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Would people really be mad at Edelgard if her announcement also meant a second season was coming?
Additionally, what if FP2 starts off with the promotion of a Poke Ball or FE AT? Will the community go "Anything could happen!" or just complain about what symbol will be behind the fighter's face?
 

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if it truly is edelgard, the least i hope for is a throwing axe projectile

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preferably in this style because like yeah the 3D Fire Emblem games have more realistic ways of using a hand axe but goddamn the boomerang axe is cool.
 
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You mean like Megamix from Crash Bandicoot's Huge Adventure or whatever it is called? (That GBA game)
No it's a transforming character like for example it would transform into Geno for the Neutral-B and using Geno Whirl then to transform into Mach Rider and riding his bike as his Side-B, Isaac for it's Forward Smash, Etc.
 

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If we're going on about the Pokemon thing, I think them not offering all the Pokemon is a huge deal. Since it's literally the main point of the games. Not that one can't still look forward to it. Do I even like every Pokemon? No. I have to actively try to remember Finneon and it's evo. And I personally think Lickylicky and Klefki are the lamest things Game Freak ever came up with. There's plenty of Pokemon I dislike. But chances are some dude in the world likes them. Not to mention there's more that I like than dislike.

I DO find it a bad PR move to say "we'll never have every Pokemon back ever again.", that was kind of a **** up considering what Capcom has been doing with Monster Hunter with MHW. They outright told fans, "Yeah, due to all the changes, we can't get every monster back right away, but we want to add as many as possible." Similar idea, yet the goal and message is different enough in tone to get people to get off their case. And when the reason for GF to not have every Pokemon is graphics and animation, of course we're gonna have people pay close attention to said animations. Which even then, Colo/XD and BR have shown more complex animations while the new titles still use a style like the 3DS games.

There's still some good new Pokemon, and the Wild Area is pretty neat in and of itself. And from what we've seen, trading is no longer the whole ordeal it was in the 3DS days. So it's not like improvements haven't been made at all. But I completely understand why some people are dissapointed with the new Pokemon titles, especially when the franchise makes as much cash as it does.

Honestly, the best means of handling this issue would be patch update the games with bunches of a few Pokemon at a time.
 

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Still thinking Smash is only gonna have the Fighter's Pass and DLC will be done, no bonus characters after that either. Not that a 2nd season is impossible, given the current trends in fighting games. With the list including SFV, KI3, Tekken 7, SamSho, SC6, Injustice 2, and DBFZ all having at least 2 DLC Packs/Seasons. Even Marvel Infinite was supposed to have a 2nd season, but that game had the worst PR in 2017 with the "functions" debacle.

It's just that there's no for 100% chance Smash/Nintendo will follow suit. And if a 2nd season were to happen, I'd personally would want the 5(assuming its the same as this Pass)characters to have another ballot influence it, because it's the best way to get people involved/have their voices heard.
 

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If we got the Grinch characters as DLC, I would be beyond unhyped.

Idk why, I just would be. And I'm saying this as a strong Isaac supporter.
I'd enjoy most of them but they aren't exactly mainstream characters, I don't think any of them will get a chance until a 6th smash game. Not that any of them would get in anyways.
 
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If we got the Grinch characters as DLC, I would be beyond unhyped.

Idk why, I just would be. And I'm saying this as a strong Isaac supporter.
That is the polar opposite of me I would be beyond hyped. I would also die laughing just due to how ironic it is that a fake "leak" that caused so much turmoil and arguments turned out to be true.

I would absolutely love that and I still think Isaac was robbed. Shadow too but to a lesser extent and Chorus Kids were robbed all the way back in Smash 4 they need their time to shine someday.
 

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If we got the Grinch characters as DLC, I would be beyond unhyped.

Idk why, I just would be. And I'm saying this as a strong Isaac supporter.
Because it'd be "spoiled" for you. That's what I could get from it anyway. I'd still like Isaac. But any Sonic character before Tails/Knuckles would be mid for me.

You could always join me in shilling for more Mega Man characters, or Tekken.
 

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Since my post got drowned out by the bonus character talk, I’m just gonna relink it here for anyone who’s curious.
Forgot to show this off yesterday, sorry Zinith Zinith
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This one I titled: “Yoshi goes to Hot Topic”

Also this is for the Paper Mario game I’m working on, this is who I have wielding this thing:
 

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If we got the Grinch characters as DLC, I would be beyond unhyped.

