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[MainJPW]

DBZ Kakarot news for those who care. Knight Dude

Vegeta, Piccolo & Gohan: both playable & support characters.
Chaozu, Tenshinhan, Krillin & Yamcha: support only.

-Supports can help w/ actions based on player movements.
-Raise stats with food & battles.
-Enemies include smth like Pirate Robot at Undersea Base.

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Playable characters: Cool.
Humans fighters not playable: Not cool. Krillin especially is a surprise given his prominence/importance.

So I guess in this image here Krillin is the support while Gohan is playable.

Spoiler

I wonder if...we'll get to attach a tail to Vegeta or Piccolo's ass.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I would agree that Smash 4 is probably the "worst" of a series with nothing but excellent games.

Smash 64 is Smash 64...the first in the series with an awesome identity of "the first game where Mario can fight Link, Samus, and other Nintendo superstars!"

Melee expanded upon that, with an Adventure Mode, trophies, almost doubling the roster size, and frankly an awesome competitive scene. Granted, I'm not a huge Melee fan any more as there are certain gameplay aspects of Ultimate that I think are pretty much better at this point. Melee expanded on pretty much everything that 64 had to offer.

Brawl, while having extremely floaty gameplay, was the first to include 3rd parties. Sure, Snake was the first, but it was an amazing reveal. The Subspace Emissary was ambitious, and while Sakurai was frustrated by the result of people just watching cutscenes online, it was a cool feature. Some understandable cuts, but unique playstyles were continued to be added. Plus, I have a lot of memories of playing Brawl with friends during high school and early college before Wii U/3DS came out, so it has a special place in my heart.

Smash 4, I think, is mostly problematic in hindsight because it didn't really...add anything that made things better. It was faster than Brawl, but it still looks INCREDIBLY sluggish compared to Ultimate. It added great 3rd parties and unique characters, but cut characters people really liked, such as Snake, Ice Climbers, and 2/3 of Pokemon Trainer. Classic Mode was a mess. There wasn't really a replacement for the SSE.

DLC was a great addition, but if Wii U/3DS didn't have DLC it would have probably left quite a bit of salt imo. I think that fact that it was split between Wii U & 3DS, and one of those consoles basically was DOA, the game itself was destined to struggle. It by default could only reach the potential of the 3DS, and the amount of cuts, not just characters but modes as well, made it feel like less of a leap.

Ultimate speaks for itself. The overall combination of roster size, available modes, spirits, online, and I would even argue the fan requests getting added, and attention paid to the eSports scene makes it really stand above the rest.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Wish me luck. Tomorrow morning I have to go to my bosses office instead of work. I might be getting fired.

I hope all goes well. I don't blame you for being freaked out.

 

[AlphaSSB]

I guess sign me up and I dunno AlphaSSB
Because nominating the alpha of the pack is funny to me

I've been gone for a while, come back, and see I've been volunteered for the Hunger Games. Seeing as that was about a week ago, I'll just assume I won.

Love your reasoning for volunteering me, haha.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I hope all goes well. I don't blame you for being freaked out.

I have been having trouble with the kids. And today I had an altercation with a co-worker.... I don’t know. Part of me feels like I deserve it.

 

[StormC]

Just you watch, its a ploy from Lupin to steal the rest of the Fighter's pass.

Already happened by another Arsene Lupin-inspired thief:

 

[Wario Bros.]

Think I'll get the Detective Pikachu graphic novel.

Want to see how it differs from the film.

 

[Will]

Think I'll get the Detective Pikachu graphic novel.

Want to see how it differs from the film.

man, can i get an F for the 3DS game

 

[Noipoi]

I’ve only played Wii U and Ultimate, so I can’t really judge the rest.

And I think it’s obvious which I think is the better game.

 

[StormC]

I’ve only played Wii U and Ultimate, so I can’t really judge the rest.

And I think it’s obvious which I think is the better game.

The one without dumb boomer choices like K. Rool and Ridley?

(your profile listing mains had me believe you played all the games...sad)

 

[Noipoi]

The one without dumb boomer choices like K. Rool and Ridley?

(your profile listing mains had me believe you played all the games...sad)

I just picked my favorites from each game

 

[Deleted member]

Sm4sh gave me Smash Tour so I can't be mad at the game at all. Its one of the most enjoyable modes overall plus I believe the additions of characters like Megaman, Pac-man, Little Mac, Cloud, Bayo, Ryu, Villager, WFT, Shulk and DH were great overall.

