Sorry kids, here's why Geno won't get in. The good news? Krystal might.

[Wolfgang457]

You clearly don't know what your're talking about for some of these. For one thing you don't seem to know jack about FE so how do you know Marth, Roy, and Ike are important? You don't do you, you just assume. Don't make assumptions and try and pass them off as fact. Especially when a lot of it is stuff you don't really know. Also the character bias you show in this thread doesn't lead people to believe you, but rather call you out on your lack of knowledge on this subject.

You do get props for the windfish reference though .

 

[Machete]

how so? Geno was both playable and the center of the plot, neither Zelda nor Peach can say that of ANY game they have been in(that i can think of). They were either damsel in distress; or a random mass character like in mario kart(or melee), in which had no real plot at all.

Being playable doesn't mean "more important". Ganondorf has never been playable in any Zelda game, but he's still one of the most important characters. Same goes with Ridley.

The mission in the most of Mario and Zelda games is to rescue Peach or Zelda. So they're the center of the plot in the WHOLE series. So, yes, they're far more important than Geno.

Ey, I'd like to see Geno in Brawl, I'm not arguing against him. But both Zelda and Peach are MUCH more important than him.

 

[Banjodorf]

Ice Climbers/Pit had ONE game. Geno had a cameo in a 2nd, but thats not the point.

His popularity would have something to do with him getting in. Besides, were expecting 36-40 characters, and even if its just thirty, what other characters could fit in besides

24. Luigi
25. Captain Falcon
(These would be 24, 25, cmon, we know theyre getting in, secret or not.

26. Captain Olimar, you said it yourself
27. Krystal (duh, shes already been confirmed pretty much, her voice actor is voicing her in brawl...)

28. K. Rool Hes Dk's Bowser, and bowser stealing Dk's bannana's doesnt mean a thing, it could just mean, and I strongly think this, that they switched, and K. Rool is attacking the mushroom kingdom, and Bowser is attacking Dk.

29. Isaac - You said it yourself.
30. Claus - Major character of mother 3, that seems to be where Sakurai is turning with the Mother characters, and since ness is out, Claus seems to be the most likely candidate.

31. Bowser Jr. Hes been in so many Mario Games lately, his inclusion is all but guaranteed, and man what a fun character he'll make.

32.Mewtwo/Lucario - One of them gets in. But which one?
33. Geno - Hes just too popular right now not to get in, plus he was high up on the poll, which seems to have an effect on characters getting in.

34. Ganondorf - How did I forget the King of Evil? Well his inclusion is almost guaranteed, so dont worry, plus hes the main villain of Zelda games, so that raises his chances a bit, but cmon, who actually thinks he wont be in?

35. Ridley - I dont think I need to say anything about him, but I will. his popularity, and his importance in the Metroid games says something for him.

36. Mr. G&W - Well, Ive been told to add him, and hey, his chances are actually pretty good. Hes got an original moveset, and hes a quirky character. He was also the character that gave Nintendo it's beginnings.

All of the afformentioned characters, well most of them, got at least 2 votes on Sakurai's poll.

Now, this is the list I came up with, now, can anyone think of any other character who wold make sense to put in? (Knukles and Tails arent getting in, im sorry, and Megaman has been all but deconfirmed.)

 

[DeuceBlade]

how so? Geno was both playable and the center of the plot, neither Zelda nor Peach can say that of ANY game they have been in(that i can think of). They were either damsel in distress; or a random mass character like in mario kart(or melee), in which had no real plot at all.

Peach was playable in Mario bros 2 - and Super Princess Peach (rofloloolol)

and Geno will never be as noticeable, popular, or important as peach and zelda. imo.

 

[kackamee]

I'm kinda glad that the poll was japan-only(i think) because if i went to other countries, lucas probably wouldn't have got two

 

[NessOnett]

Ice Climbers/Pit had ONE game. Geno had a cameo in a 2nd, but thats not the point.

His popularity would have something to do with him getting in. Besides, were expecting 36-40 characters, and even if its just thirty, what other characters could fit in besides

24. Luigi
25. Captain Falcon
(These would be 24, 25, cmon, we know theyre getting in, secret or not.

26. Captain Olimar, you said it yourself
27. Krystal (duh, shes already been confirmed pretty much, her voice actor is voicing her in brawl...)

