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da K.I.D.

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you have to DI the f throw so as not to get tippered.

and in that one specific down throw situation, it sets up for a psuedo CG, cus all you have to do is down throw and than run up and shieldgrab his f air, and than you can do it again...

it also works on people that tech the down throw.
 

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ive got great help. dont use the down throw. it doesnt put marth at any disadvantadge. hes weak below him so force him in the air with the up throw...or bait a fair with the f-throw. as for getting past fairs....just run around....show him that u have no intention of running into the brick wall and hes going to have to mix it up. or....u can do what i do....and jus charge the down-b to hit right inbetween the fair brickwall lol. also up air oos works really well against marths fair wall. and fthrow into TIP f-smash isnt legit. u were DI'ing away from marth thus u got hit with it. If u held towards him u would have taken a normal f-smash for a mere 10% or so. I kno that marth can up-b out of it so mayb sonic can do the same....not sure on that tho.

but yeah....bottomline is dan is really really good in that matchup and at this game in general. another thing is once u get @ higher %s....he will begin baiting u by fairing into ur shield so u attempt to shield grab. at this point u should begin holding ur shield rather than attempting to grab. dan and marth players in general use this tactic and then immediately up-b since u cant grab invincible things...mad gay
 

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i was gonna say f air inbetween his f airs, but thats just semantics, the point is you can hit him between forward airs, and if you have less damage than him and hes trying to pull the f air crap, just camp.

sonic players really need to camp more, it works for blue...
 

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yeah man i got alot better against marth after fighting dan for so long. another thing u wanna do is outlive marth....and bait alot of f-smashes. the move is highly punishable. up tilt is his safest kill move and u can survive that until about 150 or so. dan/any marth i play always tells me that i dont die. its because his kill options really revolve around u either messing up ur spacing....attacking his shield blindly or well timed f-smashes. and this may sound...super....super....super weird cause every marth will telll u that BF is their best neutral but take them ALL to battlefield. its his best neutral if he can control the bottom platform....but with the up throw u can put him on the platforms ALOT and put him at his weakest point (below him) alot more frequently. also....dancing blade 101...if he goes for the last hit with 10000 little pokes SDI into him as hard as you can. you will end up behind him b4 the move finishes....thus ensuring the f-smash since the move takes 4ever. also do not roll behind dancing blade. u will take an up-b. also if u r shielding dancing blade and u SUSPECT the downwards one is coming....grab. the downwards dancing blade is able to be grabbed inbetween the 3rd and 4th hit. the upward one as well...the regular one is not. other sonic players will tell u its all about tilts and w/e....but marth is a characters BASED ON SPACING and TRAPS....sonic really loves to **** ppls spacing and up-p out of dtilt traps or walls that he cant find a sensible way around. so really running is the best offense.
 

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i was gonna say f air inbetween his f airs, but thats just semantics, the point is you can hit him between forward airs, and if you have less damage than him and hes trying to pull the f air crap, just camp.

sonic players really need to camp more, it works for blue...
Like what I did to K Prime in our third match?
lol, running the clock out.
 

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Do you finally see what we've been trying to tell you for a while now SM5? It's all about experience, you can't beat yourself up because you probably did a couple of things wrong AT YOUR FIRST TOURNEY! If you thought you would be getting anything better than 10th place, especially with the names I saw in there, you're crazy. You have to have hope but be logical about it, otherwise you blow things out of proportion. I'm not saying you didn't do good, but really you win some and you lose some, and losing helps you in becoming a better player.

Thanks Malcolm, I'm sure that if anybody could've helped him, it was you, seeing as how you probably have the most Marth experience out of all of us, and considerable tourney experience as well.
 

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sonic master go to chus biweekly...im trying to c if D1 and ninjalink will take me. so if u go to that we can play and u can play against NL and D1s marth...they will help u out alot as well.
 

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sonic master go to chus biweekly...im trying to c if D1 and ninjalink will take me. so if u go to that we can play and u can play against NL and D1s marth...they will help u out alot as well.
if you do that make sure NL plays his ROB and his Zelda.
you're going to get ***** by both but those are 2 or his top characters and 2 or sonics hardest matchups. see how it is to play high level tough matchups
 

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I agree whole heartedly with ROB...as ive written on these boards 1000 times. ROB is so tough for sonic. Mad Disjoints....insane recovery....heavy characters....2 projectiles....sick spotdodge....5 frame d-smash...and lightining fast shield grab. But Zelda isnt really that bad at all...and i believe he has the best zelda in the country.
 

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yeah man i got alot better against marth after fighting dan for so long. another thing u wanna do is outlive marth....and bait alot of f-smashes. the move is highly punishable. up tilt is his safest kill move and u can survive that until about 150 or so. dan/any marth i play always tells me that i dont die. its because his kill options really revolve around u either messing up ur spacing....attacking his shield blindly or well timed f-smashes. and this may sound...super....super....super weird cause every marth will telll u that BF is their best neutral but take them ALL to battlefield. its his best neutral if he can control the bottom platform....but with the up throw u can put him on the platforms ALOT and put him at his weakest point (below him) alot more frequently. also....dancing blade 101...if he goes for the last hit with 10000 little pokes SDI into him as hard as you can. you will end up behind him b4 the move finishes....thus ensuring the f-smash since the move takes 4ever. also do not roll behind dancing blade. u will take an up-b. also if u r shielding dancing blade and u SUSPECT the downwards one is coming....grab. the downwards dancing blade is able to be grabbed inbetween the 3rd and 4th hit. the upward one as well...the regular one is not. other sonic players will tell u its all about tilts and w/e....but marth is a characters BASED ON SPACING and TRAPS....sonic really loves to **** ppls spacing and up-p out of dtilt traps or walls that he cant find a sensible way around. so really running is the best offense.
ty ty, I'm going to read this 10times

I hate marthas >.>
 

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*gets down on knees and raises hands in air* CHHHYYYYYEAAAAA!!

FINALLY!

i got 1st at MA 10

woooo hooo! i even beat kens metaknight for first. NYAK.


tournament results should be up in a little. :008:
 

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Finally X won :D

Good work steak.

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I agree whole heartedly with ROB...as ive written on these boards 1000 times. ROB is so tough for sonic. Mad Disjoints....insane recovery....heavy characters....2 projectiles....sick spotdodge....5 frame d-smash...and lightining fast shield grab. But Zelda isnt really that bad at all...and i believe he has the best zelda in the country.
zelda is definantly a hard matchup, basically for the same reasons as rob.
but this isn't the matchup thread.
 

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Don't do it Twinkles, Memphis will moderate his thread good, it's how I got un-legitimately banned.
 

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so in the CG thread on tactical boards i wrote
'unless sonic makes a misteak'

I didnt realise until after i posted, it was a legit typo.

... but i did it twice, later again in that same paragraph.

Whats happening to me?!
 

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Too good, I bet one of us is going to fail our English portion of our finals because Steak is going to be somewhere in there it shouldn't.

All your base are belong to Haunter.

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Yeah... Castle Golf was like his bread and butter.

Kept inviting me to come.

I don't think he ever got the fact in his head, "15 y.o Asian kid, cheap *** parents, no smash friends to drive me, and no cash."

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Me and blarf have been going Castle golf since Melee, **** was so cash.

I mean, Ryan/eli ***** the **** out of me, but the **** felt nice.

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