Social Sonic Says: Ultimate

[True Blue]

Yea, I can't record anything. lol I have a lot of videos but none to capture with.

Also, cause we had a custom move tourney yesterday, was messing with Side B stuff and it seems whatever janky Side B you use the weird properties transfer with the Down B. Cause I used the Hammer Side B and was charging Down B and held back and made me stop in place.
But on even awesome news was that Fire Spin Side B can go through a lot of things. Went through an MK Drill/Tornado, went through Shiek Needles (Even fully charged). Went through Rob Laser fully charged, and since the custom itself makes you short hop automatically it was easier to jump over Gyro and land infront of Rob to grab or Jab him.
And even though when you hit an opponents shield and instantly get lagged and stop you can just Jump Cancel the lag before it happens and nair or fast fall grab or something. lol But those fire properties gave it a nice pow to go through a lot of things.
OH! It also eats up Diddy's Banana. You will destroy it and continue spinning through it.

TL;DR: I had fun with custom moves. lol

 

[Seagull Joe]

Yea, I can't record anything. lol I have a lot of videos but none to capture with.

Also, cause we had a custom move tourney yesterday, was messing with Side B stuff and it seems whatever janky Side B you use the weird properties transfer with the Down B. Cause I used the Hammer Side B and was charging Down B and held back and made me stop in place.
But on even awesome news was that Fire Spin Side B can go through a lot of things. Went through an MK Drill/Tornado, went through Shiek Needles (Even fully charged). Went through Rob Laser fully charged, and since the custom itself makes you short hop automatically it was easier to jump over Gyro and land infront of Rob to grab or Jab him.
And even though when you hit an opponents shield and instantly get lagged and stop you can just Jump Cancel the lag before it happens and nair or fast fall grab or something. lol But those fire properties gave it a nice pow to go through a lot of things.
OH! It also eats up Diddy's Banana. You will destroy it and continue spinning through it.

TL;DR: I had fun with custom moves. lol

I guess I need to get this custom since I'm going to KTAR 11.

 

[Kinzer]

So Burning Spin Dash is going to encourage Poor approaches with direct SDRs?

Sounds like a good alternative.

 

[Sonic Orochi]

I dunno, I think Burning Spin Dash would work well against newbs but would fail hard against good players.

 

[True Blue]

Idk. It depends. I never played any scrubs with customs. They always asked me if we could play without. lol.
I think it is just something to get use to and adapt around and think of different options/approaches.

 

[jordanm43444]

I thought the spindash was already a scrub destroyer as it was? Or Spinshot, whichever one sideb is

 

[Chis]

You guys should definitely do an 8-way Sonic match with voice chat when the Wii U version comes out.

 

[Phoenix_Dark]

Too bad voice chat is only enabled before and after matches. What a dumb feature.

 

[Chis]

That's Nintendo for ya.

 

[PsychoSy]

So that means we still have to use skype?

 

[Seagull Joe]

Went to another tourney today. Went all in the matches I won except for one time when I went against a (Won game 1 as then switched to game 2). Got 2nd losing to yet again in swiss and GF lol. Tried , , bowser:, and a ditto. The ditto was the closest I got @_@. I think she's 's worst matchup by FAR!

 

[Kupo Rose]

You guys should definitely do an 8-way Sonic match with voice chat when the Wii U version comes out.

It'll look like lottery balls.

 

[jordanm43444]

Went to another tourney today. Went all in the matches I won except for one time when I went against a (Won game 1 as then switched to game 2). Got 2nd losing to yet again in swiss and GF lol. Tried , , bowser:, and a ditto. The ditto was the closest I got @_@. I think she's 's worst matchup by FAR!

Im still not seeing her being that bad for Sonic honestly, Sonic does have the tools to close the spacing really well and get in on Rosa

 

[Seagull Joe]

Im still not seeing her being that bad for Sonic honestly, Sonic does have the tools to close the spacing really well and get in on Rosa

Have you PLAYED any outside of 4Glory mode?!?

