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This is still going on eh?
Anyone doing the rostering? Would really like to switchout what I have above.

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I cut Ganondorf for his more than 3 times more recurring form GANON.
I cut Toon Link for the Zelda character I said I would add, the unique SKULL KID. (would have replaced him with Vaati if I didn't already have him)
I cut Kanto Trainer (Red) for the trainer from the new remakes, HOENN CONFIRMED TRAINER (May)
Which means Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle have been replaced by Blaziken, Grovyle, and Mudkip.
I replaced Lucario with the newer, darker ZOROARK.
I added GRENINJA as he's the most popular Gen 6 Pokemon
I replaced Jigglypuff with the much more popular fairy type GARDEVOIR (I was hoping to add my favorite Pokemon soon, seems like my best chance)
I replaced Ike with the 6 times more recurring ANNA.
I replaced all of the veteran retros. They're only important because they've been in Smash. They're much more expendable than most characters. So I needed new retros... and while CAPTAIN RAINBOW's not really retro, I associate him with retro characters, so I know he doesn't count as 1, but I already have a good amount of retros. I started a Captain Rainbow line too. Inside it, I added HIKARI + DONBE. Donbe is not in the icon because I prefer Hikari's Captain Rainbow artwork.

This roster was fun :)
Hmm... I'd argue the older IPs can be more important than some of the newer ones, considering they paved way, and there were fewer of them.
Without a doubt game and watch is more important than half of these; people dont seem to be recognizing the fact that he had a huge series of games, they directly inspired many others, had been made into other various incarnations, they were an entire system, AND that he was the preceding mascot to Mario.
Yet people cut him over excess Starfox reps, or Fzero, or... many others.

C'mon people; history!
 

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This is still going on eh?
Anyone doing the rostering? Would really like to switchout what I have above.



Hmm... I'd argue the older IPs can be more important than some of the newer ones, considering they paved way, and there were fewer of them.
Without a doubt game and watch is more important than half of these; people dont seem to be recognizing the fact that he had a huge series of games, they directly inspired many others, had been made into other various incarnations, they were an entire system, AND that he was the preceding mascot to Mario.
Yet people cut him over excess Starfox reps, or Fzero, or... many others.

C'mon people; history!
I was going to add my favorite historical rep, Daitoryo... but I didn't think that would go too well for me.
Game & Watch is an easy cut because he wasn't a requested character. So in a round with 10 veteran cuts, he had to go.
Since there are so many good retro picks, I didn't have to think twice about those 3, but I will add them back when I get the chance.
 

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I'm sorry, but can someone please make my roster for me? I had it decided almost immediately but I can't upload it for some reason. Thanks in advance.

Here it is:

Row one: Mario, DK, Link, Samus + ZSS, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Marth, Pit, Little Mac, Mr. Game & Watch
Row two: Luigi, Diddy, Zelda + Sheik, Ridley, King Dedede, Falco, Charizard, Anna, Palutena, Starfy, Takamaru
Row three: Peach, King K. Rool, Ganon, Captain Falcon, Meta Knight, Krystal, Meowth, Chrom, Wii Fit Trainer, Dillon, Balloon Fighter
Row four: Bowser, Dixie, Skull Kid, Black Shadow, Villager, Ness, Mewtwo, Isaac, Andy, Saki, Mach Rider
Row five: Toad, Yoshi, Vaati, Wario, Olimar, Porky, Zoroark, Shulk, Chibi-Robo, Ray, Lip

Changes:

Ganondorf -> Ganon: An easy way to keep Ganon on the roster.
Toon Link -> Skull Kid: I prefer Tetra, but it would have felt weird if I had her and not Toon Link.
Wolf -> Krystal: Felt like one of the spacies could easily be swapped out with Krystal temporarily.
Lucas -> Porky: Several others have actually done this, so...
Jigglypuff -> Meowth: Meowth's more prominent in the anime than Jigglypuff. I only added her first because I wanted to have most of the veterans early-ish. (and I'm now kind of glad I took that route, it would have made this round even tougher than it already was if I didn't)
Lucario -> Zoroark: I absolutely hated cutting Lucario, but he felt more expendable than Mewtwo.
Ike -> Anna: Thought it might be a good idea to bring in someone who's not a sword-using lord with blue hair.
Sonic -> Ray: Third party status made Sonic easily expendable.
Ice Climbers > Takamaru: Felt like I could shake up the retros a bit. I don't care for Takamaru, but he's one of the more notable retros.
R.O.B. -> Balloon Fighter: Same as above.

