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Some clarification of course
Is it not clear that I am asking you whether you took my vote on you seriously and whether your resulting attitude to me was because of it?
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Is it not clear that I am asking you whether you took my vote on you seriously and whether your resulting attitude to me was because of it?
#HBC | Kary
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Yeah I've seen that post
funnier6
and I don't see where it says you're not allowed to have a scumread on Ran. Are you really going to give up because a single person has a different opinion to you?
You say you're being "dismissed out of hand" but you have both myself and Ranmaru asking for reads from you. We WANT you to contribute.
So I find it a little weird that you're throwing this pity party and are most concerned with pestering Exlight.
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I took it seriously yes
I mean it's either I assume you are just trying to be coy, or you voted me to try to pressure me
I think you are trying to look like you care about this game by pressuring people
And yes I did not like some of your posts towards Ex
And to your last question, maybe? I felt like solving the game? And yes maybe you poking at me was a driving force in that?
I mean it's either I assume you are just trying to be coy, or you voted me to try to pressure me
I think you are trying to look like you care about this game by pressuring people
And yes I did not like some of your posts towards Ex
And to your last question, maybe? I felt like solving the game? And yes maybe you poking at me was a driving force in that?
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Re-Read
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#1529 Is a good post from Zen here.
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Overall, Wisp replaces in, says he'll read, but in his next post, focuses on asking people why he is being voted instead of reading that for himself. He doesn't seem to be very solve oriented, as he is fine with changing a like to a dislike if they agree with him. He also isn't reading closely enough. Finally, he's fine with voting Xiivi over his own scumlean. If he is waffling on Xiivi, why put him to L-1 instead of pressuring his scumlean more instead at that point? I can't seem to find anything pro-town from this slot.
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Only discusses Haiku, but did mention he didn't have any scum reads. UP keeps responding to him about it.
He does state that he doesn't usually ask as much questions. Which I guess can be part of why it seems like he was posting less?
#865 Is his response to why he is playing the way he is.
Overall, I think his earlier play wasn't as good, but it makes sense since he said that he didn't have any scum reads at that point, and in fairness to him, UP was asking and continuing the conversation when Z had nothing else to really contribute at the time. It seems the best he could do was wait until the thread developed for him to have better thoughts, which is what #660 seems to be. I do think his post voting Lore was not good, though. His posting does to seem to get better after #660, and I do like his post to Funnier at the end of the day. In Zen's #1542, he mentions Z having a contradiction with a read on Rax. It's a good point, and one I have to put Z down further in the list for. Usually if you care about your reads enough you'll remember them.
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In general, he starts catching up in his 782, and he re-votes as if he's in RVS. There was no purpose to this since he already used an rvs vote. You can divide his posting to non-content, catch up, and content. For content, which at best for him, is any post giving impressions on a player or mentioning reads, is 5. 44 is non-content. Catch up is 39. 88 Posts total for Day 1.
The best way I can describe is play is: Lack of desire to scum hunt, catch up until deadline, keep their vote on RVS the whole day phase. (Twice) Day 2 their reads are bad and they never finished their catch up, which goes along with them not really caring to catch up, and only doing so to avoid interaction in thread.
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Wisp: Overall, Wisp replaces in, says he'll read, but in his next post, focuses on asking people why he is being voted instead of reading that for himself. He doesn't seem to be very solve oriented, as he is fine with changing a like to a dislike if they agree with him. He also isn't reading closely enough. Finally, he's fine with voting Xiivi over his own scumlean. If he is waffling on Xiivi, why put him to L-1 instead of pressuring his scumlean more instead at that point? I can't seem to find anything pro-town from this slot.
