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[N3ON]

Except that’s not how it works in the comics. Sure, the stones by themselves can do that. But the gauntlet is supposed to make it safe for anyone to use. They changed the rules just to force this narrative. Which is another thing I have s problem with altogether.

If you want to nit-pick the differences between comics and movies, you'd have to start waaay before Endgame. It's also strange to reconcile an insistence on comic accuracy when the tone of some comics have been greatly sanitized when made into movies. Like, Civil War in the comics is not some little "anybody got any orange slices?" scrap that ends without fatalities.

I actually don’t like the Dark Knight trilogy. And Logan... I watched it in a plane while I was tired. I pretty much just didn’t react to it.

Just... leave me be. I get it. I’m a freak. I don’t want to be sad when I leave a superhero movie. I like it when everything is able to work out in the end. I like it when there’s hope. But y’all just want the dark abyss to swallow us all while so it makes sense you want your superhero movies to be sad and depressing.

You're not going to convince anyone with hyperbole.

There is usually hope. The Dark Knight ends with Batman taking the blame so Gotham doesn't lose public morale. The Joker's boat plan fails because no one gives in to violence, showing peoples' inherent "good". In Logan, Wolverine sacrifices himself to provide the children with freedom. They're not quite a simple as "good guy wins" but they're not hopeless.

It's fine if you prefer more lighthearted fare, but to call it bad or to bemoan its existence when other people enjoy that kind of (usually more realistic) storytelling is, at the very least, going to invite contention.

 

[StormC]

Sometimes dark or sad stories connect to us on a human level that we don't get otherwise. Sometimes they get us out of a dark place in our lives and make us appreciate what we have. Sometimes they make us think about the world a little differently. Tragedy has existed basically ever since storytelling has existed, and for good reason. Saying "we want the dark abyss to swallow us whole" is pretty dismissive of how humans have across millennia responded to one of our oldest cultural traditions.

It's certainly existed in superhero stories for a long, long, long time.

 

[Noipoi]

I learned that wasps taste like chicken.

False

Wasps taste like evil, because they are pure evil in insect form.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I feel like it. A lot of the time. I just... I don’t know. I’m starting with a new therapist tomorrow. Maybe that will help. I wish I could find more people who shared my opinions.

Just promise to stay strong as I said. Again you have friends here for you.

 

[Wademan94]

Speaking of what @Shroob said about Wademan94 's post being profound, I believe profound is defined as something that is very great and intense. Well, sadness can make life very great and intense, especially when you overcome it and don't let it get to you. We become stronger by overcoming sadness, and sadness itself adds to life more than what happiness alone can do, as well as obstacles, darkness and all. So sadness is at least one of the things that can make life a great experience. It may not be what we want, but it has a purpose, and is there for a reason.

Inside Out touched upon this topic greatly and I agree, trying to go through life being afraid of loss or just feeling sad will keep you from enjoying the rest of life.

oh you meant comic books

i thought you were eating actual wasps

Why did you think I mentioned Janet?

 

[StormC]

Here's a really good comic about the benefit of those kinds of stories. (Too long to link here.)

 

[Double K]

Oh since we're talking about Heroes, why not talk about the most hopeful Heroes? Symphogear?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5l2wBEWNKc

 

[ZephyrZ]

So I went ahead and spend my afternoon making another mini-montage.

I hope a couple of you take the time to watch it.

 

[Wademan94]

Like, Civil War in the comics is not some little "anybody got any orange slices?" scrap that ends without fatalities.

Through considering how the comic handled the issues it was trying to portray, I don’t blame the movie for giving that storyline a complete overhaul.

 

[Will]

Through considering how the comic handled the issues it was trying to portray, I don’t blame the movie for giving that storyline a complete overhaul.

but are they gonna make that the same with civil war 2

are they gonna make carol a saint

 

[StormC]

Speaking of tragedy... (Stranger Things season 3 spoilers)

Spoiler

Just watched the second to last episode... Alexei...

 

[Striga]

but are they gonna make that the same with civil war 2

are they gonna make carol a saint

Assuming there even is a Civil War 2 in the works. But given how bad the actual CW2 is, I welcome a story overhaul.
EDIT: How will they do that without Iron Man? Because, you know....

