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Shyy_Guy595

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Vivian from Paper Mario? I don't consider her trans but only because I'm an American who played the localized version. It's written in a way to where you'd never know if Vivian is trans otherwise.
Poison from Final Fight or whatever also has a case of this IIRC. It was only said once or twice and apparently was taken back later on? Can't remember exactly but I remember her being confusing.

And let's not even get started on Birdo
 
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Vivian from Paper Mario? I don't consider her trans but only because I'm an American who played the localized version. It's written in a way to where you'd never know if Vivian is trans otherwise.
To be fair the translation can be considered a product of its time in that regard. In 2004, the whole “moral guardians against LGBT” was still a thing when it came to children’s media (including video games, since TTYD was rated E for Everyone) like for T and M rated games, they could add LGBT rep whenever they wanted but not in E games back then

Also the E10+ rating didn’t exist yet, that iirc became a thing in 2005
 
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Poison from Final Fight or whatever also has a case of this IIRC. It was only said once or twice and apparently was taken back later on? Can't remember exactly but I remember her being confusing.
Some wiki said "Street Fighter IV's producer Yoshinori Ono, when asked in an interview about the matter, stated "Let's set the record straight: in North America, Poison is officially a post-op transsexual. But in Japan, she simply tucks her business away to look female.". He later emphasized it again when asked about what female characters could be included in the game Street Fighter IV, stating that it would be too confusing to include her due to the region-specific gender. Later on, however, during the production of Street Fighter x Tekken, he had apparently changed his mind and decided Poison is a post-op transgender woman, and after heavy controversy regarding very insensitive and transphobic character dialogue, he finally settled on what Ni****ani had originally stated, that Poison can be whatever the player feels she is. "

Really, it's up to you at that point. I go with cis arbitrarily.
 

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Birdo and Poison should bond over how their creators dance around the issues they created themselves.
 
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Birdo and Poison should bond over how their creators dance around the issues they created themselves.
Is Birdo a species like Yoshi or is she her own character? Like, Super Mario RPG shows her being hatched from an egg and the gender is so inconsistent I can't think of another solution.
 
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And let's not even get started on Birdo in Captain Rainbow, because, hoo boy, that's opening Pandora's Box.
 

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According to what I've read and seen, Birdo IS a species. They've come in different colors seens in backgrounds of sporting events IIRC. The one we know is special in her identity issues, though.
 

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Having played Banjo a bit for a week now, my favorite part of the character is definitely their really strong neutral. Egg grenade is easily the best part of the character's moveset for how much free stage control it gives, followed by bair and ftilt, just good moves for whiff punishing and walling all around. Guh-huhriyah is pretty damn safe when spaced well, so having a good kill move to throw out is nice. Confirms like grenade into fair and shielded grenade into shield poke up smash are really fun too. I like this character a lot overall, uair and Gun are basically their only non-moves. They don't feel too gimmicky, just solid all around.
 

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According to what I've read and seen, Birdo IS a species. They've come in different colors seens in backgrounds of sporting events IIRC. The one we know is special in her identity issues, though.
Oh **** lol I forgot Birdos came in different colors

also How and why do they make eggs in their mouth. Please Nintendo, Please, thats so weird
 

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I find it funny that in Japan Birdo is a crossdresser and she gets looks of disgust fron the men she hits on but then in Odyssey Mario goes ****ing styling in stilettos and a wedding dress and everyone compliments him.

Though to be fair, English localisations of Mario Party 8 had Bowser call all the girls, including Birdo, a "cutie".

Not exactly sure what the original text in Japan says.
 
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Ok but the new Fire Emblem has a bisexual transgirl
Which one? Google yields no results.

I find it funny that in Japan Birdo is a crossdresser and she gets looks of disgust fron the men she hits on but then in Odyssey Mario goes ****ing styling in stilettos and a wedding dress and everyone compliments him.
You loose a woke point Nintendo..
 