 

[Gyrom8]

Not surprising that it’s not starting yet but worth sharing:

Not surprising - especially as Nogami is busy with Animal Crosing at the mo

 

[StormC]

Think I said this before but I generally was underwhelmed by the first party characters in Smash 4. As someone whose primary gaming experiences came from the 90s and early 00s I felt a bit left out in that regard. The most exciting first party addition was actually the return of Mewtwo. Palutena was one of my wishlist characters at least. Mega Man and Cloud were god tier additions, but the dastardly duo's hype handily beats out every first party newcomer in Smash 4, no contest.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

The one without dumb boomer choices like K. Rool and Ridley?

(your profile listing mains had me believe you played all the games...sad)

I love how every one older than Gen Z, even millennials, are called boomer now.

Yes, the people who grew up on the SNES classics like DKC and Super Metroid and campaigned for K. Rool and Ridley in Smash in the 2010’s are the guys who were born in the 40’s when the soldiers came home from WWII and got busy.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I have been having trouble with the kids. And today I had an altercation with a co-worker.... I don’t know. Part of me feels like I deserve it.

What did the altercation involve?

The best thing you can do is apologize to that co-worker profusely and do your best to explain to your boss that it won't happen again and that you'll fight to be more mature.

 

[Noipoi]

I love how every one older than Gen Z, even millennials, are called boomer now.

Yes, the people who grew up on the SNES classics like DKC and Super Metroid and campaigned for K. Rool and Ridley in Smash in the 2010’s are the guys who were born in the 40’s when the soldiers came home from WWII and got busy.

Many WWII soldiers actually prayed for two things

1. That their children would never experience the horrors of war

2. That their children would get Banjo in Smash

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Not surprising that it’s not starting yet but worth sharing:

It’s going to release by Summer 2021 is my prediction.


Switch is supposed to go around 7 years, so 2017-2024.

Splatoon 1 gets content from 2015-2016, giving them time to have Splatoon 2 ready for Switch’s 2017 launch.

Splatoon 2 gets content from 2017-2019. They take two years off after this one so Sploon 3 can be noticeably bigger than Sploon 2, since “play Splatoon on the new system” can’t be a selling point anymore.

Splatoon 3 runs from 2021-2023, given them a year off afterwards to ready Splatoon 4 for the next system.

That’s my very-far-down-the-line prediction and it will be 100% correct.

 

[Deleted member]

I love how every one older than Gen Z, even millennials, are called boomer now.

Yes, the people who grew up on the SNES classics like DKC and Super Metroid and campaigned for K. Rool and Ridley in Smash in the 2010’s are the guys who were born in the 40’s when the soldiers came home from WWII and got busy.

To be fair, it doesn't help that the span of time that defines who's considered a 'Millenial' is ill-defined lol. I always thought 'Millenial' encompassed those who were pretty much raised on technology and grew up with it; people who would born in the late 90's and into 2000's. When i was in High School, it wasn't until my Junior year that Cell phones started to become a bit more common. I didn't even get one until my 1st year of College. Birth year wise, I'm considered a Millenial, but I don't really have any of their so-called traits. Neither does anyone else from my graduating class.

 

[Deleted member]

Think I said this before but I generally was underwhelmed by the first party characters in Smash 4. As someone whose primary gaming experiences came from the 90s and early 00s I felt a bit left out in that regard. The most exciting first party addition was actually the return of Mewtwo. Palutena was one of my wishlist characters at least. Mega Man and Cloud were god tier additions, but the dastardly duo's hype handily beats out every first party newcomer in Smash 4, no contest.

As someone who was born in the late 80s and started playing in the 90s I disagree. Little Mac was a great addition of one of the most interesting boxing games and I grew up playing Duck Hunt with the zapper, plus the whole murderous Villager schtick was fantastic and Shulk was from one of my favorite games (that was also brought in the west due to fan demand).

In all honesty, I feel at times both Ridley and K. Rool are overhyped up to a certain degree. They are nice additions but overall I feel that the strongest first party addition in Ultimate is Inkling by far.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Think I said this before but I generally was underwhelmed by the first party characters in Smash 4. As someone whose primary gaming experiences came from the 90s and early 00s I felt a bit left out in that regard. The most exciting first party addition was actually the return of Mewtwo. Palutena was one of my wishlist characters at least. Mega Man and Cloud were god tier additions, but the dastardly duo's hype handily beats out every first party newcomer in Smash 4, no contest.

What about Villager and Bowser Jr?

