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[MBRedboy31]

Dude I don't get this game. It has no clear linear path, enemies jump in difficulty per room, and you don't even know it until you fight it, and the game doesn't explain what does what.

This isn't difficulty. This is just blind.

I thought this was an intentionally poor description of playing Smash online quickplay at first.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

I could see there being one or two echoes after the pass, but no more than that. I wouldn't be rooting for any specific ones though.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Dude I don't get this game. It has no clear linear path, enemies jump in difficulty per room, and you don't even know it until you fight it, and the game doesn't explain what does what.

This isn't difficulty. This is just blind.

It's honestly not that bad.

The whole game is built around learning from experience, reading up on the minute details of lore, and a grand trail-and-error system that ultimately leaves you feeling rewarded when your sense of progression has peaked and you can handle bosses amd traverse treacherous terrain like it comes naturally to you.

Like the Chosen Undead, you are suddenlu thrown into this world of chaos that you have to fight your way through no matter the odds. Your will is your greatest weapon... and a good stat distribution plus big large weapons and armor and backstabbing.

Good luck.

 

[Wademan94]

I’m sorry if this has been shared before:
https://twitter.com/FizzySodaWave/status/1193527375033720832
But I love this already.

Nah, don't think it's feasible either, Leon still got a different build than Jill due to being a man and all that.

If a RE character got in, it's either 1 or no one imo.

I mean as well as & ,

And Protoman would make for a great Echo Fighter.

Maybe he could inherit some of Mega Man’s Smash 4 customers specials? And if they can’t do his shield like in his games or out like Link’s maybe he could have it permanently on his back and have it block projectiles from behind like a permanent Back Shield?

 

[Z25]

If we’re still talking about that quote from the Shantae thread, that was confirmed to be about a mod a guy did. Nothing to do with actual files relating to DLC characters.

I don’t know if that’s actually what’s happening but I figured I would mention it.

No we are talking about the last two sound file slots that need to be filled now that terry took another and how that could relate to a duo character like Leon and Jill or Phoenix and Apollo as alts with different voices.

I literally got up and did a lap when I saw Sonic so as to make sure it was real and still there when I returned. xD

I wonder when they would've revealed him had he never necessitated a delay.


I mean, Ultimate is the only one that didn't really have dead periods (at least pre-release). I guess you could consider the duration between reveal to E3 "dead", but it was nothing compared to some of the stretches for the previous two. That's what happens when you don't announce the project three years in advance, lol.

And even the Dedede to Olimar drought was still better than most weeks for PotD, let's be real haha.


The fact that the banner obscured who the character was was the best part (usually).

I’m guessing since he was the only other third party, maybe in the initial reveal trailer? If not I’m not sure.

 

[Lamperouge]

I still want to know what the deal was with those "Jane" files attached to Joker.

Maybe we can still get a Kasumi echo for P5 Royal's western release?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I'm having a discussion with you. I wouldn't argue something that I don't think is true because I like the character involved. I would love Gruntilda and Dr. Eggman to be playable in Smash but I know the chances of that are less than zero. Attempting objectivity when discussing Smash isn't a bad thing. People can disagree, and that's fine, but if you feel I've stepped out of line or insulted you, please let me know, because I haven't attempted anything but to have a discussion about Smash in a Smash discussion thread.

Look. I’m just frustrated and confused. The reasoning I’ve heard contradicts itself from sentence to sentence and I can’t really argue against the points that actually do make sense. But I haven’t lost because nothing I’ve said is wrong either and I’m just frustrated and confused.

 

[Deleted member]

(Fortnite).

In all seriousness, I pretty much agree with you 100% on this one.

 

[Rangez]

My early high school life was pretty rough and I got into a trouble with a few kids here and there. The rest was pretty okay.

Oh, and you might want to edit out a certain word out of that image.

Yeah, I know. Fixed that up with a link.

 

[StormC]

I still want to know what the deal was with those "Jane" files attached to Joker.

Maybe we can still get a Kasumi echo for P5 Royal's western release?