 

[Will]

Assuming there even is a Civil War 2 in the works. But given how bad the actual CW2 is, I welcom a story overhaul.

they gave brie the combover hairdo

its impending

 

[Double K]

https://streamable.com/gto8w

Goddamn, Symphogear is such a great show about heroes fighting to help others and for hope, and forgiving others.

y'all should watch it

 

[Striga]

they gave brie the combover hairdo

its impending

Well like I said, I don't know how they'll do it without Iron Man. Endgame kinda shot a lot of potential MCU stories in the foot.

 

[Noipoi]

So I went ahead and spend my afternoon making another mini-montage.

I hope a couple of you take the time to watch it.

1:51

I see you

 

[Will]

Well like I said, I don't know how they'll do it without Iron Man. Endgame kinda shot a lot of potential MCU stories in the foot.

if they can overhaul civil war they can overhaul riri williams to be actually liked by people

 

[Zinith]

Well like I said, I don't know how they'll do it without Iron Man. Endgame kinda shot a lot of potential MCU stories in the foot.

Well we'll see in a few days at SDCC

 

[Shadowwolflink]

but are they gonna make that the same with civil war 2

are they gonna make carol a saint

Considering the Inhumans have been swept under the carpet and the fact that Civil War 2 wasn't recieved that well, I'm gonna go ahead and guess they just won't do a movie. They already had a character on Agents of SHIELD who had a similar power set to Ulysses Caine anyway.

 

[Striga]

if they can overhaul civil war they can overhaul riri williams to be actually liked by people

Eh, I wouldn't bet on that lmao.
I'm honestly more interested how they'll handle the X-Men and Fantastic Four.

 

[Wademan94]

Just to add a bit of levity to the thread here.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I am SO glad none of you heard the girly noise I made when I first saw this.

if they can overhaul civil war they can overhaul riri williams to be actually liked by people

I mean they did that to Miles in Spiderverse.

 

[Noipoi]

Eh, I wouldn't bet on that lmao.
I'm honestly more interested how they'll handle the X-Men and Fantastic Four.

The X men will be tricky, Hugh Jackman is iconic.

But they can do anything with the fantastic four and it’d be better than the movies they got before.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I hope we get Spawn gameplay revealed at SDCC in Mortal Kombat 11. Only fitting given he's a comic book character.

Maybe perhaps we'll get something at EVO.

 

[Wademan94]

The X men will be tricky, Hugh Jackman is iconic.

But they can do anything with the fantastic four and it’d be better than the movies they got before.

I hope that solo Doom film gets greenlit.

 

[ZephyrZ]

1:51

I see you

Uhhh yes that was 100% intentional, all according to keikaku.

 

[Striga]

The X men will be tricky, Hugh Jackman is iconic.

I think Jackman himself once saod he'd be willing to reprise Wolverine in the MCU, though I could be wrong on that.

But they can do anything with the fantastic four and it’d be better than the movies they got before.

Christ, ain't that the truth.

 

[StormC]

My favorite endings tend to be of the bittersweet side. It's hard to do a "good guys lose" ending really well and make the payoff seem worth it (more acceptable in shorter stories with less time investment), but if the win is too easy and without enough struggle and sacrifice, it won't feel earned. Bittersweet is right down the middle. Although I have some issues with the logistics of the time travel, on an emotional level, Endgame's ending is perfect in that regard (although it does seem sorta insane that in that huge battle only one named character died).

My favorite all time TV finales would have to be Gurren Lagann and Cowboy Bebop.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

My favorite endings tend to be of the bittersweet side. It's hard to do a "good guys lose" ending really well and make the payoff seem worth it (more acceptable in shorter stories with less time investment), but if the win is too easy and without enough struggle and sacrifice, it won't feel earned. Bittersweet is right down the middle. Although I have some issues with the logistics of the time travel, on an emotional level, Endgame's ending is perfect in that regard (although it does seem sorta insane that in that huge battle only one named character died).

My favorite all time TV finales would have to be Gurren Lagann and Cowboy Bebop.

Nice picks.

For me, my favorite tv finale at the moment is probably Breaking Bad. FMA:Brotherhood is in the mix as well.