Z: Overall, I think his earlier play wasn't as good, but it makes sense since he said that he didn't have any scum reads at that point, and in fairness to him, UP was asking and continuing the conversation when Z had nothing else to really contribute at the time. It seems the best he could do was wait until the thread developed for him to have better thoughts, which is what #660 seems to be. I do think his post voting Lore was not good, though. His posting does to seem to get better after #660, and I do like his post to Funnier at the end of the day. In Zen's #1542, he mentions Z having a contradiction with a read on Rax. It's a good point, and one I have to put Z down further in the list for. Usually if you care about your reads enough you'll remember them
Funny: The best way I can describe is play is: Lack of desire to scum hunt, catch up until deadline, keep their vote on RVS the whole day phase. (Twice) Day 2 their reads are bad and they never finished their catch up, which goes along with them not really caring to catch up, and only doing so to avoid interaction in thread.
Town [Xiivi > Pythag > Kary > Raxxel > Ex | Wisp > ZZ5 > Funnier] Scum
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Raxxel: Easy Question (185) Liked a post about Z but hadn't spoken up yet, had to be prompted (214) afraid to put a vote on Z (447) Reads with analysis (565), Doesn't vote Ex light after stating a strong dislike (887) Response to question isn't actually an answer but their stance on question asking. (903)
Overall, Raxxel has had quite a lack of presence. I liked their #565 for the analysis, and I still think it is effort which is a town ping. Just the rest of the play is concerning. They seem to also rarely move their vote around, which shows they aren't doing as much to progress town. I can say for them, that they do seem to have a solving mindset. Just less actions to go along with that.
Overall, Raxxel has had quite a lack of presence. I liked their #565 for the analysis, and I still think it is effort which is a town ping. Just the rest of the play is concerning. They seem to also rarely move their vote around, which shows they aren't doing as much to progress town. I can say for them, that they do seem to have a solving mindset. Just less actions to go along with that.
#379 Exlight has some non-content in the beginning as well, yet as the day progresses, he remains active, and giving his impressions on the spot. Him voting Pythag is bad for these reasons: #685 Gives a stance on Xiivi in his #1201. Another stance on UP in his #1270. Gives lynch list here: #1565
Overall, he can be illogical at times, but goes primarily on gut, and is active. He does give his stances when he can.
Overall, he can be illogical at times, but goes primarily on gut, and is active. He does give his stances when he can.
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Replaces in, states he'll re-read after work.
Big post asking why his slot is being voted, instead of focusing on reading and posting his thoughts.
Openly states he is putting Z at L-1, even though he was L-2. Not reading closely enough, and seems to be stating that openly to seem town.
Impressions of people, only one scumlean and it's on Ex, but there is no vote, and then later:
He states he likes him for a response to me. So the scum lean vanishes because he is stating something Wisp agrees with.
He mentions this, which is a good point. Yet why does he ignore that, when Ex makes a point he (Wisp) agrees with? To me, it shows he doesn't actually care to solve.
He likes Funnier because he had a town read of his slot.
His response to Z for not reading the thread.
More posts that shows that he isn't reading, because he would have known in the back of his mind that Kary had.speaking of which
#HBC | Kary
Why are you not voting you scum lean? Pozin?
Why does your vote seem to missing? did you unvote utopia?
#1529 Is a good post from Zen here.
I think this is suspicious because he votes Xiivi over his scum lean of Ex.
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Overall, Wisp replaces in, says he'll read, but in his next post, focuses on asking people why he is being voted instead of reading that for himself. He doesn't seem to be very solve oriented, as he is fine with changing a like to a dislike if they agree with him. He also isn't reading closely enough. Finally, he's fine with voting Xiivi over his own scumlean. If he is waffling on Xiivi, why put him to L-1 instead of pressuring his scumlean more instead at that point? I can't seem to find anything pro-town from this slot.
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First post
Only discusses Haiku, but did mention he didn't have any scum reads. UP keeps responding to him about it.
#660 Seems to be the point where he gets engaged and actually reads the game enough to have alright conclusions.
He does state that he doesn't usually ask as much questions. Which I guess can be part of why it seems like he was posting less?
#865 Is his response to why he is playing the way he is.
#1631 He comments on my analysis and Xiivi's.