Others that were on the chopping block: Falco, Mewtwo, Mr. Game & Watch, Wii Fit Trainer (would have been cut if the confirmed SSB4 newcomers counted as veterans)

EDIT: On second thought G&W feels like he's more important of a retro than Ice Climbers so I'm dropping them instead.
 
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this is a very friendly group in this thread
 
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Here you go Smasher.
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Here you go Duke.
 
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Sorry for the double post, but I'd like to replace Chrom by Anna. She is a better choice in my opinion.
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Thank you to both @Tepig2000 and @ SunnyDust SunnyDust

AHHHH CHORUS KIDS ARENT ON HERE!!!!
I dont want anyone having to keep on doing this for me though

The good news is that.....!
I just deleted and reinstalled roster maker. I think it should work. I will do it tomorrow morning if the game is still going, obviously dont hold it for me.
If it starts, just use the roster from sunnydust without ice climbers. They were my main in melee but if you get on and update the thread before me I will take it as a sign i should have kept marth and wonder red instead. either way is fine.

Having only 22 veterans now makes this very difficult for me.
I think if I make it to making a roster I may keep both Marth and Ice Climbers, and cut mewtwo for MegaMewtwo. But.. then he would have to switch forms because gamefreak had to give two megas to two pokemon. Yay... ugh. Maybe its best this round is ending. I didnt have Jiggly, Sheik,or ZSS separately, and did not have lucas or some other guy in yet, so its hurting me now. At least I added falco last round.
 
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I cut Ganondorf for his more than 3 times more recurring form GANON.
I cut Toon Link for the Zelda character I said I would add, the unique SKULL KID. (would have replaced him with Vaati if I didn't already have him)
I cut Kanto Trainer (Red) for the trainer from the new remakes, HOENN CONFIRMED TRAINER (May)
Which means Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle have been replaced by Blaziken, Grovyle, and Mudkip.
I replaced Lucario with the newer, darker ZOROARK.
I added GRENINJA as he's the most popular Gen 6 Pokemon
I replaced Jigglypuff with the much more popular fairy type GARDEVOIR (I was hoping to add my favorite Pokemon soon, seems like my best chance)
I replaced Ike with the 6 times more recurring ANNA.
I replaced all of the veteran retros. They're only important because they've been in Smash. They're much more expendable than most characters. So I needed new retros... and while CAPTAIN RAINBOW's not really retro, I associate him with retro characters, so I know he doesn't count as 1, but I already have a good amount of retros. I started a Captain Rainbow line too. Inside it, I added HIKARI + DONBE. Donbe is not in the icon because I prefer Hikari's Captain Rainbow artwork.

This roster was fun :)
WOOT! Donbe and Hikari!
 

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Well, all the rosters are in. I've decided who I'm voting for, and I hope to survive. Good luck to all, this round was a difficult one.
 

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Final Edition: thanks again everyone

 
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so. . . time for it to begin?


you all came a while,
were out half of the players now,
you all have had it ruff,
especially with this rounds challenge,
more than the edges around an defendants face

but its not over yet,
and the challenge hasn't reached it point,
the road is going to require the fallen,
and only the strong will drink it up,

It may felt like its been awhile,
but it has only begun,
time to put on your vests contestants,
this time around an bet is only as good when your life is the ante.​
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@ andimidna andimidna
@Angelglory
@ Chase Chase
@ The Light Music Club The Light Music Club
@The_Sheik
@ Smasher 101 Smasher 101
@ SunnyDust SunnyDust
@ pupNapoleon pupNapoleon
@kylexv
@TheZombiePig
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Chase -