Idk why, I just would be. And I'm saying this as a strong Isaac supporter.
In my case, I don't care about Geno/Shadow and mainly just wanted Isaac, RH, and the survivors, and even then CK isn't my #1 choice for RH.

Mach Rider would still be cool though.
 

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Imma keep it a stack with you guys. Never got the Chorus Kids hype. I got the hype with a lot of other things, even Geno. But not them. I know they were rumored, but I just couldn't care about them too much.

Though I got nothing against Rhythm Heaven getting more stuff in Smash.
 

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it ends up turning out the 6 characters missing from the Grinch leak at launch were meant to be the Fighter Pass+Bonus character but they had to be put on the backburner because nintendo
 
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Imma keep it a stack with you guys. Never got the Chorus Kids hype. I got the hype with a lot of other things, even Geno. But not them. I know they were rumored, but I just couldn't care about them too much.

Though I got nothing against Rhythm Heaven getting more stuff in Smash.
As the Rhythm Heaven stan here, I can honestly say the Chorus Kids hype was very likely manufactured by the Gematsu Leak.

Beforehand most people were betting on somebody like Karate Joe as the obvious frontrunner. Then this rumor getting a whole lot right came along claiming Chorus Kids of all things and gained a whole lotta traction (And then quickly lost it shortly afterward).

That being said, having them as the RH pick seems to have stuck. (Possibly due to Gematsu Leak potentially being legitmate albeit outdated information, assuming we now know both Chrom and an RH rep were considered for Smash 4 at one point)

Don't get me wrong, I'd be totally fine with Chorus Kids, but they always felt like a weird choice in terms of frontrunner RH rep status.

They're iconic for sure, but idk, I'm not sure if they'd be the best way to represent the entire series properly. They're a little too basic for my tastes
 
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I just want to say that despite everything, The Grinch would be the hypest newcomer in Smash history. Maybe not in a good way, but still! ;p
 

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Ok so I'm back home from the Bible study I was at.

And my ex was there. The one I mentioned earlier.

We acted polite to each other, and this was the first time I've seen her in nearly three months. Things went better than I expected. I still felt quite awkward but... this helps with closure. I was really nervous tbh.
 
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Imma keep it a stack with you guys. Never got the Chorus Kids hype. I got the hype with a lot of other things, even Geno. But not them. I know they were rumored, but I just couldn't care about them too much.

Though I got nothing against Rhythm Heaven getting more stuff in Smash.
Personally, I think they'd be cool. I don't think they or any other RH character are a necessity by any means, but I can't deny that they have a load of moveset potential to pull from.

I'm disappointed they never got in because I would've loved to have seen how Sakurai would've made a rhythm character.
 
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Yes, we need The Grinch.
Then its settled. We start a petition to get The Grinch into Smash, by any means necessary. If need be, we will surpass the Waluigi trolls and Sakurai will be forced to put The Grinch into Smash, and future Smash games. Its foolproof.
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We're gonna make history, fellas.
 

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I haven't played Rhythm Heaven but this is basically me when I saw Chorus Kids during the Smash 4 days, their design causing my interest:

*sees Chorus Kids and Glee Club mention*

*finds it and watches video*

"Mee."

"Mee!"

"Meeeee!"

"Together now-!"

"MEEEEE!"

me: "yes."
 
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Then its settled. We start a petition to get The Grinch into Smash, by any means necessary. If need be, we will surpass the Waluigi trolls and Sakurai will be forced to put The Grinch into Smash, and future Smash games. Its foolproof.
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We're gonna make history, fellas.
Is there a Grinch support thread on here? If there's not let's start one.
 
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As the Rhythm Heaven stan here, I can honestly say the Chorus Kids hype was very likely manufactured by the Gematsu Leak.

Beforehand most people were betting on somebody like Karate Joe as the obvious frontrunner. Then this rumor getting a whole lot right came along claiming Chorus Kids of all things and gained a whole lotta traction (And then quickly lost it shortly afterward).

That being said, having them as the RH pick seems to have stuck. (Possibly due to Gematsu Leak potentially being legitmate albeit outdated information, assuming we now know both Chrom and an RH rep were considered for Smash 4 at one point)

Don't get me wrong, I'd be totally fine with Chorus Kids, but they always felt like a weird choice in terms of frontrunner RH rep status.

