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[Metal Shop X]

I'm so freakin' close to the timeskip, my heart shaking.

also

Spoiler: Chapter 10 Spoiler

Thanks to the power of DBZ fusion, I can use Nosferatu while not being a mage.

Ennemies are going be like

 

[TheMightyP]

add mr monopoly to smash brothers

His gimmick is buying out every stage and causing each fighter to go bankrupt.

This hard counters Mario's up-b.

 

[Deleted member]

add mr monopoly to smash brothers

you thought that you could casually mention a Hasbro rep without catching my eye, didn't you
Zoe gang rise up

 

[TheMightyP]

Also, Monopoly guy has a name, it's...

Rich Uncle Pennybags.

 

[Deleted member]

Poor Zoe Trent's even getting ousted in the Hasbro department

Don't be so sure

 

[Wyoming]

The True Hasbro rep:

Spoiler

 

[Opossum]

I mean, technically we already have SimCity content in Smash.

 

[TheCJBrine]

SimCity is one of those franchises like Tetris, Minecraft, and Skyrim. I’ve always thought they deserved representation. But a stage is the best way to represent them.

I don’t really understand how or why just a stage is the “best” way to represent things like Minecraft.

Not to mention a character would be cool as well and wouldn’t hurt representation at all, but you actually can’t represent all of the game’s stuff with just a stage without doing things that they could literally do with every character.

 

[Deleted member]

The True Hasbro rep:

Spoiler

That's not Glover
...don't act all surprised, even I know Zoe's impossible

 

[Ace C.R.O.S.S.]

Don't be so sure

The True Hasbro rep:

Spoiler

Nah, everyone knows that the Hasbro character would be from MLP, to please all those Smash fans bronies

 

[Deleted member]

Nah, everyone knows that the Hasbro character would be from MLP, to please all those Smash fans bronies

go commit fire coconut gun at yourself

 

[Ace C.R.O.S.S.]

And I suddenly feel like I opened a pandora box around here

 

[TheMightyP]

SimCity is one of those franchises like Tetris, Minecraft, and Skyrim. I’ve always thought they deserved representation. But a stage is the best way to represent them.

Minecraft and Skyrim can work with a character.

SimCity already works as an Assist Trophy, and could also be a stage, and Tetris can actually work REALLY well as an Assist Trophy come to think of it. Not sure on characters unless you want Mr. GameBoy Man who attacks with stuff from Retro GB games.

 

[BlueMonk]

I don’t really understand how or why just a stage is the “best” way to represent things like Minecraft.

Not to mention a character would be cool as well and wouldn’t hurt representation at all, but you actually can’t represent all of the game’s stuff with just a stage without doing things that they could literally do with every character.

Saying a series is best represented by a stage or boss is usually just a roundabout way of saying you don't want the character. Having a character is always best, full stop.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Not sure on characters unless you want Mr. GameBoy Man who attacks with stuff from Retro GB games.

Well... now that you mention it...

 

[Metal Shop X]

The memes are evolving.

Nothing can stop them, and it's GLORIOUS!

 

[Wademan94]

Wademan94 Thought you'd like this:

Edgy boi and sparky boi. I love them both.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Mr. GameBoy Man

why not just call him Game Boy

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Minecraft and Skyrim have actual protagonists that could be made into Smash characters. Tetris has nothing, and The Sims has characters but no protagonists AFAIK. So Tetris and The Sims could be given a stage and/or item.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Now that I've spoiled myself on some of the story of the Blue Lions, yeah.

I'm real glad I went with the Black Eagles. Gimme flak for it, but I would be 100% fine with Edelgard in Smash, although I doubt it would happen in the first place. She's a great character.

 

[TheMightyP]

why not just call him Game Boy

I don't know, Mr. GameBoy Man sounded better in my head.

 

[Opossum]

Saying a series is best represented by a stage or boss is usually just a roundabout way of saying you don't want the character. Having a character is always best, full stop.

This was also literally the exact argument used against Duck Hunt before their inclusion. "Not everything needs to be a character, it'd be fine as a stage."

 

[TheMightyP]

Ngl, I would be a little suspicious if all Banjo brought with him were just Rare content, especially since some form of Minecraft content was rumored for a long time.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

To be fair, I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with saying, "Not everything needs to be a character, it'd be fine as a stage". It's true. It's just that folks weaponize it to shoot down characters they don't want, which is where it gets murky.

Like not that Smash speculation is "real ****", but I think people focus way too much on characters to the point that they don't think about how series are represented through music, stages, and other ways. Characters may be the most hype, as that's what fans look for, but the idea that any new series to Smash absolutely must have a character? I fundamentally disagree.

Tetris for example, has no actual characters. There's no main character. You, as the player, may as well be the main character. The blocks have no personality. They're blocks. They don't have arms and legs. Their role is literally to be rotated into open spaces.

That, to me, is one of the only examples of, "Would be best as a stage". Others may disagree, but that's one stage I think would be fantastic, and not needing a playable character to go with it.

 

[Ura]

Saying a series is best represented by a stage or boss is usually just a roundabout way of saying you don't want the character. Having a character is always best, full stop.

Thinks of all the people that say "Advance Wars is best represented as an AT and/or Stage".

I usually find that these people have no idea what they're talking about saying nonsense like that (probably not even familiar with the series themselves). Considering the Unit Purchasing system Andy would being to Smash would easily make him one of the most unique newcomers. Being able to do what like, no one on the roster is capable of doing.