The Light Music Club-

TheZombiePig -

The_sheik -

Angelglory -

kylexv -

SunnyDust -

DukeNapoleon -

Andiminda -

Smasher 101 -

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Click here to vote

the voting will end some time on Saturday
(I don't have an specific time)
till then, I'll be waiting
 
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Voted for DukeNapoleon for a multitude of reasons.
  1. Ninten and Porky but not Ness - Let me explain why this doesn't work. Ness and Porky are the hero and villain from the same game. Ninten is in no way related to Porky, while Ness is very related to Porky. Having Porky and not Ness is a strange phenomenon to say the least.
  2. Sceptile and Greninja, but not Charizard - Charizard is the most iconic starter Pokémon; case closed. Not having him there with two other starters, who are much less iconic, is strange to me.
  3. Mega Mewtwo Y - Okay, this choice speaks for itself. It is a temporary transformation which is much less iconic. And finally, the biggest reason...
  4. Inconvenience - Yes, having the Roster Maker not work is understandable. But the game will go much faster if everyone makes their own roster. Duke does not do this. It's more convenient for everyone to make their own roster. This was a reason I've considered him every round, and now he has enough bad choices to finally justify voting for him.
Sorry, Duke. But my vote is for you.
 

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Duke because Ness is gone but he still has Porkey. He also downsized Starfox to two. Also is one of the many that have Vaati, but no Toon Link.

Why am I continued to be voted for?
 
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Duke because Ness is gone but he still has Porkey. He also downsized Starfox to two. Also is one of the many that have Vaati, but no Toon Link.

Why am I continued to be voted for?
I considered you this round for Waddle Dee and not Meta Knight, but I forgave you because of this round's circumstances. Also maybe because of Ashley, as two Wario characters may have been viewed as too much at this point.
 

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Hmm.... I wont start bashing other peoples' choices (in big part because I think many made the same risks... well, that isnt a thought, it is evident in the rosters)

But I do want to point out I got my roster maker to work!
 
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Hmm.... I wont start bashing other peoples' choices (in big part because I think many made the same risks... well, that isnt a thought, it is evident in the rosters)

But I do want to point out I got my roster maker to work!
Apologies, Duke, I did not mean to sound harsh. :urg: I'm far too honest for my own good...

Anyways, good luck to all.
 

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Well, as this round is looking risky for me, I may as well verbalize my voting theories despite my last post:
(though it would be helpful to also see who was cut this round from each roster). I'll be editing every few people as this moves quickly early on. I'll add up the sum of things I dislike for each at the end and vote accordingly

Chase: Donkey Kong with as many reps as Zelda is a bit perturbing to me. Four pokemon all from gen one, and overall not very diverse to me. Dark Matter without MetaKnight just looks too out of place. Alph is not a proper rep for Pikmin, as Olimar is in two of the tree games, including the starting one, and I believe mentioned in the third as well. No game and watch, Nintendo' first icon and the launch to their video gaming.

Light Music: Ghirahim (sp). Undeserving of a spot, there are a few recurring Zelda characters, and he has not proven to be any more than the flavor of the week. Waddle Dee with no Metaknight (Bandana, yeah yeah). Pokemon dont look iconic enough. Ashley. And Kid Icarus with three- certain series are just poorly represented, and others are over represented. Was not a fan of your disposable retro theory. No game and watch

Zombie Pig: Alph. Waddle Dee without Meta Knight.

The Sheik: Sonic staying in... though Im not sure if you added him this round or not. Alph. Ghirahim. Many choices that just barely say 'Nintendo' or even, barely, recognizable to me (obscure without enough that arnt. No game and watch.

Angelglory; Alph. Cutting others over Falco. The non gen 1 pokemon dont seem important enough.

Kyle: Putting game and watch as less important by cutting him. He is the original mascot and begat Nintendo Video Games. Six pokemon reps. Four are gen one, the other two are quasi superfluous. Alph.

SunnyDust. Alph. Pokemon selection is not terrible, but still doesnt seem to represent the series to me; though I should have myself take your cue and had Blaziken and Greninja, hoping for time to add in charizard later. Ultimately though, I read that as the same deficiency. No game and watch.

