I'm drunk ,but wedge, why are you helping that ****ter?
Cus I'm his uncle
. Plus you love me, so shush.
None of seagull's matches were recorded unfortunately, I think I heard something about using online mode to stream the tournament was too laggy for them.
Joe, the only advice I can give about fighting Rosalina and Luma is to use fullhop ASCs. ASC doesn't have nearly as many applications as it did in brawl, but you can use it to get over luma if rosalina is using him to pressure you and staying back behind luma. If you can hit her with ASC out of whatever command she's giving luma, the ASC will juggle her and you can double jump out before you hit the ground to continue the juggle with a uair. When you juggle her with ASC>Uair, Luma can't hit you out of that. Other than that you have to get her in the air somehow and camp her landing with side B and either shield cancel to punish and shieldgrab aerials or just say **** the shieldgrabbing and use the side B invincibility to punish both falling aerials and spotdodges.
Getting over Luma is not the issue. The issue is killing her. Full Hop ASC can only benefit me if I do an attack to her and she'll just shield whatever I do if I'm approaching like that. The best openings I've found include Bthrow (This throw puts you away from luma's jab range), Sh Fair, homing attack, and then of course down b/side b through and retreat. It's just hard to get the kill move and/or gimp her. That's the main issue. I think once I master this whole fox trot fsmash ****, I'll be good to go on killing. I imagine
highly benefits from being able to run and Fsmash or smash her from behind. That makes mix ups huge since I can mix up with Bthrow or Fsmash. 50-50 options.
Seagull, were any of these recorded?
Unfortunately no. There was lag at Xanadu near the stream setup. To inhibit the lag, I had to play either the DS's directly touching each other's heads, near the entrance, or outside. Xanadu's venue is weird with regard to connection lol.
Hello, glad to see most of you guys still active on here.
Overall I haven't really found any horrible match ups yet for Sonic. Like in Brawl, Sonic will probably have bad match ups but never any unwinnable ones.
In addition to RosaLuma, another possible trouble match up might be Yoshi?(or maybe I'm just pretty bad at fighting him)
is terrifying. I'm not going to lie. His usmash kills insanely earlier and his bair has spike properties. Most
's make their approach obvious tho. Any
that runs at you will probably DA because that's the most predictable option. Shield grab this. You can spring gimp him if you position right. Just play the bait game. He can't force you to approach and you can spin right at him if he does any move besides like Bair.