Thank god. He seriously needed those cooldown nerfs.
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Smite - Battleground of the Gods!
- Thread starter Hylian
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If anyone has an extra key and wants some kevinm companionship they should hook a brobro up
Vyke
Smash Champion
We're getting another Ranged AD soon. Or at least, HiRez said they wanted to get one out soon.
Lovage
Smash Hero
hylian asked how i build sobek
after a few more games tonight i figured IT OUT
start CC boots + 1-2 pots
early game goals: finish CC boots, finish perma-stacking mag power thingy, and pick up yourvoid stone. get those 3 and you're rollin
i usually fill out my build with the eye of whatever that makes your spells slow, the sunfire cape thing, and for summoner spells i take the aoe exhaust thing.
hes pretty sick
max the aoe heal first, and then max the knockback
also, of course, once you get going, start taking all the important jungle camps especially CDR and blue, and of course gonk mid over and over
after a few more games tonight i figured IT OUT
start CC boots + 1-2 pots
early game goals: finish CC boots, finish perma-stacking mag power thingy, and pick up yourvoid stone. get those 3 and you're rollin
i usually fill out my build with the eye of whatever that makes your spells slow, the sunfire cape thing, and for summoner spells i take the aoe exhaust thing.
hes pretty sick
max the aoe heal first, and then max the knockback
also, of course, once you get going, start taking all the important jungle camps especially CDR and blue, and of course gonk mid over and over
I build him pretty different.
First of all, get stone of gaia. It's the best item on sobek by FAR. Health regen is insane in this game because how long you can juke people in the jungle.
I change up my build a lot depending on how fed I am, how much damage my team has, and what gods the enemies have.
My standard opening is Reinforced boots2 and 1 or 2 health pots. First back I get stone of gaia level1 and then 3-5 mana pots. I get level 2 SoG and then level 3 bots followed by level 3 SoG. After that if I'm fed I go straight for either gem of isolation or rod of tahuti depening on how much CC my team has. If I'm not fed I go for mark of whatever(the sunfirecape).
I sometimes build polynomicon(it's really good with his passive).
I went 11-0-7 my last game going:
RBoots
SoG
Gem of Isolation
Polynomicon
I used to always go boots into warlock sash but that really only works if you are mid otherwise you can't get enough farm to make it useful quick enough.
For skill leveling you should grab 1 then 2 then 3 and then max your spinning strike first(It has the best scaling and does the most damage of all his moves) and then max your fling and then the aoe healing debuff(unless you are playing against hel you shouldn't max the healing first because SoG will practically make you invincible so you don't really need it.)
Geenareeno
Smash Lord
Yo, everyone should add me, Geenareeno. I bought He Bo, gonna get Odin soon, most likely. Would love to play with some people and possible get some premades rolling. ****ing Agni is overpowered. I guess I'll discuss my He Bo build atm. Start boots of the magi + Meditation (the mana ability) + pot. Get the Sash that stacks health/mana and mag power along with finishing boots. Then Shard and Rod. He does so much damage because passive and good ratios and bases. Just gotta land the skills.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
If you're not getting reinforced boots you're doing it wrong. They are so freaking op, warrior tabi and magi boots are by far the weakest boots ATM.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
My zeus build is the following:
Reinforce Boots 2 + 3 health pots
Warlock Sash (if dominating and you're farming well) or void stone if you're losing/even
Then from there I usually pick up sprint (for escape/chasing) or beads depending on there team make up.
From there I go Isolation gem? (rylai item) for more life and ap.
Then I usually start making the death cap item.
Sash + Isolation gem makes Zeus really beefy and with reinforce boots he becomes a tanky caster. If zeus can cast 2 execution in a team fight, you most likely won that scrimmage lol.
Reinforce Boots 2 + 3 health pots
Warlock Sash (if dominating and you're farming well) or void stone if you're losing/even
Then from there I usually pick up sprint (for escape/chasing) or beads depending on there team make up.
From there I go Isolation gem? (rylai item) for more life and ap.
Then I usually start making the death cap item.
Sash + Isolation gem makes Zeus really beefy and with reinforce boots he becomes a tanky caster. If zeus can cast 2 execution in a team fight, you most likely won that scrimmage lol.
And I assume you level 3/e first?
Edit: Also, holy **** Zeus auto attack is insanely good. Hebo has the worst ranged auto attack so going from that to zeus's is like O.O. Seems like polynomicon would be really good on him for a late item.