28. K. Rool Hes Dk's Bowser, and bowser stealing Dk's bannana's doesnt mean a thing, it could just mean, and I strongly think this, that they switched, and K. Rool is attacking the mushroom kingdom, and Bowser is attacking Dk.

29. Isaac - You said it yourself.
30. Claus - Major character of mother 3, that seems to be where Sakurai is turning with the Mother characters, and since ness is out, Claus seems to be the most likely candidate.

31. Bowser Jr. Hes been in so many Mario Games lately, his inclusion is all but guaranteed, and man what a fun character he'll make.

32.Mewtwo/Lucario - One of them gets in. But which one?
33. Geno - Hes just too popular right now not to get in, plus he was high up on the poll, which seems to have an effect on characters getting in.

All of the afformentioned characters, well most of them, got at least 2 votes on Sakurai's poll.

Now, this is the list I came up with, now, can anyone think of any other character who wold make sense to put in? (Knukles and Tails arent getting in, im sorry, and Megaman has been all but deconfirmed.)

I'm gonna have to point out that you blatantly forgot Ridley, Sheik, Jigglypuff, Gannondorf, Marth, G&W and(dare i say it?), Ness!(*braces for flaming*). They all have higher chances than capt. Olimar, and pretty much everyone else on that list.

 

[kackamee]

Peach was playable in Mario bros 2 - and Super Princess Peach (rofloloolol)

and Geno will never be as noticeable, popular, or important as peach and zelda. imo.

Even if, I don't think char's really have to be important to get in, but I agree Geno isn't as important as them but he was important in that ONE game. Even though SMRPG was bigger than Kid Icarus and Ice climber, so he has a fair chance

 

[Red_Maniac]

Geno was a major character in a popular Mario game, and himself is a very popular choice for Brawl. Plus, he's awesome. Why NOT put him in Brawl?

 

[kackamee]

Geno was a major character in a popular Mario game, and himself is a very popular choice for Brawl. Plus, he's awesome. Why NOT put him in Brawl?

All there is to say is: THANK YOU!!!!!!!

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm gonna have to point out that you blatantly forgot Ridley, Sheik, Jigglypuff, Gannondorf, Marth, G&W and(dare i say it?), Ness!(*braces for flaming*). They all have higher chances than capt. Olimar, and pretty much everyone else on that list.

Higher chance that Captain Olimar? I really dont think so.

I know I forgot ganondorf, and yeah, I forgot G&W, but I will add them. Ridley too.

Ness does not have a higher chance than Olimar, Olimar has extremely high chances, ness sadly has none. (Well not sadly, I was never a fan of ness, but whatever)

Marth isnt coming back, I can guarantee, and Jiggs is so very unpopular now, I'd be surprised if she came back.

 

[altir]

pit was in 2 games(one for ness and one for gb) and the ic's were in two, (ice climbers and mele)
star wolf is a major character. he has been in all starfox games save for one and is foxes rival. the same could be said of mk and kirby's relationship

 

[Cinder]

I'm gonna have to point out that you blatantly forgot Ridley, Sheik, Jigglypuff, Gannondorf, Marth, G&W and(dare i say it?), Ness!(*braces for flaming*). They all have higher chances than capt. Olimar, and pretty much everyone else on that list.

Not by much, and only 'cause they're vets...and Olimar's more likely than Ness at this point...

@Altir: don't count melee as an IC's game...we mean games apart from Smash...

 

[Machete]

Higher chance that Captain Olimar? I really dont think so.

I know I forgot ganondorf, and yeah, I forgot G&W, but I will add them. Ridley too.

Ness does not have a higher chance than Olimar, Olimar has extremely high chances, ness sadly has none. (Well not sadly, I was never a fan of ness, but whatever)

Marth isnt coming back, I can guarantee, and Jiggs is so very unpopular now, I'd be surprised if she came back.

Olimar has extremely good chances, but Ganondorf, Mr. Game & Watch, Ridley, Jigglypuff and Marth have even better chances than him.

 

[kackamee]

Higher chance that Captain Olimar? I really dont think so.

I know I forgot ganondorf, and yeah, I forgot G&W, but I will add them. Ridley too.

Ness does not have a higher chance than Olimar, Olimar has extremely high chances, ness sadly has none. (Well not sadly, I was never a fan of ness, but whatever)

Marth isnt coming back, I can guarantee, and Jiggs is so very unpopular now, I'd be surprised if she came back.

