Sorcerer's 11 Open

[ranmaru]

Here's my question. What about UP, and his silence during Pythag wagon?

 

[Xivii]

Here's my question. What about UP, and his silence during Pythag wagon?

I thihnk it's a good direction to look in.

 

[Wiisp]

Why do PRs always play so bad...
This self-evaluates

 

[ExLight]

I'm Seer. Pythag was my n0 wolf clear.

Try Again.

sigh

Unvote

 

[ranmaru]

Unvote; Vote: UP

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Xivii breadcrumbs?

also why did you decide to call Pythag the sorcerer

 

[osieorb18]

UtopianPoyzin
#HBC | Kary
Xivii
Z25
Pythag
Wiisp
ExLight
funnier6
Ranmaru
Raxxel
osieorb18

I'm town, and I'm not lynching Ranmaru, Raxxel, Xivii, ExLight, funnier6, Z25, or Pythag today because they all appear town, in particular in the cases of Xivii and Pythag considering the seer claim. I'm willing to reconsider that entire selection on D2.

Osieorb18

ExLight
funnier6
Pythag
Ranmaru
Raxxel
Xivii
Z25

That leaves:

#HBC | Kary
UtopianPoyzin
Wiisp

Out of the three of those, at the moment, I most want to see UP get lynched.

Vote: UtopianPoyzin

 

[osieorb18]

I'm willing to reconsider that entire selection on D2.

By willing, I mean that you can fully expect me to do so.

 

[ranmaru]

Actually, I'm still doubting Xiivi here. Mostly due to their interaction. If there is no CC, than I guess it was a wacky coincidence.

 

[osieorb18]

Also, you can fully expect that I will ask for a massclaim near the start of Day 2 if I'm alive irregardless of my alignment.

 

[ExLight]

when does the day end

 

[Dooplissity]

when does the day end

Just over 24h from now.

Will provide a vote count when off work in a few hours.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah we should mass claim the next day.

 

[Xivii]

Xivii breadcrumbs?

also why did you decide to call Pythag the sorcerer

Early in the game I made this out of the people who hadn't really posted yet. I intentionally left pythag out despite him not yet having posted:

I think the scum team probably lies within ExLight, Lore, Z25, and Mamboo

When pythag posted and made his rap post, his reads completley contradicted mine. He had Z25 as town and was going after Funnier for voting Ex and me and UP who were pushing Z. This made me think "hmmm pythag sorcerer indirectly trying to defend his wolfmates?"

Vote: Z25

This is the direction I'm going for today. I think wolf's are probably Z25 and Ex.

Funnier, Osie, Mamboo are good seer choices. Pythag is giving me sorcerer vibe.

Pythag's reaction to his wagon though made me reconsider, and I think he's more likely just town.

 

[ExLight]

so not today, good, we still have time to discuss more

UtopianPoyzin

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Vote: UtopianPoyzin

Can't complain about this. Going to sleep. I will be busy tomorrow evening but around before deadline.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

When pythag posted and made his rap post, his reads completley contradicted mine. He had Z25 as town and was going after Funnier for voting Ex and me and UP who were pushing Z. This made me think "hmmm pythag sorcerer indirectly trying to defend his wolfmates?"

you looked at your check results, looked at Pythag's play, and decided the best course of action was to openly call him the sorcerer in the game thread?

 

[Wiisp]

Do y'all even hesitate to think where a trian is at before voting...

Jesus christ

 

[ranmaru]

Ok I'm done with that. I did enjoy the challenge of trying to squeeze information into a small amount of space, i think it made me read better.

Brevity is usually pro town, I don't follow Z25's reasoning in that. But he just reads as grumpy to me, not necessarily anti town.
UP is all over the map, which makes me want to vote for him.
Xiivii was on my list and Mamboo wasn't, but good lord the last few posts have been insufferable.

I don't buy falling over yourself to help the new players. I know what Xivii said, I know what UP said, and I know what Lore said.
I say, I find it a way too good strategy for mafia to 'blend in' and therefore will find it scummy.

people I'd vote for currently (in no particular order):

UP
Funnier
Mamboo
Xivii


Vote : Funnier

unless Mamboo doesn't get a replacement (lmao how funny would it be if Brindol replaced him?)