Edit: Also, holy **** Zeus auto attack is insanely good. Hebo has the worst ranged auto attack so going from that to zeus's is like O.O. Seems like polynomicon would be really good on him for a late item.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
I prefer to level q but it's my preference. If you have no problem landing auto attacks on them then you should probably level E first.
put me on the main thing
level 22 - oGsTheWoK
if you aren't complete garbage feel free to add me and skype with me so we can win easy duo queues :]
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hylian played some really good Artemis mid as he bo, couldn't do anything so tower hugged until level 8ish
basically last hitting until she made a mistake, she made 1 mistake. blew her up. won the lane
he bo is really strong, but agni is better ._. i'm deff solo queuing more with he bo though, hes so insanely strong, he would be flavor of the month of agni wasn't so ********.
level 22 - oGsTheWoK
if you aren't complete garbage feel free to add me and skype with me so we can win easy duo queues :]
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hylian played some really good Artemis mid as he bo, couldn't do anything so tower hugged until level 8ish
basically last hitting until she made a mistake, she made 1 mistake. blew her up. won the lane
he bo is really strong, but agni is better ._. i'm deff solo queuing more with he bo though, hes so insanely strong, he would be flavor of the month of agni wasn't so ********.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Get out of here David, artemis mid is awful. Her lack of escape and her inability to clear waves as fast as most magic casters automatically put her at a disadvantage. She loses horribly to Ao, agni and ra.
Hi guys I have a key :D
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Yeah!! Kevinm!!!!!!!!
Yeah but you have to get close to her as He Bo so it can be difficult. You have to catch her moving forward with a water spout to get your full combo off without being destroyed early game. In general He Bo isn't very good in a lot of match-ups early but absolutely dominates mid-late game because of his scaling.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
I don't play hebo so I wouldn't know lol.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
LF1m for smite hit me up.
Andy, why are reinforced boots nessesary on Zeus? I understand and agree that they are the best boots, and I use them on practically everyone, but Zeus is holywtfbbq****ing **** hard to kill regardless when played right it seems like >_>. Get beads and then be fast and immune to slows it's ******** lmao. I've carried every single game I've played with him so far using a different build every time. I've just been going magi boots recently just for the extra damage and mana, because it doesn't seem like I need to be any tankier after gem of isolation even. I'm probably just playing against bads every game though lol.
Also, I see why you max Q first. I messed around with different orders and it feels by far the best, and I love it to farm warlocks sash up quickly. CDR is also ammaazinggg on him from what I can tell.
Also, I see why you max Q first. I messed around with different orders and it feels by far the best, and I love it to farm warlocks sash up quickly. CDR is also ammaazinggg on him from what I can tell.
zeus can't escape, even with beads and speed up hes extremely fragile, if you are out of position once thats a dead zeus imo.
boots of mana are ok depends though if you are in a kill lane or banking on doing damage mid then you want them, but if you want sustain and to survive to mid game you want reinforce (imo)
also boots of reinforce are in their own tier atm especially when early game is all about how long you can stay in lane and control jungle buffs, usually first one to back is prolly going to lose their lane against a confident lane.
by what i saw at least
Vyke
Smash Champion
considering it's a beta where 3/4 the people you play have no idea what they're doing most of the time and the other 1/4 actually looking for bugs or giving their input on the game to developers?
you will probably continue to body *****es.
you will probably continue to body *****es.
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Deleted member
Guest
what level are you? Lvl1-5 you play in "beginner" queue where is everyone is pure garbage. I'm 10 or 11 now and people still do stupid stuff (aside from AFKing and such), but it does get better. sort of
Vyke
Smash Champion
Matchmaking is completely random from what I've seen. I've been watching some level 30 guys and they were matched with TeeVee (like level 9 at the time), LOL
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Yeah me and allied caught Sooner (the currently #1 ranked person) and jinir(top agni) in back to back games. So yeah match making is kinda ******** since I'm not even level 15 atm.
Fragger
Smash Journeyman
There is hidden ELO, i saw a stream with a Hi-rez dev(Hi-rez Chris) and joked about someones ELO/rating compared to his. Then a bunch of people asked on stream and he said it was hidden, obv.
Vyke
Smash Champion
You can use any mobility move out of Hades ult, and use Purification Beads if you really need to.
I think the only thing Hades really needs to be as good as the other tanks is a wee bit of damage on his 2, the Silence/Fear.