It is kinda hard to picture cptn. Olimar in brawl. It would be hard to adjust to, I'm not against him but there are alot of char's ahead of him right now in popularity and biggness, but I guess it would be kinda different to have someone like him in brawl

 

[altir]

Marth isnt coming back, I can guarantee, and Jiggs is so very unpopular now, I'd be surprised if she came back.

why would sakurai remove two fairly popular smash characters?

 

[kackamee]

Marth isnt coming back, I can guarantee, and Jiggs is so very unpopular now, I'd be surprised if she came back.

Jigglypuff is an original so shes coming back unless replaced by another PKMN like Ness, and Marth was so popular in the FE and in melee the only reason he wouldn't come back is if Ike really is his replacement

 

[Banjodorf]

It is kinda hard to picture cptn. Olimar in brawl. It would be hard to adjust to, I'm not against him but there are alot of char's ahead of him right now in popularity and biggness, but I guess it would be kinda different to have someone like him in brawl

Maybe some of the vets have better chances than him. I really dont think Jiggs does anymore, and Nes is out.

On my list, hes on top (mainly because hes my #1 pick, but also because of his chances.)

All the characters on my list ought to get in, and probably will. so even if there are people ahead of him (Ridley, Krystal, Geno, one of which we know is going to be in), his chances are still great. I know it seems hard to picture him in, but I find it hard to picture all of these characters in right now, until we actually see them.

I mean really, I think he'll be in, but I am finding it hard to picture ridley in brawl.

 

[gamer8]

Nintendo has yet to put a minor character from any game in. That's why. Let's take a look at all the characters released in any smash game so far. Every single one of them was major in some way. Sorry guys, but a character who played a tiny part in a small game isn't going to have much of a chance of getting in.


Bowser - One of Mario's main enemies. Appears in nearly every Mario game.
Captain Falcon - One of the first unlockables in F-Zero games, main character of TV show.
Diddy Kong - Star character in many DK games. Plays a big part in storylines.
Donkey Kong - Main character of DK games.
Dr. Mario - Dr. Mario series of games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Falco - Consistent character in Star Fox games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Fox - Main character of the Star Fox games.
Ganondorf - Main enemy of Link in Zelda games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Ice Climbers - Star characters of classic "Ice Climber" Nintendo games.
Ike - Star character (I think) in Fire Emblem games.
Jigglypuff - Nintendo uses Jigglypuff a lot (popular character in Pokemon series).
King Dedede - One of Kirby's main enemies.
Kirby - Main character of "Kirby's Dreamland" series.
Link - Main character of "Legend of Zelda" series.
Lucas - Main character in newer "Earthbound" games.
Luigi - Main character in many Mario games.
Mario - No **** sherlock
Marth - Lead character in Fire Emblem Games (I think).
Meta Knight - Another one of Kirby's main enemies, appears in most Kirby games.
Mewtwo - Hardest pokemon to get in early games, lead villain in many movies/TV show.
Mr. Game & Watch - Classic nintendo character, star of the "Game and Watch arcade" series.
Ness - Star of early "Earthbound" games.
Peach - Consistent lead character in "Mario" series.
Pichu - Cute little guy, this pokemon was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Pikachu - One of the main characters on the TV show, in Pokemon yellow version.
Pit - Main character of whatever series it is he's in.
Pokémon Trainer - Main character in every pokemon game.
Roy - See Marth
Samus - Main character of Metroid series.
Sheik - Goes along with "Zelda" character.
Snake - Main character of "Metal Gear Solid" series.
Sonic - Main character of "Sonic the Hedgehog" series.
Wario - Main character of "Wario" series.
Yoshi - Consistent character in Mario games.
Young Link - Cute little guy, this boy was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Zelda - Important character in almost every "Legend of Zelda" game.
Zero Suit Samus - See shiek, goes along with "Samus" character.


Now let's look at some requests.

Midna (Twilight Princess) - played a medium role in ONE "Zelda" game. Not a very good chance of getting in. Not any better than any other medium zelda character (The Wind Fish, for example)

Captain Olimar - very good chance of getting in. Star character of new nintendo series "Pikmin".

Geno - minor character in Super Mario RPG, has showed up as a minor NPC in other games. Low chance of getting in. I'd put him up there with, say, "Tarin the cucco farmer" from the Zelda games.

Star Wolf - minor enemy of Fox in early Star Fox games. Showed up as a minor character in Assault as well. Medium chance of getting in, only since there aren't many SF games.

