So...I think I just broke the Ice Climbers...

[Mewter]

This sucks, I can't infract Steel.

Also, well done Hylian, thanks for making my least favourite opponents even gayer.

Exactly. Good job. In fact, for this, I think I'll even drop Link!

Just kidding, but thanks anyways. Now Luc's aura sphere is even more useless on the ground.

 

[Deleted member]

Lame. Former G&W main, turns around and helps the enemy. Thanks Hylian...

 

[Vyse]

Good work Hylian!
:D

You best make sure this doesn't end up being another false hope :X

 

[EdreesesPieces]

This is freakin the best news i've heard in awhile, lol. plz start beating all the metaknight players guys ^_^

 

[cutter]

Great, just what we need... people to start complaining about ICs next and wanting their **** banned -_-

All joking aside, this looks to be really promising. ICs seriously have the potential to cement themselves as the third best character in the game.

 

[orange/xd]

You invented a tech that triples the grab range of nana?

This would be hella broken. lol

 

[Sinz]

This would be such a good thing.
Creating a triangle meta would be great. It would allow for diversity without the MK fear :D

 

[camden]

It lessens centralization on purely MK, but increases centralization on the three of them. Cool. **** the rest of the top tier, it's all MK, Snake, and ICs.

 

[Frown]

Since Brawl's release, I've claimed ICs are top 5.

I might actually be right.

 

[Nixernator]

I can't wait for the vids of this and of the applications in tourny matches it'd be nice to see a new powerhouse char in Brawl.

 

[camden]

ICs are already a powerhouse. They currently rank fourth on the tournament standings. Once their match-ups are redone, they could possibly rise on the list, since it appears their metagame is steadily inclining.

 

[j0s3ph]

Well now I'm even happier I picked up a second for Sheik

 

[WindMajor]

If all the Metas in the US can't break Metaknight, I doubt you alone can break the Ice Climbers.

That is, unless your IC's are THAT incredibly sexy.

 

[Tarmogoyf]

This would be such a good thing.
Creating a triangle meta would be great. It would allow for diversity without the MK fear :D

I agree. It whould make me anti ban in a heartbeat. And if it makes the Snake MU any easier (and it sounds like it will do alot more than that...).

*goes to try out*

 

[Pierce7d]

All the MKs in the US HAVE broken MK lolololol

Also, nice job Hylian. I knew you could do grounded Brevesals, but I NEVER thought of trying to apply my knowledge to Ice Climbers. This gives me so many more ideas that I'm so tempted not to share because I really despise ICs, but after some testing I'll let you know if I can help you break them further.

 

[CRASHiC]

You know, I called the ICs for top tier a while ago, and Susa didn't believe me. Now we just need more people to break Pika, ZSS, and Marth and my top tier will be correct :D

Also, for those who don't know what he's talking about. He found a set up into grabing. SEXY.

 

[Hylian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMSfwHiCjmI

 

[Wikipedia]

First. Cool.

 

[Frown]

Yep, you broke them. I almost feel like sending you a friend request.

 

[momochuu]

So uhh...you do the forward one with double tap forward? ;x

 

[Meru.]

... I wanted MK to be banned.

Oh well, if it doesn't effect the Peach match-up, I'll be happy .

 

[Minwu]

I feel like MK is one of the chars to be least affected by a new grab setup by ICs no matter how good, because of his inherent ability to deal with being grabbed, especially against ICs where he can simply space retreating sh dairs or fh fairs.


ICs have still become a better character as a whole, though.

 

[gcubedude]

Wow. I'm gonna so try this out tomorrow. If I can pull it off easily, I may start maining Ice Climbers. Great job, Hylian

 

[Hylian]

I've been looking around the forums, and apparently one or two people have actually picked brawl back up and started playing again JUST because of this discovery.

People like new things I guess. I hope a lot of people start playing ICs now .

 

[highfive]

*Sniff*
as an aspiring IC's n00b this makes me want to learn even more from them! Thanks for the new AT.

 

[POKE40]

I want moar videos. MOAR!!1!1
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I want to see the possibilities :D
Good ****. :O

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Hylian, you are just plain h4x.

Serious freakin props, man.

 

[Tarmogoyf]

This desynch is so beyond good, it's not even funny. Instant momentum reverse on the ground? Getting grabs will be so moronically easy, adn this desynch is so fast. Just incredible. Thank you so much Hylian. You really did just break the ICs.

 

[Hive Mind]

Whoever is talking in the video should consider voice acting. It's really quite defined.

 

[Minwu]

Let's see Hylian fight Dojo now.

 

[Mclena45]

That's broken like Meta Knight! xD And like wow o.o I'm going to need to try that out

 

[Pierce7d]

Lain used this at SNES.

 

[Kyu Puff]

Wait, didn't I find this a year and a half ago?

 

[Hylian]

Wait, didn't I find this a year and a half ago?

Just looked.

"8: Initial Dash De-Sync. Jam the control stick in the direction opposite to where you're facing, let go, and towards the end of the dash, input Blizzard, Ice Block, or Shield + any move. Only Nana responds at first, so she Blizzards, Ice Blocks, or Shields alone, leaving Popo to do anything. The timing on this is tricky, but in my opinion worth learning.

Credit: Discovered by me on 02-16-2008. I tested this in Melee and found out that this was possible, but harder to do and less useful because Ice Block came out slower."

Hmm well. For mine you don't need to dash the opposite direction, you can keep running, you can grounded b-reversal and you can't really input it through a buffered dash you have to keep going a little I think.

Very similar though and it could be the same thing though absolutely no one uses it, especially my b-reversal method :/.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Now I guess it's time to play the waiting game and see if this catches on.

 

[Hylian]

Now I guess it's time to play the waiting game and see if this catches on.

I haven't even had the chance to use it in a match yet lol. I haven't played brawl in weeks.

All week before hobo18 I'm going to practice it and my CG's though. This weekend.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Well, I assume that other people have figured it out thanks to your thread/videos so the responsiblity of testing it isn't entirely on your shoulders. All in all, it would be better if more people did figure it out so that it could be decided more quickly whether or not this is something that people should invest time in learning.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

why does kyupuff know more about brawl icies than brawl ic mains?