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Sonic The Hedgehog Mafia - Who lives happily ever after in the Land of the Sky?

#HBC | Gorf

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I love how I pegged Rockin and Kirbyo as scum perfectly off of the smallest things. Gordito on the other hand was compiling an entire games worth of actions together and putting it together with full proof meta lol.
Meta? I've been in one game with you, as my first game lol.
 

Xiivi

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N1: UTDZac Save: None
Rockin Murder: Pierce7d
Rockin ON: Super Saint
Sir Bedevere Note: vVv ChiboSempai
[collapse=Night 1]HELLO VVV CHIBOSEMPAI.. I AM eagle. YOU ARE THE first TO RECEIVE A note FROM ME.

I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN SOLD2 AND KIRBYOSHI. WHETHER THIS CONNECTION IS OF A MASONRY OR OF A SCUM PARTNERSHIP I DO NOT KNOW. BUT BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR ANY INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THEM. I AM NOT KIRBYOSHI OR SOLD2.

TO CONFIRM THAT YOU RECEIVED THIS note PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 2) END WITH TWO "PERIODS" (".") LIKE HOW I DID WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THIS note. IF YOU POSTED WITHOUT READING THIS PART OF THE note YOU MAY HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR SECOND POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 2) END WITH TWO "PERIODS" (".") INSTEAD TO INDICATE YOU RECEIVED THIS note. DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS IF YOU ARE MAFIA.

DO NOT MENTION THIS note TO ANYONE IN THE THREAD UNTIL I MENTION IT. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO RECEIVE A note TONIGHT.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE ME IF THEIR ROLE'S NAME DOES NOT HAVE THE INITIALS "TA" (FOR EXAMPLE THE TOWN DOCTOR HAS THE INITIALS "TD"). ESPECIALLY IF A ROLE NAME WITH THE INITIALS "TA" WAS REVEALED AND THEY POSTED THE MESSAGE "NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAND OF DARKNESS!" WHEN THEY DIED.



THE eagle HAS LANDED.

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N2: UTDZac Save: None
Rockin Murder: rPSI
Rockin ON: Beloved Princess
Sir Bedevere Note: UTDZac
[collapse=Night 2]HELLO UTDZAC.. I AM eagle. YOU ARE THE second TO RECEIVE A note FROM ME.

I BELIEVE THERE IS MAFIA AMONGST RPSI AND SWORDSRBROKEN. PERHAPS NOT BOTH. BUT THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH KIRBYOSHI SEEM TO INDICATE THAT THEY KNEW KIRBYOSHI'S ALIGNMENT AND WERE AWARE OF HIS ROLE. LOOK INTO IT YOURSELF. I AM NOT RPSI OR SWORDSRBROKEN. IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT I SAID HERE PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 3) BE A LETTER BETWEEN A AND M. IF YOU DISAGREE PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 3) BE A LETTER BETWEEN N AND Z.

TO CONFIRM THAT YOU RECEIVED THIS note PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 3) END WITH TWO "PERIODS" (".") LIKE HOW I DID WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THIS note. IF YOU POSTED WITHOUT READING THIS PART OF THE note YOU MAY HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR SECOND POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 3) END WITH TWO "PERIODS" (".") INSTEAD TO INDICATE YOU RECEIVED THIS note.

DO NOT MENTION THIS note TO ANYONE IN THE THREAD UNTIL I MENTION IT. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO RECEIVE A note TONIGHT.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE ME IF THEIR ROLE'S NAME DOES NOT HAVE THE INITIALS "TA" (FOR EXAMPLE THE TOWN DOCTOR HAS THE INITIALS "TD"). ESPECIALLY IF A ROLE NAME WITH THE INITIALS "TA" WAS REVEALED AND THEY POSTED THE MESSAGE "NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAND OF DARKNESS!" WHEN THEY DIED.



THE eagle HAS LANDED.

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N3: UTDZac Save: None
Rockin Murder: Sold2
Sir Bedevere Note: GorditoBoy69
[collapse=Night 3]HELLO GORDITOBOY69.. I AM eagle. YOU ARE THE third TO RECEIVE A note FROM ME.