Overall, I think his earlier play wasn't as good, but it makes sense since he said that he didn't have any scum reads at that point, and in fairness to him, UP was asking and continuing the conversation when Z had nothing else to really contribute at the time. It seems the best he could do was wait until the thread developed for him to have better thoughts, which is what #660 seems to be. I do think his post voting Lore was not good, though. His posting does to seem to get better after #660, and I do like his post to Funnier at the end of the day. In Zen's #1542, he mentions Z having a contradiction with a read on Rax. It's a good point, and one I have to put Z down further in the list for. Usually if you care about your reads enough you'll remember them.
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Non-content
#136, 186, 319, 322, 278, 283, 304, 319, 329, 332, 335, 347, 455, 456, 465, 468, 471, 472, 519 (Hasn't been posting but is active enough to notice and respond), 877, 1097, 1098, 1101, 1122, 1144, 1601
Non-content:
272, 274, 275, 322,, 873, 904 1105, 1124, 1181, 1463, 1445, 1530, 1535, 1593, 1599, 1604, 1605, 1614
Catch up from the start
782, 798, 808, 822, 830, 848, 850, 854, 859, 862, 868, 896, 1103, 1115, 1119, 1121, 1124, 1133, 1134, 1140, 1149, 1150, 1152, 1153, 1158, 1171, 1307, BLANK 31 - 33... 33 - 37, 1518, 1520, 1523 , 1526, 1564, 1572, 1574, 1575, 1577, 1608, 1613, 1618
Content
286, 458, 476 (After this post, no posts at all from page 13 to page 20), 763 BLANK 24 to 28, 1562
#136, 186, 319, 322, 278, 283, 304, 319, 329, 332, 335, 347, 455, 456, 465, 468, 471, 472, 519 (Hasn't been posting but is active enough to notice and respond), 877, 1097, 1098, 1101, 1122, 1144, 1601
Non-content:
272, 274, 275, 322,, 873, 904 1105, 1124, 1181, 1463, 1445, 1530, 1535, 1593, 1599, 1604, 1605, 1614
Catch up from the start
782, 798, 808, 822, 830, 848, 850, 854, 859, 862, 868, 896, 1103, 1115, 1119, 1121, 1124, 1133, 1134, 1140, 1149, 1150, 1152, 1153, 1158, 1171, 1307, BLANK 31 - 33... 33 - 37, 1518, 1520, 1523 , 1526, 1564, 1572, 1574, 1575, 1577, 1608, 1613, 1618
Content
286, 458, 476 (After this post, no posts at all from page 13 to page 20), 763 BLANK 24 to 28, 1562
After 476, he slows down in posting, and doesn't really do much of anything. Yet, when Ex says something about his response time, he is quick to respond with a laugh. Shows his lack of interest in scumhunting.
This seems disingenuous because there was plenty of times where he would mix up catch up with posting in current.
This is a bad post because he says this to avoid having to finish the catch up.
This post makes it seem like he was really engaged and wanted to finish his catch up, but then didn't. Where is the results to show that he really did have that enthusiasm. It's because it isn't really there.
In general, he starts catching up in his 782, and he re-votes as if he's in RVS. There was no purpose to this since he already used an rvs vote. You can divide his posting to non-content, catch up, and content. For content, which at best for him, is any post giving impressions on a player or mentioning reads, is 5. 44 is non-content. Catch up is 39. 88 Posts total for Day 1.
The best way I can describe is play is: Lack of desire to scum hunt, catch up until deadline, keep their vote on RVS the whole day phase. (Twice) Day 2 their reads are bad and they never finished their catch up, which goes along with them not really caring to catch up, and only doing so to avoid interaction in thread.
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Let us look at the final vote count. Z only moved his vote once. Funny moved his vote once and both votes were RVS. I think those are the most telling vote wise.
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Wisp: Overall, Wisp replaces in, says he'll read, but in his next post, focuses on asking people why he is being voted instead of reading that for himself. He doesn't seem to be very solve oriented, as he is fine with changing a like to a dislike if they agree with him. He also isn't reading closely enough. Finally, he's fine with voting Xiivi over his own scumlean. If he is waffling on Xiivi, why put him to L-1 instead of pressuring his scumlean more instead at that point? I can't seem to find anything pro-town from this slot.
