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what *******- I mean, what cowerdsWell, that's it.has officially been banned from tournaments
in South Australia only.
After some deliberation we've decided to ban Hero from SASC tournaments (as of 14 August).
— Big Cheese Grassroots Gaming (@bigcheese_gg) August 15, 2019
Please read the twitlonger for more information as to why https://t.co/uFQ5qAfrcd
John Dylan Smith liked your comment. King still watches over us god bless.
The character hasn't even been out for a month yet. So that's a bit dumb to me.Well, that's it.
in South Australia only.
While I don't agree with banning Hero until we get enough quantitative results, I feel like people overestimate how luck is a detriment to Hero. When you pull up the screen, most times you'll get something you need, and if not, you can just keep flipping through until you find one in 2-3 checks. Hocus Pocus unreliable? Then don't use it. MP is supposed to be another balancing tool that is too easy to cheese. Out of MP? Just Smash attack a couple times and you're back to enough MP, within seconds, to use spells. And hey, if you're lucky, by doing Smash attacks to fill MP you may also get a crit and kill them instantly. Too many moves are instant kills, and the bad moves can just be ignored. All in theory.
Hoes mad. Character isn't even that good lmao. I don't even have normals-ass character. Ganondorf looks like a bullet train compared to me-ass character. My entire neutral relies on a resource meter-ass character. Gotta hope I get lucky in my menu or get gimped-ass character. My entire playstyle is a gimmick-ass character.Well, that's it.
in South Australia only.
After some deliberation we've decided to ban Hero from SASC tournaments (as of 14 August).
— Big Cheese Grassroots Gaming (@bigcheese_gg) August 15, 2019
Please read the twitlonger for more information as to why https://t.co/uFQ5qAfrcd
and the boyz 
Yes, but with a base roster with actual fan faves and long mainstays
Obviously the only reason K.Rool took a victory there is because all wild animals are approximately 4x deadlier upon entering Australia, and crocodiles are no execption. Instead of Blast-O-Matic, his final smash there is replaced with him actually giving in to his instincts and biting down full force on the opponent, dragging them down deep below the water's surface.
Nah, the real reason is that their tier lists are upside-down just like everything else there.
While everyone else burns due to global warming, they instead have another Ice Age.
First people sayWell, that's it.
in South Australia only.
After some deliberation we've decided to ban Hero from SASC tournaments (as of 14 August).
— Big Cheese Grassroots Gaming (@bigcheese_gg) August 15, 2019
Please read the twitlonger for more information as to why https://t.co/uFQ5qAfrcd
is busted rng is op and he must be banned?
Focusing on only the negative side of things isn't going to get you anywhere.
I don't think many people hate King K. Rool... and from what I've heard, the Australian smash scene isn't exactly known for their skill. I wouldn't really worry about their Hero ban, it will probably be reverted anyways considering the backlash.
Well, bears ARE apex predators, so he's effectively an S-tier character already.First people say
Then people say
How worse can it get for
I don't think Banjo & Kazooie or Crash are likely to encounter these problems--they're very traditional platforming characters and a faithful adaptation of their moves would probably not lead to gimmicks perceived as overly broken. If anything, their problem would likely being considered low-tier, as some pro players have speculated based on what we saw from Banjo & Kazooie's limited gameplay. Though, in that example, their Wonderwing move could either be considered a high-tier or broken move, depending on how its implemented. I think Joker and Hero's issue is the difficulties of adapting a RPG character to a fighting game--the more faithful the moves are, the less balanced it may be in a fighting game, and finding that balance may be trickier than platforming characters that already fit the type of game Smash is.First people say
Then people say
How worse can it get for
"Banjo has an extended hurtbox when he uses the bird"First people say
Then people say
How worse can it get for
:Be afraid ganon, guh-huh!!
I think the problem is you have to adapt to the characters and since no one wants to, they go the coward way out and say they suck/ ban them
They need to learn how to counter against him with some practice, in other words “Git gud.”Well, that's it.
in South Australia only.
After some deliberation we've decided to ban Hero from SASC tournaments (as of 14 August).
— Big Cheese Grassroots Gaming (@bigcheese_gg) August 15, 2019
Please read the twitlonger for more information as to why https://t.co/uFQ5qAfrcd
that logo's pretty slick
I think that's overly dismissive. I think that it's true that people are quick to say "ban", rather than trying to adapt, which should be what's optimal. But if a character is too broken that it becomes difficult or improbable to adapt to, I have no qualms about the discussion of should they be banned in competitive play--where seemingly innocuous things are banned for a variety of reasons. We're definitely not at that point yet--first we'd have to have the quantitative data to see if they're actually balanced, and if they are, then it becomes an issue of adapting. And even if they are broken, it's not enough to say they are banned--certain moves could be banned instead of the whole character. But just flat out saying Hero can be adapted to is too much of a strong statement this early on, as those who say he should be banned. To call them cowards is uncalled for.
Nah, that's fake news. All the Pokemon are getting cut next game, but it's just so that they can improve the overall quality of the game's animations.
I get the point of the message you're trying to get across, but this is a terrible example.
They even acknowledged the common counter that "Luigi, Peach, G&W have rng too!".
Their reasoning is perfectly fine, even if I don't think Hero needs to be banned I can see why they made the decision.
i hope this meme never dies
I have more of an issue in how quickly the decision was made without adequate time to actually determine if RNG carries Hero as hard as people claim. Some of the reasoning isn't that great either, Kamikazee's easy to dodge, Crit F-Smash actually has negative shield damage, and getting hit by a psyche crit is honestly on the shielder considering how slow the move is, Zoom DOES have counterplay with how slow the startup is, and the landing can be caught by an anti-air, really the only issue he has is Magic Burst, but even that's rare to get.
You can also get hit out of Magic Burst. Meaning you can lose ALL your MP and get NO reward, which for a character with such a bad disadvantage state, is the worst possible thing that can happen beyond Kamikaze last stock
Same dude, where did you find this at?