I CAN SEE A ROCKIN/SIR BEDEVERE SCUMTEAM. THEY HAVE HAD EXTREMELY LIMITED CONTACT AND BOTH SEEM TO BE MISLEADING TOWN. AT THE VERY LEAST I'M QUITE CERTAIN THAT ROCKIN IS SCUM. I AM NOT ROCKIN OR SIR BEDEVERE. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT I SAID HERE PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 4) BE A LETTER BETWEEN A AND M. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 4) BE A LETTER BETWEEN N AND Z.

TO CONFIRM THAT YOU RECEIVED THIS note PLEASE HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR FIRST POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 4) END WITH TWO "PERIODS" (".") LIKE HOW I DID WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THIS note. IF YOU POSTED WITHOUT READING THIS PART OF THE note YOU MAY HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR SECOND POST OF THE NEXT DAY (DAY 4) END WITH TWO "PERIODS" (".") INSTEAD TO INDICATE YOU RECEIVED THIS note.

DO NOT MENTION THIS note TO ANYONE IN THE THREAD UNTIL I MENTION IT. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO RECEIVE A note TONIGHT.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE ME IF THEIR ROLE'S NAME DOES NOT HAVE THE INITIALS "TA" (FOR EXAMPLE THE TOWN DOCTOR HAS THE INITIALS "TD"). ESPECIALLY IF A ROLE NAME WITH THE INITIALS "TA" WAS REVEALED AND THEY POSTED THE MESSAGE "NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAND OF DARKNESS!" WHEN THEY DIED.



THE eagle HAS LANDED.

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N4: UTDZac Save: GorditoBoy69
GorditoBoy69 Murder: Sir Bedevere
Sir Bedevere Note: UTDZac
[collapse=Night 4]Hey, eagle (Sir Bedevere) here. No, you won't have to suffer through CAPITAL LETTERS and underuse of punctuation. :)

The reason you're receiving this message is that, unless we lose toNight, you must be town. If you're scum, you can simply kill Gordito (who must therefore be town and a beloved princess), and we lose. This either means he's telling the truth and Chibo's scum, or he's lying and he's scum. Otherwise, town is not living to toMorrow if you're scum.

It's much more likely that you're telling the truth and are going to get killed toNight, but there's a chance scum might take not want to take the chance of you being able to protect yourself and will kill me instead, so I might as well send this to the only person I can basically guarantee is town. If you do end up living toMorrow, and people question you on why you didn't die, you can use the above as an argument (just don't quote it directly lol).

Anyways, with Rockin being confirmed scum, I think Chibo is the right lynch for toMorrow. There's a few reasons for this:

1. A 3-man scumteam is now confirmed, since the game hasn't ended (unless there's an indy). That makes Kirbyoshi an EXCELLENT bus to try and gain townie points from, but Sold stole that away with his Tiger wagon. However, Chibo remained on the wagon, and the next Day, he was EXTREMELY aggressive towards Kirb. Obviously, scum bussing scumbuddies know for certain that they'll reveal scum, so being as adamant as Chibo was in lynching him will make him seem more protown. Look at Gordito and Rockin D1: NEITHER of them had ANYTHING to do with the Kirb lynch D1. I honestly consider it extremely unlikely that a scum lynch could be made that early without some extra help to push it along, and unless you or I are scum, that help could have only came from Chibo.

2. Gordito did some pretty weird stuff if he's scum. At the end of D2 he attempted to push the lynch off of Kirb and on to Swords. Considering Kirb's role, this should have all been going exactly to plan, and I doubt Gordito would not be in on it. He also overreacted pretty convincingly to me being eagle, and I honestly couldn't see a scum-Gordito doing that.

3. As I've been saying (and Chibo's been ignoring), there's NO reason for Chibo to have voted Rockin so early. His reason for voting was extremely weak, something that would only make sense either as scum setting up for a bus, or scum trying to prey on innocent townies, and we know it's not the latter (Michizure switch? wtf xiivi). In comparison to the meta examples he gave, he voted way too early in the Day, and Rockin had been under no heat up till then, unlike his other vote choices. Rockin also made little effort to defend himself, much less than a townie would, but less than scum would either. I'm pretty sure it's because Chibo/Rockin WANTED us to find Rockin as scum.

Gordito voting Rockin end of Day was also pretty pro-town, considering he could have just let it stall out and make you vote, though that's pretty WIFOMy. Still makes me feel better about Gordito.