Skull Kid - Extremely minor character in Zelda Oot, played a slightly larger role in MM, hasn't been seen since. Chance of getting in: Next to none.

Captain K. Rool - Major enemy of Donkey Kong. Stands a good chance of getting in. However, in the SSE video it showed a koopa stealing DK's bananas which slightly diminishes the chances of K.Rool's appearance, but we'll have to see.

Knuckles - Playable character in some Sonic games. Medium chance but Tails has a better chance of making it in.

Isaac - Major character in Golden Sun series. Hopefully Sakurai will remember to put him in, I'll be surprised if he's left out.

Krystal - major character in more recent Star Fox games. Good chance of replacing Falco.

Tingle - minor character in a few Zelda games. No chance of getting into Brawl whatsoever.

Lulz noob thanks for wasting your time, you're %100 wrong.

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

Higher chance that Captain Olimar? I really dont think so.

I know I forgot ganondorf, and yeah, I forgot G&W, but I will add them. Ridley too.

Ness does not have a higher chance than Olimar, Olimar has extremely high chances, ness sadly has none. (Well not sadly, I was never a fan of ness, but whatever)

Marth isnt coming back, I can guarantee, and Jiggs is so very unpopular now, I'd be surprised if she came back.

Marth has been in three Fire Emblem games, he is the first lord of the series. And about Purin, who knows, she might or she might not.

 

[Banjodorf]

Jigglypuff is an original so shes coming back unless replaced by another PKMN like Ness, and Marth was so popular in the FE and in melee the only reason he wouldn't come back is if Ike really is his replacement

Maybe youre right, and Jiggs is coming back, I dont like Jiggs, but I can deal with this. Again.

Marth may come back, or Ike is replacing him. Well see on january 24th, wont we?

 

[Mysteryfox1]

Skull kid was in four games and he didn't have a slighty better role in the story then in Ocarina of time he was the story in MM

 

[kackamee]

Maybe some of the vets have better chances than him. I really dont think Jiggs does anymore, and Nes is out.

On my list, hes on top (mainly because hes my #1 pick, but also because of his chances.)

All the characters on my list ought to get in, and probably will. so even if there are people ahead of him (Ridley, Krystal, Geno, one of which we know is going to be in), his chances are still great. I know it seems hard to picture him in, but I find it hard to picture all of these characters in right now, until we actually see them.

I mean really, I think he'll be in, but I am finding it hard to picture ridley in brawl.

I guess but it also depends on how many char's total, Sakurai's willing to put in, cause in the line of popularity he's around 8-12( correct if I'm wrong)

 

[kackamee]

The only reason why i want Riley and some other chars is because of the need for mages, females, and villians

 

[shinhed-echi]

Not everyone will get in through mere popularity alone, though.

I think some AT characters already prove that.

 

[Banjodorf]

I guess but it also depends on how many char's total, Sakurai's willing to put in, cause in the line of popularity he's around 8-12( correct if I'm wrong)

actually, he was #6, behind Ridley Krystal, Geno, Diddy and Dedede.

 

[kackamee]

Not everyone will get in through mere popularity alone, though.

I think some AT characters already prove that.

True, I forgot about AT's so alot of these char's might actually be AT's

 

[Triple_Factorial]

actually, he was #6, behind Ridley Krystal, Geno, Diddy and Dedede.

You mean #5 (can't be behind yourself), right?

 

[kackamee]

actually, he was #6, behind Ridley Krystal, Geno, Diddy and Dedede.

Oh but still, Lucas was a little low but still got in, but i could see Cptn. Olimar AND Ridley as AT's

 

[Machete]

You mean #5 (can't be behind yourself), right?

They're talking about Olimar, not Geno.

Oh, and Olimar was behind Dedede, Diddy, Ridley, Geno and Ike, not Krystal. He has 3 votes, like Krystal, Takamaru and Wind Waker Link.

 

[kackamee]

They're talking about Olimar, not Geno.

Oh, and Olimar was behind Dedede, Diddy, Ridley, Geno and Ike, not Krystal. He has 3 votes, like Krystal, Takamaru and Wind Waker Link.

Oops I got off track about Geno, but this thread is really about multiple char's

 

[NessOnett]

Oh but still, Lucas was a little low but still got in, but i could see Cptn. Olimar AND Ridley as AT's

Cpt. O is not PC worthy imo, but to make Ridley an AT only would be a major slap in the face to a lot of fans.

