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Just... leave me be. I get it. I’m a freak. I don’t want to be sad when I leave a superhero movie. I like it when everything is able to work out in the end. I like it when there’s hope. But y’all just want the dark abyss to swallow us all while so it makes sense you want your superhero movies to be sad and depressing.
Ugh, not this again. You aren't a freak. You just have different preferences. That is normal for anyone.
 

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It's not that Endgame is "dark or depressing." It's that it has established rules and understanding the stakes and consequences through such rules that I like about it. Sure it broke one of those rules with Cap's bizarre decision at the end (which ultimately lowered this movie's ranking for me), but it still handled them well for the most part :yoshi:
 

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literally the only incentive to keep playing it but once you find that one combo that no one can beat, it's over.
That sounds like quitter talk.


Joking aside though, there's always room for improvement. Look at literally any speedrun ever.
 

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Just... leave me be. I get it. I’m a freak. I don’t want to be sad when I leave a superhero movie. I like it when everything is able to work out in the end. I like it when there’s hope. But y’all just want the dark abyss to swallow us all while so it makes sense you want your superhero movies to be sad and depressing.
OMG Snake no...You're not a freak...Please don't think that way. Calling yourself that hurts us more then beating yourself up...:(
 

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There's a storyline where Thanos kills literally everyone in the entire Marvel universe, with no reversal, just him and Death at the end. There's a lot more gruesome **** in it like him decapitating Galactus, Hulk being his pet and having eaten Steve Rogers, him bisecting Iron Man in the exposition of the comic, etc.
 

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Sincr we're talking Marvel movies again, I guess I'll state I had fun watching them gfowing up but the formula's getting old for me. I have favorites, Infinity War, The Winter Soldier, Guardians of The Galaxy, and Avengers, but I think Endgame was a decent ending for me stop watching them, despite my issues with it.
 

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It's not that Endgame is "dark or depressing." It's that it has established rules and understanding the stakes and consequences through such rules that I like about it. Sure it broke one of those rules with Cap's bizarre decision at the end (which ultimately lowered this movie's ranking for me), but it still handled them well for the most part :yoshi:
I'm almost certain that Cap actually lived his life PAST the point they re-met him as an old man and used one final Pym Particle to jump back to our present (now his past) without the need for the origin point. This solves most, if not all, of the problems.

People completing abandoning and hating their children when they come back definitely didn’t happen.

What parent would ever do that to their child unless they were seriously ****ed up? A parental bond is eternal. Those families were devasted and coming from a family myself who has lost a child and knows a lot of others in the same boat, I can guarantee you that to the parents, nothing would be bad if it brought their children back.
As for planes and cars, it’s established that they took passengers and put them closest to safety they could upon re entry. I’d even wager surgery patients probably were put back before they would have been cut up. Likely still needed surgery which would make for more patients, but it makes sense. However a bunch of planes, cars, boats, and trains are probably uninhabited. Which is kinda of sick because the ocean’s atmosphere would be pretty neat. Submariner when?
As for far from home I can’t really blame them. Everyone saw endgame, marvel didn’t need a recap of that. We all knew what happened and it wasn’t the story focus. Far from home also is set a few months after the blip so the world was getting back on track. There really shouldn’t be any more time spent on it. Peters breakdown later on and need to save his loved ones and friends is driven hard in this movie because of the events of endgame. Endgame is the entire driving plot for the movie. So I’d say they captured it pretty well and touched upon it without going overboard. No one wants to sit in a sob fest for the entire film. Alternative realities were literally out of the question though. The ancient one says as much because that’s literally the truth. They would destroy other worlds if they didn’t take the measures they would. Even in the comics the gauntlet is not god, it can’t fix everything or do anything. It’s been used many times. The movie touches upon this comic fact but I suppose it would have been better if we were given that info more upfront.


Especially marvel. Some of the **** they wrote is really ****ed Up like how Deadpool isn’t actually Wade Wilson and he:
Brutally murdered the original one and his family after they took him in to help him at one point. Not to mention how he has locked people in his attic for quite some time torturing them.