Andimidna: keeping people like Falco over game and watch.....FOUR pokemon from gen three. And none of the most iconic starters included. Very obscure characters overall that represent individual franchises. The pokemon thing is the biggest crime

Smasher 101: Four out of five pokemon are gen one. Otherwise I think you did the best job.


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Deciding between bolded, which have just some intense mistakes to me.

Though overall I find it rather indignant to have had so many cut Game and Watch, and so many to add Alph as if he makes any sense instead of Olimar (he is not even the star of his game... just adding 'pikmin' would have made more sense')
 
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Duke because Ness is gone but he still has Porkey. He also downsized Starfox to two. Also is one of the many that have Vaati, but no Toon Link.

Why am I continued to be voted for?
well you only have one vote and that came form me,
I mainly voted for you because
you have three starfox characters, fox Krystal and falco, no wolf, no villain and a personal favorite of mine
you added the hoenn trainer, one which I find practically pointless,
having skull kid and ghirahim, ghirahim I have no problems with but skull kid irks me, even if I know you couldn't remove him because of this round, but having ghirahim added while still having him in there still irks me a bit
missing the Kirby trio, cutting meta knight for bandana dee (despite how much I love him and is my most wanted newcomer) is a big red flag
duke was close with no Charizard and missing ness,
but he kept the Kirby trio in track, that enough put him in my favor,
yours was just the worst pick for my tastes, that's it
Oh. By the way @ LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf I love the song you picked for this round. That soundtrack is blessed.
ah thanks, gotta love gyakuten meets orchestra, this is defiantly one of my favorite picks out of it
 
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well you only have one vote and that came form me,
I mainly voted for you because
you have three starfox characters, fox Krystal and falco, no wolf, no villain and a personal favorite of mine
you added the hoenn trainer, one which I find practically pointless,
having skull kid and ghirahim, ghirahim I have no problems with but skull kid irks me, even if I know you couldn't remove him because of this round, but having ghirahim added while still having him in there still irks me a bit
missing the Kirby trio, cutting meta knight for bandana dee (despite how much I love him and is my most wanted newcomer) is a big red flag
ike gone with anna in, I would think this far in fire embelm should have 3 slots, since you didn't you couldn't add one in, but cutting ike felt like a bad move for me,
duke was close with no Charizard and missing ness,
but he kept the Kirby trio in track, that enough put him in my favor,
yours was just the worst pick for my tastes, that's it

ah thanks, gotta love gyakuten meets orchestra, this is defiantly one of my favorite picks out of it
Ok I see. Just wanted you to know though, I have three Fire Emblem slots, Marth, Anna, and Robin. It was also very hard for me to chose Falco over Wolf, it's just Falco was a main of mine in Melee and Brawl.

I even considered cutting Diddy Kong in favor of Donkey Kong Jr.

Banking on a huge round of additions next time. I have a boat load of characters I want to add, as well as a few new guys I would like to cut.
 
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I mean... Id have kept charizard if trainer didnt go. As he wasnt the face, i'm banking on being able to add him in should I return.
 

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Ok I see. Just wanted you to know though, I have three Fire Emblem slots, Marth, Anna, and Robin. It was also very hard for me to chose Falco over Wolf, it's just Falco was a main of mine in Melee and Brawl.

I even considered cutting Diddy Kong in favor of Donkey Kong Jr.

Banking on a huge round of additions next time. I have a boat load of characters I want to add, as well as a few new guys I would like to cut.
. . . I actually didn't see robin there. . . whoops, that cancels that one out, oh well doesn't matter much
I understand, but wolf is to date my most played character in brawl, (fox is my in 64 and melee) we all have attachments to charcters, I vote mine accordingly even if it goes against yours.
. . . that would have been a major big flag. . . major big flag
 

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. . . I actually didn't see robin there. . . whoops, that cancels that one out, oh well doesn't matter much
I understand, but wolf is to date my most played character in brawl, (fox is my in 64 and melee) we all have attachments to charcters, I vote mine accordingly even if it goes against yours.
. . . that would have been a major big flag. . . major big flag
Yeah I get it hahaha.