 

[Big-Cat]

Oh but still, Lucas was a little low but still got in, but i could see Cptn. Olimar AND Ridley as AT's

Well, even if he didn't have any votes, he still would have been in Brawl. After all, Lucas was originally planned for Melee and, supposedly, SSB. Sakurai was just waiting for MOTHER 3 to come out so he could do it.

 

[Machete]

Oh but still, Lucas was a little low but still got in, but i could see Cptn. Olimar AND Ridley as AT's

No way.

Both Olimar and Ridley are extremely popular, deserving and their series need representation.

IMO, Olimar, Ridley and (sadly) Krystal are the only shoe-ins (only talking about newcomers, of course). Geno would be the next, because he's third party.

 

[Banjodorf]

Oh but still, Lucas was a little low but still got in, but i could see Cptn. Olimar AND Ridley as AT's

Olimar as an AT? Preposterous!

I could come up with two movesets right now, without much thought, hes got too much potential to be an AT, plus, Pikmin needs a rep.

And Ridley? Ohhh good thing R. I. D. L. E. Y. is banned right now, or you might have angered very angry people..

 

[kackamee]

Cpt. O is not PC worthy imo, but to make Ridley an AT only would be a major slap in the face to a lot of fans.

Either way it's better then nothing, but as much as I want him playable I can't help thinking him as more of an AT

 

[Banjodorf]

No way.

Both Olimar and Ridley are extremely popular, deserving and their series need representation.

IMO, Olimar, Ridley and (sadly) Krystal are the only shoe-ins (only talking about newcomers, of course). Geno would be the next, because he's third party.

I dunno, I think K. Rool is almost a shoe-in.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Nintendo has yet to put a minor character from any game in. That's why. Let's take a look at all the characters released in any smash game so far. Every single one of them was major in some way. Sorry guys, but a character who played a tiny part in a small game isn't going to have much of a chance of getting in.


Bowser - One of Mario's main enemies. Appears in nearly every Mario game.Duh
Captain Falcon - One of the first unlockables in F-Zero games, main character of TV show. He was one of the original 4 racers.
Diddy Kong - Star character in many DK games. Plays a big part in storylines. I'll give you that...
Donkey Kong - Main character of DK games. OK...
Dr. Mario - Dr. Mario series of games, this character was a last-minute clone.Meh
Falco - Consistent character in Star Fox games, this character was a last-minute clone.Sakurai remarked on how he liked having Falco in Melee. He's more than consistent, he's Fox's Luigi, and one that doesn't get thrown aside that much. Sure, he leaves the team a lot, but still....
Fox - Main character of the Star Fox games. Yeah...
Ganondorf - Main enemy of Link in Zelda games, this character was a last-minute clone.Was intended as a full character at a stage of development, though.
Ice Climbers - Star characters of classic "Ice Climber" Nintendo games. More like, Nintendo GAME.
Ike - Star character (I think) in Fire Emblem games. Only appears in 2 out of 10, you can't just say "Fire Emblem games" and get away with it. At LEAST go to wikipedia, you nimwit.
Jigglypuff - Nintendo uses Jigglypuff a lot (popular character in Pokemon series). Second to Pika in Japan, yeah.
King Dedede - One of Kirby's main enemies. I'll give you that.
Kirby - Main character of "Kirby's Dreamland" series. OK...
Link - Main character of "Legend of Zelda" series. Uh huh...
Lucas - Main character in newer "Earthbound" games. He only starred in Mother 3...
Luigi - Main character in many Mario games. Yeah...
Mario - No **** sherlock For real, Watson.
Marth - Lead character in Fire Emblem Games (I think). Fire Emblem 1 and 3. If you're gonna make a thread like this at least look it up so you don't use things like "I think" and etc, which make you seem like you're full of it.
Meta Knight - Another one of Kirby's main enemies, appears in most Kirby games. Yeah.
Mewtwo - Hardest pokemon to get in early games, lead villain in many movies/TV show. Master Ball FTW. He was just there... only really a villain in the anime.
Mr. Game & Watch - Classic nintendo character, star of the "Game and Watch arcade" series. He wasn't named until Melee, but I'll be nice.
Ness - Star of early "Earthbound" games. Only Mother 2.
Peach - Consistent lead character in "Mario" series. Yeah, the girl in the other castle.
Pichu - Cute little guy, this pokemon was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make. Eh, it took like one third of the time of a character to make, not exactly 10 seconds, but I'll just think you were doing a hyperbole.
Pikachu - One of the main characters on the TV show, in Pokemon yellow version. Yeah.
Pit - Main character of whatever series it is he's in. Things like this make me go "idiot... *rolleyes*" You could at least go to ****ing wikipedia to check it up, let alone other thousands of videogames sites, but NO, you just HAVE to be an ignorant ****.
Pokémon Trainer - Main character in every pokemon game. Not every. This Trainer has been in R/B/Y/G/S/C/FR/LG but, yeah...
Roy - See Marth Only a main character of FE 6.
Samus - Main character of Metroid series. Yeah.
Sheik - Goes along with "Zelda" character. Ok... though we don't know if she's in Brawl yet.
Snake - Main character of "Metal Gear Solid" series. Yeah.
Sonic - Main character of "Sonic the Hedgehog" series. Uh huh...
Wario - Main character of "Wario" series. I'll give you that.
Yoshi - Consistent character in Mario games. Yeah, and the Yoshi series too.
Young Link - Cute little guy, this boy was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make. *sigh* I'll give you this one.
Zelda - Important character in almost every "Legend of Zelda" game. Yeah.
Zero Suit Samus - See shiek, goes along with "Samus" character. ...ok...


