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[Professor Pumpkaboo]

this Fire Emblem Mercedes argument is a PERFECT example of someone being a clown, fellas~

 

[Deleted member]

Morning, guys... what exactly is going on here??

I recently came back from my first day on the gym and it was fun!

Saddly I am now forced to wait for my father to finish a bath on the beach while I sit with his stuff and I am bored.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Not to drag this on but...

Spoiler: Sideburns

I also met two cis women who have a "condition" (as they put it) that allows facial hair to grow, like a mustache. I would totally get angry if someone assumed they were guys or trans because of it, so this sort of logic annoys me.

I know me and my sister get chin hair from time to time. Its not rapidly growing, just a few tiny hairs lol

 

[TheMightyP]

You know, I have no clue on anything FE, so for a second, I thought you guys were arguing if a Mercedes Benz was trans or not.

 

[Deleted member]

You know, I have no clue on anything FE, so for a second, I thought you guys were arguing if a Mercedes Benz was trans or not.

I can completely relate.

 

[Zinith]

You know, I have no clue on anything FE, so for a second, I thought you guys were arguing if a Mercedes Benz was trans or not.

That would've only confused me further and think y'all were talking about a Cars character

 

[ZephyrZ]

I also met two cis women who have a "condition" (as they put it) that allows facial hair to grow, like a mustache. I would totally get angry if someone assumed they were guys or trans because of it, so this sort of logic annoys me.

From my (admittedly limited) understanding, it's actually not that abnormal for a tiny bit of facial hair to grow. But enough woman remove it and never mention it that it's thought to be unusual.

I know someone who gets it over her upper lip. She's pretty insecure about it because dark hair on white skin makes it fairly visible.

You know, I have no clue on anything FE, so for a second, I thought you guys were arguing if a Mercedes Benz was trans or not.

Most automatic vehicles have transmission systems.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Most automatic vehicles have transmission systems

I couldnt expect less from someone with an upside down Claude picture, beautiful

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Well, I’m feeling charitable today.

Spoiler

 

[Deleted member]

I don't like having "reasoning" to explain why I think a character is trans because that falls into the trap of assuming trans people have characteristics that "tell they're trans" because "cis people wouldn't have them".
With that said, Mercedes von Fire Emblem? She's trans. She's trans and there's nothing any of you can do about it.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

*starts dancing*
15 more days time DQXI S

 

[Deleted member]

I don't like having "reasoning" to explain why I think a character is trans because that falls into the trap of assuming trans people have characteristics that "tell they're trans" because "cis people wouldn't have them".

If reasoning is a "trap," then that means you have nothing meritable to base your assertion on.

 

[Deleted member]

This game I voice in looks great. Apparently some populars YTers are gonna record early access, and apparently all team members get early access, myself included. I can’t wait!

Luckily my voice is in the opening cutscene, so the YTers who asked for early access have to hesr my voice. >

 

[Deleted member]

If reasoning is a "trap," then that means you have nothing meritable to base your assertion on.

W-what!?

 

[Deleted member]

W-what!?

I mean, am I wrong here? We've spent the last page showing why the traits Gwen listed doesn't strictly apply to trans people. Reasoning is the only way to prove Mercedes is trans here. It's not a trap to ask you for reasoning. It's a simple question.

 

[TheMightyP]

"Hmm, today I feel like waking up and arguing on whether or not a fictional character from a somewhat popular game is trans" - This Thread.


Idk what makes you guys decide that thus is a great idea, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

 

[Deleted member]

"Hmm, today I feel like waking up and arguing on whether or not a fictional character from a somewhat popular game is trans" - This Thread.


Idk what makes you guys decide that thus is a great idea, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

You're right. I should go eat breakfast. Brb.

 

[Deleted member]

Going to the densist.

If I don’t come back, tell my mom I love her. /s

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Going to the densist.

