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Shyy_Guy595

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Keyword "yet".

These conversations always go south.
Unfortunately.

Anyways, I can totally see a "trans" Zelda in the sense that her soul is reincarnated as a male once. Yes, she has the Goddess Hylia in her (or at least SS Zelda did while every other Zelda needed to train to use their ancestral divinity in the forn of holy magic or whatever) but that doesn't mean they can't inhabit whatever body they please--look at Spirit Tracks. By the way, friendly reminder Ganondorf was once inside Zelda, a female body, back in TP. Plus, I feel like it'd be interesting to see how they treat that storyline.

Also, Link doesn't HAVE to be male in every game. He was always intended to be somewhat ambiguous to represent the sexes anyways.

Granted this isn't really trans anyone in Zelda since it's just their immortal spirits inhabiting bodies regardless of the sex but still--I think it'd be interesting.
 
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So you come to defend Gwen, a person who claims Mercedes is "trans as canon," and then say you don't actually agree with her statement? Mate, our entire issue stemmed from how we don't agree with Mercedes being trans is canon.
I don't need to 100% agree with her to defend her, considering all I saw was people attacking a headcanon I came up with even for whatever reason they can find because they couldn't handle one of the chracters in their games being trans. I don't care how Gwen presents it but I understand very well why she would be defensive over it because it's not about that, if anyone said "Claude canonically eats McDonald's" no one would bat an eye but when someone tries to imply a character couod be trans people get up in arms about it.

I'm gonna end this with a note: if you're gonna insist that Mercedes being trans is to be clearly presented as a headcanon, then you should do the same when you claim characters are cis, unless you have substantial evidence.
 

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I'm gonna end this with a note: if you're gonna insist that Mercedes being trans is to be clearly presented as a headcanon, then you should do the same when you claim characters are cis, unless you have substantial evidence.
We did. Sylvain and Mercedes' ending states they built a loving home life with a bunch of children.

"As Margrave Gautier, Sylvain devoted his life to improving relations with the people of Sreng. Under his leadership, nobles were persuaded that Relics and Crests were not necessary as they'd previously thought. Though he went down in history as an extraordinary lord, he could not have done so without the constant support and counsel of his wife, Mercedes, whose wisdom and guidance brought prosperity to the people. The couple built a loving home life, surrounded by happy children, and when Sylvain at last passed away, he was succeeded by his oldest child, who bore no Crest. "


Ferdinand and Mercedes implies a family.

"After the war, Mercedes traveled to Fhirdiad to pay a visit to her adoptive father. Though she introduced Ferdinand, she left out the small detail that they were engaged to be wed. Married in secret, Ferdinand and Mercedes worked together to reform the new Duke Aegir's territory, and the effort was so successful that he was called upon to work as a leader in the central government. It was a busy life for him indeed, but as he was known to say to his government colleagues, coming home to a smiling family made all the hard work worth it. "

So now the burden of proof is on you or Gwen.

Also I never found those "Claude likes McDonalds" jokes funny so at least I'm consistent. Woohoo.
 
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We did. Sylvain and Mercedes' ending states they built a loving home life with a bunch of children.

"As Margrave Gautier, Sylvain devoted his life to improving relations with the people of Sreng. Under his leadership, nobles were persuaded that Relics and Crests were not necessary as they'd previously thought. Though he went down in history as an extraordinary lord, he could not have done so without the constant support and counsel of his wife, Mercedes, whose wisdom and guidance brought prosperity to the people. The couple built a loving home life, surrounded by happy children, and when Sylvain at last passed away, he was succeeded by his oldest child, who bore no Crest. "

So now the burden of proof is on you or Gwen.

Also I never found those "Claude likes McDonalds" jokes funny so at least I'm consistent. Woohoo.
That's because Sylvain is trans as well
 

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I'd like a source on that because all of the listed endings in the wiki(which are incomplete, to be fair) that mention anything about children mention she opened an orphanage. There's actually no mention of her having biological children.
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Either Sylvain had a biological son with Mercedes, or Sylvain cheated on Mercedes.

Or Mercedes died and Sylvain remarried, but I feel this would be said.
 

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Nah. It's clear Claude was supposed to like both sexes before they pulled a hard reset.

But Edelgard gets to be bi and I'm totally not salty
 

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Oh! How's about another hot FE identity debate?

Does Ike have romantic subtext/implications with his best friend?
 
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Oh! How's about another hot FE identity debate?

Does Ike have romantic subtext/implications with his best friend?
If Ike was less of a workaholic, this question would be easier to answer. Ike ain't exactly the common man.

Since it's not stated, I'm just going to say his sexuality is ambiguous and we can't make assumptions on who he likes. Boom. Conversation ended. If you continue after this point, I throw you in jail without passing Go.
 
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Here's proof
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indeed, this very legitimate document states that sylvain is trans at the officers academy; however, it fails to clarify whether or not sylvain is trans once he leaves the officer's academy post-timeskip, and so we cannot say with any confidence that he is still trans at the time of marrying mercedes
 
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Oh! How's about another hot FE identity debate?

Does Ike have romantic subtext/implications with his best friend?
The real question is which best friend? :V Soren and Ranulf both have a claim lmao
 
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Well, just came to say hi before heading off to work. This seems like an eventful morning and I'll just leave it like that.
 

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The real question is which best friend? :V Soren and Ranulf both have a claim lmao
Well, Soren is the infamous case.

Also, do we still consider Vivian and such trans despite the differences between versions and such?
 
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Well, Soren is the infamous case.

Also, do we still consider Vivian and such trans despite the differences between versions and such?
Vivian from Paper Mario? I don't consider her trans but only because I'm an American who played the localized version. It's written in a way to where you'd never know if Vivian is trans otherwise.
 
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