Comic Deadpool was pretty ****ed up. And that’s just one example. Another would be that time peter becomes a zombie and kills and devours aunt May and Mary Jane. Or multi man’s entire story arcs.

Marvel gets very very dark, so endgame really wasn’t even scrapping the surface of some of it.
Did you see that a new Marvel Zombies is starting in October?!
Well since this Lupin leak is pretty much a bust now, and it looks like it will just be a simple amiibo patch, I'm guessing Hero will be released around the 29th since that's when DQ11's anniversary.
The Leak says "10am pst July 17th," that's tomorrow. The leak isn't dead yet. It could still be a shadow drop or that could be when the overview trailer drops.
 

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Except that’s not how it works in the comics. Sure, the stones by themselves can do that. But the gauntlet is supposed to make it safe for anyone to use. They changed the rules just to force this narrative. Which is another thing I have s problem with altogether.


I actually don’t like the Dark Knight trilogy. And Logan... I watched it in a plane while I was tired. I pretty much just didn’t react to it.

Just... leave me be. I get it. I’m a freak. I don’t want to be sad when I leave a superhero movie. I like it when everything is able to work out in the end. I like it when there’s hope. But y’all just want the dark abyss to swallow us all while so it makes sense you want your superhero movies to be sad and depressing.
I mean, the actual gauntlet was damaged in the initial snap and that’s why the second one nearly killed Thanos. And Tony made the second gauntlet which was different from the initial one so it likely wouldn’t have functioned the same regardless.

And that’s not what we want. We want to see hope come through in the darkest of times no matter how big or small it may seem, that’s why we want to see these dark and depressing moments, because it’ll take more work for hope to shine through. It’s not always gonna be easy and it really shouldn’t be, even if not everything works out in the end, we want to see these heroes push on. And for the most part there is some level of hope in all those movies we mentioned before. Sadness and happiness are both big parts of life, and we need them both to keep our lives moving.
 

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I mean, the actual gauntlet was damaged in the initial snap and that’s why the second one nearly killed Thanos. And Tony made the second gauntlet which was different from the initial one so it likely wouldn’t have functioned the same regardless.

And that’s not what we want. We want to see hope come through in the darkest of times no matter how big or small it may seem, that’s why we want to see these dark and depressing moments, because it’ll take more work for hope to shine through. It’s not always gonna be easy and it really shouldn’t be, even if not everything works out in the end, we want to see these heroes push on. And for the most part there is some level of hope in all those movies we mentioned before. Sadness and happiness are both big parts of life, and we need them both to keep our lives moving.
Of course. You can't have life without sadness. That's just how life works nowadays. Personally, I believe that why bad things happen to good people is because things are just beyond our control. If we had control over those things, and everything was happy, life would be pointless and dull. You have to have sadness in life at times, whether you like it or not, for is what helps us develop as people.
 

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I mean, the actual gauntlet was damaged in the initial snap and that’s why the second one nearly killed Thanos. And Tony made the second gauntlet which was different from the initial one so it likely wouldn’t have functioned the same regardless.

And that’s not what we want. We want to see hope come through in the darkest of times no matter how big or small it may seem, that’s why we want to see these dark and depressing moments, because it’ll take more work for hope to shine through. It’s not always gonna be easy and it really shouldn’t be, even if not everything works out in the end, we want to see these heroes push on. And for the most part there is some level of hope in all those movies we mentioned before. Sadness and happiness are both big parts of life, and we need them both to keep our lives moving.
Jesus.

I didn't expect something soo profound tonight.
 
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There's a storyline where Thanos kills literally everyone in the entire Marvel universe, with no reversal, just him and Death at the end. There's a lot more gruesome **** in it like him decapitating Galactus, Hulk being his pet and having eaten Steve Rogers, him bisecting Iron Man in the exposition of the comic, etc.
I have no idea why Marvel keeps writing bad comics like this
 

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I like it when **** gets dark, that makes the happy ending even happier.
This reminded me of something
When my friend and I left Annabelle Comes Home, she said "I don't like when horror movies have happy endings." My response was "??? What the hell? Why?"
 