So yeah, hopefully you'll just be dead (LOL) so I can vote Chibo myself and make sure that Gordito votes with me (since I have a 1% chance of being scum to him, lol), but in the case that you do live, use this information to help you make decisions and hopefully win the game for town.

Just so I know that you received this, if you live, have the first post of the next Day (Day 5) contain the link to the same video I linked in my very first post on the first page, or if you die, just post "NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAND OF DARKNESS!" (in all caps) as your dying post. Don't need to do so if you die, really, but I'd still like to know lolol.

Good luck to you if you do live! Go town!

note note note note note note note



THE eagle HAS LANDED.

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CT Chia

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Meta? I've been in one game with you, as my first game lol.
Meta Reasoning:

(All times are in EST)

Xiivi has been online for a while, since before night even started obviously. It doesn't take a lot to churn out a new day favor. All he has to do is make a plain vote count, and post a video of the person that died. Day started at 11:48pm. Whether or not UTD was lying or not, he had a night action. Either his one shot doc ability (which should have been used last night since it was the last night of the game, unless we do a no lynch today wtf?) or if he turns out to be the final scum with a night action. UTD was online until the earlier half of the 10 o clock hour, and he hasn't been online since. If UTD had the only night action of the game left, that means Xiivi would have started the day period of the game much earlier, likely in the 10 o clock hour, not 11:48pm. This means that there is one other night action in the game.

According to the claims thus far, I am a vanilla townie and Gordito is a town princess. Neither of us have a night action according to our claims, but because of meta evidence, one of us have to have a night action, who would also be the final mafia member with a night kill. More meta evidence, I was out and didn't get home until around 11:55pm, which is after the new day started. If you must know I was at the boardwalk in Ocean City, NJ. If you want further proof of this, check me out on AIM and it will say I signed on x minutes ago, and subtract that time from when you are looking at it and it will say 11:55pm. Enough defense from me however, Gordito was online during the 11 o' clock hour on Smashboards. This means he had a night action and was the final person to send in a night action for the game for Xiivi to post the new day. Princesses have no night actions which means he lied about his role.
this meta, based on the times
 

Xiivi

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Spoilers:
Chibo had been online during that Night and could have sent an action in. I checked. So his metadata was indeed fake.
Town Agent, Mafia Spy, and Independent Messenger are all the alignments Sir Bedevere's role can take by the way. I was an Independent Messenger in Wonderland Mafia on this site and Mafia Spy is fairly common on Epic Mafia.
 

CT Chia

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Spoilers:
Chibo had been online during that Night and could have sent an action in. I checked. So his metadata was indeed fake.
Town Agent, Mafia Spy, and Independent Messenger are all the alignments Sir Bedevere's role can take by the way. I was an Independent Messenger in Wonderland Mafia on this site and Mafia Spy is fairly common on Epic Mafia.
When I wrote it I was completely serious but then realized the flaw in it later but still went with it.

I was online in the 11 o clock hour too, but from my mom's cell phone because mine was broken (as I wasn't home as I said). The fact that I checked from her phone completely threw me off and when I made that post I didn't think I was online then even though I was lol. However the rest of it was correct.
 

Nicholas1024

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Spoilers:
Chibo had been online during that Night and could have sent an action in. I checked. So his metadata was indeed fake.
Town Agent, Mafia Spy, and Independent Messenger are all the alignments Sir Bedevere's role can take by the way. I was an Independent Messenger in Wonderland Mafia on this site and Mafia Spy is fairly common on Epic Mafia.
Heh. Everyone read Xiivi's notes he sent that game and Omni's D2 reaction to them. Absolutely hilarious. :laugh:
 

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You should have killed Zac Gordito, I was convinced Chibo was scum LOL. Instead he got all 3 scumbros and is awesome. But still shouldn't vote in lylo like that. :<

My role was pretty cool/fun, though I think I could have used it better (how, idk). I wish I had thought about getting people to give a response to my reads in the beginning (which were all wrong btw, except the one I sent to scum LOL), because I might have been a bit more comfortable with Chibo had I done so. Also should have pressured Gordito more on his refusal to give a stance on me/Rockin, because looking back, I couldn't see a townie reason for it and I think it could have ended this game sooner if I got him to slip up and/or bus Rockin faster. I had already divided this game up into Chibo/Zac and Gordito/Rockin scum teams by D4, and once Zac/Chibo was impossible, I should have just went with my gut. >.> Ah well.