Z: Overall, I think his earlier play wasn't as good, but it makes sense since he said that he didn't have any scum reads at that point, and in fairness to him, UP was asking and continuing the conversation when Z had nothing else to really contribute at the time. It seems the best he could do was wait until the thread developed for him to have better thoughts, which is what #660 seems to be. I do think his post voting Lore was not good, though. His posting does to seem to get better after #660, and I do like his post to Funnier at the end of the day. In Zen's #1542, he mentions Z having a contradiction with a read on Rax. It's a good point, and one I have to put Z down further in the list for. Usually if you care about your reads enough you'll remember them
Funny: The best way I can describe is play is: Lack of desire to scum hunt, catch up until deadline, keep their vote on RVS the whole day phase. (Twice) Day 2 their reads are bad and they never finished their catch up, which goes along with them not really caring to catch up, and only doing so to avoid interaction in thread.
Town [Xiivi > Pythag > Kary > Raxxel > Ex | Wisp > ZZ5 > Funnier] Scum
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Yes I can lol
I build teams to help me find wolves, if you are a wolf I don't think I'm going to find it from your posts especially after that wall, but we will see
I think you are approaching Funnier in a very buddy-like manner
I think that UP appealed to both of you
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Idk how you can say I'm not solving lol
We are both clearly trying to solve, whether we are doing that as town or wolf is another thing all together
I was fine with voting xivii because I was having a hard evaluating his thoughts, I am allowed to have an open mind, but I didn't even vote there, did I?
I wouldn't even call Kary a scum read, I thought they were a better vote than UP
Nothing pro town, you are lying to yourself
We are both clearly trying to solve, whether we are doing that as town or wolf is another thing all together
I was fine with voting xivii because I was having a hard evaluating his thoughts, I am allowed to have an open mind, but I didn't even vote there, did I?
I wouldn't even call Kary a scum read, I thought they were a better vote than UP
Nothing pro town, you are lying to yourself
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you're cute hi
I'm suspecting you because Poy asked stuff like "Are you Town?" to you which is kind of a red flag since he flipped Sorcerer
Him putting you in that N0 action despite Xivii already outting themselves is super sus too and I don't care if it's wine, it's a low risk high reward so
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when I saw "funny" in the spoiler tag I was like "oh, he ISOed funny posts, that's cute, le'see if that brightens my mood" and they ended up being a funnier ISO and I cannot convey with words how disappointed I am
where the **** is the cop check tho
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Ok I got the work I needed done for today, done; will have some more school stuff tomorrow, but should be able to provide some posts.
Anyway, making a post with some more reads now, will post when done.
Either way its best to wait. I read your earlier post though. Personally I think you should post thoughts and what not currently because who knows when Xi will post. In the meantime, we should take advantage of the day phase and keep discussion flowing.
Because reality is, the cop check could easily not change anything you post, so you might as well contribute. All discussion is good discussion if your actively discussing the game. doesn't matter if things change all of a sudden, all input is worth it.
Anyway, making a post with some more reads now, will post when done.
Well their activity is set to not show activity so who knows if xi has even been online. IF they have my guess is they got a townie, but don't see a need to post this right away. They've seemed to only be able to get on the site here and there so they may be busy irl.
Either way its best to wait. I read your earlier post though. Personally I think you should post thoughts and what not currently because who knows when Xi will post. In the meantime, we should take advantage of the day phase and keep discussion flowing.
Because reality is, the cop check could easily not change anything you post, so you might as well contribute. All discussion is good discussion if your actively discussing the game. doesn't matter if things change all of a sudden, all input is worth it.
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I can't watch Disney movies anymore without getting completely worked up. Not even 20 minutes into the live-action Lion King and I'm barely keeping it together.