They're iconic for sure, but idk, I'm not sure if they'd be the best way to represent the entire series properly. They're a little too basic for my tastes
Out of curiosity, as a stranger to the franchise. But who in your opinion would make the best pick from Rhythm Heaven?
 

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Imma keep it a stack with you guys. Never got the Chorus Kids hype. I got the hype with a lot of other things, even Geno. But not them. I know they were rumored, but I just couldn't care about them too much.

Though I got nothing against Rhythm Heaven getting more stuff in Smash.
I never got it too, to be honest, though I have a feeling it blew up due to the Gematsu leak, as Ramen Tengoku Ramen Tengoku said. However, someone mentioned a possible gimmick, that while I wasn't a fan of, I thought about it some more and how to improve it. There are some rhythm games, not RH mind you, where you can put in your own music and it has software that converts it to a pattern that can be played as a game (e.g., Rock Band clones). I wonder if it's possible to do a similar type of thing for a RH moveset, where the stage music creates a pattern, invisible to the player, but that if you sync up your attacks to the beat, causes extra damage or something special to happen. For some stages with purely ambient music, the character would still have their attacks, but wouldn't get those buffs, and in particularly chaotic music, they may be overpowered as a result. It would be chaotic, like Hero, some people would hate it as different stages with different music would cause different results--though, in a predictable fashion since the pattern is the same for each song. But it does sound fun from a party game perspective, and definitely not from a competitive one.

I'm not sure how much that lines up with Rhythm Heaven, as that is a very different type of game than most rhythm based games. But thinking about that made me think that would be a fantastic combination, actually using the stage music itself, which is just aesthetics and has no practical purpose right now, to have an impact on the gameplay. Probably wouldn't work, probably doesn't faithfully represent Rhythm Heaven, and there would be people who wouldn't like that gimmick, but that idea made me go from "why?" to "that actually sounds awesome." I'm sure even if this doesn't work, if Sakurai did decide to have a Rhythm Heaven character, they would come up with a better idea that actually works, but that opened me to the possibilities that type of character could bring.
 
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I never got it too, to be honest, though I have a feeling it blew up due to the Gematsu leak, as Ramen Tengoku Ramen Tengoku said. However, someone mentioned a possible gimmick, that while I wasn't a fan of, I thought about it some more and how to improve it. There are some rhythm games, not RH mind you, where you can put in your own music and it has software that converts it to a pattern that can be played as a game (e.g., Rock Band clones). I wonder if it's possible to do a similar type of thing for a RH moveset, where the stage music creates a pattern, invisible to the player, but that if you sync up your attacks to the beat, causes extra damage or something special to happen. For some stages with purely ambient music, the character would still have their attacks, but wouldn't get those buffs, and in particularly chaotic music, they may be overpowered as a result. It would be chaotic, like Hero, some people would hate it as different stages with different music would cause different results--though, in a predictable fashion since the pattern is the same for each song. But it does sound fun from a party game perspective, and definitely not from a competitive one.

I'm not sure how much that lines up with Rhythm Heaven, as that is a very different type of game than most rhythm based games. But thinking about that made me think that would be a fantastic combination, actually using the stage music itself, which is just aesthetics and has no practical purpose right now, to have an impact on the gameplay. Probably wouldn't work, probably doesn't faithfully represent Rhythm Heaven, and there would be people who wouldn't like that gimmick, but that idea made me go from "why?" to "that actually sounds awesome." I'm sure even if this doesn't work, if Sakurai did decide to have a Rhythm Heaven character, they would come up with a better idea that actually works, but that opened me to the possibilities that type of character could bring.
oh god all the poor TOs that would have to organize getting all the music unlocked on their set ups
 

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Well i spent a good part of the day and evening wandering around my woods with just a shirt and swimsuit on trying to find a dog we never did.

Hopefully we can find it tomorrow as it not ours and we were trying to help the family look for it.

Quite an eventful evening. Now to see if I get poison ivy...
 