If I don’t come back, tell my mom I love her. /s

Ill take care of any of your pets

 

[Deleted member]

I'm usually fairly easygoing, but being trans myself, I find it pretty disrespectful when people try to claim someone is trans and present it as fact with absolutely no proof whatsoever, fictional or not. It's not "cool and hip" fashion statement to just casually throw out like this. I've seen this happen more and more, usually on Twitter thought, didn't think it would be here, too.

 

[Metal Shop X]

This game I voice in looks great. Apparently some populars YTers are gonna record early access, and apparently all team members get early access, myself included. I can’t wait!

Luckily my voice is in the opening cutscene, so the YTers who asked for early access have to hesr my voice. >
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Chica eyeballs are going to come right out of her endoskeleton head if they get any bigger.

 

[TheMightyP]

Anyway, screw Mercedes, she can shrivel up and die, becuase today is National Video Game day, TIME TO RISE UP GAMERS

GAMERS
RISE
UP

 

[Deleted member]

Anyway, screw Mercedes, she can shrivel up and die, becuase today is National Video Game day, TIME TO RISE UP GAMERS

GAMERS
RISE
UP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipRM0w3Zlzc intensifies

 

[Deleted member]

I mean, am I wrong here? We've spent the last page showing why the traits Gwen listed doesn't strictly apply to trans people. Reasoning is the only way to prove Mercedes is trans here. It's not a trap to ask you for reasoning. It's a simple question.

Gwen is not saying those characteristics are necessarily that of tans women.
While I won't say "character is trans because of [physical characteristic]", it's important to note many trans people will find certain characteristics they identify with in characters that will lead them into reading that character as trans.
Thick eyebrows and and sideburns aren't characteristics usually associated with women so seeing a character with those can give a feeling of validation. While the high voice can mean nothing, it can also be read as trying to overcompensate or a result of voice training.
Of course, there will be cis women who identify with those characteristics as well for different reasons but trans women can rarely find representation in fiction so "latching" onto specific examples is more common, and this is not an accusation or anything, just the sad reality of a marginalized and unrepresented group so let them have their character, it's not like this affects you in any way, unless you're to say Mercedes being trans or not affects how you see her. And it's not like there's any "evidence" of her being cis either and you shouldn't assume "cis until said otherwise".

Besides, FE isn't strange to the concept, gender non-conforming characters have a few examples and Radiant Dawn had an openly trans woman(who unfortunately got changed to a cis man in the localization but **** what the localization says)

 

[Deleted member]

Seems like pictures are working for once, so here's some more Terry Bogard:

Spoiler

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

God. Bless. Joe

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[ZaneHitsurugi]

Gwen is not saying those characteristics are necessarily that of tans women.
While I won't say "character is trans because of [physical characteristic]", it's important to note many trans people will find certain characteristics they identify with in characters that will lead them into reading that character as trans.
Thick eyebrows and and sideburns aren't characteristics usually associated with women so seeing a character with those can give a feeling of validation. While the high voice can mean nothing, it can also be read as trying to overcompensate or a result of voice training.
Of course, there will be cis women who identify with those characteristics as well for different reasons but trans women can rarely find representation in fiction so "latching" onto specific examples is more common, and this is not an accusation or anything, just the sad reality of a marginalized and unrepresented group so let them have their character, it's not like this affects you in any way, unless you're to say Mercedes being trans or not affects how you see her. And it's not like there's any "evidence" of her being cis either and you shouldn't assume "cis until said otherwise".

Besides, FE isn't strange to the concept, gender non-conforming characters have a few examples and Radiant Dawn had an openly trans woman(who unfortunately got changed to a cis man in the localization but **** what the localization says)

Its not illogical to assume that someone isn't trans until proven otherwise simply due to the fact that trans people are an extreme minority.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

During this week of September back in 1991, Smells Like Teen Spirit was released to the public. This song ended up becoming my favorite rock song of all time.

Time to change things up to honor my favorite song, band, and its front-man.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Of course, there will be cis women who identify with those characteristics as well for different reasons but trans women can rarely find representation in fiction so "latching" onto specific examples is more common, and this is not an accusation or anything, just the sad reality of a marginalized and unrepresented group so let them have their character, it's not like this affects you in any way, unless you're to say Mercedes being trans or not affects how you see her. And it's not like there's any "evidence" of her being cis either and you shouldn't assume "cis until said otherwise".