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? Wrong thread? Although I'm curious worked up in a good or bad way? lol
If your here though, who did you check?
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wait, do I know you?
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Raxxel is clearly naturally evaluating Funnier here, and I like that
Wolves tend to push either way, never both
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I'm pretty hard to forget, so I don't think so
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CAN WE KNOW WHO YOU COPPED PLEASE
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I mean knowing who you are can make my read on you a lot more clean, since I can meta read a majority of the players on MC
but if you don't want to out yourself, then I guess I will think of this as a seperate game to this current mafia game
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Bulbagarden?
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nvm I guess, sometimes I forgot other sites use Xenforo
if Kary is a wolf, none of these are wolves with him, Osie is already confirmed townKary said:
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now I'm curious about your homeforum tho
what kind of site is it
I could dig some new places to play mafia
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https://www.mafiacolosseum.com/
current state of reread, think UP made some posts towards Raxxel that doesn't make me feel like Raxxel is the wolf
{Kary/Funnier/Renmaru}
is still where I am at
Xivii
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I mean good I'd say, just overwhelming. The scene where Simba and Mufasa are gazing at the stars and Simba pulls out the:
Dad, we're pals right...we'll always be pals, right?
And they're playing that heart-touching ancestral spirits score that you hear later on in the "Remember..." scene. I just can't help getting choked up...And Mufasa's not even dead yet.
I also couldn't even have a conversation earlier with my sister about Toy Story 4 without turning into a sap
Once everyone has had a chance to post their pre-result thoughts
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I'm pretty sure everyone had their chance and posted in-thread at least once since the day began
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lmao what is this question?
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I don't see it? like at all? his posting style feels the same
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Alright here's an updated reads list:
Town Lean:
wisp: Didn't know what to think of the slot at first, but they are actively participating and I get a feel from posts like that they are trying to scum hunt. There's some points to consider against them( stuff like ran's posts towards them), but I don't see their content as too scummy yet. This will probably be a stronger read one way by the end of this phase.
Kary: They've been contributing pretty well to the thread. I've gotta see more and ask them thoughts when the opportunity arises. I like stuff like their posts towards funnier, as its among the lines of thinking I have toward that slot currently. They seem to be actively scum hunting and pointing out issues they have with content. Gives me a good feeling on their slot.
Town:
ran: I've said it before, but they've been a strong slot throughout the whole game so far. Actively questioning things, as well as making sure they are constantly responded to different posts. Posts like 1828 show a strong conviction from them that feels like a townie trying to solve things by questioning behavior. It may come off a little harsh, but that doesn't mean it can't be seen as a townie play by someone with a strong read in their opinion.
pythag: Pretty self explanatory given the events so far.
xi: same as above.
Null:
rax: Their post gave good town vibes early on, especially things like their early read lists. However they' haven't contributed as largely since, so I really want to hear more from them. Their posts can be good when here, but there needs to be more activity. They are new to mafia, so I don't have enough interactions to strongly place their slot on either side based on this behavior currently however.
Scum lean:
Ex: I like some of the interactions here, but the back and forth with funnier and them leads to believe one of them is using their former experiences together to try and get by as town here in a new forum. However I think Ex is less likely between the two based on the sheer contrast in overall content between the two. Still, its possible its the opposite, so I feel this read belongs here for now. A funnier flip would make me re evaluate this slot more. Right now though it can go either way in terms of alignment.
Scum:
Funnier: Their content has been all over the place. With a lot of focus on the past not the present. While re reading a game is always helpful, constantly doing so when new information is posted just doesn't work. It makes it feel like they are just trying to seem active, but want to avoid the current topics for the most part. On top of constantly bringing Ex into stuff. And there's stuff like this:
1731
Does a reads list. Says literally nothing on ex but we need to talk. Votes ex.
1736
next post from funnier. Goes "So how do you view these people" in response to Ex asking talk about what.