Jem.
Smash Master
Hopefully in the retail game they don't use a hidden elo system. That'll be way booty.
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Deleted member
Guest
why? it's what LoL uses for normal matches to keep the games "fair", and it works well there
Jem.
Smash Master
That's true I guess. But technically a ranked queue isn't confirmed yet, but it is closed beta. It should be assumed though, they would be idiots to not have a ranked queue for teams. Hopefully they have a ranked solo queue, I be playin' at those nocturnal hours.
smite tier list after playing 200 games vs the top players in this game and having experience in all roles.
my opinion but a pretty good one
S. Agni
A. Odin, Vamana, He Bo, Sobek, Artemis, Ra,
B. Kali, Ymir, Wukong, Guan Yu, Hades, Arachne, Anubis, Bastet
C. Zeus, Ao Kuang, Hel
Smite Closed Beta 0.1.954.0
Explaination
S. Agni is clearly on top right now, being the best solo mid, having the most control, insane stun and aoe firepower, best farmer, a lot of mobility and litterally a zero mana cost ult that does insane damage, no other mage can compete atm and hes a must have that was overlooked when guan yu was blatantly overpowered. He has also absurd range which makes him hit the farthest atm.
A Tier
. Vamana and Odin are the best tanks atm, they both have really well rounded kits and i feel are perfectly balanced,
He bo is the 2nd best mage and would be best if agni didn't have such a dominant early game, he bo litterally has the BEST scaling in the game but his major problem is he absolutely blows early game where agni can dominate at level 1, He has a hard time against hard pushers i feel so i think his best role is going to be put in jungle or the side lane.
Sobek has some of the best chasing tools in the game and in a game where chasing and engagements happen all the time, sobek in the right hands makes plays happen, hes insanely tank and insanely strong atm.
Art is the ONLY ranged ad atm which already makes her by default top tier but on top of that her moveset is absolutely insane, she does crazy fast damage, at higher levels can solo fire giant and gold, she has an insane easy combo (Boar -> Trap -> Attack speed -> Burst -> Volley for the finish), she also is most likely the easiest to pick up due to lack of skillshots, shes better off in the side lane because she actually doesn't do to well in mid compared to mages like ra, agni etc
Ra is 3rd best mage atm, Hes also the most well rounded, prolly the hardest character to pick up atm because of such a wierd way to play him, hes one of the best pushers considering he can knock a wave of minions out in 1 skillshot and heal his own minions, he can aoe blind, aoe slow, he has an insane ult and with the proper team he really shines however atm agni is too dominate and is always the bigger pick so i expect him to stay behind the scenes for a little bit. Due to the fact he is a ap that relys a TON on his skillshot burst damage he almost always has to go mid and i think hes the only mage that can successful at least deal with agni mid.
B tier
Kali being burst melee dps, having insane lifestyle, a really solid jungler, and her ult makes her unccable however she has no utility which is her only downside, shes all about burst and kill, other characters have more to offer atm but shes still a really awesome top pick, as more gods gets released though i could see her dropping more. She also has insane damage late game.
Ymir has some of the best utility in the game, ability to control space, and an amazing ult which does insane aoe damage, however he drops off in late game damage wise and late game beads, aegis nullify his stun/slow really limiting him, early game is where he truly shines and mid game engagements is where he dominates but past that he starts to drop hard.
Wukong has the best initiation ult in the game, making people go in a frenzied state, running around randomly, its good and bad but followed with the rest of the team its a great opener to let the team get in to do damage, he is a AD champ just like kali with a little more utility than her but less damage i feel, he can drop really quick in team fights if not careful, he does his a jump which enables him to get in and out really nicely and one of the best perks with him is hes the FASTEST jungler which is pretty awesome.
Even after the nerf Guan yu is EASILY the best support tank, he went from being undeniable broken to still being a force to reckon with, his tool kit is absolutely amazing each one of his moves is insane, he has some of the best mobility in the game, best dps in the game (notice i didn't say damage i said dps which is damage per second) with his 3 move and his ult is a aoe slience, slow and stun initiation move for teamfights, ganks, etc. his damage however is where he lacks, he has insanely low damage however he still does a pretty decent amount. I feel hes best played a support for healing and controlling space and dps when he can.