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I never got it too, to be honest, though I have a feeling it blew up due to the Gematsu leak, as Ramen Tengoku Ramen Tengoku said. However, someone mentioned a possible gimmick, that while I wasn't a fan of, I thought about it some more and how to improve it. There are some rhythm games, not RH mind you, where you can put in your own music and it has software that converts it to a pattern that can be played as a game (e.g., Rock Band clones). I wonder if it's possible to do a similar type of thing for a RH moveset, where the stage music creates a pattern, invisible to the player, but that if you sync up your attacks to the beat, causes extra damage or something special to happen. For some stages with purely ambient music, the character would still have their attacks, but wouldn't get those buffs, and in particularly chaotic music, they may be overpowered as a result. It would be chaotic, like Hero, some people would hate it as different stages with different music would cause different results--though, in a predictable fashion since the pattern is the same for each song. But it does sound fun from a party game perspective, and definitely not from a competitive one.

I'm not sure how much that lines up with Rhythm Heaven, as that is a very different type of game than most rhythm based games. But thinking about that made me think that would be a fantastic combination, actually using the stage music itself, which is just aesthetics and has no practical purpose right now, to have an impact on the gameplay. Probably wouldn't work, probably doesn't faithfully represent Rhythm Heaven, and there would be people who wouldn't like that gimmick, but that idea made me go from "why?" to "that actually sounds awesome." I'm sure even if this doesn't work, if Sakurai did decide to have a Rhythm Heaven character, they would come up with a better idea that actually works, but that opened me to the possibilities that type of character could bring.
Unfortunately, there is always still the one thing that stands in the way of a Rhythm Heaven anything (including stages and AT’s) being practical, which is online lag... how do you suppose they get around that? It might be possible with rollback netcode rather than Smash’s current delaying netcode, since the music would be in sync client side at least, but who knows if they’d ever go for that?
 

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Chorus Kids being a group means they can act out all the minigames that focus on a quartet/trio etc doing actions either one after another or simultaneously. That gives them the means to represent a lot more RH elements than any other character, while also executing a RH gimmick in a way that isn't "uhh the BGM is involved" (which would be trash, it'd require programming in BPM for every single song you can fight to, all future songs, balancing the character around every song, etc, it's so incredibly impractical and dumb).

Seriously, I've thought it out before, having them act out minigames like Lock Step or Flipper Flop on their ownsome would be genius. A blend of Game and Watch pulling from his games and Duck Hunt (by having the character be one entity made up of multiple characters working together).
 

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Out of curiosity, as a stranger to the franchise. But who in your opinion would make the best pick from Rhythm Heaven?
That's the thing, there's a whole lotta candidates when it come to RH representation. Us not agreeing on a single one is likely the main reason you don't see any of em super high in fan polls. Heck, even I'm not quite sure. I personally narrowed it down to 4.

Karate Joe has the honor of having a variation of his rhythm game "Karate Man" in every single game since the original. Tbh, his only real downside is that he'd focus too much on punching and kicking, while in my eyes, a true RH rep should focus having a whole lotta characters and items in a G&W/Pac-Man style manner. That being said, he's pretty much one of the series mascots, so I think he's at least worth mentioning

Tibby is a very new face, having only debuted in the most recent game in the series Rhythm Heaven Megamix. In that game, he's treated as the main character as the whole game kinda has flowing narrative. Due to him being a blank slate of sorts, he could easily have a whole lotta items and characters from the series in his moveset without feeling out of place

The Wrestler and/or Reporter. They're oneoffs, but they've got some notoriety given their memetic status as their rhythm game, "Ringside", became the subject of a hundred internet parodies back in the day and thus, it's one of the most wellknown among them.

Tap Trial Girl. She's one of the series' many "rhythm girls" of sorts. Her minigame "Tap Trial" is reoccurring, having appeared in 3 out of the 4 main series games. That, and like Tibby (Heck, maybe even moreso than Tibby), she's a blank slate so you can easily give her elements from throughout the series without it feeling odd.

If I had to pick one out of all these... uh... Reporter and Wrestler. Cuz the Reporter's quite the QT. But in terms of actually best representing the series itself, maybe either Tap Trial Girl or Tibby. GAH IT'S SO HARD TO CHOOSE!

I'd also be perfectly fine with any others tho, like Chorus Kids, the Barista, and so on

I also hear some people bring up a Rhythm Trio/Duo of sorts that'd be sorta similar to Duck Hunt, clumping two or three of the picks into one character. I've usually see it represented with Tap Trial Girl, a Chorus Kid and a monkey (another series regular). That could work too, honestly
 
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