Like what even is that interaction? You'd vote without any reason then carry on like it meant nothing and you want that person's opinion on your reads and vote on them because of that. This is just extremely odd behavior. Then in 1739 they say they just wanted to talk in general about things. So why would you even vote there when you could tag someone and ask, especially given their history with EX. This just baffles me and I don't see how a town plays like this. Its clear they aren't too into the game at times, making their plays comes off as anti town imo.
That's where my head is at right now. Most scummy to me is funnier, then maybe ex, and after that I'm not sure. I would look over my other reads before forming new opinions on the game at hand if the scummier ones on my reads list were town.
Town Lean:
wisp: Didn't know what to think of the slot at first, but they are actively participating and I get a feel from posts like that they are trying to scum hunt. There's some points to consider against them( stuff like ran's posts towards them), but I don't see their content as too scummy yet. This will probably be a stronger read one way by the end of this phase.
Kary: They've been contributing pretty well to the thread. I've gotta see more and ask them thoughts when the opportunity arises. I like stuff like their posts towards funnier, as its among the lines of thinking I have toward that slot currently. They seem to be actively scum hunting and pointing out issues they have with content. Gives me a good feeling on their slot.
Town:
ran: I've said it before, but they've been a strong slot throughout the whole game so far. Actively questioning things, as well as making sure they are constantly responded to different posts. Posts like 1828 show a strong conviction from them that feels like a townie trying to solve things by questioning behavior. It may come off a little harsh, but that doesn't mean it can't be seen as a townie play by someone with a strong read in their opinion.
pythag: Pretty self explanatory given the events so far.
xi: same as above.
Null:
rax: Their post gave good town vibes early on, especially things like their early read lists. However they' haven't contributed as largely since, so I really want to hear more from them. Their posts can be good when here, but there needs to be more activity. They are new to mafia, so I don't have enough interactions to strongly place their slot on either side based on this behavior currently however.
Scum lean:
Ex: I like some of the interactions here, but the back and forth with funnier and them leads to believe one of them is using their former experiences together to try and get by as town here in a new forum. However I think Ex is less likely between the two based on the sheer contrast in overall content between the two. Still, its possible its the opposite, so I feel this read belongs here for now. A funnier flip would make me re evaluate this slot more. Right now though it can go either way in terms of alignment.
Scum:
Funnier: Their content has been all over the place. With a lot of focus on the past not the present. While re reading a game is always helpful, constantly doing so when new information is posted just doesn't work. It makes it feel like they are just trying to seem active, but want to avoid the current topics for the most part. On top of constantly bringing Ex into stuff. And there's stuff like this:
1731
Does a reads list. Says literally nothing on ex but we need to talk. Votes ex.
1736
next post from funnier. Goes "So how do you view these people" in response to Ex asking talk about what.
Like what even is that interaction? You'd vote without any reason then carry on like it meant nothing and you want that person's opinion on your reads and vote on them because of that. This is just extremely odd behavior. Then in 1739 they say they just wanted to talk in general about things. So why would you even vote there when you could tag someone and ask, especially given their history with EX. This just baffles me and I don't see how a town plays like this. Its clear they aren't too into the game at times, making their plays comes off as anti town imo.
That's where my head is at right now. Most scummy to me is funnier, then maybe ex, and after that I'm not sure. I would look over my other reads before forming new opinions on the game at hand if the scummier ones on my reads list were town.
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Reread the whole thread
still think its just {Funnier, Ranmaru}
Raxxel
Kary
both of these slots don't have an agenda at all
I am not making/doing a real ISO of Ranmaru as of yet, don't feel like its needed
if this gets me voted, then w/e
I'll take this team to my grave
peace
still think its just {Funnier, Ranmaru}
Raxxel
Kary
both of these slots don't have an agenda at all
I am not making/doing a real ISO of Ranmaru as of yet, don't feel like its needed
if this gets me voted, then w/e
I'll take this team to my grave
peace
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Even if the ending for TS4 is divisive, its still pretty emotional. TS 3 will always been the most emotional ending though. Such a beautifully made film.
Anyway, sounds good. I'm interested though, why wait?