 

[Scourge The Hedgehog]

She's not that bad for Sonic honestly. People I play locally include DBR (yeah they are still around and messing with the game), Lucien, Nanerz, and many others. When I play against Rosaluma it is all about patience. Sonic is one of the match ups where she plays uncomfortably and makes mistakes. Although she has huge hit boxes on her aerials Sonic's fair can usually come out faster than they can. Spin Charge can get through both Luma and put some damage on Rosa.

-Fair is great against Rosa
-Mix up your approaches with Sonic. Confusing them will leave an opening for sure
-Down Smash is actually viable against her since it can split her from Luma
-All hail based Up Smash
-Grabs are off limits UNLESS you kill off Luma. Just don't do it you'll get punished

While I still believe is one of his hardest match ups if you try to aggro the heck out of Rosaluma you'll most likely get punished. So yeah I can see the match up being hard for some people.

Fun fact: I took Dabuz to game three on good ol AiB ladder recently but then again no one counts WiFI right?

 

[Seagull Joe]

She's not that bad for Sonic honestly. People I play locally include DBR (yeah they are still around and messing with the game), Lucien, Nanerz, and many others. When I play against Rosaluma it is all about patience. Sonic is one of the match ups where she plays uncomfortably and makes mistakes. Although she has huge hit boxes on her aerials Sonic's fair can usually come out faster than they can. Spin Charge can get through both Luma and put some damage on Rosa.

-Fair is great against Rosa
-Mix up your approaches with Sonic. Confusing them will leave an opening for sure
-Down Smash is actually viable against her since it can split her from Luma
-All hail based Up Smash
-Grabs are off limits UNLESS you kill off Luma. Just don't do it you'll get punished

While I still believe is one of his hardest match ups if you try to aggro the heck out of Rosaluma you'll most likely get punished. So yeah I can see the match up being hard for some people.

Fun fact: I took Dabuz to game three on good ol AiB ladder recently but then again no one counts WiFI right?

Show me vids so I can learn pls. And how are you landing smash moves against ? Is she standing still o_O. Side b hits :luma:, which gives time to shield and grab. Full charge down b goes through them both?

I don't think is that difficult also. I just bait her and then grab to whatever. She can't reliably bouncing fish and she isn't super hard to get in on. Dthrow>Stuff also does not true combo on .

 

[Scourge The Hedgehog]

I'll see if I can give these replays to someone with a capture card. Otherwise it'll just end up being recorded off my phone and I doubt anyone wants to see that. From experience players don't even have time to react to Spin Charge due to the fact they are use to nothing getting past Luma. You only need a few seconds of charge to get through them both but yes a full Spin Charge is preferred. I haven't played a really aggressive Rosaluma yet so they give you plenty of time to set up.

Also I usually land Up smash on Rosaluma when they recover high or try to approach with Dair. Up Smash is personally my favorite kill move because people don't expect it to kill. Down Smash when they are trying to play on the edge. The hit box on Down Smash is actually a lot better than I thought. Barely land Forward Smash though but I might be able to know that I'm stutter stepping haha. Going to play Lucien some more (he's basically the Rosaluma that's beating everyone right now in NorCal) so I'll save more matches.

Only reason Sheik is difficulty to me is due to the way people play her out here. So much needles. One person literally just used Needles till I was around 150% every life then killed me. I just find her difficult to edge guard. How to kill Sheik >: Heck how to kill Ness

 

[Seagull Joe]

I'll see if I can give these replays to someone with a capture card. Otherwise it'll just end up being recorded off my phone and I doubt anyone wants to see that. From experience players don't even have time to react to Spin Charge due to the fact they are use to nothing getting past Luma. You only need a few seconds of charge to get through them both but yes a full Spin Charge is preferred. I haven't played a really aggressive Rosaluma yet so they give you plenty of time to set up.