@ pupNapoleon pupNapoleon I question the fact that you think my Pokemon aren't that iconic considering you have Sceptile (less iconic than Blaziken) and you just now cut Meowth. The rest I guess I can understand. But that Pokemon part bothered me, considering you have Sceptile AND Greninja when I have Blaziken, Meowth, and Charizard. Two of which had major roles in the anime, and one of which was considered a fan favorite at his time and still is today.
 

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Dark Matter over Meta Knight was very odd. I think people shouldn't have messed with the Kirby characters.
And Alph over Olimar really makes no sense. Olimar is the recurring character of every Pikmin game. Whereas Alph just shared the spotlight of the 3rd.
And I'm not so sure about that Mario selection, and Rhythm Team.

So I was almost sure I was voting for Chase, but that new roster DukeNapoleon posted makes me question that.

Man, Mega Mewtwo Y really stands out as an odd choice. It's mostly good, but the Pokemon and Earthbound picks seem off.

If others saw some of these rosters, they'd be able to tell you exactly what the round was. Some made it pretty obvious they were replacing characters, and things seemed out of place. (And I'll admit me having Krystal, Hoenn Trainer, and Ganon appears this way too, but it's justifiable, especially Ganon)

I understand surprises on regular rounds, but on challenges, it seems right to create the best you can make with what you have.
But, in case someone was going to accuse me of being safe, I did add Gardevoir, but that's only 1 character.

I'm still deciding between these 2.
 
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Yeah I get it hahaha.

@ pupNapoleon pupNapoleon I question the fact that you think my Pokemon aren't that iconic considering you have Sceptile (less iconic than Blaziken) and you just now cut Meowth. The rest I guess I can understand. But that Pokemon part bothered me, considering you have Sceptile AND Greninja when I have Blaziken, Meowth, and Charizard. Two of which had major roles in the anime, and one of which was considered a fan favorite at his time and still is today.
I didnt cut meowth.
We can start the questioning game if you want.

I acknowledge the hole charizard left, but I rather felt it was the only hole in my roster, with a nearly inherent 'he is coming' attached. I think it is strange to have hoenn trainer without pokemon trainer, that really would just make her 'pokemon trainer,' which couldnt be included because it is a veteran, which to me, makes it cheap.
There is not much represented in your pokemon; zoroark, who is basically just a weak substitute for Lucario (and I dont think substitutes should have been added unless they offered something new to the roster, which you could say the gen does, but I think that is a cop out). I just think the latter three choices are allsub par, rather than even one feeling iconic. None of the current gen, A LOT of Hoenn (this as a trainer makes little sense to me; first gen trainer, or a mixed trainer, or none at all. It just seems to point out that it isnt the trainer we want.)

I guess that is it: I may have one missing on my roster, but all of yours seem like the leftover choices to cover for the ones you had to cut, sub par. Even Meowth to a lesser extent.

It isnt any one character, it is how they all are TOGETHER. This roster too.


And I guess people view mega mewtwo as a mistake: it was hard with fewer vets than... I think everyone else. I may have gotten lost in the hype this mewtwo caused when revealed, the more psychic version of the psychic legendary.
I'm confused about why my Earthbound seems off: Ness is only in one game, and Ninten started it off (which is why we have people like Marth, he was the first). This game is all about people meeting, so a rep for one and a rep for the other two. Plus Ness was based on Ninten. Maybe I'm analyzing a bit to much, I actually think it makes more sense in general.
 
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Ive gotta say, if I somehow get through this round, which seems incredibly unlikely at this time unless I get a ton of friends to join this site (or make them here...), then I think @ LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf should throw me a bone and really not allow the cut characters to be added back in. I think I played way too much on that assumption

...I cant believe having four hoenn characters is less of an issue than not having charizard yet....especially as that is inherently having Greninja and Blaziken without Charizard, which multiple people did..

am I the only one confused by this?
 
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Ive gotta say, if I somehow get through this round, which seems incredibly unlikely at this time unless I get a ton of friends to join this site (or make them here...), then I think @ LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf wolf should throw me a bone and really not allow the cut characters to be added back in. I think I played way too much on that assumption

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I didnt cut meowth.
We can start the questioning game if you want.

