Falco? they can both be in you know. if anyone is replacing Falco, it's Wolf.

Tingle - minor character in a few Zelda games. No chance of getting into Brawl whatsoever.

more idiocy... why am I not surprised? Tingle served a big role in Wind Waker. he translated your Triforce maps so you could find the pieces of the Triforce; which is a major part of the games plot.

he's also the only character besides link to be playable... ever. he has TWO spin-off games... why would a minor character with no purpose get TWO spin off games, when they could have made them star Zelda or Ganondorf or someone? and where you want to believe it or not, Tigle is SUPER POPULAR in Japan. and I'm not just talking about Zelda characters. he's popular IN GENERAL! out off all characters, he's popular...

so yeah... you fail.

 

[SolidSonic]

It was a best selling game for such long time and is stillknowas one of the best RPG's to date

Really? I guess you mean one of the best RPG's for a Nintendo console, the story seems pretty mediocre from the clips I've seen.

 

[Viscano]

If Pichu isn't a minor character, I don't know who is.

 

[Machspeed]

Really? I guess you mean one of the best RPG's for a Nintendo console, the story seems pretty mediocre from the clips I've seen.

From the CLIPS you've seen.
Don't judge a book by it's cover, meaning if you haven't played it, you can't assume if it's bad or good.

 

[Hippochinfat]

No he doesn't and most people who argue againist Geno usually don't.

Hippochinfat (your screenname's hilarious by the way), the 290 entries that appeared in Sakurai's journal were the 290 that interested/amused Sakurai and his staff the most over a period of about a month. Despite being in Japanese, the poll was open to the world and it is estimated that at least 10,000 submissions were entered into the poll with an average of 333 being sent in a day. Of those 333 each day, Sakurai and his staff chose 10 and posted them on the Japanese Dojo site. Does that clear things up?

Oh, I get it now. Thanks.

I don't really hate Geno I just doubt he'll be in.

 

[shadenexus18]

You're really high or something, even Master Chief is more popular than Geno and he will never get his own series, he is NOT that popular, when will you people learn?

Sakurai's interest =/= Popularity

Geno is very popular in Japan, but around here all he has is a cult fanbase, like Skull Kid, he is far from being the most popular character in gaming history, you're ******** if you believe that, stop looking at the number of posts the threads here have to draw conclusions like that.

Says you. Just like your precious Earthbound bro and Custom Robo, it could be released in Japan first. If all goes well and they think that Geno's game could sell in the good ol U.S., then who knows, in a year or two after Geno's confirmation on Brawl, we might see him in his own game.

 

[Hippochinfat]

If Pichu isn't a minor character, I don't know who is.

Pichu is a god, thus he should be treated like one.

 

[Mini Mic]

Geno can attack. Geno was in THE BEST Mario RPG (better than Paper and M&L). He was a MAJOR character in the game (even though he technically was a side character).

Opinion that has no weight as an actual argument (though I agree it was the best one)

 

[RyuDragonKing]

Canon as in the trademark Mario games.



Dedede was number 1, ridley was about number 4 or 5.

Numbers 2, 3, 4, and 5 were ties. Dedede beat them.

Seriously though, did TC actually think this was a good idea to post this? All it's doing is angering people.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Pichu is a god, thus he should be treated like one.

...are you Black Oblivion from Nsider by any chance?

 

[Masky64]

Dude, Geno was the second most important character in Super Mario RPG, behind Mario, Krystal was the second most important character in Star Fox Adventures, behind Fox. They both have an equal chance of making it in, now since Megaman is out.

Nintendo has yet to put a minor character from any game in. That's why. Let's take a look at all the characters released in any smash game so far. Every single one of them was major in some way. Sorry guys, but a character who played a tiny part in a small game isn't going to have much of a chance of getting in.