A dataminer said it was possibly the animation file for Joker's coat.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I still want to know what the deal was with those "Jane" files attached to Joker.

Maybe we can still get a Kasumi echo for P5 Royal's western release?

I genuinely think Kasumi started as a female protagonist option, maybe with the male character still existing in the story and vice versa. But then plans changed and her nature changed. Meaning she wouldn’t work for Smash anymore.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Look. We don’t know how he prioritizes things. That quote is the only glimpse we have ever had into the selection process. So it’s the only thing we can go off besides rules that we made up. So anyone is likely as long as they would be fun to play as. We don’t know who he would prioritize. And frankly, I’m having trouble comprehending why your fighting me on this when you like the characters? Like, why would you argue against a character you like? That’s all we’re doing at the end of the day. Talking about the characters we like and why we think they’d be cool in Smash.

I see the sentiment, but this simply isn't true.

It's not possible for everybody to be likely. There's one sport left in the Fighter Pass. Only one, out of several options, is possible for that spot. It's impossible for all to be "likely".

When it comes to post-pass fighters, regardless of how it turns out, not everyone can be "likely". It depends on perspective. If Sakurai doesn't upgrade anybody, then that means Spirit upgrades are unlikely.

This really isn't my argument to have, but I felt the need to just mention this as well, but mistaking desire will probability isn't a good thing to confuse. I can talk forever about how much I want a character to happen. That's what I did with Snake in Wii U. I turned out to be wrong, and I was mad at myself for fooling myself into believing it.

Just because I think 2B would be a great Fighter Pass pick doesn't make her "likely". We already got a Square Pick. CERO cracks down on sexuality in some ways. Those are counter arguments I can agree with and acknowledge. To not acknowledge those things means we become bullheaded, and a brick wall, which makes it not nearly as enjoyable as it can be to speculate on characters.

We can say a character is cool. But just because they're cool doesn't mean they're "likely". Those are two different things entirely.

 

[Deleted member]

Dude I don't get this game. It has no clear linear path, enemies jump in difficulty per room, and you don't even know it until you fight it, and the game doesn't explain what does what.

This isn't difficulty. This is just blind.

You talking about Dark Souls, right?

That's kinda the point of the game, the game doesn't guide you. at all. It quite literally says "We don't care, do it yourself"

 

[kirbsmash]

I mean as well as & ,

Why do you have an echo fighter in with these alts??

 

[Wademan94]

Why do you have an echo fighter in with these alts??

Because they’re different genders with physical differences?

 

[StormC]

Look. I’m just frustrated and confused. The reasoning I’ve heard contradicts itself from sentence to sentence and I can’t really argue against the points that actually do make sense. But I haven’t lost because nothing I’ve said is wrong either and I’m just frustrated and confused.

Here's my tl;dr stance:

-Not every fun or popular character can make it in, so Sakurai's statement really doesn't mean much
-Digimon's legacy as a video game series is not especially significant, and Sakurai wants Smash to be a celebration of gaming
-There are several other Namco characters and series with a lot more going for them that make it tough to picture Agumon getting prioritized

I'm willing to eat crow if I'm wrong on this, lord knows I've done that a lot in Smash speculation, but that's my stance as of now.

 

[Metal Shop X]

I’m sorry if this has been shared before:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

But I love this already.



I mean as well as & ,



Maybe he could inherit some of Mega Man’s Smash 4 customers specials? And if they can’t do his shield like in his games or out like Link’s maybe he could have it permanently on his back and have it block projectiles from behind like a permanent Back Shield?

In Marth & Lucina cases, both are pretty slendy & Lucina design is based around Marth, which make it easier to work around.

For the others, their build don't change that much between the two and their personalities are overall the same. (that and they are costume, not echo, and costume share the exact same animation as the OG, so beside if you give them really generic animation, it jsut wouldn't fit)

Leon & Jill have both have very distinct personalities & probably don't match the same build, plus their fighting style are quit different if the attack you get by shooting a enemy limbs indicate anything, they even use the knife differently! (Jill is a quick thrust, while Leon is a slow wide arc in front of him)

I'm not trying to be a grinch or anything, I love to see RE rep, but I just can't see it working in my head.