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There's a storyline where Thanos kills literally everyone in the entire Marvel universe, with no reversal, just him and Death at the end. There's a lot more gruesome **** in it like him decapitating Galactus, Hulk being his pet and having eaten Steve Rogers, him bisecting Iron Man in the exposition of the comic, etc.
Lemme guess, Ultimates universe?

I dunno why that universe is so obsessed with cannibalism.
 

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Ugh, not this again. You aren't a freak. You just have different preferences. That is normal for anyone.
OMG Snake no...You're not a freak...Please don't think that way. Calling yourself that hurts us more then beating yourself up...:(
I feel like it. A lot of the time. I just... I don’t know. I’m starting with a new therapist tomorrow. Maybe that will help. I wish I could find more people who shared my opinions.
I mean, the actual gauntlet was damaged in the initial snap and that’s why the second one nearly killed Thanos. And Tony made the second gauntlet which was different from the initial one so it likely wouldn’t have functioned the same regardless.

And that’s not what we want. We want to see hope come through in the darkest of times no matter how big or small it may seem, that’s why we want to see these dark and depressing moments, because it’ll take more work for hope to shine through. It’s not always gonna be easy and it really shouldn’t be, even if not everything works out in the end, we want to see these heroes push on. And for the most part there is some level of hope in all those movies we mentioned before. Sadness and happiness are both big parts of life, and we need them both to keep our lives moving.
What can I say except... I disagree. I know I can’t expect them to do exactly what I want. But I can’t be expected to say something like that is good just because everyone else likes it.
 

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What I find funny is that Endgame didn't even have the most illogical bull**** time travel plot in the MCU...

Aw hell no don't tell me AOS tried to pull a time travel plot

Anyway, one other thing that was a major disappointment to me in Endgame. Thanos. Let's be real, the Thanos we wanted to see get snapped is not the one that got snapped. The one we wanted to see get snapped was the one that instead went out on his own terms basically, which was really unsatisfying. I wanted the same Thanos that actually killed half of all life in the universe to see his work be undone, and die knowing he ultimately failed even after succeeding initially. Instead he went out knowing he accomplished what he set out to do while blissfully ignorant to the fact that it would be undone in 5 years. It's bothersome.
 

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  1. I thought Far From Home handled the aftermath well. Reference it, but don’t get bogged down in all the darker themes that an event like that would bring. Keep the MCU fun.
  2. Pretty sure Cap lived in an alternate timeline then jumped back to say goodbye
 

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Speaking of what Shroob Shroob said about Wademan94 Wademan94 's post being profound, I believe profound is defined as something that is very great and intense. Well, sadness can make life very great and intense, especially when you overcome it and don't let it get to you. We become stronger by overcoming sadness, and sadness itself adds to life more than what happiness alone can do, as well as obstacles, darkness and all. So sadness is at least one of the things that can make life a great experience. It may not be what we want, but it has a purpose, and is there for a reason.
 

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I'm almost certain that Cap actually lived his life PAST the point they re-met him as an old man and used one final Pym Particle to jump back to our present (now his past) without the need for the origin point. This solves most, if not all, of the problems.
I think it was stated by the Russo brothers that was the case, though even with that in mind they should've shown it in the movie proper. Even something as simple as them hearing him warp back at the bench would've helped in establishing that he didn't exist in the prime dimension that whole time, rather then having old Steve sit there as if he walked back from a daily stroll.
 
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It always bothers me when someone says "well, that's not how it works in the comics."

Yes, well in the comics Thor is basically a spirit that possesses a host and turns them into Thor, Bucky was a child during World War 2, MJ's name isn't Michelle, Tony has a brother, Ego isn't Star Lord's father, Hank Pym is a founding member of The Avengers and the creator of Ultron, and the Skrulls are EVIL.

The movies and comics are fundamentally different, they have similar characters and vaguely similar stories, but they are very different.
 
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