So... Sheik's infinite....

[Poltergust]

You may have already heard about this, but look at this topic:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234716

Sheik has a new infinite that works on almost every character. Unfortunately, Yoshi is one of those characters. If this technique becomes wide-spread, it may make the Sheik match-up almost impossible (luckily, I second a character unaffected by this technique).

What are your takes on it? How will this affect the match-up? Do you think that it may become banned (I personally doubt it)?

 

[Yosheon]

Like the jab lock and laser lock, it shouldn't be hard to avoid.

 

[Shiri]

I disagree; jab locks and laser locks need setups. This technique is self-sufficient.

Wow, and I thought getting rid of Sheik's down throw stopped her from being so incredibly homo.

Hmmm. This should make the matchup pretty interesting. It may turn into a soft counter very soon since forward tilt is so good, but we have tools to beat it on the ground, so I guess we'll just need to play it by ear for a little while to figure out how much this affects us.

 

[MrEh]

Like all "infinites", just wait it out.

It's theorycraft until proven in actual matches.


Once Sheik players start winning tournaments with this, then we should start worrying. lol

 

[bigman40]

Looked at it. It seems to be escape-able. Plus, someone did a frame data test on it, and it kinda proves that it doesn't work. As far as I know, we'll just have to pay attention to the thread to see what happens to it.

If it's a true infinite, then we can begin to do analysis with the new information we have. If not, then this can be closed.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Since I like Yoshi I'll give you my inside scoop on how to avoid this.

Pivot grabs and Bairs are your best friends.


pivot grabs= allows you to out space her (just watch out for her Bair that links into f-tilt)

Bair= you can try and put up a wall with Bair. You see the funny thing is is that f-tilt really needs to hit you while your on the ground since Yoshi is so light (doesn't work with everyone). So walling with Bair and forcing Sheik to the edge where it is harder to perform has just became your key in this battle.

Hope this helps.

 

[Metatitan]

yeah our uair or nair proble breaks through this

 

[saviorslegacy]

yeah our uair or nair proble breaks through this

no

10urscrewed

 

[EdreesesPieces]

There are always techniques that come out like this once a month. Bowser had his grab infinites, etc etc. Footstool combos NEVER turn out to be as good as hyped. There is no need to fear something that has never worked on you. I don't trust the legitimacy of ANY footstool combos this until I see people doing it to good players consistently in tournament. Footstools can be DI'd, even smash DId, and they are tricky to get - you might get footstooled yourself, or certain moves can block it. I don't really trust this.

 

[Poltergust]

Yoshi is not a light character in the least bit... I think the term you were looking for is "floaty," saviorslegacy.

Anyways, I agree about waiting it out. I just want to bring this to attention in the Yoshi boards. Got to stay informed.

 

[marikyoshi2]

Seems to be escapable, judging from the frame data, and analysis of how it works.

We should be able to DI out of it frequently.

 

[Pez55]

The problem with the infinite. is that is that if an opponent is footstooled near the ground, they have time to counter Sheik's b-air.

 

[Airborne]

there's a video of it up against mk. it looks fairly easy o.o.... just thought you all would want to see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmsrrBDfTXc&feature=player_embedded

 

[Shiri]

At any rate, the general consensus is that we should see how it goes from here on in.

I guess just post here if you either experience it or perform it on someone else (another Yoshi player, that is) in a tournament setting. Just to keep this from becoming meaningless amounts of speculation, all other posts will be discouraged.

 

[Scarlet Jile]

Infinites really ain't no thang.

If they're not banned (a lot of times they are), then you just punch them in the dick until they stop. Works nearly 100% of the time.

 

[Shiri]

:D

 

[Metatitan]

i wouldnt worry too much about this unless you play her on final destination, even then with proper DI this shouldnt be a problem for us

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

Oh noes a new infinite! Well will make me want to play Shiek a little more though, may be XD

Thanks for sharing this... My thoughts: Just like others said, it will be like the laser lock... you won't have to worry about it much, but if it happens, then... well that sucks XD

 

[JackieRabbit5]

glad for sheik but sad for yoshi

hmm i'm torn lol...thats the life of a dual main though

 

[chimpact]

There are always techniques that come out like this once a month. Bowser had his grab infinites, etc etc. Footstool combos NEVER turn out to be as good as hyped. There is no need to fear something that has never worked on you. I don't trust the legitimacy of ANY footstool combos this until I see people doing it to good players consistently in tournament. Footstools can be DI'd, even smash DId, and they are tricky to get - you might get footstooled yourself, or certain moves can block it. I don't really trust this.

Diddy kong grab release footstool on m2k. GET HYPE!


jk i know where you coming from.

 

[Metatitan]

so... sheik's infinite.... does not exist. shiri plz lock this

 

[MRTW113]

Shoot, nevermind.
*omits post*