Bowser - One of Mario's main enemies. Appears in nearly every Mario game.
Captain Falcon - One of the first unlockables in F-Zero games, main character of TV show.
Diddy Kong - Star character in many DK games. Plays a big part in storylines.
Donkey Kong - Main character of DK games.
Dr. Mario - Dr. Mario series of games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Falco - Consistent character in Star Fox games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Fox - Main character of the Star Fox games.
Ganondorf - Main enemy of Link in Zelda games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Ice Climbers - Star characters of classic "Ice Climber" Nintendo games.
Ike - Star character (I think) in Fire Emblem games.
Jigglypuff - Nintendo uses Jigglypuff a lot (popular character in Pokemon series).
King Dedede - One of Kirby's main enemies.
Kirby - Main character of "Kirby's Dreamland" series.
Link - Main character of "Legend of Zelda" series.
Lucas - Main character in newer "Earthbound" games.
Luigi - Main character in many Mario games.
Mario - No **** sherlock
Marth - Lead character in Fire Emblem Games (I think).
Meta Knight - Another one of Kirby's main enemies, appears in most Kirby games.
Mewtwo - Hardest pokemon to get in early games, lead villain in many movies/TV show.
Mr. Game & Watch - Classic nintendo character, star of the "Game and Watch arcade" series.
Ness - Star of early "Earthbound" games.
Peach - Consistent lead character in "Mario" series.
Pichu - Cute little guy, this pokemon was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Pikachu - One of the main characters on the TV show, in Pokemon yellow version.
Pit - Main character of whatever series it is he's in.
Pokémon Trainer - Main character in every pokemon game.
Roy - See Marth
Samus - Main character of Metroid series.
Sheik - Goes along with "Zelda" character.
Snake - Main character of "Metal Gear Solid" series.
Sonic - Main character of "Sonic the Hedgehog" series.
Wario - Main character of "Wario" series.
Yoshi - Consistent character in Mario games.
Young Link - Cute little guy, this boy was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Zelda - Important character in almost every "Legend of Zelda" game.
Zero Suit Samus - See shiek, goes along with "Samus" character.


Now let's look at some requests.

Midna (Twilight Princess) - played a medium role in ONE "Zelda" game. Not a very good chance of getting in. Not any better than any other medium zelda character (The Wind Fish, for example)

Captain Olimar - very good chance of getting in. Star character of new nintendo series "Pikmin".

Geno - minor character in Super Mario RPG, has showed up as a minor NPC in other games. Low chance of getting in. I'd put him up there with, say, "Tarin the cucco farmer" from the Zelda games.

Star Wolf - minor enemy of Fox in early Star Fox games. Showed up as a minor character in Assault as well. Medium chance of getting in, only since there aren't many SF games.

Skull Kid - Extremely minor character in Zelda Oot, played a slightly larger role in MM, hasn't been seen since. Chance of getting in: Next to none.

Captain K. Rool - Major enemy of Donkey Kong. Stands a good chance of getting in. However, in the SSE video it showed a koopa stealing DK's bananas which slightly diminishes the chances of K.Rool's appearance, but we'll have to see.

Knuckles - Playable character in some Sonic games. Medium chance but Tails has a better chance of making it in.

Isaac - Major character in Golden Sun series. Hopefully Sakurai will remember to put him in, I'll be surprised if he's left out.

Krystal - major character in more recent Star Fox games. Good chance of replacing Falco.

Tingle - minor character in a few Zelda games. No chance of getting into Brawl whatsoever.

 

[Hippochinfat]

...are you Black Oblivion from Nsider by any chance?

Nope.

10char

 

[Fatmanonice]

Nope.

10char

10 letters? Hmm... well, you know who I am so we've must have run into each other either on Nsider, You Tube, IGN or Game FAQs...

 

[TheMastermind]

There are actually a number of facts that go against Geno Makeing it into the game.

There were supposed to be only 2 or 3 3rd party slots. Geno IS NOT owned by nintendo in any way.
They have the rights to nothing except the game in which Geno appeared in.
Snake, Megaman, Sonic are the 3 3rd partys that will most likely be there.

But some hold out hope that Geno can be considered a 2nd and a half party character.
Which is fine actually. BUT There are a number of characters that are more deserveing to be in the game.
By More deserveing I mean the characters have been in more popular better selling games than Geno.
i have already listed over 40 characters that would be put into the game over Geno for this exact reason.
I'll list the characters again if you would like.

PsycoIncarnate himself said there would be 34-40 characters. Being really optimistic if there were 40 characters, that would mean he should be really optimistic for Geno to make it over a "More deserveing character"

Even small characters like Birdo and Bowser Jr. are far more deserveing than geno.
They have both been in More popular better selling games. And they have been in alot more than 2 games. Every single character that is more popular than Birdo and Bowser Jr has alot more of a chance
than Geno. Thats close to 50+

Then if you want to ignore those facts and just keep bringing up the poll over and over.
The poll was done not only to find playable characters but it was also done to find assist trophys
and Pokeballs and other information. Nintendo was going to make characters like
Link's Uncle (A Link to the Past) Dr. Wright (Sim City)
Blue Virus (Dr. Mario) Muddy (Mole Mania)
Poo (Earthbound) Paula (Earthbound)
Cheer Squad (Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!)