My messages were unbreakable links to me maan.
 

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CT Chia

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But still shouldn't vote in lylo like that. :<
I disagree

If a townie has what they believe is a solid scumtell, they have to act on it asap and hard. As long as there is a case behind the vote, it's good.

Also I've done it in multiple games, and it's worked every time. Giving more time in lylo like that only lets scum talk more to twist up a case (as a fake case will take more time to build and convince) on a townie for another townie to vote them and lose the game.
 

Sir Bedevere

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I disagree

If a townie has what they believe is a solid scumtell, they have to act on it asap and hard. As long as there is a case behind the vote, it's good.

Also I've done it in multiple games, and it's worked every time. Giving more time in lylo like that only lets scum talk more to twist up a case (as a fake case will take more time to build and convince) on a townie for another townie to vote them and lose the game.
But that's the thing, I don't think you really had a case, at least not when you voted. If the only reason you voted Rockin was because he said he was going to search a wagon for scum and he wasn't on that wagon, that bears no indication that he's scum, as both town AND scum do not need to look at their own interactions on a wagon to determine their alignment (since they already know). IDK, maybe it's a common scumtell and I'm simply too new not to recognize it, but I found nothing wrong with what Rockin said (although I'll be sure to avoid saying that whenever I'm scum now lol).

It was more your lack of a strong reason to vote that really made me start tunneling you, not just voting early in lylo (though I still don't like it, since it puts the entire game into the hands of one townie's opinion rather than the town's collective opinions).

Also

Maybe it was just me already knowing you were scum Gordito, but when you didn't vote Chibo and didn't produce a case, I was like "man UTD should have hammered 5 months ago what is this".
 

DtJ S2n

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"DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS IF YOU ARE MAFIA."
I lol'd at this one, Sir Bed.

GGs all, can't believe town made it 2 right lynches in a row. If I was there after the night I had died, I think I woulda lynched Rockin too I hope but I don't know.

Speaker of the Dead role was cool, but it kinda acted more as a personal notepad than a communication tool :c. I can't blame the dead for not being a chatty bunch, though lol.

Switch role between two would-be-OP scum roles was an awesome set-up and it looked like this game was really interesting from the scum side. I guess I shoulda let the Kirby lynch go through D1 lol.
 

Sir Bedevere

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"DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS IF YOU ARE MAFIA."
I lol'd at this one, Sir Bed.
I wanted mafia to think there was some reason that I wouldn't want mafia responding to my notes, so I threw that in to try and tempt them lol. Didn't put it back in for Zac cus I had a town read on him at the time (actually, both Zac and Chibo were my early town reads, put it in for Chibo just in case), and didn't put it in for Gordito cause I forgot lol. Also, if Gordito didn't respond, I'd start pushing him hard, because not responding to the note I sent him was one of the things I was looking for. Giant WIFOM basically, but I think it could have worked.
 

Rockin

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Bleh, good try gord

I'm upset at my performance personally, but meh. I think scum was doing good at first, but my refusal to bus gord was probably our downfall. I didn't want to bus Gord cause...well, I hate bussing them. I only bus scummates if I'm FORCED to do it (like when Kirbyoshi acting like a tard and attracting attention. >>). I know I could've done the same to gord, but I didn't like it cause I hate winning a game by bussing two scummates. It wouldn't have felt that good (plus it's just a plain jerkus thing to do).

I'm also upset at the amount of reason behind my vote over chibo's day 4. My fence sitting over the more scummy stuff he did. It's upsetting cause I felt like I've been playing as though I was an actual townie, and if I was town in this game I....yeah.

NKing sir bed was an idea at first, but he was confirmed town. There would've actually have been a way to make his role look kinda bad, which would've been bringing up the 'Trickster' role from Ronike's DBZ game. However, cause it was Sir (who I didn't have legitimate scummy vibes from) and not Chibo or Zac, I left it alone...

in anycase, GG town. Nix, remember, careful who buddies you.
 

SwordsRbroken

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Xiivi is da best mod ever.

Good game guys, i was sure gordito was scum, but when xiivi told me rockin and not bedivere was scum, i was banging my head against the desk. Good game guys!
 
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