 

[N3ON]

I’m guessing since he was the only other third party, maybe in the initial reveal trailer? If not I’m not sure.

Well he wasn't in the game at that point, he wasn't added until 2007. But if he had been... idk. That's kinda playing both aces at once, still makes more sense to save one of them.

Maybe E3 2007? They didn't actually show any character there, which was strange. Though even back then the release was still targeted for December of that year, that's when they announced it.

Ah well, who knows. All I remember is this being a fairly accurate depiction of my reaction to the second delay:

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

The only thing I ever truly was 100% on with Ultimate after Ridley's reveal was that King K. Rool would be coming after him.

Sure enough I was right. I know it's not good to delude yourself with "100% picks" but that was the only time I really felt it and I'm so glad Sakurai was gracious enough to give it to me.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

No we are talking about the last two sound file slots that need to be filled now that terry took another and how that could relate to a duo character like Leon and Jill or Phoenix and Apollo as alts with different voices.

I’m guessing since he was the only other third party, maybe in the initial reveal trailer? If not I’m not sure.

Do you mean from the sound menu in-game? Or something else?

I wouldn’t look too much into that if that’s the case. A blank space won’t meaning anything considering the stage select screen will also have an empty gap if I remember right.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I see the sentiment, but this simply isn't true.

It's not possible for everybody to be likely. There's one sport left in the Fighter Pass. Only one, out of several options, is possible for that spot. It's impossible for all to be "likely".

When it comes to post-pass fighters, regardless of how it turns out, not everyone can be "likely". It depends on perspective. If Sakurai doesn't upgrade anybody, then that means Spirit upgrades are unlikely.

This really isn't my argument to have, but I felt the need to just mention this as well, but mistaking desire will probability isn't a good thing to confuse. I can talk forever about how much I want a character to happen. That's what I did with Snake in Wii U. I turned out to be wrong, and I was mad at myself for fooling myself into believing it.

Just because I think 2B would be a great Fighter Pass pick doesn't make her "likely". We already got a Square Pick. CERO cracks down on sexuality in some ways. Those are counter arguments I can agree with and acknowledge. To not acknowledge those things means we become bullheaded, and a brick wall, which makes it not nearly as enjoyable as it can be to speculate on characters.

We can say a character is cool. But just because they're cool doesn't mean they're "likely". Those are two different things entirely.

I guess I agree with what your saying on some level. But I still maintain that, since we don’t know how the characters are being picked, that that last slot could conceivably be anyone. The rule about one company not getting two characters in the pass? We made it up and it could very well be wrong. Just one of many. So until we know the selection criteria, we can’t say who’s likely or not. We just don’t know.

 

[Cosmic77]

Reminder that Mario Kart Tour was a mistake.

Spoiler

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Here's my tl;dr stance:

-Not every fun or popular character can make it in, so Sakurai's statement really doesn't mean much
-Digimon's legacy as a video game series is not especially significant, and Sakurai wants Smash to be a celebration of gaming
-There are several other Namco characters and series with a lot more going for them that make it tough to picture Agumon getting prioritized

I'm willing to eat crow if I'm wrong on this, lord knows I've done that a lot in Smash speculation, but that's my stance as of now.

I can’t argue against those points other then I just don’t think they’re right. So what, am I just wrong? Have I lost?

 

[Z25]

Do you mean from the sound menu in-game? Or something else?

I wouldn’t look too much into that if that’s the case. A blank space won’t meaning anything considering the stage select screen will also have an empty gap if I remember right.

Yes the sound menu thing I believe it is. I think it’s getting filled and iirc the stage select screen actually was filled because of the stage builder icon I believe it is.

 

[StormC]

I can’t argue against those points other then I just don’t think they’re right. So what, am I just wrong? Have I lost?

You disagree. There don't have to be winners or losers in a discussion.

 

[Aurane]

Like, I paid $43 for this, so you can bet your ass I will beat it, but this wasn't what I was expecting.