Playable characters, Nintendo knew that Geno wasnt as popular as 50 other characters they should put in.
So they put Geno in to see if he should be an assist trophy or to even see if anyone even liked him.
Many other characters were given the same fate
Jill (Drill Dozer) - AT!
Gardevoir (Pokemon) - POKEBALL!
Koopa Troopa (Mario) - ENEMY!
Petey Piranha (Mario Sunshine) - BOSS!
Little Mac (Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!!) - AT!
Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros.) - AT!

they had no intention of makeing any of those playable characters, they just wanted to see
which characters deserved the spot as an assist trophy. I personaly would really liked to have seen hamer bros as playable, but they already have to many Mario reps. They should give the spot to more deserveing characters. Nintendo Will make Geno an assist Trophy ONLY because he did well on the poll.

Thats why the only evidenceyou have is the poll when its not evidence at all.
Evidence is based on which characters are more deserveing to make it into the game.

Here is a list of characters that That are in more popular better selling games than Geno
And all of them are more deserveing to be in the gmae because of this.
Mario
Link
Pikachu
Kirby
Meta Knight
Pit
Samus/Zamus
Wario
Fox
Snake 10
Zelda/Shiek
Bowser
Donkeykong
Yoshi
Ike
Pokemon Trainer
Peach
Diddy kong
Ice climbers
Lucas 20
Sonic
King Dedede
Micaiah
Capt. Falcon
Luigi
Gannondorf
Midna
King K rule
Lucario
Mega Man 30
Claus
Krystal
Jigglypuff
Ridley
Marth
Mewtwo
Falco
Captain Olimar
Mr. Game and watch
Isaac 40
WW Link
Wolf
Black Knight
Birdo
Bowser Jr.
Ness 46
I actually have alot more that fit into the better than geno catigory

 

[Santini]

You are definitely correct on some levels. But I think there are exceptions, popularity being one. Sheik, for example, played a role similar to Geno's. She had a large role in ONE zelda game. But I believe the fact that she was such a popular character got her a spot.

You may say that Sheik got in because she is with zelda. But she is not just one of zelda's special moves, Sheik is her own character. They had to make a unique moveset, character model, animations, etc... They wouldn't of added her if she wasn't so popular.

 

[T-major]

Dude, Geno was the second most important character in Super Mario RPG, behind Mario, Krystal was the second most important character in Star Fox Adventures, behind Fox.

Krystal wasn't even CLOSE to being the second most important character in Adventures. General Scales was more important to the overall plot, so was Andross. maybe even Tricky. the plot could have VERY EASILY have been made without Krystal being in at all. she could have been replaced by a magic rock, or idol or something, seeing as the only thing she did that effected the plot was serve as a means to revive Andross.

• the Krazoa Spirits channeled themselves through Krystal to revive Andross.
• the Krazoa Spirits channeled themselves through the magic rock to revive Andross

see how easy it is?

I agree on Geno, however

They both have an equal chance of making it in, now since Megaman is out.

Megaman isn't out yet. that rumoured statment was made a while ago, so it holds no evidence at all. all it says is that Sakurai hadn't asked whats-his-face (forgot the guys name) for Megaman, back when there was still "a few months" left to make it. a few means more than one, which mean either about two or three. thats more than enough time to include Megaman at the time that statment was made.

 

[Hippochinfat]

10 letters? Hmm... well, you know who I am so we've must have run into each other either on Nsider, You Tube, IGN or Game FAQs...

I just used 10char because my post wasn't long enough to submit, lol.

Anyways my name was Foogendatch on Nsider.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

Krystal wasn't even CLOSE to being the second most important character in Adventures. General Scales was more important to the overall plot, so was Andross. maybe even Tricky. the plot could have VERY EASILY have been made without Krystal being in at all. she could have been replaced by a magic rock, or idol or something, seeing as the only thing she did that effected the plot was serve as a means to revive Andross.

• the Krazoa Spirits channeled themselves through Krystal to revive Andross.
• the Krazoa Spirits channeled themselves through the magic rock to revive Andross

see how easy it is?