Hades is really good, however he just does no damage thats his major fault but has one of the best ults in the game its a aoe damage ult that sucks in whoever is caught and keeps them trapped in it while he does insane damage, he also has a fear, slience etc but i feel the fact that he does fairly low damage is what really holds him back compared to the other tanks, he also has insanely good mobility just like guan yu.
Spider is really good but she falls off really hard late game in team fight situation, shes the best and safest jungler atm, her spider cocones do the jungler for her while she takes no damage, her ult is a pull (think blitzcrank or spiderman) which is amazing if used correctly for ganks, but she has a relatively useless passive that doesn't mean much late game, her spider cocones don't do anything mid-late game for attacking, her aoe slow is really good at controlling space but thats about it, and her latch on while really good early game because its good for ganking/stealing life becomes unusable late game because if used the person she latched on to can just bring her back to the teammates and she will get burned down quick. Her moveset just expires by late game i feel
Anubis is insanely good however i feel hes this low because of a couple of problems, hes just a pubstomp character, a lot of people feel hes one of the top 3 mages atm because of his insane burst dps and he has an insane damage combo, however the flaws with him are
-he has no utility / escape besides his aoe slow which doesn't slow that much so if caught in a bad position he CANNOT get away making him a prime target
-insanely cool down dependant character, inbetween cooldowns he is USELESS
-beads and aegis absolutely NULLIFY his entire moveset, he snared and ulted you? beads -> aegis and you can kill him after his ult is down because he has no cooldowns now.
The theme i've seen to kill anubis is either try to kill him inbetween cooldown, burst him down or rush beads / aegis after you finish your boots and he becomes unviable i feel.
soloqueue though i feel hes insanely strong because randoms will not know how to deal with him yet but i feel as time rolls on people will catch on to his bull****.
Bastet has the same problem as spider but her major problem is, some of her moves are absolutely useless, she has pretty decent damage over time moves, shes really good at escaping, shes a pretty decent jungler, her ult however is absolutely useless and does almost no damage or offer anything in a team fight besides extra dps maybe on a tower, i feel as a pure ad god like kali or wukong she doesn't offer much dps or utility making her not really that good.
C Tier
Zeus is really good i feel but compared to the other mages and the way the game is with mobility and cc, i feel he just gets hard countered by everyone, his most damging move is his ult which can easily be walked out of. he has to rely on his auto attacks to do his lightening damage to people, he has almost NO way of escaping if caught out of position considering he just has a speed buff on himself (which doesn't mean much if he gets slowed) so he suffers the same problem as anubis, other than that hes ALL burst damage / aoe damage but he needs the right conditions to do all of his damage making him the most team dependent god in the game i feel. Not to mention he can't even go solo mid, zeus is a side lane only mage because he can't compete with the other mages mid. on the side lane without the proper side lane support he can also get very easily ganked / denied making him just a pain to use. You need the right conditions and team communication to use him and even then hes still REALLY hard to use. Hes best paired with odin in a side lane because odin can ult and zeus can ult inside odin ult for easy kill combo.
Ao Kuange is the worst mage atm, he doesn't offer much dps, he has a movement speed buff that doesn't really work, his aoe spell doesn't do damage immediately just applies a weak DoT like baset which really is only good for controlling space / clearing minions, his ult is very easily dodgable because its super slow compared to Ra ult. overall i feel his damage isn't compareable to the other mages, he doesn't offer much to a teamfight and isn't that strong or scary unless fed.
Hel is the worst right now because shes a support however she doesn't heal too well, she doesn't do much damage and she doesn't have an ult because its used to change stances, i feel shes really skill dependant to use which isn't bad but its really tough to use her properly and even if used properly she doesn't put out much. She is actually really good at holding a 2v1 lane considering she can knock out creeps in 1-2 blasts with little mana cost, she has a cleanse which i feel is under utlitized but i haven't seen it used well enough to merrit a higher spot in the tier list. I just feel overall shes the weakest by far with not much to offer ever since they nerfed her because she was apparently OP.
my opinion but a pretty good one
S. Agni
A. Odin, Vamana, He Bo, Sobek, Artemis, Ra,
B. Kali, Ymir, Wukong, Guan Yu, Hades, Arachne, Anubis, Bastet
C. Zeus, Ao Kuang, Hel
Smite Closed Beta 0.1.954.0
Explaination
S. Agni is clearly on top right now, being the best solo mid, having the most control, insane stun and aoe firepower, best farmer, a lot of mobility and litterally a zero mana cost ult that does insane damage, no other mage can compete atm and hes a must have that was overlooked when guan yu was blatantly overpowered. He has also absurd range which makes him hit the farthest atm.
