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Sorry, but if this is your understanding of how Smash is played competitively, I'd keep my speculation down to technical aspects and stay away from talking about the metagame. Let's wait for the established players to comment on their tournament experience for that.
I actually just expect people to not be idiots. They are taking feedback right there at E3! Instead of just saying the game sucks say WHY. What game features didn't she enjoy, was there a mechanic that was weird, things like that. You could hate every single thing about the game but just saying that DOES NO GOOD AT ALL plus it's honestly just rude. Other players who were there have said that they gave feedback on certain mechanics and have been honest about the game without being jerks. She is perfectly capable of doing the same and instead just dismissed the game entirely.
Come on Capps. Let's be real here. I could easily go off the handle and sound like a total asshole if you want to see what's unnecessary criticism here. I don't see anything wrong with what she said. I see her giving her honest two cents for people who are interested, considering most people are, and she was one of the first people to have the opportunity to play.
I am being honest, just because she could have been worse doesn't make what she did any better. Just saying "I'm just going to play PM" without explaining WHY doesn't help anyone trying to learn about if they like the game, and again she didn't even mention why she wasn't excited, just called the game hopeless. She could have had some tact like others have at a bare minimum, and people acting like this makes us all look bad.
It's Twitter, man. You don't monologue a novel about why you don't like a game on Twitter.
Well it is facebook so if you're mentioning the character limit here, it's kinda a null point. See, if she was doing what the others were doing she'd be posting her actual full out thoughts for people to see (like a lot of the invitational folks are doing). That little facebook bit of hers is already on other parts of the net and people are saying how disrespectful it was. Nintendo gave us something HUGE and seeing someone's rudeness towards that is saddening.
Oh, I thought it was Twitter.
It doesn't take much to fix this kind of thing up, Ulevo. It only took me about 3 sentences to both say that PASBR was going to be **** and why that is. Just saying it sucks is non-constructive. There are people in this thread that have given a better explanation as to why they don't like it with the same amount of text. There's really no good excuse for her behaviour.
I liked chain grabs, personally. Obviously not the abuse cases, like D3 infinites. Brawls were problematic because you couldn't DI a lot of them, and on Final Destination they're a pain. But they're cool otherwise.
It is a fair point that she hasn't made her own piece on why she feels the way she does. Maybe she'll do it later, I won't count on it.
She's saying a game still in beta where she hasn't even experienced all of the features of has no hope. That's a tad harsh and preemptive to me, plus she's making that kind of statement with probably less then a day of gameplay.
Now what is Sheik supposed to do? Bottom-tier. 1/10, would not main again.
I'd like to hear you thoughts when you get back. I also feel like this is leaning more towards Brawl than I'd like, but I won't know if that makes this game necessarily "bad" until I understand the proper way to play, which takes time.
This leaves a sour taste in my mouth as well. Disheartening to read. I'm not saying we should all be fanboying Nintendo but come on. I'd killed for that chance (not that I earn it but).
It is a fair point that she hasn't made her own piece on why she feels the way she does. Maybe she'll do it later, I won't count on it.
I think I'm going to go now, actually. See if I can get to play it early. I might know some people there who are running the gig. I'm going to test and validate the list I posted earlier if time permits me to do so. If there's anything not on that list I missed that's worth trying out, just post it and I'll check.
Not unfair to say though, she can have an opinion on it. 'This new game seems competitively hopeless after trying' is fair enough if that's what her experience leads her to believe. A lot of people are thinking what she said, she just happened to be the person to say it. No reason to string her up for it. If we do it on here and give some reason, we get called out for "wanting to add elitist tech to the game".
It's not that she didn't like the game that's the bad part, in my opinion. It's that she provided absolutely nothing of discernable value to people who might be listening to her feedback - just said that it's hopeless and that Nintendo will probably be the killjoy that removes Project M.
i am more upset that she played it for a few hours and said there is no hope about a pre-release build, which to me is stupid af
And if she did provide any sort of reason for it? Would it really have mattered that much? Half the community would shout her down for being a 'Melee elitist' only interested in 'making the game harder to control' or something other. She could've said something simple, could've said something complicated, but would it really matter that much? We're here right now reflecting on anything she could've said anyway, so no harm, no foul.
It's a screen cap of a casual facebook post, not a personal message to smash's design team. Your expectations for her are frankly ridiculous
I don't think it's unreasonable for her to have said it, don't get me wrong. If that's what she thinks, good for her. She could have just said it in a way that wasn't so downright insulting. And, to be rude in my own part, I see no reason not to string her up for it. Hell, until yesterday, I didn't even know who she was, and honestly I don't particularly care. If she's going to be an ass about something, I see no reason not to call her out on it. From the safety of my computer on a smash website where she is not present.
You're no fun anymore.
Is it any more insulting than half of the things half of the people here have said? Really, anything she could've said or done, we've said or are doing. I'm totally fine with her being the one to step up and voice some kind of disappointment. It's unfair to expect some kind of reason out of an opinion since half of us would just **** on it anyway.I don't think it's unreasonable for her to have said it, don't get me wrong. If that's what she thinks, good for her. She could have just said it in a way that wasn't so downright insulting. And, to be rude in my own part, I see no reason not to string her up for it. Hell, until yesterday, I didn't even know who she was, and honestly I don't particularly care. If she's going to be an *** about something, I see no reason not to call her out on it. From the safety of my computer on a smash website where she is not present.
THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS GUY.
Yes, it would be infinitely more helpful than just providing nothing at all, and she was in a unique position to comment about it because a ton of people just watched her participate in the first publicised tournament.
Like I said, nothing she could say then or now that you, I, or some other person wasn't already thinking or had talked about on here.
Then let's give an example, shall we? I watched the early video of PSABR when it came out, and I said, "I don't think this game will work. Over-reliance on Final Smash-esque attacks means you will kill everyone in only three different ways every time and makes the gameplay boring."
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I guess it's bad to be that definitive about the final product. But even if she said that in the game's current incarnation it seems hopeless she'd probably get hate.
