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Unrelated, but turns out that The Spriters Resource doesn't have the Pokedex menu sprites for HGSS. Don't feel like ripping them myself, so that sucks.
 

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I'm still confused on what Kojima is trying to do with Death Stranding. Sure I'm a bit intrigued after the gameplay demo but....
Bah, I'll probably buy it eventually and see what it's about myself. I'm doing this out of respect for you Kojima so don't let me down.

Also yay Nioh 2 finally got a release window. And Project Resistance is what I expected it to be.

How's everyone enjoying TGS so far?
 

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Well I know I'm a hypocrite for what I'm about to say after my last post, but...

Considering people are claiming she has kids and magical all fantasy Fire Emblem means we have to take realism of modernday medicine into account I'd say they're indeed saying that
...I never said that their couldn't be a magical version of a sex change therapy in that world.

I'm the one who brought up that possibility that such a therapy could exist in that world. But I guess nuance doesn't exist in this black/white world, does it?
I mean... is ANYONE really getting heated about this? I left then cause my lunch break was over and I'm leaving now cause my afternoon break is nearly over and I don't really get the impression anyone's currently heated
Well maybe "heated" isn't the right word but a lot of people are clearly being made very uncomfortable about the topic.

And it'd help if you didn't put words in people's mouths or making fun of people on the opposing side to you.
 
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Who wants to bet we won't get the stock icons for Arusu, Solo and Eight before the final Fighters Pass release?
 

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Honestly, I find it more offensive that 3H only has a single gay option for the male side. I mean, take what you get but the females got FED and males only got the leftover scraps
 
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Considering people are claiming she has kids and magical all fantasy Fire Emblem means we have to take realism of modernday medicine into account I'd say they're indeed saying that
Fantasy is good, but you can't just make up the rules and technological advancements of the universe you're talking about unless you're JK Rowling or something.

Unless the game shows me evidence for why a character could be trans, I can't reasonably assume there's an implication on anything. Mercedes has kids. We don't know if there's any way she can have kids while still being trans. Ergo, we can probably assume IS intended her to be cis.
 
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Yeah, this is a real thing by Dominos' Japan business, little too many peppers for my taste.

"Hello, thank you for ordering from Domino's Pizza, we make the best quality pizzas for our valued customers... But, it's not like we don't like them or anything!"​
 
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Yeah, this is a real thing by Dominos' Japan business, little too many peppers for my taste.

"Hello, thank you for ordering from Domino's Pizza, we make the best quality pizzas for our valued customers... But, it's not like we don't like them or anything!"​
Real talk. I wanna know the Domino's Pizza that has their female staff wear skirts.
 

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Good lord, I take those same pills!
Been taking then since I was little and right on my 2nd to final year of college I said "**** it" Put the pills in a drawer and ever since then, neeeevr touched then and Ive been doing great

Yeah, this is a real thing by Dominos' Japan business, little too many peppers for my taste.

"Hello, thank you for ordering from Domino's Pizza, we make the best quality pizzas for our valued customers... But, it's not like we don't like them or anything!"​
Me: "Girl, hold the pizza right, its gonna fall.. Hold the pizza right... HOLD IT RIGHT!"
 
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Yeah, this is a real thing by Dominos' Japan business, little too many peppers for my taste.

"Hello, thank you for ordering from Domino's Pizza, we make the best quality pizzas for our valued customers... But, it's not like we don't like them or anything!"​
I can't believe people say Hawaiian Pizza is the devil's work when someone actually thought jalapeños were a good topping smh.
 
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"Baka sauce" alright this has gone too far
Jk it's ****ing perfect
Baka sauce tastes extremely good and I love dipping my pizza into it... but I don't actually like it. I... just think it's best to not have the sauce go to waste.
 
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To be fair, what issues would a character need to go through to even give the implication they're possibly trans?

Identity and image issues are pretty common even amongst normies and simply dressing "manly" or "girly" are slowly becoming less of a rarity for the sexes, and it's made even harder to decipher with these characters being from Japanese culture where it's popular for crossdressers to exist or very feminine men to exist.

It's purely psychological and would need to have an undeniable reference, implication, or mention for one to be seen as a trans character. That, or they show you the process of them starting out masculine/feminine and then slowly gaining the body of their dreams as the story progresses. Could be a clever way of subtly including a trans character.

Disregard the changing colors.
 