I acknowledge the hole charizard left, but I rather felt it was the only hole in my roster, with a nearly inherent 'he is coming' attached. I think it is strange to have hoenn trainer without pokemon trainer, that really would just make her 'pokemon trainer,' which couldnt be included because it is a veteran, which to me, makes it cheap.
There is not much represented in your pokemon; zoroark, who is basically just a weak substitute for Lucario (and I dont think substitutes should have been added unless they offered something new to the roster, which you could say the gen does, but I think that is a cop out). I just think the latter three choices are allsub par, rather than even one feeling iconic. None of the current gen, A LOT of Hoenn (this as a trainer makes little sense to me; first gen trainer, or a mixed trainer, or none at all. It just seems to point out that it isnt the trainer we want.)

I guess that is it: I may have one missing on my roster, but all of yours seem like the leftover choices to cover for the ones you had to cut, sub par. Even Meowth to a lesser extent.

It isnt any one character, it is how they all are TOGETHER. This roster too.


And I guess people view mega mewtwo as a mistake: it was hard with fewer vets than... I think everyone else. I may have gotten lost in the hype this mewtwo caused when revealed, the more psychic version of the psychic legendary.
I'm confused about why my Earthbound seems off: Ness is only in one game, and Ninten started it off (which is why we have people like Marth, he was the first). This game is all about people meeting, so a rep for one and a rep for the other two. Plus Ness was based on Ninten. Maybe I'm analyzing a bit to much, I actually think it makes more sense in general.
Wait a sec, you actually have Zoroark. And who cares if I don't have a 6th gen character? By the time that the Wii U version of SSB4 comes out, the 3rd gen remakes will already be out. It might actually make more sense to have them then a 6th gen character. And what are you really supposed to do in this round but replace other characters? That was the whole point of this wasn't it? You replaced Ness with the very less popular Ninten which makes your roster stand out the most of all. Even over the ones who replaced Olimar with Alph. Why? Because many people worldwide will know who Alph is. Not many people at all will know who Ninten is. You say my Pokemon choices are subpar and leftover. But you actually have the SAME one in Zoroark, picked the less popular character in Sceptile, and no one was even expecting Greninja, you just have him in there because Sakurai put him in the new game.

Also I don't know why you call me out on removing retro's when some people also removed more than just Game and Watch.

...I cant believe having four hoenn characters is less of an issue than not having charizard yet....
Having Hoenn characters and Charizard is much better than having the no name Sceptile (less popular than fan-faves in Blaziken and Grovyle (out of Stage 2 starter Pokemon) and internet craze Mudkip) and having the unexpected Greninja over Charizard.
 
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One, I find you to be getting rather disrespectful. You asked for my opinion and I gave it. Ness is only more iconic because of Smash. Ninten looks enough like Ness, and is the prototype OF Ness, that if showed, I bet most people worldwide wouldnt know the difference.
Olimar is the protagonist of Pikmin. Alph is 1/3 of a single games main hero.
I did not add Zoroark this round.
And I never had Meowth cut from my roster.

This is actually becoming slander on your end.

I'm not sure you read my pokemon statement that you quoted, or if so, didnt even bother to look at the rosters I was referring to.
The Hoenn thing I just flat out disagree with. If Blaziken were included over Charizard, that is worse to me. It implies either that one will be in and the other not, and Blaziken is not the choice. Or, it can be taken with the liberty that cuts had to be made this round.

Yes, they did. So if you are going to give everyone else that benefit, then do the same for me! I tried to add characters to not half fill the void of those we took out, I added characters that added something new to the roster, and in most cases, still left it balanced!
I dont think the point of the round was to 'recover,' but rather, shake it up and make it more interesting while still maintaining balance.

If you are going to respond to this, please check your facts first when referring to my own roster, as many things youve said about it have been quite untrue. Again, slander. And while you are entitled to give your opinion, please differentiate it from fact. You specifically asked for mine, and then got angry when I gave it!
 
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note: the smiley is me trying to lighten the mood, which is what this post was for. this is getting a bit heated for an internet game. I'm not trying to hurt anyones feelings.... though a general rule of thumb for that is to also see if what you are saying to others may do so to ones self.
 