Now let's look at some requests.

Midna (Twilight Princess) - played a medium role in ONE "Zelda" game. Not a very good chance of getting in. Not any better than any other medium zelda character (The Wind Fish, for example) MEDIUM ROLE?!? She was a main character. As important as Link. More important than Zelda in that game, even. A title character. Idiot.

Captain Olimar - very good chance of getting in. Star character of new nintendo series "Pikmin". At least you're not a puppy killer.

Geno - minor character in Super Mario RPG, has showed up as a minor NPC in other games. Low chance of getting in. I'd put him up there with, say, "Tarin the cucco farmer" from the Zelda games. MAJOR character in SMRPG.

Star Wolf - minor enemy of Fox in early Star Fox games. Showed up as a minor character in Assault as well. Medium chance of getting in, only since there aren't many SF games. No. He rivals Fox. Not a minor enemy at all, actually.

Skull Kid - Extremely minor character in Zelda Oot, played a slightly larger role in MM, hasn't been seen since. Chance of getting in: Next to none. He was seen in a new form in TP. Yes, he did have a minor role in OoT but his role in MM was MAJOR, not "slightly larger".

Captain K. Rool - Major enemy of Donkey Kong. Stands a good chance of getting in. However, in the SSE video it showed a koopa stealing DK's bananas which slightly diminishes the chances of K.Rool's appearance, but we'll have to see. Shut up. Due to the crossover nature of the SSE K. Rool could be attacking DK later on, or not at all. He could shoe up to attack, say, MetaKnight.

Knuckles - Playable character in some Sonic games. Medium chance but Tails has a better chance of making it in. As better as Tails's chances might be, they're both a stretch.

Isaac - Major character in Golden Sun series. Hopefully Sakurai will remember to put him in, I'll be surprised if he's left out. Yeah.

Krystal - major character in more recent Star Fox games. Good chance of replacing Falco. Because we can't POSSIBLY have 3 Star Fox reps, right? That was sarcasm, idiot.

Tingle - minor character in a few Zelda games. No chance of getting into Brawl whatsoever. Tingle has 2 games, in those games he's the main character. I don't want him in Brawl though.

See kids, this is the reason why you shouldn't do threads up the top of your head, in which you also pass your opinions as fact. Even if Wikipedia is unreliable, you could do a quick check up so you don't sound like an ignorant cave man. Good day.

 

[kackamee]

Well, even if he didn't have any votes, he still would have been in Brawl. After all, Lucas was originally planned for Melee and, supposedly, SSB. Sakurai was just waiting for MOTHER 3 to come out so he could do it.

True so i guess he really doesn't count

 

[Banjodorf]

Cpt. O is not PC worthy imo, but to make Ridley an AT only would be a major slap in the face to a lot of fans.

Tell me why you dont think hes PC worthy. THe Pikmin series was another Miyamoto masterpiece series, and needs representation. Of corse, you might not have played Pikmin, and think he's just an astronaut.

It definitely deserve representation, and who better than Olimar?

 

[kackamee]

I dunno, I think K. Rool is almost a shoe-in.

I'd say K. Rool is more of a shoe-in then Ridley regardless of the poll