So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

[Sieguest]

Things will look up once I move out for college. 'Till then, it's Tink the Wifi Warrior for me (with ICs on a good connection day).

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Hylian....give me the stage thread :D

Thanks.

 

[Hylian]

Sorry i havent even been home lol i will sometime tonight if i have time.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Take your time, I just wanted to see if you knew what the game plan was lol.

Oh and mannnnn, the Unity Ruleset discussion thread is exploding again. I'm probably going to be posting all day again lol

 

[DeLux]

Well to be fair, you guys did post something that's fairly polarizing. Even though it shouldn't be polarizing (I think you guys are taking the right direction), it's pretty revolutionary in terms of the community.

When the splitting talk dies down, I'll be championing coaching/stalling arguments again soon enough

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I can't say I disagree with you but something needed to be done. And thanks

And you may have plenty of time to get your arguments together...lol This isn't going to a one day argument. <_<

EDIT: Hylian, I should just make a new thread instead. That was the old thread and all the dumb posts that were made in it are gone.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Every thread is ded.
Cummon ICs!
I invented a desync, check the desync guide.

 

[DeLux]

It's not new

 

[Mr. game and watch]

It's kinda new.
Its not listed, but I figured it was known.

 

[DeLux]

It's not kinda new

 

[Sieguest]

That desync thread is major outdated. EA knows.

 

[DeLux]

I figured out a non soft turn tripless CG for heavies

P Fthrow > Nana Regrab > Nana Buffer Bthrow > Popo Standing regrab with no turn > Repeat

 

[Sieguest]

More than just heavies bro...

 

[ch33s3]

I figured out a non soft turn tripless CG for heavies

I've been doing this for a while using P Dthrow, just sayin' <3. There's even been videos of me doing it. I learned it because it's damn close to a universal CG timing. Good to tell people to do it though. I use it to generate space a lot, or get away from grenades.

 

[DeLux]

Cheese, it doesn't move anywhere though :\


How does it generate space from nades?

 

[ch33s3]

Cheese, it doesn't move anywhere though :\


How does it generate space from nades?

Rather than standing still do a reverse dash pivot grab. It makes it "trippable", but it's better than getting blown up and is the easiest "grenade avoider" I know of.

You can manipulate the spacing on it really easily, Nana's bthrow seems to be very generous in its spacing window.

 

[Smoom77]

Cheese loses to Yoshi

 

[Mr. game and watch]

I lose to yoshi.
Polts a beast.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

So does lain.


I looked at G&W's desync he created.














































lol

 

[Smoom77]

-is only one tO beat yoshi-

 

[Roller]

I've been saying Yoshi is broken for quite a while now..

 

[Smoom77]

But he isn't.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Yoshi is dumb. lol.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Do you see how big his nose is? How can we beat him if he is stealing all of our air?

 

[Reyney]

hey guys i need some pocket tips for my pocket ICs vs marth!
i have to play vs mr.r in pools tomorrow and i feel very uncomfortable with snake vs marth...
i think its more possible to get 3 grabs than to win with snake vs him..
so what to keep in mind vs marth?

 

[DeLux]

I'm bad at the Marth Matchup. Sorry I can't help you

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Lux says that about every character.

 

[Reyney]

damn i need some tips asap
every little hint u have at the top of your head is really apprecheated..
like what to do if he retreats fairs, pressures me with fairs..
how i can get around certrain moves. what i should look for to get grabs..

 

[ch33s3]

Hylian, team with me at SiiS. :-D

 

[Hylian]

Hylian, team with me at SiiS. :-D

I'm not going. All the other SiiS's were horribly TO'ed and I really don't want to go to another, neither does anyone that went with me last time. It's a bad experience.

 

[kackamee]

ICs aren't #1 yet?
Guess I gotta come back.

 

[ch33s3]

I'm not going. All the other SiiS's were horribly TO'ed and I really don't want to go to another, neither does anyone that went with me last time. It's a bad experience.

Sadness. More money for me, but sadness.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

ICs aren't #1 yet?
Guess I gotta come back.

I don't know who this dude is, but I luv him.
Hamtaro rocks.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

T.T I....I killed chat D:
I'm so sorry! Please, don't give me life!

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Shield early, don't try to powershield anything as long as nana is alive. If nana is separated...good luck getting her back.

Just play very patient. I wouldn't recommend desyncing that much, just walk and stuff. You will be able to grab landing fairs on your shield (Assuming he is in your grab range) because he is hitting 2 shields. He won't be able to up-b

 

[Hylian]

Running spotdodge while at low % is pretty good against marth unlike most other characters. If he dancing blades it's really easy to DI behind him with the momentum and get a free grab, if he does an attack you get a free grab unless he reads the spotdodge and you are at high %.

Don't spam it obviously.

Blizzard walling with retreating blizzards is a pain for marth, when he tries to beat it with fair if nana is blizzarding you can DSG it.

You can get a lot of easy damage from uairs, punish his full hops. If he's just SH fairing then let him wall and approach slowly, or if you trust your timing you can run in and PS the fair and it will get you a grab(it won't hit nana if you PS out of a dash rather than defensively).

Dtilt is good for edgeguarding as well as desynched IB's. When you are recovering look at his position on stage. If he's right by the edge then you should try to either sweetspot the edge with squall(hard) or go over him and DI into the stage when he hits you. If you are in killing % and under the stage just Belay. If he's farish away just belay.

When you hit marth with squall make sure to mash so that you rise as you are hitting him. This way if he's trying to DI out and dolphin slash(he will) he won't be able to.


Just some quick tips for you.

 

[Reyney]

thanks a lot for the tips guys it really helped me.
i will report how it went after the tourney on sunday.
keep your fiingers crossed for me xD

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Practice your cg timing on Marth on training mode for a couple days now, and maybe against lvl 9 CPUs to put some pressure on you so you'll be ready to not finally land a grab and drop the cg first try:/

see, noobs can give tips too, even though i'm sure he's already doing that.
A tips a tip.

 

[Roller]

Slightly better to practice in vs mode than training mode. Moves don't stale in training mode. Unless you have the code that causes them to do so.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

And, like I said, CPUs can put pressure on you.
But don't actually fight the CPU, you might get used to predicting the wrong metagame, and then playing the wrong MU.