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One, I find you to be getting rather disrespectful. You asked for my opinion and I gave it. Ness is only more iconic because of Smash. Ninten looks enough like Ness, and is the prototype OF Ness, that if showed, I bet most people worldwide wouldnt know the difference.
Olimar is the protagonist of Pikmin. Alph is 1/3 of a single games main hero.
I did not add Zoroark this round.
And I never had Meowth cut from my roster.

This is actually becoming slander on your end.

I'm not sure you read my pokemon statement that you quoted, or if so, didnt even bother to look at the rosters I was referring to.
The Hoenn thing I just flat out disagree with. If Blaziken were included over Charizard, that is worse to me. It implies either that one will be in and the other not, and Blaziken is not the choice. Or, it can be taken with the liberty that cuts had to be made this round.

Yes, they did. So if you are going to give everyone else that benefit, then do the same for me! I tried to add characters to not half fill the void of those we took out, I added characters that added something new to the roster, and in most cases, still left it balanced!
I dont think the point of the round was to 'recover,' but rather, shake it up and make it more interesting while still maintaining balance.

If you are going to respond to this, please check your facts first when referring to my own roster, as many things youve said about it have been quite untrue. Again, slander. And while you are entitled to give your opinion, please differentiate it from fact. You specifically asked for mine, and then got angry when I gave it!

I'm not trying to be rude, and I apologize if I came out that way. I looked at the rest of the roster's that cut Charizard, and all of them kept Ness. Porkey without Ness is way too strange in my opinion and that is what sets you farther apart from the rest. Having no Ness is like having Vaati and no Toon Link, and you were one of the few that did that.

And I don't care if you didn't add Zoroark this round. You have him.You calling him a bad pick, is calling a character on your own roster bad. Do you have Lucario? I don't think so. And you had Meowth as part of Zoroark as you wanted him represented since at the point you must have found him to be important enough. I don't get why when I add him on his own, as Chase did (in the first round) I get slack for it.
 
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I'm not trying to be rude, and I apologize if I came out that way. I looked at the rest of the roster's that cut Charizard, and all of them kept Ness. Porkey without Ness is way too strange in my opinion and that is what sets you farther apart from the rest. Having no Ness is like having Vaati and no Toon Link, and you were one of the few that did that.

And I DONT CARE if you didn't add Zoroark this round. You have him! You calling him a bad pick, is calling a character on your own roster bad. Do you have Lucario? I don't think so. And you had Meowth as part of Zoroark as you wanted him represented since at the point you must have found him to be important enough. I don't get why when I add him on his own, as Chase did (in the first round) I get slack for it.
Guys. Please calm down, this is an internet game.

Continuing, I'm surprised how well some of my stranger choices (Dry Bowser and Rhythm Team) are going. Guess you can't really predict people, huh?

EDIT: Speaking of strange choices, I wonder what coffee-related metaphor we will get for our theme next round. It would be cool to have a theme for characters only introduced before/since 2000.
 
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I'm not trying to be rude, and I apologize if I came out that way. I looked at the rest of the roster's that cut Charizard, and all of them kept Ness. Porkey without Ness is way too strange in my opinion and that is what sets you farther apart from the rest. Having no Ness is like having Vaati and no Toon Link, and you were one of the few that did that.

And I don't care if you didn't add Zoroark this round. You have him.You calling him a bad pick, is calling a character on your own roster bad. Do you have Lucario? I don't think so. And you had Meowth as part of Zoroark as you wanted him represented since at the point you must have found him to be important enough. I don't get why when I add him on his own, as Chase did (in the first round) I get slack for it.
Everyone has some missing stuff.... like how you are missing Metaknight, as just one example. Tis the nature of the round. Link is Link, Vaati fights LINK. Toon link =/= young link. This really makes little sense, but I accept it is just your personal preference.
Anyway, you've got my vote, in part for the excessive hypocrisy, but looking at my points above it was between you & andimidna

Edit: at least im only tied in last.... glad I am a part of a few smash communities to invite here
 
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