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What's with "cis" being the default? How is this somehow anti-trans?
That's what you're implying. Assuming cis as the default implicates transgenderism as "other" which segregates those groups of people
Is nobody going to point out that in several of Mercedes’s endings it says she had kids, and therefore a fully functioning female reproductive system.
I'd like a source on that because all of the listed endings in the wiki(which are incomplete, to be fair) that mention anything about children mention she opened an orphanage. There's actually no mention of her having biological children.
When you pass off your headcanon as fact, you give reasoning as I said before. If it's just "I have traits that match this character," then that's fine. However, saying that and "this person is trans" give the wrong impression fast. If you can't understand how you word things matter, then this conversation wont go anywhere.
I very much did read it, doesn't mean it's not wrong though. And doing this fake stuttering doesn't really make you look better. Also disagreeing with someone and calling said person out is not being disrespectful either, like you tried to say last page.
I never passed it off as fact, you're all misconstructing what I said or failing to read it.
Here, I'll quote what I said, which was in response to shooting down my headcanon
QUOTE="Shishœ, post: 23546537, member: 239596"]Gwen is not saying those characteristics are necessarily that of tans women.
While I won't say "character is trans because of [physical characteristic]", it's important to note many trans people will find certain characteristics they identify with in characters that will lead them into reading that character as trans.
Thick eyebrows and and sideburns aren't characteristics usually associated with women so seeing a character with those can give a feeling of validation. While the high voice can mean nothing, it can also be read as trying to overcompensate or a result of voice training.
Of course, there will be cis women who identify with those characteristics as well for different reasons but trans women can rarely find representation in fiction so "latching" onto specific examples is more common, and this is not an accusation or anything, just the sad reality of a marginalized and unrepresented group so let them have their character, it's not like this affects you in any way, unless you're to say Mercedes being trans or not affects how you see her. And it's not like there's any "evidence" of her being cis either and you shouldn't assume "cis until said otherwise".

Besides, FE isn't strange to the concept, gender non-conforming characters have a few examples and Radiant Dawn had an openly trans woman(who unfortunately got changed to a cis man in the localization but **** what the localization says)[/QUOTE]
Its not even heated. Can people not have a minor disagreement and discussion without mod intervention?
Funnily enough, I have to agree with this. People tend to exaggerate how heated these arguments actually get.
 

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Real talk. I wanna know the Domino's Pizza that has their female staff wear skirts.
You know, I wonder if Japan has similar advertisements for Wendy's... I mean, not even sure they exist over there but I can only imagine from the fanart of Wendy.
 
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Also Konami showed up at TGS with a new Castlevania game.

It's a mobile game

Spellbook of Souls would've been a way better name that meant the same thing... >_<
 
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Here, I'll quote what I said, which was in response to shooting down my headcanon
You, Gwen, I don't care. Our point still stands. What physical traits you relate with in a character is not evidence for why they're trans.
 

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You know, I would be inclined to agree that this discussion isn't heated, but then that's excactly what people say before the discussion gets heated, and it tends to be the exact same people who say that the mods don't have to come because it isn't heated yet.

Keyword, yet.
 

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As far as "Females aren't portrayed with thick brows and sideburns," well, Nintendo's most prominent female characters, Princess "Peach" Toadstool and Princess Zelda actually have sideburns (at least I know Peach does) and Zelda has had bushy eyebrows in a few incarnations
 
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You, Gwen, I don't care. Our point still stands. What physical traits you relate with in a character is not evidence for why they're trans.
Literally what did I say how I feel about the "reasoning", a post which you quoted? All I did was explain why someone would read Mercedes as trans and you keep insisting I'm pushing it as hard-canon or that I'm using her physical characteristics to justify it.
 
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You know, I would be inclined to agree that this discussion isn't heated, but then that's excactly what people say before the discussion gets heated, and it tends to be the exact same people who say that the mods don't have to come because it isn't heated yet.

Keyword, yet.
Nobody's resorted to personal insults yet, so I think we're in the clear.
 
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Literally what did I say how I feel about the "reasoning", a post which you quoted? All I did was explain why someone would read Mercedes as trans and you keep insisting I'm pushing it as hard-canon or that I'm using her physical characteristics to justify it.
So you come to defend Gwen, a person who claims Mercedes is "trans as canon," and then say you don't actually agree with her statement? Mate, our entire issue stemmed from how we don't agree with Mercedes being trans is canon.
 
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Ah yes, a debate about a fictional character being trans that spans almost four pages
This is the quality content I signed up for
Honestly, this is SO much more productive than studying for my upcoming linear algebra exam. Let's go.
 
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