Sorcerer's 11 Open

[Wiisp]

Why the hell is Ranmaru such a strong read for all of you...

if I am wrong about Ranmaru, then
evaluate Kary/Raxxel, starting with Raxxel

ExLight
did you post town/mafia games in the thread for yourself?
if not, can you?

 

[Wiisp]

I want to be more confident with my read of Exlight

 

[ExLight]

did you post town/mafia games in the thread for yourself?
if not, can you?

I posted some already yea

Z25 , so me and funnier are most likely opposing alignments to you but we're the only ones in your scumlist? Where's the second scum?

 

[ExLight]

I want to be more confident with my read of Exlight

hi how can I help you

 

[funnier6]

Right now I’m in that place where I really want to think Wiisp is town cause if they’re not they’re extremely good at faking and taking of AtE and I’m okay losing to that kind of grossness at this point

Also that was a really good point about Poy voting Z and putting him at L-1 or whatever, I agree that was absolutely absolutely the stupidest possible move in the history of stupid moves to do that to a scum bud when you have no need for town cred

I know that Poy is a notorious busser but like lol that’s just really bad play,

Normally a bus can do a lot of good for a team but Sorcerors are literally there to prevent that from happening I mean like honestly

So while I won’t say it definitely didn’t happen there is definitely a really good chance that Z is just town there (or big tinfoil scum buds with Wisp I guess) so that makes the both of them look a lot better imo

Right now it’s kind of like Ran/Kary with a paranoid side of Ex and Rax in that order

I’m just paranoid about Ex in general though

Probably reply to things in the morning I really need to fix my screwed sleep schedule

 

[funnier6]

hi how can I help you

OH ONCE AGAIN HELPING OTHERS READ YOU BUT NOT ME I SEE HOW IT IS

Like seriously man this ain’t funny

 

[Z25]

I posted some already yea

Z25 , so me and funnier are most likely opposing alignments to you but we're the only ones in your scumlist? Where's the second scum?

I’m not to sure atm. I could see it being someone in my town leans like wisp or Kary , or my null, Rax, because as I said I’m still a little hesitant there but right now I don’t think I can say with full force who the second scum is as of right now without a flip. I want to try and re read the thread fully again but I don’t know when I’ll get to that. Hopefully the next day or two, but almost 50 pages is a lot to go through

 

[ExLight]

OH ONCE AGAIN HELPING OTHERS READ YOU BUT NOT ME I SEE HOW IT IS

Like seriously man this ain’t funny

I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION ALREADY
AND XIVII IS STALLING TO GIVE THE RESULTS

 

[funnier6]

I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION ALREADY
AND XIVII IS STALLING TO GIVE THE RESULTS

YOUR ANSWER WAS THAT YOU WONT ANSWER

AND I KNOW I HOPE IT MEANS HES GOT A RED

 

[Wiisp]

hi how can I help you

idk, I just want to be able to confidently build a case on you, that isnt just, "He is pure"
in the off-chance I do die

 

[Wiisp]

Funnier/Ex?
Feels like another correct tinfoil, if Renmaru is town
probably better than Kary/Raxxel

their interactions don't feel real

 

[ExLight]

tbf, I don't think there's much that helps me look better

If anything should kinda look bad because my top scumleans up to mid-end D1 were the cop and the person they cleared lmfao so I'm finding super weird some people are townreading me

I did help bringing attention to Poy tho if that means anything

 

[Wiisp]

tbf, I don't think there's much that helps me look better

If anything should kinda look bad because my top scumleans up to mid-end D1 were the cop and the person they cleared lmfao so I'm finding super weird some people are townreading me

I did help bringing attention to Poy tho if that means anything

bringing attention to Poy means nothing, since for all intent and purposes, he was a town train that flipped red
and being wrong doesnt make you a wolf

 

[ExLight]

their interactions don't feel real

he went from wanting me dead to marrying me in a few months
now we tuck each other while spamming sirfetch'd emotes
it's pretty surreal

 

[ExLight]

bringing attention to Poy means nothing, since for all intent and purposes, he was a town train that flipped red
and being wrong doesnt make you a wolf

eh, I guess
I feel like it's the most solid mechanical info you'll find based on the flip info though

 

[ExLight]

uh not mechanical info
I don't remember the word rn sorry

 

[Wiisp]

the only mechanical info that comes from that lynch is that if Xivii is real then pythag is real
Wolves didn't know he was a wolf

you can get interactions from UP towards other people
but reactions towards UP still need to be read based on their intent

 

[funnier6]

Yeah I've seen that post funnier6 and I don't see where it says you're not allowed to have a scumread on Ran.
Are you really going to give up because a single person has a different opinion to you?
You say you're being "dismissed out of hand" but you have both myself and Ranmaru asking for reads from you. We WANT you to contribute.
So I find it a little weird that you're throwing this pity party and are most concerned with pestering Exlight.

