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Ramen Tengoku

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SnakeFighter64 said:
Why do they keep Ash around? The games have a new protagonist each installment. Why can’t the anime?
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It's been 20 years with Ash. The fanbase is already too attached to him to see him go

Trust me, the outrage would be pretty intense.

And we don't need two Pokemon related controversies back-to-back lol
 
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What more character development could Ash even have though at this point besides keep going region to region, keep making new friends and trying to win?

Pretty much repeating the same thing over and over again.
 
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Smashing Ramen said:
It's been 20 years with Ash. The fanbase is already too attached to him to see him go

Trust me, the outrage would be pretty intense.

And we don't need two Pokemon related controversies back-to-back lol
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Fan outrage is not a good reason to not do something. Sure. Sometimes the fans have good ideas. And if you give them something entirely different from what they want (like Paper Mario for example) then that’s just bad business. But the quality of the product should come first and foremost. And sometimes the fans want something that hurts the product. Be it a specific change or even a lack of change.
 
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Anime is mainly Ash's story. It is tradition at this point. Put ash in the new games plot. Make money.
 
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As said before my headcanon is the Mario characters pretty much just being actors in the mainline games and outside of that Mario and Bowser being good friends explaining why they particulate in kart racing, tennis, golf and such.
 
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Michael the Spikester said:
What more character development could Ash even have though at this point besides keep going region to region, keep making new friends and trying to win?

Pretty much repeating the same thing over and over again.
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So, like Pokemon anime itself.

Yeah, Ash is a pretty flat character but anime rarely tells anything that needs a deeper character and when it does, they have new main characters for that.
 
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Michael the Spikester said:
What more character development could Ash even have though at this point besides keep going region to region, keep making new friends and trying to win?

Pretty much repeating the same thing over and over again.
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He could finally muster up the will to kill Jessie and James for good. Other than that idk got me.
 
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SnakeFighter64 said:
Fan outrage is not a good reason to not do something. Sure. Sometimes the fans have good ideas. And if you give them something entirely different from what they want (like Paper Mario for example) then that’s just bad business. But the quality of the product should come first and foremost. And sometimes the fans want something that hurts the product. Be it a specific change or even a lack of change.
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You just said it yourself
And if you give them something entirely different from what they want (like Paper Mario for example) then that’s just bad business.
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I assure a good amount of people still got fond memories of Ash. They probably still want him in the new series. Removing him now would probably be a pretty bad business decision for the brand going foward
 
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Michael the Spikester said:
As said before my headcanon is the Mario characters pretty much just being actors in the mainline games and outside of that Mario and Bowser being good friends explaining why they particulate in kart racing, tennis, golf and such.
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I really don’t know how to feel about that.

Like, it’s a trope from classic cartoons, and I really like it there. But for some reason it bothers me in this situation. Like it somehow invalidates what little story they have, as well as everyone else who treats their story and works as something more important.
 
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Wake me up when the Pokemon Company gets their act together and gives us the solo brock anime we deserve
 
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Smashing Ramen said:
You just said it yourself
I assure a good amount of people still got fond memories of Ash. Removing him now would be a pretty bad business descion
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It’s a give and take. Changing Ash wouldn’t fundamentally change the show in any way the way Paper Mario’s changes do. Therefore it’s just something they gotta deal with.

Or if they’re really attached to him, then age him up and have him be a professor. That way he’s still there, but he’s not the focus and they can devote more time to the protagonist and their story.
 
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Professor Pumpkaboo said:
Find it funny that it's only just us stupid westerners that care so much about Ash being the main character of Pokemon. Japan don't really give a ****. Maybe we should learn from Japan
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Japan also is super liberated about sex. But are super phobic of blood and gore and don’t think they need to fix the terrible online services and net code in their games because it works fine in Japan because it’s such a dense country, not realizing that every other country isn’t Japan.

Yeah no. We could learn some things from Japan but they also need to start learning from the rest of the world.
 
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SnakeFighter64 said:
Japan also is super liberated about sex. But are super phobic of blood and gore and don’t think they need to fix the terrible online services and net code in their games because it works fine in Japan because it’s such a dense country, not realizing that every other country isn’t Japan.

Yeah no. We could learn some things from Japan but they also need to start learning from the rest of the world.
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Oh mother****ing please. Im sorry but get over it. Ash isnt gonna stop being the MC of the anime
 
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SnakeFighter64 said:
Japan also is super liberated about sex. But are super phobic of blood and gore

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I keep on seeing this and feel like I'm missing something - there's plenty of Japanese video games and anime/manga that are violent as hell; is this specifically referencing Japanese censorship bodies rather than wider cultural attitudes?
 
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Gyrom8 said:
I keep on seeing this and feel like I'm missing something - there's plenty of Japanese video games and anime/manga that are violent as hell; is this specifically referencing Japanese censorship bodies rather than wider cultural attitudes?
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I call bull**** on this because just yestersay, a I saw an anime where teenagers arm got severed from his body. They even showed the stump and the severed arm complete with blood

i think for irl peeps its different, that cultural
 
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Gyrom8 said:
I keep on seeing this and feel like I'm missing something - there's plenty of Japanese video games and anime/manga that are violent as hell; is this specifically referencing Japanese censorship bodies rather than wider cultural attitudes?
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Isn’t their censorship board so strict because of cultural differences?
 
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