I agree on Geno, however



Megaman isn't out yet. that rumoured statment was made a while ago, so it holds no evidence at all. all it says is that Sakurai hadn't asked whats-his-face (forgot the guys name) for Megaman, back when there was still "a few months" left to make it. a few means more than one, which mean either about two or three. thats more than enough time to include Megaman at the time that statment was made.

you seem to forget that it was krystal who made the distress call and brought fox to the planet in the first place. I dont think rocks can do that.

 

[Hippochinfat]

You are definitely correct on some levels. But I think there are exceptions, popularity being one. Sheik, for example, played a role similar to Geno's. She had a large role in ONE zelda game. But I believe the fact that she was such a popular character got her a spot.

You may say that Sheik got in because she is with zelda. But she is not just one of zelda's special moves, Sheik is her own character. They had to make a unique moveset, character model, animations, etc... They wouldn't of added her if she wasn't so popular.

Still, OOT was a much bigger and more popular game then Super Mario RPG.

 

[Hippochinfat]

you seem to forget that it was krystal who made the distress call and brought fox to the planet in the first place. I dont think rocks can do that.

A magical rock can.

 

[Machspeed]

The Super Mario RPG sold 1.4 million copies in Japan ALONE. 11 years ago, that was a hell of alot of numbers for a game to sell.

Geno obviously is popular if he is still being desired in video games after 11 years.

Birdo? More deserving? Birdo deserves NOTHING more than an AT, as it is just there as a boss, or playing in sports games. Doesn't really serve ANY roles. Bowser Jr., I can agree with since he's been on the rise in Mario games.

No, Geno most likely will not become an AT, simply because Nintendo approaching Square-Enix for just an AT is idiotic.

King Dedede(5) - CONFIRMED!
Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Geno(4)
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3)
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2)
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2)
Jeff(2)
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
Lucas(2) - CONFIRMED!
Mega Man(2)
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)

No, the poll isn't completely unreliable.

You cannot compare these gen systems to such an old game like the Super Mario RPG. Far more people have gotten into gaming since back then, hence more sales today. Try comparing it to games of it's time.

Popularity, as stated, and I'm sure you've seen it before, really isn't all too much of a factor when it comes to Sakurai. He could care less who's popular. Whoever fits the game the best, and whoever he and his associates show interest in, are making the cut.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

The Super Mario RPG sold 1.4 million copies in Japan ALONE. 11 years ago, that was a hell of alot of numbers for a game to sell.

Geno obviously is popular if he is still being desired in video games after 11 years.

Birdo? More deserving? Birdo deserves NOTHING more than an AT, as it is just there as a boss, or playing in sports games. Doesn't really serve ANY roles. Bowser Jr., I can agree with since he's been on the rise in Mario games.

No, Geno most likely will not become an AT, simply because Nintendo approaching Square-Enix for just an AT is idiotic.

King Dedede(5) - CONFIRMED!
Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Geno(4)
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3)
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2)
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2)
Jeff(2)
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
Lucas(2) - CONFIRMED!
Mega Man(2)
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)

No, the poll isn't completely unreliable.

You cannot compare these gen systems to such an old game like the Super Mario RPG. Far more people have gotten into gaming since back then, hence more sales today. Try comparing it to games of it's time.

Popularity, as stated, and I'm sure you've seen it before, really isn't all too much of a factor when it comes to Sakurai. He could care less who's popular. Whoever fits the game the best, and whoever he and his associates show interest in, are making the cut.

your contridicting yourself here. Your saying that geno was in a popular game and that everyone loves him so he will be in. Yet later on you say that sakauri doesnt care about popularity and that it doesnt matter. So basically what your saying is that geno is really popular but sakauri doesnt want popularity. so by the transitive property you dont think geno will be in brawl

hehe see what i did there

 

[Machspeed]

your contridicting yourself here. Your saying that geno was in a popular game and that everyone loves him so he will be in. Yet later on you say that sakauri doesnt care about popularity and that it doesnt matter. So basically what your saying is that geno is really popular but sakauri doesnt want popularity. so by the transitive property you dont think geno will be in brawl

hehe see what i did there

I said it wasn't TOO MUCH of a factor. Nice try at out-smarting though.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

you cant use contradicting arguments you gotta pick one and stick to your guns.