 

[Will]

you guys ever feel like Tlazōlteōtl the Aztec goddess of eating ****ing dirt

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Am I the only one who thinks Sm4sh looked like a beta version for Ultimate?

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Am I the only one who thinks Sm4sh looked like a beta version for Ultimate?

You know, anything is possible. With what you said, I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

today in DQB2

Me: *Fishing on a cliff on some rocks at night*

Reaper: *Comes to kill me, cant reach me, decided to watch me fish*

 

[TheMightyP]

DBZ Kakarot news for those who care. Knight Dude

Vegeta, Piccolo & Gohan: both playable & support characters.
Chaozu, Tenshinhan, Krillin & Yamcha: support only.

-Supports can help w/ actions based on player movements.
-Raise stats with food & battles.
-Enemies include smth like Pirate Robot at Undersea Base.



Playable characters: Cool.
Humans fighters not playable: Not cool. Krillin especially is a surprise given his prominence/importance.

So I guess in this image here Krillin is the support while Gohan is playable.

Spoiler

I wonder if...we'll get to attach a tail to Vegeta or Piccolo's ***.

I can understand Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu not being playable, but Krillin? He had a far larger role than Piccolo did in the Saiyan and Namek arc, and he was EXTREMELY important in the Android and Cell arc.

Really, the only time he didn't do much was in the Buu arc. It's weird that they left him out for some reason.

Also, where's Trunks?

 

[Cosmic77]

Think I said this before but I generally was underwhelmed by the first party characters in Smash 4. As someone whose primary gaming experiences came from the 90s and early 00s I felt a bit left out in that regard. The most exciting first party addition was actually the return of Mewtwo. Palutena was one of my wishlist characters at least. Mega Man and Cloud were god tier additions, but the dastardly duo's hype handily beats out every first party newcomer in Smash 4, no contest.

I actually somewhat agree with this, but for a slightly different reason.

For both the base game and the DLC, the most exciting additions were the first few reveals. I was so ecstatic when we got Villager, Mega Man, and Rosalina, and Mewtwo and Lucas gave me a good first impression of the DLC. After that though, things gradually got less and less exciting. None of the additions were characters I really wanted, and most of them were barely brought up in conversation until Gematsu.

My main issue wasn't with the era the characters came out though. I actually enjoy seeing modern franchises and characters getting more attention. No, the issue I had was the lack of attention the existing franchises got. More than ten new franchises were added onto the roster, but only Mario, Pokemon, FE, and KI got a character (Mario and Pokemon are the only ones I was genuinely interested in). Zelda didn't get anything, Metroid didn't get anything, nothing for Kirby, DK, Star Fox, Pikmin, and so on and so on.

Ultimate's done a way better job of distributing characters. Mario, Pokemon, Metroid, DK, FE, AC, and SF all got newcomers, but we also have five new franchises joining the roster. I'd say that's a pretty good balance.

 

[StormC]

What about Villager and Bowser Jr?

Koopalings were great. Never played AC.

As someone who was born in the late 80s and started playing in the 90s I disagree. Little Mac was a great addition of one of the most interesting boxing games and I grew up playing Duck Hunt with the zapper, plus the whole murderous Villager schtick was fantastic and Shulk was from one of my favorite games (that was also brought in the west due to fan demand).

In all honesty, I feel at times both Ridley and K. Rool are overhyped up to a certain degree. They are nice additions but overall I feel that the strongest first party addition in Ultimate is Inkling by far.

Punch-Out’s a fine game and Little Mac is a good addition but he’s too plain of a character for me to have been that excited about him. Duck Hunt was a neat surprise. Didn’t play Xenoblade.

K. Rool and Ridley are “overhyped” because they’re classic characters who should have been in a long time ago. Their absence in Smash 4 is very much felt. Imagine Melee without Bowser or Brawl without Wario. Not everyone is going to love them but they’re arguably the most long awaited Smash inclusions ever.

 

[Striga]

You ask me, all of the previous Smash titles feel inferior to Ultimate. It just blew the whole set out of the water, and it probably did the same to any future Smash titles.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

To be fair, it doesn't help that the span of time that defines who's considered a 'Millenial' is ill-defined lol. I always thought 'Millenial' encompassed those who were pretty much raised on technology and grew up with it; people who would born in the late 90's and into 2000's. When i was in High School, it wasn't until my Junior year that Cell phones started to become a bit more common. I didn't even get one until my 1st year of College. Birth year wise, I'm considered a Millenial, but I don't really have any of their so-called traits. Neither does anyone else from my graduating class.