A Tier
. Vamana and Odin are the best tanks atm, they both have really well rounded kits and i feel are perfectly balanced,
He bo is the 2nd best mage and would be best if agni didn't have such a dominant early game, he bo litterally has the BEST scaling in the game but his major problem is he absolutely blows early game where agni can dominate at level 1, He has a hard time against hard pushers i feel so i think his best role is going to be put in jungle or the side lane.
Sobek has some of the best chasing tools in the game and in a game where chasing and engagements happen all the time, sobek in the right hands makes plays happen, hes insanely tank and insanely strong atm.
Art is the ONLY ranged ad atm which already makes her by default top tier but on top of that her moveset is absolutely insane, she does crazy fast damage, at higher levels can solo fire giant and gold, she has an insane easy combo (Boar -> Trap -> Attack speed -> Burst -> Volley for the finish), she also is most likely the easiest to pick up due to lack of skillshots, shes better off in the side lane because she actually doesn't do to well in mid compared to mages like ra, agni etc
Ra is 3rd best mage atm, Hes also the most well rounded, prolly the hardest character to pick up atm because of such a wierd way to play him, hes one of the best pushers considering he can knock a wave of minions out in 1 skillshot and heal his own minions, he can aoe blind, aoe slow, he has an insane ult and with the proper team he really shines however atm agni is too dominate and is always the bigger pick so i expect him to stay behind the scenes for a little bit. Due to the fact he is a ap that relys a TON on his skillshot burst damage he almost always has to go mid and i think hes the only mage that can successful at least deal with agni mid.
B tier
Kali being burst melee dps, having insane lifestyle, a really solid jungler, and her ult makes her unccable however she has no utility which is her only downside, shes all about burst and kill, other characters have more to offer atm but shes still a really awesome top pick, as more gods gets released though i could see her dropping more. She also has insane damage late game.
Ymir has some of the best utility in the game, ability to control space, and an amazing ult which does insane aoe damage, however he drops off in late game damage wise and late game beads, aegis nullify his stun/slow really limiting him, early game is where he truly shines and mid game engagements is where he dominates but past that he starts to drop hard.
Wukong has the best initiation ult in the game, making people go in a frenzied state, running around randomly, its good and bad but followed with the rest of the team its a great opener to let the team get in to do damage, he is a AD champ just like kali with a little more utility than her but less damage i feel, he can drop really quick in team fights if not careful, he does his a jump which enables him to get in and out really nicely and one of the best perks with him is hes the FASTEST jungler which is pretty awesome.
Even after the nerf Guan yu is EASILY the best support tank, he went from being undeniable broken to still being a force to reckon with, his tool kit is absolutely amazing each one of his moves is insane, he has some of the best mobility in the game, best dps in the game (notice i didn't say damage i said dps which is damage per second) with his 3 move and his ult is a aoe slience, slow and stun initiation move for teamfights, ganks, etc. his damage however is where he lacks, he has insanely low damage however he still does a pretty decent amount. I feel hes best played a support for healing and controlling space and dps when he can.
Hades is really good, however he just does no damage thats his major fault but has one of the best ults in the game its a aoe damage ult that sucks in whoever is caught and keeps them trapped in it while he does insane damage, he also has a fear, slience etc but i feel the fact that he does fairly low damage is what really holds him back compared to the other tanks
, he also has insanely good mobility just like guan yu.Spider is really good but she falls off really hard late game in team fight situation, shes the best and safest jungler atm, her spider cocones do the jungler for her while she takes no damage, her ult is a pull (think blitzcrank or spiderman) which is amazing if used correctly for ganks, but she has a relatively useless passive that doesn't mean much late game, her spider cocones don't do anything mid-late game for attacking, her aoe slow is really good at controlling space but thats about it, and her latch on while really good early game because its good for ganking/stealing life becomes unusable late game because if used the person she latched on to can just bring her back to the teammates and she will get burned down quick. Her moveset just expires by late game i feel
Anubis is insanely good however i feel hes this low because of a couple of problems, hes just a pubstomp character, a lot of people feel hes one of the top 3 mages atm because of his insane burst dps and he has an insane damage combo, however the flaws with him are
-he has no utility / escape besides his aoe slow which doesn't slow that much so if caught in a bad position he CANNOT get away making him a prime target
-insanely cool down dependant character, inbetween cooldowns he is USELESS
-beads and aegis absolutely NULLIFY his entire moveset, he snared and ulted you? beads -> aegis and you can kill him after his ult is down because he has no cooldowns now.