Also I usually land Up smash on Rosaluma when they recover high or try to approach with Dair. Up Smash is personally my favorite kill move because people don't expect it to kill. Down Smash when they are trying to play on the edge. The hit box on Down Smash is actually a lot better than I thought. Barely land Forward Smash though but I might be able to know that I'm stutter stepping haha. Going to play Lucien some more (he's basically the Rosaluma that's beating everyone right now in NorCal) so I'll save more matches.

Only reason Sheik is difficulty to me is due to the way people play her out here. So much needles. One person literally just used Needles till I was around 150% every life then killed me. I just find her difficult to edge guard. How to kill Sheik >: Heck how to kill Ness

What good would approach with Dair O_O? Show me some vids man. I realized FH Fair is actually a decent tool in the matchup because it's harder for her to punish. I've been trying what you said and it is providing me some means of success. I just body luma and never grab (I love grabbing lol) unless luma is dead.

Needles are easy to get around. They have a specific distance and if she's firing them then you have time to homing attack.

 

[True Blue]

The times I played against Xaltis' Rosa I didn't land smash moves except for an Up Smash that I extended by hitting Luma. But other than that I only killed because of Back Throws and Forward Throws and the Occasional falling Back Air. I will try and upload my sets somehow. But I know she is one of those characters you have to keep pressuring and you can not stop moving against. Once you hit her you need to MOVE cause more often than not Luma is still there waiting for you.

 

[Camalange]

I'd contribute to this Rosaluma debate, but I only played one named Frozen who seems to not know Sonic that well, so I told him to talk to Seagull Joe to hear him ***** about why she wins, lol

Do we have a tournament results thread? That'd be a nice thing to catalogue.

I got a lot of sets in with a really good Villager, which is a match-up I previously knew nothing about... Side-B is not nearly as good as I wanted to think it was. On start-up it has no hitbox so you can just fair through it and hit Villager and make it out just fine.

The sheer amount of projectiles (like slingshot) are really frustrating though. And their recovery... God. I got so close to maybe gimping but it's so god damn difficult.

 

[infomon]

"just pop the balloons!"

**** sakurai :D

 

[Camalange]

Even if you pop a balloon, Villager STILL gets good vertical height off the second one... It's insane. I popped one really low and I was like yeah, I definitely got it this time but NOPE.

 

[BlueTerrorist]

Got 1st at the Nebulous NYC Smash 3DS weekly today going all Sonic. It was nice meeting Camalange today :D.

The legend begins XD.

 

[Camalange]

Sonic repped hard. Everyone there complained about Rosaluma while we took top 2 oops

EDIT: http://smashboards.com/rankings/nebulous-smash-weekly-11-3ds.2678/event

 

[Seagull Joe]

Good job boys. is just a bunch of mediocre projectiles. He/She's really slow and can't grab you, which makes his up close game worse by default.

12-2 on the ladder at the moment.

Got 1st at the Nebulous NYC Smash 3DS weekly today going all Sonic. It was nice meeting Camalange today :D.

The legend begins XD.

Is this the Blue that used to play brawl or some different dude? I only know of you because Shadofiend said that people always mistook him for you.

 

[BlueTerrorist]

Good job boys. is just a bunch of mediocre projectiles. He/She's really slow and can't grab you, which makes his up close game worse by default.

12-2 on the ladder at the moment.

Is this the Blue that used to play brawl or some different dude? I only know of you because Shadofiend said that people always mistook him for you.

I used to play Brawl for some time. I think I heard about something like that can't really remember.

 

[Scourge The Hedgehog]

I miss Shadofiend. I remember when he came to stay at my house for Genesis. Also congrats!

 

[True Blue]

Oh yea a tourney thread should be good. Then I can post the two that happened here in SFL that I placed well in.
But they had an update for the 3DS, I think I am just gonna have to record these matches I have off of my phone or camera cause those matches might not work anymore if I update.
Blarg.
Does anyone know what the update is and what has been changed?