I decided to reply to things anyway

Look pal

I get that your this mafia machine that destroys people with logic and facts

But sometimes a dude is having a really bad life and he realizes that stupid mafia game hes playing is filled with a bunch of crazy people who don’t bother getting to know him and reach a bunch of wrong conclusions both about his actions as a player and his actions as person

And he just starts wondering who even cares about this stupid game anyway

I’m in a better mood now though hi sup

especially since I think Xiv is being cryptic because he has a red check and boy that’s going to be wild

Also I get that that’s you but when you clearly knew all along exactly what post I was referencing it’s really mean spirited of you to ask me just so you could say that I’m making it up

Like yes he didn’t say it in those words but he’s like the last dude I don’t know who I actually like as a person and hearing him say that really killed my spirit especially when Ex isn’t being very supportive and I’m halfway scared that’s he’s scum and I’m trapped alone in a den of people who don’t like me as a person or a player

Hence the pity party

I took it seriously yes
I mean it's either I assume you are just trying to be coy, or you voted me to try to pressure me

I think you are trying to look like you care about this game by pressuring people

And yes I did not like some of your posts towards Ex

And to your last question, maybe? I felt like solving the game? And yes maybe you poking at me was a driving force in that?

I mean

You had literally just said to vote you or stop asking questions

Knowing you had just said that I don’t understand why you thought it was a serious vote

Also I think it’s quite obvious exactly how much I care about this game lol

The truth of it is I just suck in games with people I don’t know, especially super active ones where they don’t know each other either

Im used to slower games where I can sort of control the flow of the thread and that makes it so much easier or get to know people and make reads

Which is why meta is nice

But I simultaneously am very busy and also do not care enough to delve into every last persons meta for purposes of this random game out in the middle of nowhere

Though actually I might because the poe is shrinking every second so it might only be a couple people before long

Anyway the point is I have no faith in my reads

NONE (Actually a little that point about Z was good)

My MO is behavioral analysis of many different games over long periods of time, everyone is a case study for me

This is basically my post for after I get lynched for when people scratch their heads and say “so why did he suck so much anyway?”

 

[Wiisp]

hmm I am going to work on a team that make sense in the off chance that funnier is town here

 

[funnier6]

I’m basically being a huge tsundere to Ex right now because blasted senpai won’t notice me

 

[funnier6]

hmm I am going to work on a team that make sense in the off chance that funnier is town here

For the record “I don’t understand why you thought it was a serious vote” is meant to be interpreted as a question

You say vote me or stop asking questions

I vote you and continue asking questions

You take it seriously

????

 

[Wiisp]

I mean why would I not assume a vote is serious?
votes are our strongest weapons against mafia, so why joke with them?
I do not understand what you are getting at?

 

[Wiisp]

I do not even join in during RVS, because I think its stupid
its just an easy way for wolves to enter the thread

 

[funnier6]

I mean why would I not assume a vote is serious?
votes are our strongest weapons against mafia, so why joke with them?
I do not understand what you are getting at?

Because it was literally your idea

I imagined the concept behind “vote me or stop asking questions” was that you wanted to see if I seriously cared about asking you questions

And I did

 

[Xivii]

I'm pretty sure everyone had their chance and posted in-thread at least once since the day began

Well it was just Z's I was waiting for really.

Vote: Z25

Wolf.

 

[funnier6]

Well then

That doesn’t even invalidate the town read on Wisp all that much that was an incredibly stupid play lol

Unvote

I don’t think he should be hammered for a bit, we were having some nice conversation

 

[Wiisp]

man I was really wrong about Z
*cries*

 

[funnier6]

Oh actually

that does make it absurdly unlikely that they’re both scum

It is extremely weird for both scum to come in saying the haikus are dumb, just not something that’s going to happen with 95% of scum teams

 

[Wiisp]

this dude really pushed his wolf partner to the top train...

 

[Xivii]

I haven't really been reading, but I have faith you guys can figure out the rest. If there's one thing you can trust me on, Ran is town. The meta I posted is 100% consistent. Ramaru just wouldn't play this much as scum. You can review any of his scum games here for comparison.

 

[Wiisp]

uggh am I really this wrong

 

[funnier6]

I haven't really been reading, but I have faith you guys can figure out the rest. If there's one thing you can trust me on, Ran is town. The meta I posted is 100% consistent. Ramaru just wouldn't play this much as scum. You can review any of his scum games here for comparison.

Are you not even slightly concerned that his last scum game was apparently almost three years ago?

But at this point I’m kind of willing to take your word for it

 

[Xivii]

We've played together off-site more recently. I made a case on why he was scum, then he immediately claimed I was correct. He dislikes being scum that much.

 

[funnier6]

That just leaves Ex and Rax for me basically

Hafta ISO em soon but this game feels pretty won

 

[funnier6]

We've played together off-site more recently. I made a case on why he was scum, then he immediately claimed I was correct. He dislikes being scum that much.

DANGGG

I always thought I would be that person cause I really dislike playing scum and it’s painful telling people they’re wrong when they’re not lol

 

[Wiisp]

I mean if its not you, then I need to re-evaluate this game
and if I trust Xivii's meta read on Ren, then I really dont think its him
there is no way he has the wim to put this much effort as a wolf, if he hates playing as a wolf

 

[Wiisp]

man what a boring game, this went from an interesting setup, to wolves getting destroyed...
setup's like these are just so swingy

 

[funnier6]

man what a boring game, this went from an interesting setup, to wolves getting destroyed...
setup's like these are just so swingy

It’s an extremely town sided setup lol there’s three town roles that insta clear plus a pre game check

 

[Wiisp]

ya and now I don't think funnier is a wolf...

 

[funnier6]

That just leaves Ex and Rax for me basically

Hafta ISO em soon but this game feels pretty won

It has just occurred to me that Kary also exists