The theme i've seen to kill anubis is either try to kill him inbetween cooldown, burst him down or rush beads / aegis after you finish your boots and he becomes unviable i feel.
soloqueue though i feel hes insanely strong because randoms will not know how to deal with him yet but i feel as time rolls on people will catch on to his bull****.
Bastet has the same problem as spider but her major problem is, some of her moves are absolutely useless, she has pretty decent damage over time moves, shes really good at escaping, shes a pretty decent jungler, her ult however is absolutely useless and does almost no damage or offer anything in a team fight besides extra dps maybe on a tower, i feel as a pure ad god like kali or wukong she doesn't offer much dps or utility making her not really that good.
C Tier
Zeus is really good i feel but compared to the other mages and the way the game is with mobility and cc, i feel he just gets hard countered by everyone, his most damging move is his ult which can easily be walked out of. he has to rely on his auto attacks to do his lightening damage to people, he has almost NO way of escaping if caught out of position considering he just has a speed buff on himself (which doesn't mean much if he gets slowed) so he suffers the same problem as anubis, other than that hes ALL burst damage / aoe damage but he needs the right conditions to do all of his damage making him the most team dependent god in the game i feel. Not to mention he can't even go solo mid, zeus is a side lane only mage because he can't compete with the other mages mid. on the side lane without the proper side lane support he can also get very easily ganked / denied making him just a pain to use. You need the right conditions and team communication to use him and even then hes still REALLY hard to use. Hes best paired with odin in a side lane because odin can ult and zeus can ult inside odin ult for easy kill combo.
Ao Kuange is the worst mage atm, he doesn't offer much dps, he has a movement speed buff that doesn't really work, his aoe spell doesn't do damage immediately just applies a weak DoT like baset which really is only good for controlling space / clearing minions, his ult is very easily dodgable because its super slow compared to Ra ult. overall i feel his damage isn't compareable to the other mages, he doesn't offer much to a teamfight and isn't that strong or scary unless fed.
Hel is the worst right now because shes a support however she doesn't heal too well, she doesn't do much damage and she doesn't have an ult because its used to change stances, i feel shes really skill dependant to use which isn't bad but its really tough to use her properly and even if used properly she doesn't put out much. She is actually really good at holding a 2v1 lane considering she can knock out creeps in 1-2 blasts with little mana cost, she has a cleanse which i feel is under utlitized but i haven't seen it used well enough to merrit a higher spot in the tier list. I just feel overall shes the weakest by far with not much to offer ever since they nerfed her because she was apparently OP.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Zeus mid counters agni dead serious. If they try to walk through minions just eat the puny fire damage and get 3 auto attack and execute him.
Who am I kidding.. agni mid is so good atm.
Who am I kidding.. agni mid is so good atm.
I'm 13-0 with Zeus currently and the most I've died in one game is 3 times >_> lol. I think he's easy to play and very good at escaping. You said slows suck for him but he's immune to slows with his shield. All you have to do is stick him in a lane with anyone with CC and then once he hits 5 kills just start coming in if they land their CC. Teamfights are really easy you just lay your ult down, and then chunk your q and AA'a into it. Just laying your ult down at the right time will win teamfights because you can either get massive damage or make the other team very out of position.
No way he's in the bottom tier :/.
No way he's in the bottom tier :/.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
I think allied said that since he relies on his auto attack too much and his lack of CC hinders his versatility in team comps. Team comps are forced to revolve around him. His lack of escape spell is a big hinder to him but I don't think he's bottom tier but compared to ra/hebo and agni he's very lack luster.
solo queue doesn't really count, i'm like 100000 - 2 with vamana but i'm mostly basing this off what i've seen in 5v5 gameplay with little on solo queue, teams need to work with zeus while other mages can just be picked and they work on their own.
zeus can get slowed before the shield and then you just pounce in, even with speed bonus hes NOT getting away, guarenteed. not to mention the plethora of CC other characters have, early game he gets countered by everyone and in a game of moving around and mobility zeus is not going to be able to get his ult in a spot where everyone is landing unless his team MAKES that happen.
i just feel zeus isn't that good