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Something Tamoo is bringing to light

Mindgames Son!

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Originally by Tamoo:


Powershielding Made Easy

Campy falco's always get to everyone eh? Well characters like jiggs can get round this with ease.

Method:

1) When you see the falco start to sh, crouch.

2) the laser will come towards you, wait for it to pass directly above you.
*The whole laser counts as a hitbox, so it is all powershieldable, so wait for any part of the animation to be above you*

3) Now, you have to let go of crouch, and in the time between getting up and getting hit by the laser, you have to shield.
*The whole shield allows you to powershield, not just the area between you and the edge of the shield*

If you do not let go of crouch, you actually light shield before fullshielding, which does not allow you to powershield.

Applications:

Close range: Wavedash oos to grab is very useful here, as they generally do not expect the grab coming at all, and hence, free uthrow to rest. Or just throw falco off the edge if he's close to the edge. Maybe go for a surprise rest, there are a lot of possibilities as falcos are generally thrown off by their blasters getting reflected back at them.

Long range: Camp the **** out of that spammy *****!!#

Might even make a little video to go along with this hehe

Hopefully, this can help all of you on your falco game, it may be quite hard to get the hang of, but at least jiggs has something remotely technical now , and btw, i do not claim to have discovered this, heck ive only been playing this game for a year and only found it in january. I saw a jiggs do it in a match once, cant remember who so I certainly didnt discover it, im just bringing it to light
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I asked if him if it worked for sheik, and he said it did, jsut there is less room for error because of her higher crouch. All credit goes to Tamoo for making that guide that wa suppsoed ot have colors but i was too lazy to add.

It might be useful if you run into a crouch and then do the powersheild thingy? idk but it is nice to know this useful tip of info( although low lasers will hit her crouch and you ucant powersheild them like this anymore, however yo ucan start short hopping over them now.)

Thank's Tamoo for showing this interesting technique!
 

TresChikon

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Then you lose, it's better to just learn the PSing timing all on its own.

Handicaps are limiting in the long run. You won't be able to do it with normal characters.
 

Smoke and smash

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No, this technique is really good. So easy to power shield, definitly worth learning. Marth is good for this since his crouch is so low compared to his standing height.
 

VA

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Pretty sure I can powershield nearly 100% of falco's lasers without this technique, seems pointless to me. I run up to falco's and powershield to grab them using normal powershield, sounds a lot better than this.
 

Smoke and smash

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...Good for you.

Hows repeating the same thing over and over working out for you?

And with this even people who suck can powershield 100% of the time, which is better than "nearly 100%".
 

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Wow glad everyone is a DB here.

This is a pretty cool technique, and i've heard it a few times. I do believe you're wrong about not being able to powershield with lightshield, though. The reason holding down while shielding doesnt work is because you're angling your shield down and making it hard to have the laser in the right spot.
 

VA

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I just think learning this technique is pointless when you could just learn to powershield properly. I'd beat you in a powershield MM anyday :p
 

Tamoo

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I originally posted this technique in the jiggs, Kirby and pichu boards, just to test the water and to know if its already well known or not. Someone came along and said it might be applicable to shiek so he’s free to post the technique if he wants, I really don’t mind.

VA: That’s all well and good but some of us cant get to grips with powershielding as much as your talented self, so this technique is for us. Its pretty cool that I can powershield as well as you minus the effort imo, and when the laser is already ¾ of the way past me lol.
And theres no need to 'learn' this technique as its piss easy lol, just do

And your on VA, next time we meet, lets see if you can beat the new technique lol.
 

Smoke and smash

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My dad will beat up your dad.


But seriously, you'd probably beat me in a power shielding challenge but I play with some ridiculous power shielders so I've seen some consistant power shielding.

A lot of people focus on other aspects of the game because improving consistancy in other areas of the game is of higher value and pays off more. Making power shielding easier for a large population of people is a great thing. Also defensive power shielding is great if your playstle prefers countering other people's approaching or maybe you just want to camp the edge of the level.

Tamoo-actually I advocate this tech for marths but sheik works good too I assume.
 

VA

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it's already so easy with marth! lol tamoo at the southampton tournament I remember playing a falco and getting 100% powershield on his lasers in one game. I think it was dacacia. But yeah at the london ranbat, powershield-off?
 

Tamoo

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Lets go VA!
And yeah, i guess it is easy with marth, but try doing it consistently with jiggs, i just Couldnt be arsed, so i just used to jump over lasers. But this technique improves jiggs camping game sooo much, and it doesnt just work with projectiles. Powershielding shffled arials

And no, no it isnt drephen, dont worry
 

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Tamoo read my post above. Its only because you're angling your shield and the timing is off/the laser hits your shield
 

Tamoo

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So how does that explain how Tee ay eye managed to do this whilst still crouching?

And so you can actually powershield with a lightshield then sveet? Thought it always had to be fullshield
 

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I am reviving this thread just to say i'm wrong.

You MUST full shield in order to powershield. Light shield does not work.
 

stelzig

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So how does that explain how Tee ay eye managed to do this whilst still crouching?
I was playing around with this a little today:
If you tilt the stick diagonally towards (or away, but i'd recommend towards :p) your opponent then you'll just shield normally (edit: with the exception that your shield will be tilted of course which actually makes it easier to powershield low lasers this way as well). Much like you can continously jabcancel without moving your left thumb if you press the control stick diagonally so your character will crouch, but not dtilt when you hit A.

This should make it easier to powershield lasers when dashing as well (i *think* normal dashing shield also lightshields briefly?)

Edit: Ehh after looking in training mode (1/4 speed) and trying a bit more against a level 9 falco's lasers it doesn't seem to lightshield briefly when you crouch or when you dash. It is perfectly possible to just crouch and powershield without letting go. I still suggesting tilting the shield in the above manner though :p
 

xbombr

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Interesting technique. I suck so bad at powershielding that this will be extremely useful to me.

Thanks much :D
 
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