Vote: Z25

This is the direction I'm going for today. I think wolf's are probably Z25 and Ex.

Funnier, Osie, Mamboo are good seer choices. Pythag is giving me sorcerer vibe.

I thought he was replacing out and didn't see the point in voting him if that was the case.

What did you think I meant?

I thought you were implicating him as possibility for being seer, as you were implicating me of being sorcerer. that struck me as a RAPID shift in your read.

However you were saying that the seer should go on one of them (correct?)

Correct, I'd never out the seer d1! It's suspicious to me that's what you thought I was doing and was Ok with it...

 

[Raxxel]

Unvote

I believe Xivii. I agree with Wiisp though, I don't understand this UP wagon at all.

 

[Xivii]

you looked at your check results, looked at Pythag's play, and decided the best course of action was to openly call him the sorcerer in the game thread?

I didn't want to be too obvious. I considered saying "non-wolf" or "town/sorcerer" but I think those would have been too overt. Having him as sorcerer when finding him suspicious or town when not was the most subtle way I could think of going about it. Even so, I'm pretty sure mafia already picked up on it when I was defending against his lynch.

 

[ranmaru]

er wait a minute... we could still go pythag... seer result isn't absolute yet remember

 

[ranmaru]

Does anyone think that the Xiivi = Pythag interaction could be town / sorcerer with Pythag trying to muddle the waters?

 

[osieorb18]

er wait a minute... we could still go pythag... seer result isn't absolute yet remember

I'm not doing the seer's N0 green check either.

 

[osieorb18]

Does anyone think that the Xiivi = Pythag interaction could be town / sorcerer with Pythag trying to muddle the waters?

It's not a high enough probability.

 

[ranmaru]

I believe Xivii. I agree with Wiisp though, I don't understand this UP wagon at all.

UP has been silent starting since Pythag has been wagoned up to now.

 

[osieorb18]

Osie's Unofficial Votecount (Feb 5th, 4:43 PM PST)

UtopianPoyzin (4) - Pythag, Ranmaru, osieorb18, #HBC | Kary
Exlight (1) - Xivii
Pythag (1) - Wiisp
Ranmaru (1) - funnier6
Z25 (1) - UtopianPoyzin
Not Voting (3) - ExLight, Raxxel, z25

Wiisp : Why are you voting for the confirmable seer's n0 green check?

 

[osieorb18]

UP has been silent starting since Pythag has been wagoned up to now.

They also had a number of informed-looking pings.

 

[ExLight]

er wait a minute... we could still go pythag... seer result isn't absolute yet remember

you think py is the sorcerer? :surppika:
the odds are really against that

 

[Raxxel]

Xivii , can you send me the names of the other two players you submitted?

 

[Xivii]

Xivii , can you send me the names of the other two players you submitted?

Ex and Funnier

 

[osieorb18]

er wait a minute... we could still go pythag... seer result isn't absolute yet remember

Also we definitely don't lynch "This person could be a sorcerer but can't be wolf unless our un-CC'd seer is lying"

 

[ExLight]

Ex and Funnier

why us?
if you were aiming for players you didn't know why py for the third slot?

 

[osieorb18]

Ex and Funnier

This isn't monty hall, though. They only have a marginally higher probability of being scum. You don't know that you definitely picked scum in 3 players in the pre-game.

 

[ranmaru]

"The Sorcerer, while evil, is not technically a Werewolf and will return as "Not Werewolf."

 

[ranmaru]

That's what I meant, I wasn't saying Seer was lying.

 

[ranmaru]

Either way, I think that interaction should be kept in mind in future days, and before Sorcerer is dead, all Seer is good for is a self-clear really.

 

[ranmaru]

Oh wait the seer can still find wolves. Never mind, not that bad actually

 

[ranmaru]

why us?
if you were aiming for players you didn't know why py for the third slot?

Good question, I am also wondering about this.

 

[ExLight]

Either way, I think that interaction should be kept in mind in future days, and before Sorcerer is dead, all Seer is good for is a self-clear really.

If noone CCs Xivii then Py has a 90% chance of not being scum tho, which is good enough to not lynch today tho