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So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

Hylian

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I hope I play Vinnie in tournament! :p.
 

SSBBDaisy

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What do you do about people that complain about you playing climbers? I can only practice my crap against cpus. People shun me for playing climbers and I'm not even that consistent with cging or hobbling. I've been looking for the reason why climbers aren't banned.

Instead I play olimar but they complain about him to. The only one they don't complain about is Peach.


Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Also I was thinking about dropping climbers but I love them sooo much~~~~<3
 

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I hope i play Vinnie in tournament in Grand Finals so I can destroy him
If we play, you should totally IC ditto me in tournament >_>.


<_<.


The ledge won't save you this time.


(I'll probably lose regardless lol)
 

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What do you do about people that complain about you playing climbers? I can only practice my crap against cpus. People shun me for playing climbers and I'm not even that consistent with cging or hobbling. I've been looking for the reason why climbers aren't banned.

Instead I play olimar but they complain about him to. The only one they don't complain about is Peach.


Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Also I was thinking about dropping climbers but I love them sooo much~~~~<3
We're not banned because we have such a small grab range, and once nana is gone, we're ****. Icies = Low Tier character + High Tier Gimmick.

Also, just tell them off, its not their problem what character you play. If you let them get to you its not worth playing any character.
 

SSBBDaisy

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Well don't you think it is kind of broken. I mean yeah you have small grab range. Except pivot grabs have better range making it easier for the grab. Not only that, desyncs aid getting the grab on the entire cast. ICs also force opponents to have like a different playstile, they become a lot more defensive and its like its not smash bros anymore its moar like don't get ****ing grabbed while nana is by popo. This is what I hear from people at school that I play. And i've never met someone else who uses ic's techniques. The only people I know that don't have much of a problem with the ICs (only a little bit) are gmoney and sax but I think its they can kick my butt anyway.

Thanks for the advice. It just seems like the only place I can really play ICs without people hating me (without me knowing it) is on Random Brawl. And the only place I can play it where people are force to bear with it is at tournaments.

Thanks for paying attention to this ****ty *** inconsistent ICs main. Yall are awesome T_T.
 

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Its not broken at all, you're supposed to play differently vs different characters in the first place anyways. If a fight was just character 1 vs character 1, then it would be really boring, no? Thats why there is match, discussion, metagame, advanced techniques for different characters, etc. The fact that they don't want to adapt to play more defensively shows they don't want to change. Fighting games are meant to have grimy stuff at higher levels.

Just play the game how you want to, not how other people want you to.
 

DeLux

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If they are forced to play a defensive style, why don't they just embrace a character that is naturally inclined to play without approaching such as TL?

Sounds like you need new friends to play with imo lol
 

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We're, what, 7 on the tier? If it took this long to say MK is broken, they'll never ban ICs.
They'd ban diddy, snake, falco, or marth first. No one in this game is broken. MK is beatable.

:phone:
 

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Having to dash dance desync is not a bad thing. The best ICs do it all the time, and most feature it as their primary desync option
 

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That would be me! I use SND as well.

Okay so I do this desync but I don't know what it is. I back dash but I click forward really fast and popo does a turnaround in the middle of the backdash. Then it looks like Nana is doing a SND. Do you know what I mean? Maybe I'll take a video today.
 

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Hey smoom I know this is pointless and ********


but

for some reason when I hear your username it makes me think of a smoochum.
 

Hylian

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Smoom you would get a lot of grabs and get hit a lot less if you use the squall desynch to shoot an IB when you land with squall. Just mash B at the end of it pretty much or learn the timing, I think it's easy lol and it would help you a lot seeing how you use squall.
 

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How does an IB out of squall help if when i squall his shield, most of the time he jumps and dairs?
He didn't just jump and dair most of the time. Several times he ran after you to try and punish you when you went away from him and you could have grabbed him with the squall desynch. It keeps you safe, sets up for grabs, and is instant so there really isn't a reason not to do it if you aren't in range for anything else. You can even do it and keep running away and you will just drag nana with you while shes doing the IB if you were trying to be safe.

Just practice and try it out, I promise it's really useful.
 

DeLux

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Good Set Smoom

And along with what Hylian is saying, if you're feeling super technical, you could LD1 out of squall instead of the standard squall desync because it let's you move a little more away from your opponent in terms of spacing where as with squall you kind of need to stationary the squall before the mashing component Hylian was talking about otherwise Popo or Both Climbers will IB. If you LD1, you can just keep inputting away the entire time.

But generally squall desyncing is easier than LD1 imo
 

Hylian

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I input away the entire time and still get nana only to IB >_> lol. I just press towards them when I press B because I know the timing.

My streams looking pretty good I think, gotta figure out how to set up brawl on it.
http://www.own3d.tv/Hylian
 

DeLux

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I input away the entire time and still get nana only to IB >_> lol. I just press towards them when I press B because I know the timing.

My streams looking pretty good I think, gotta figure out how to set up brawl on it.
http://www.own3d.tv/Hylian
Get 3 Y splitters, a cap card, and another cable. Or if your TV has splitters already, you can just get another cable and the cap card
 

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Nice work Smoom! My only question is, why did you pummel after you got the grab virtually every time? Because it seems like that would just help him mash faster. Does it help get your nana in position? Or is it just a bad habit?

...Or some combination of the two?
 
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