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with saying, "Not everything needs to be a character, it'd be fine as a stage". It's true. It's just that folks weaponize it to shoot down characters they don't want, which is where it gets murky.

Like not that Smash speculation is "real ****", but I think people focus way too much on characters to the point that they don't think about how series are represented through music, stages, and other ways. Characters may be the most hype, as that's what fans look for, but the idea that any new series to Smash absolutely must have a character? I fundamentally disagree.

Tetris for example, has no actual characters. There's no main character. You, as the player, may as well be the main character. The blocks have no personality. They're blocks. They don't have arms and legs. Their role is literally to be rotated into open spaces.

That, to me, is one of the only examples of, "Would be best as a stage". Others may disagree, but that's one stage I think would be fantastic, and not needing a playable character to go with it.

But then you realize that Tetris Block could have an awesome moveset

 

[Will]

Shoutout to ZaneHitsurugi for telling me that Target apparently sells video games

now i got three houses and now i can relate to everyone babyyyy

 

[TheMightyP]

To be fair, I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with saying, "Not everything needs to be a character, it'd be fine as a stage". It's true. It's just that folks weaponize it to shoot down characters they don't want, which is where it gets murky.

Like not that Smash speculation is "real ****", but I think people focus way too much on characters to the point that they don't think about how series are represented through music, stages, and other ways. Characters may be the most hype, as that's what fans look for, but the idea that any new series to Smash absolutely must have a character? I fundamentally disagree.

Tetris for example, has no actual characters. There's no main character. You, as the player, may as well be the main character. The blocks have no personality. They're blocks. They don't have arms and legs. Their role is literally to be rotated into open spaces.

That, to me, is one of the only examples of, "Would be best as a stage". Others may disagree, but that's one stage I think would be fantastic, and not needing a playable character to go with it.

I'm saying: Bring in M R. G A M E B O Y M A N

Neutral B is the Superball that bounces off platforms

 

[Will]

This was also literally the exact argument used against Duck Hunt before their inclusion. "Not everything needs to be a character, it'd be fine as a stage."

I mean

we got both

 

[Rangez]

Morning, Everyone! Anyone here been catching up with Infinity Train? Decided to give it a shot and I've been kind of invested in the story and where it goes.

 

[Deleted member]

This was also literally the exact argument used against Duck Hunt before their inclusion. "Not everything needs to be a character, it'd be fine as a stage."

You gotta be ****ting me
Duck Hunt Dog was like the most popular choice for a new NES era rep, was it not??

 

[TheMightyP]

Also, I love how we keep pushing the "anyone can get in" character. First, when Snake was revealed, it was "WOW, NOW ANYBODY CAN GET IN", and then with Sonic it was "WOW, NOW ANYBODY CAN GET IN", and then with Cloud it was "WOW, NOW ANYBODY CAN GET IN", and then with Ridley it was, "WOW, NOW ANYBODY CAN GET IN", and then with K. Rool it was "WOW, NOW ANYBODY CAN GET IN", and then witg Plant it was "WOW, NOW ANYBODY CAN GET IN", and now with Banjo, it's "WOW, NO ANYBODY CAN GET IN".

The Smash community is a broken record.

 

[Will]

alright time to play three houses baby

which house do i choose and how are you going to assassinate me before i pick golden deer

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

alright time to play three houses baby

which house do i choose and how are you going to assassinate me before i pick golden deer

While Golden Deer is likely a good choice, I went Black Eagles. Their units are really great, and incredibly varied.

Plus, Edelgard is the best.

No but really, if you want my honest but probably uninformed opinion, Black Eagles route seems to me to be the "true" route. But that may differ based on who you ask.

 

[Gentlepanda]

how are you going to assassinate me before i pick golden deer

on lady edelgard's orders i will now beat you to death

 

[Will]

While Golden Deer is likely a good choice, I went Black Eagles. Their units are really great, and incredibly varied.

Plus, Edelgard is the best.

edelgard can eat my shorts

 

[Deleted member]

edelgard can eat my shorts

edelgard eat pant
edelgard eat pant

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'm saying: Bring in M R. G A M E B O Y M A N

Neutral B is the Superball that bounces off platforms

Down B is Mole Mania, where Mr Gameboy Man burrows under the ground where you can control his trajectory by holding down the buttons. Once you let go or you're down there for about 3 to 5 seconds, he will rise out of the ground hitting any opponent in his way.

Dang... I actually really want this now

 

[Will]

No but really, if you want my honest but probably uninformed opinion, Black Eagles route seems to me to be the "true" route.

There isn't a true route though

 

[CosmicQuark]

Saying a series is best represented by a stage or boss is usually just a roundabout way of saying you don't want the character. Having a character is always best, full stop.

No, that's not true--and not a fan of insinuating you know someone's ulterior intentions/motivations. A person can think a game/franchise is most notable for the world rather than the characters, especially in the games where the character is an avatar or generic archetype, without hating on the characters or the franchise themselves. If you disagree and believe the characters in a particular franchise are important, that's fine, but you can't dismiss an opinion because you don't like it.

And to that full stop, I (respectively) disagree. There are many ways to represent a character, despite speculation focusing primarily on characters--and I don't believe having a character is always best. I'd love Tetris to be represented more than music--as a stage--but trying to make the blocks into a character is, IMHO, just shoehorning it in, and not actually faithfully representing the series.

Disagreeing on a particular point is fine--Agree to disagree if you'd rather not argue an actual point, but saying "that opinion is wrong and you just don't like the character" comes across as unnecessary and unhelpful.