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Some wiki said "Street Fighter IV's producer Yoshinori Ono, when asked in an interview about the matter, stated "Let's set the record straight: in North America, Poison is officially a post-op transsexual. But in Japan, she simply tucks her business away to look female.". He later emphasized it again when asked about what female characters could be included in the game Street Fighter IV, stating that it would be too confusing to include her due to the region-specific gender. Later on, however, during the production of Street Fighter x Tekken, he had apparently changed his mind and decided Poison is a post-op transgender woman, and after heavy controversy regarding very insensitive and transphobic character dialogue, he finally settled on what Ni****ani had originally stated, that Poison can be whatever the player feels she is. "

Really, it's up to you at that point. I go with cis arbitrarily.
Then they must have changed their mind again. Watch her character story cutscenes in SFV and try to tell me there aren't trans-narrative undertones.

That's because there is none, or at least none that's confirmed yet.
Cutie Gwen Cutie Gwen !!!! YOU LIED TO ME!!!!!
 
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Then they must have changed their mind again. Watch her character story cutscenes in SFV and try to tell me there aren't trans-narrative undertones.
I'll wait until Street Fighter 5 one day becomes an actual complete game.
 

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Figured I'd share this sweet remix since a bunch of you guys seem to be fond of this game.
 
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I'm pretty sure It's done now. The PS4 is almost over. I can't imagine it getting any more content.
It's currently on Season 4 and there is no doubt in my mind they're just gonna rerelease another Street Fighter 5 game with all of the new seasons coming in for free.
 

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I'm pretty sure It's done now. The PS4 is almost over. I can't imagine it getting any more content.
Ono confirmed more content is to be announced in November and December. The update with Honda, Poison, and Lucia was labeled as "Summer 2019 Character Bundle", and a winter pack was hinted at by a fairly reputable leaker.
 

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I'm pretty sure It's done now. The PS4 is almost over. I can't imagine it getting any more content.
Pretty much what the others said above me.

SFV is probably gonna be around up until the release of PS5, which is still over a year from now, so they'll definitely still keep making new content for it until then at the very least.

Also doubt it would stop now since it's one of the most popular fighting games in esports.
 

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Well it's been a good run y'all, but I think it's about time I left this thread for good. Or at least for a good while. I know it might seem sudden, but I've been thinking about doing this for a good long while now.

I just came here to have fun. I like video games, and be it in a casual or critical manner, I like talking about video games.
But often times this thread just stresses me out. We're always arguing over things like roster picks, the national dex, or passive aggressive arguments over the gender identity of fictional characters and I'm just tired of it. As a wise man once said, if it's not fun, why bother?

While I do have some "friends" here, I wouldn't describe any of them as that close. Just people I get along with. I think part of why I come here is because I went to find a certain sense of belonging within a community, but I've never truly felt it in this thread. It's no one's fault in particular for this, I'm just not that great at getting close to people.

And as I've learned from my two week-long experimental breaks in the past, I'm probably a lot better off without the thread. I just waste so much time mindlessly scrolling through the pages to catch up when I could be doing some more active activity. Time I could be spending doing chores, playing games, or doing some other hobby. I feel like a slave to my phone and computer, always having to bring this page up to see what people have said.

On the off chance anyone wants to see me again, I'll still be posting in the Competitive Character Impressions thread in the Competitive Discussion, and my PMs and profile page will be left open. I'll be using a browser extension to block this thread shortly, though.

So, adios mi amigos. I'll miss some of you but it's probably for the best.
 

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Wait... Wii Fit RPG?!? That's what the ring controller was for?

Wow. Totally thinking about getting it, though. I loved Wii Fit
 

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Besides, FE isn't strange to the concept, gender non-conforming characters have a few examples and Radiant Dawn had an openly trans woman(who unfortunately got changed to a cis man in the localization but **** what the localization says)
Jumping in briefly to say that, if you're talking about Kyza I wouldn't consider her a good example. Yeah she existed, but she also existed to be an offensive stereotype and was clearly not done to be progressive in any meaningful way. Changing her transgender status was not a good way to go about it and the localization could definitely have done better (though at least they kept her crush on Ranulf), but the problem with her started with the original writing and was unfortunately carried from there.
 
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Jumping in briefly to say that, if you're talking about Kyza I wouldn't consider her a good example. Yeah she existed, but she also existed to be an offensive stereotype and was clearly not done to be progressive in any meaningful way. Changing her transgender status was not a good way to go about it and the localization could definitely have done better (though at least they kept her crush on Ranulf), but the problem with her started with the original writing and was unfortunately carried from there.
I don't know how the writing treated her but it was meant as an example of IS not being completely strange to the concept.
After all, 3H is a game with many openly bisexual characters that are treated very well by the writing but it was preceeded by Fates with... Niles and Not!Tharja...
 