 

[Deleted member]

Dude I don't get this game. It has no clear linear path, enemies jump in difficulty per room, and you don't even know it until you fight it, and the game doesn't explain what does what.

This isn't difficulty. This is just blind.

Play patiently, and don't panic. Stay back from enemies and learn their patterns and attacks before engaging for real. Make sure to explore everywhere, the game doesn't tell you where to go but most areas are pretty linear with a few sidepaths.
Dark Souls is very hard to start with but it slowly gets easier and the feeling you get when the game finally clicks is awesome.

 

[Aurane]

Play patiently, and don't panic. Stay back from enemies and learn their patterns and attacks before engaging for real. Make sure to explore everywhere, the game doesn't tell you where to go but most areas are pretty linear with a few sidepaths.
Dark Souls is very hard to start with but it slowly gets easier and the feeling you get when the game finally clicks is awesome.

I get that, but once again, not what I was expecting.

I really feel mixed up when people recommended this game to me.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

You disagree. There don't have to be winners or losers in a discussion.

Then what's the point?

Play patiently, and don't panic. Stay back from enemies and learn their patterns and attacks before engaging for real. Make sure to explore everywhere, the game doesn't tell you where to go but most areas are pretty linear with a few sidepaths.
Dark Souls is very hard to start with but it slowly gets easier and the feeling you get when the game finally clicks is awesome.

I take it from your sig that you like Borderlands? Is that true? And if it is, what Borderlands character do you think would be cool in Smash?

 

[Gentlepanda]

first dark souls run: moving slowly and carefully, fearing every corner, making a mad dash every time you see a bonfire and praying there's no enemies lurking in the shadows

fourth dark souls run:

 

[StormC]

Then what's the point?

To learn more about others' viewpoints and about Smash and the industry as a whole.

Also, keeps the brain sharp.

Discussion doesn't have a "point." Everything we do here is meaningless except what significance we impose on it. People have discussions because they find them fun and/or mentally engaging, even if they disagree.

 

[Shroob]

How many days is it til the game awards anyway? Is it December 6th like last year?

 

[Metal Shop X]

Getting late here, tomorrow I have work, so I say to all of you good night and hope you have a great time here!

For me.

My peoples need me.

 

[Aurane]

Okay wtf is the point of humanity? How about that?

Edit: this is a really weird question out of context. Lol

 

[Rangez]

How many days is it til the game awards anyway? Is it December 6th like last year?

Actually, it's supposed to start on the 12th of next month.

 

[Shroob]

Actually, it's supposed to start on the 12th of next month.

Ah, well that sucks.

 

[Megadoomer]

How many days is it til the game awards anyway? Is it December 6th like last year?

December 12th (a Thursday), at 8:30-10:30 pm eastern time.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Actually, it's supposed to start on the 12th of next month.

So it's a little over a month away. I'm gonna try to watch, but I'll be in the middle of exams.

Every time I say that I'm reminded of Persona.

Persona spin-off set in the states please. I'll dev it if I have to.

 

[Aurane]

Ah, well that sucks.

It's not like they're going to show something interesting anyways. :X

 

[Deleted member]

I take it from your sig that you like Borderlands? Is that true? And if it is, what Borderlands character do you think would be cool in Smash?

Lilith. She's the closest thing to a main character the series has ever had and I can't envision any of the other playable vault hunters being represented in Smash in a way that would be satisfying.
Or you could go with Claptrap but why the **** would anyone want to choose Claptrap

Okay wtf is the point of humanity? How about that?

Edit: this is a really weird question out of context. Lol

When you die you go hollow, which prevents you from summoning help from either NPCs or other human players but also prevents you from being invaded. Humanity is the thing that reverses hollowing. So you can use humanity at a bonfire to restore your humanity, but it can also be used to kindle bonfires to give you extra estus flask uses from that specific bonfire, or as a full heal if you're in dire need of health.
Oh yeah and if you die with any humanities you've used (the counter next to your healthbar) you lose them along with souls and they have to be reclaimed from your bloodstain.