I can understand wanting more trans representation, but I also think it's just best not to assume these things.

Maybe she could be trans. It's pretty unlikely unless Fodlan has already developed some sort of sex-change therapy, but I suppose it's not fair to entirely rule out the possibility.

But there's no reason to say "yeah she's definitely trans". At the end of the day it's still just a headcanon, not a "true" canon fact.
Stating something as fact when it isn't is just going to confuse people and cause misinformation to spread.

 

[Deleted member]

we're talking about mirror equations in class and one of the terms is dᵢ and it's giving me cognitive whiplash because of all of the competitive Smash videos I've watched recently LMAO

 

[Deleted member]

Its not illogical to assume that someone isn't trans until proven otherwise simply due to the fact that trans people are an extreme minority.

That's just transphobia, my man

I can understand wanting more trans representation, but I also think it's just best not to assume these things.

Maybe she could be trans. It's pretty unlikely unless Fodlan has already developed some sort of sex-change therapy, but I suppose it's not fair to entirely rule out the possibility.

But there's no reason to say "yeah she's definitely trans". At the end of the day it's still just a headcanon, not a "true" canon fact.
Stating something as fact when it isn't is just going to confuse people and cause misinformation to spread.

It's a ****ing fantasy land where people shoot out fireballs from their hands, transitioning methods would just be magical.

And again, there's nothing to indicate she's cis either, so what gives?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I can understand wanting more trans representation, but I also think it's just best not to assume these things.

Maybe she could be trans. It's pretty unlikely unless Fodlan has already developed some sort of sex-change therapy, but I suppose it's not fair to entirely rule out the possibility.

But there's no reason to say "yeah she's definitely trans". At the end of the day it's still just a headcanon, not a "true" canon fact.
Stating something as fact when it isn't is just going to confuse people and cause misinformation to spread.

Ironic how they wanna be respectful to people and yet, assume a woman is trans with absolutly no proof and try to pass it as fact. Thats thats what I call being a clown

 

[ZaneHitsurugi]

That's just transphobia, my man

It's a ****ing fantasy land where people shoot out fireballs from their hands, transitioning methods would just be magical.

And again, there's nothing to indicate she's cis either, so what gives?

How is that in any way transphobic?

 

[Deleted member]

That's just transphobia, my man

That's a joke, right? A terrible one, but a joke... right?

Ironic how they wanna be respectful to people and yet, assume a woman is trans with absolutly no proof and try to pass it as fact. Thats thats what I call being a clown

And that's exactly why I'm so bothered by this, respect isn't a one-way street and as I said above, going around and spouting your headcanons as fact, especially about such a touchy subject matter, is very disrespectful.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

anyway Im hungry Imma make an omlet so full that it wont close.. With Bacon

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Going to the densist.

If I don’t come back, tell my mom I love her. /s

In the event you pass, we'll give you a tribute. Bagpipe choir and the works.

 

[TheMightyP]

Wow, are we still arguing over this?

 

[Lollipopped]

Hey everyone. How's it goi--
*sees topic that's being discussed*
Yeah...Imma just come back later.

 

[MSmariosonic]

It's like I stumbled upon a minefield

 

[Deleted member]

How is that in any way transphobic?

You're saying to assume all characters are cis until stated otherwise. That implies you're assuming cis is the "default".
I'm not saying trans people aren't a minority, because we are, but we're still talking about one(1) character in a game with, what, at least 50 of them? By this logic, at least one of them should be trans.

That's a joke, right? A terrible one, but a joke... right?

And that's exactly why I'm so bothered by this, respect isn't a one-way street and as I said above, going around and spouting your headcanons as fact, especially about such a touchy subject matter, is very disrespectful.

Gwen said what she believed in and got disrespected by it, nothing she said was disrespectful at all so I don't see what you're talking about.