Edit: And Villager is on the same level of hatred that Wario is for me. I hate those two, being the most trolliest characters every... Let me twirl a fricken stick and send you to the fricken moon! UGH! lol

 

[Camalange]

Good job boys. is just a bunch of mediocre projectiles. He/She's really slow and can't grab you, which makes his up close game worse by default.

Thanks! And word, I realized that later in friendlies. I got to play him a bunch after and realized that I was letting myself get zoned by things that Sonic can challenge and challenged things I shouldn't have... Oh well, blew it in the set but definitely learned my way around it much more cleanly for future, and that was the whole point of going as I don't get good match-up experience on For Glory...

I miss Shadofiend.

Yeah, where's that faker hiding? I have one less person to troll these days :'(

Oh yea a tourney thread should be good. Then I can post the two that happened here in SFL that I placed well in.

I suggested to Phoenix that maybe a video thread could double as a tournament results thread? Might be smart to have people's rankings and videos altogether in one place for people to reference.

But they had an update for the 3DS, I think I am just gonna have to record these matches I have off of my phone or camera cause those matches might not work anymore if I update.
Blarg.
Does anyone know what the update is and what has been changed?

I keep hearing about this and I don't think anyone actually knows yet what the updated entailed.

 

[ROOOOY!]

I've been getting a bit of use off of replay channel recently, watching Sonic's 1v1. I've seen some incredible players, last match I watched I saw a Sonic get 0 -> spiked by a DK. A ****ing DONKEY KONG. It's a bit like mainlining heroin. It's good to start with, but too much at once and you're going blind.

 

[Scourge The Hedgehog]

I think I'll go make that tournament results thread in a bit. So if people have entered a tournament and have the results/challonge bracket make sure to get them ready.

 

[Blapius]

Hey everyone. Glad to see some of the old names like Infzy, Camalange, ROOOOY!, PhoenixDark, KC24, and Espy still around. Big hit of nostalgia. I'll be getting out to some tourneys soon, likely during fall/winter breaks. I'm a teacher now, so I stay pretty busy. Hope to play with some of you soon!

 

[Scourge The Hedgehog]

went through Shiek Needles (Even fully charged)

DID YOU JUST SAY WHAT I THINK YOU DID? This is EXACTLY what I wanted. I'm so using this now. I don't even know how I missed this.

 

[infomon]

@ Blapius omg get blapped timez! welcome back :D

no tails 8 sonics only green hill zone destination on wifi gogogo

 

[Camalange]

Hope to play with some of you soon!

Welcome back, Blap! Get blapped! It's like a Sonic reunion. Always a pleasure to see classic usernames pop up.

@ Blapius no tails 8 sonics only green hill zone destination on wifi gogogo

I think we may have to settle for Windy Hill.

 

[True Blue]

YO! Windy Hill would be awesome. A lot of people going to die from that Windmill since it cycles off stage into the blast zone. lol
Time to go back and play some lost worlds.

 

[jordanm43444]

Can I ask a serious question, how can people even play at high level on a 3ds....the control scheme and screen size just dont work for me. ._.

 

[True Blue]

Idk. I feel comfortable cause I play games constantly on my 3DS, one being Kid Icarus Uprising which required a bunch of Sporadic movements on the 3DS on single and multiplayer mode. It is probably one of those things to just get use to and treat it almost like a new a game.

 

[infomon]

The 3ds controls are fine to me mostly, except my control-stick smashed off so now it's just a sharp awkward stick, so my thumb developed a huge blister which was kinda painful to play but now it's got a big meaty callus so it's ok now, I just have to take a short break every few matches.

 

[Camalange]

I've adapted quite well to the 3DS, sans quick smash attacks and precise dash inputs.

How does everyone go through their circle pads so easily? It doesn't require that much force.