 

[DevaAshera]

I see, I thought the Awakening stuff was just weird multi-verse shenanigans, didn't realize they were in the same world.

Yup, if you talk to as during the battle in 'Before Awakening', he asks from where she hails and she says he's likely never heard of Hoshido or Nohr and this is his reaction.

This has a funny little side-effect that likely makes it so Serena, Owain, and Inigo likely became the originators of their family lines (as can kinda be seen if you have Serena/Selena as Caeldori's mother considering how she looks identical to Cordelia and Selena is one of, if not the only, mother to unique dialogue with their child in Fates (which, to me, makes it seem as though she is meant to be the canonical mother to Caeldori).

 

[TheCJBrine]

No sadness at all means something is wrong.

Some things that cause sadness we should be able to live without, even if it makes us stronger.

Don’t tell me there aren’t things y’all wish never happened but that y’all could still keep the good that came from it somehow.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So given the current topic. There's plans to have Keanu Reeves play an character in the MCU.

Only question is who should he play?

 

[StormC]

I said earlier that I consider Endgame to be the weakest of the four Russo Bros movies, largely because of issues regarding the handling of Thanos and Black Widow, pacing and the confusion over time travel at the end... but as an ending to the last decade of the MCU it's hard to imagine something much better than what we got. I was worried they would drop the ball somehow, maybe make it too easy, too happy of a win, but they delivered hardcore. It's one of those endings people will talk about for years, especially that closing shot.

Endings are really, really, really difficult. It's hard to make an ending that both feels like it pays off what the story's been building up to... while also giving a sense of weight, a sense of curiosity, a sense of wonder. The best endings recontextualize the entire story and give it a new meaning, or even leave us asking questions without feeling like we were left out of something important, and Endgame definitely does just that.

 

[Double K]

So given the current topic. There's plans to have Keanu Reeves play an character in the MCU.

Only question is who should he play?

Green Goblin

 

[Z25]

I'm almost certain that Cap actually lived his life PAST the point they re-met him as an old man and used one final Pym Particle to jump back to our present (now his past) without the need for the origin point. This solves most, if not all, of the problems.


Did you see that a new Marvel Zombies is starting in October?!

The Leak says "10am pst July 17th," that's tomorrow. The leak isn't dead yet. It could still be a shadow drop or that could be when the overview trailer drops.

I haven’t, I’ll have to check that out. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Zinith]

So given the current topic. There's plans to have Keanu Reeves play an character in the MCU.

Only question is who should he play?

Hit-Monkey

 

[Z25]

So given the current topic. There's plans to have Keanu Reeves play an character in the MCU.

Only question is who should he play?

Himself. John Wicke From Fortnite is an actually super hero in the mcu now.

Spoiler

Not sure but he could pull off a good villain. I’d say Osborn, but it be more fitting if the leader of the convienant in John wicke would be a good as Osborn imo

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

The X men will be tricky, Hugh Jackman is iconic.

But they can do anything with the fantastic four and it’d be better than the movies they got before.

Ya see.

Spoiler: Far From Home

They were able to get back J. K. Simmons for his iconic role. An academy award winning actor who originally starred in the franchise literally a decade ago decided to come back.

After that I feel like somehow someway they could manage to talk Jackman back into the part for the MCU. Not even kidding. I think we could legit see the OG cast - Jackman, Stewart, McKellan - all return for one last big hoorah as a big X-Men welcome to the MCU thing.

And John Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic and Emily Blunt as Invisible Woman is perfect casting. Throw in The Rock as The Thing and maybe Zac Efron as Human Torch and hot diddly damn I'm on board the MCU train for a looooong time.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Hit-Monkey

*Looks up*

Yep I'm down. Bradley Cooper did Rocket. Keeves Reanu should do Hit Monkey.

 

[Z25]

Hit-Monkey

Isn’t this the monkey getting a show alongside Howard the duck, modock and the other character who I can’t think of?

 

[Zinith]

Isn’t this the monkey getting a show alongside Howard the duck, modock and the other character who I can’t think of?

Tigra and Dazzler. They'll make up "the Offenders..."

Each of them will be run by a different widely known comedian which kinda worries me tbh