Yeah millennials is just what anyone older than a millennial (even some earlier millennials) calls “the youth.”
From my understanding, millennials are people who had their “coming of age” around the turn of the century, but generation stuff is all loosely defined and almost meaningless.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Koopalings were great. Never played AC.

It just seemed like you were saying fans from the 90s and early 00s got nothing in Smash 4 when those 2 characters are pretty prominent representatives of that era.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I only got smash 4 because Villager was in it

 

[StormC]

It just seemed like you were saying fans from the 90s and early 00s got nothing in Smash 4 when those 2 characters are pretty prominent representatives of that era.

I didn’t say we got nothing. Just that it was underwhelming, especially coming off of Brawl.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I'd say Smash 4's biggest strength was in quantity of new characters and how said characters played much different than those that came before.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I can understand Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu not being playable, but Krillin? He had a far larger role than Piccolo did in the Saiyan and Namek arc, and he was EXTREMEMELY important in the Android and Cell arc.

Really, the only time he didn't do much was in the Buu arc. It's weird that they left him out for some reason.

Also, where's Trunks?

I guess they didn’t bother having Krillin because he didn’t really have any major solo fights (if any at all) in DBZ if I remember correctly, so they didn’t have to him playable to get all the story beats. I’m currently watching the Buu saga in Kai so my knowledge is limited, but as far as I know, in all the battles he was in, he was accompanied by one or more of the four playable characters.

With Vegeta and Nappa he was with Piccolo and Gohan. On Namek he never had a fight without Gohan. Same for the Androids/Cell saga fights he participated in, where he was definitely with the others.

As for Trunks, I think he’ll be playable. He was the only one who fought Mecha Frieza and King Cold, and he had his big fights against Semi-Perfect and Perfect Cell. They just haven’t officially revealed that the Cell and Buu saga will be playable yet (even though it seems to have been hinted at quite a few times), so they wouldn’t even reveal he’s in at all yet.

EDIT: Just remembered Android 16. I love him and his fight with Imperfect Cell is important as it shows Cell go to his Semiperfect form, but I don’t think they’ll make him playable just for that one fight. As upsetting as it is, I think that fight will just be a cutscene.

 

[Will]

Also, where's Trunks?

doesnt this game only go to the end of the frieza saga?

how else will you shill a sequel

 

[Gentlepanda]

no fear

one fear

 

[Will]

no fear

one fear

WHAT IS THE "INTELLIGENT" IN INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS YOU GACHA LOVING DEVS

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I agree that Smash 4 is the most forgettable entry, the most unique thing it did was being on two systems, but the two versions didn't really interact with each other in interesting ways, and I personally just shelved the 3DS version for good once the Wii U version came out. None of the new modes really stuck, and the gameplay was just almost there, but not really. Newcomer choices will always be super subjective, I think it had by far the least exciting bunch, and even now I barely ever play any of its newcomers, but I do see where others find the appeal in them (modern inclusions, surprises, bigshot 3rd parties, very unique playstyles), they just don't appeal to me personally.

However, I still think Brawl is a significantly worse game, because although it introduced my favorite content in the series to date and showed a lot of ambition, it fumbles by far the most important aspect, which is gameplay. How much this affects you depends on how you play the game of course, but 95% of my matches are itemless 1v1s on competitively viable stages, and the game is just not made for that, it feels clunky, restrictive, slow, and no characters other than Meta Knight can really do anything satisfying. Brawl's gameplay was bad back then, it's not just the power of hindsight that makes me say it's the worst, but it also needs to be said that it's aged horribly, Smash 4 and especially Ultimate have really exposed just how bad that game felt, in a way it's taken us two games to get us out of the whole Brawl dug. I also think the presentation was meh, not just the nitty gritty desaturated textures, but the sound design is also such a downgrade on Melee's, it packs no punch whatsoever. The primary reason Smash 4 isn't the worst for me is because it at least improved upon all of these things coming from Brawl, it didn't do them perfectly, but it still did them a lot better.

Such an important part of any fighting game is how it feels to play, both in terms of controls and presentation, the two best entries in the series in my opinion are Melee and Ultimate, and a big reason for that is because they excel at both, where as Smash 4 was so-so and Brawl just completely dropped the ball. Now, Brawl does have SSE, which is what a lot of people like to go back to it for, but for me it's best experienced by just watching the cutscenes on Youtube, which is the part people primarily care about anyway, so for me I don't think there's any reason to ever pick it up again, especially not with Project M being out there.

 

[BlueMonk]

on second thought, delete this