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So apparently, the Switch Version of Sonic Mania Plus is the best:
Switch = 91.25%
XBox One = 90.00%
PS4 = 86.15%
(source: gamerankings)
 
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So, what did i miss. I saw 4chan commenting on you guys and now someone else has bailed. I came here for an argument.

What are we arguing about now? Is it Ridley. I like Ridley.
 

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Well it's been a good run y'all, but I think it's about time I left this thread for good. Or at least for a good while. I know it might seem sudden, but I've been thinking about doing this for a good long while now.

I just came here to have fun. I like video games, and be it in a casual or critical manner, I like talking about video games.
But often times this thread just stresses me out. We're always arguing over things like roster picks, the national dex, or passive aggressive arguments over the gender identity of fictional characters and I'm just tired of it. As a wise man once said, if it's not fun, why bother?

While I do have some "friends" here, I wouldn't describe any of them as that close. Just people I get along with. I think part of why I come here is because I went to find a certain sense of belonging within a community, but I've never truly felt it in this thread. It's no one's fault in particular for this, I'm just not that great at getting close to people.

And as I've learned from my two week-long experimental breaks in the past, I'm probably a lot better off without the thread. I just waste so much time mindlessly scrolling through the pages to catch up when I could be doing some more active activity. Time I could be spending doing chores, playing games, or doing some other hobby. I feel like a slave to my phone and computer, always having to bring this page up to see what people have said.

On the off chance anyone wants to see me again, I'll still be posting in the Competitive Character Impressions thread in the Competitive Discussion, and my PMs and profile page will be left open. I'll be using a browser extension to block this thread shortly, though.

So, adios mi amigos. I'll miss some of you but it's probably for the best.
I always hate seeing people leave, but it's inevitable. Farewell Zach, best of luck. :006:
 

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Well it's been a good run y'all, but I think it's about time I left this thread for good. Or at least for a good while. I know it might seem sudden, but I've been thinking about doing this for a good long while now.

I just came here to have fun. I like video games, and be it in a casual or critical manner, I like talking about video games.
But often times this thread just stresses me out. We're always arguing over things like roster picks, the national dex, or passive aggressive arguments over the gender identity of fictional characters and I'm just tired of it. As a wise man once said, if it's not fun, why bother?

While I do have some "friends" here, I wouldn't describe any of them as that close. Just people I get along with. I think part of why I come here is because I went to find a certain sense of belonging within a community, but I've never truly felt it in this thread. It's no one's fault in particular for this, I'm just not that great at getting close to people.

And as I've learned from my two week-long experimental breaks in the past, I'm probably a lot better off without the thread. I just waste so much time mindlessly scrolling through the pages to catch up when I could be doing some more active activity. Time I could be spending doing chores, playing games, or doing some other hobby. I feel like a slave to my phone and computer, always having to bring this page up to see what people have said.

On the off chance anyone wants to see me again, I'll still be posting in the Competitive Character Impressions thread in the Competitive Discussion, and my PMs and profile page will be left open. I'll be using a browser extension to block this thread shortly, though.

So, adios mi amigos. I'll miss some of you but it's probably for the best.
We may have not been very close, but I always appriciated your sense of humor and way to go about topics. It's a shame you have to go, but it's understandable, lord know this thread stress me out at time, but I always come back to it because I don't know any better. :p

In all cases, farewell upside down Claude users, you and your Charizard will always be welcome back here if you change your mind, but until then, may the goddess be with you.
 

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Pretty much what the others said above me.

SFV is probably gonna be around up until the release of PS5, which is still over a year from now, so they'll definitely still keep making new content for it until then at the very least.

Also doubt it would stop now since it's one of the most popular fighting games in esports.
How did THAT happen? I thought people hated it? What, did it catch on through sheer stubbornness of the SF Community?

I really think they should be focusing on their next steps though. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, they’ve been really hitting out of the park lately, and that same effort and love they put into Mega Man and DMC and RE needs to go into their fighting games.
 
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