SmashBoards Roster Evolution (11-1, break)

[pupNapoleon]

I can't help but feel as if the Zoroark think counts as a Jigglypuff cut because it's not really Jigglypuff...

That may have been a fair point if were stated two days ago when I originally posted it, But I dont think it is as the roster is already done

Also, it fights and moves as her in the air

 

[The Light Music Club]

That may have been a fair point if were stated two days ago when I originally posted it, But I dont think it is as the roster is already done

Also, it fights and moves as her in the air

I guess. See the difference from that vs like adding Shiek to Zelda or Charizard to Pokemon Trainer, is that the actual character is still there. But Jigglypuff isn't actually jigglypuff. No matter. As long as @ LoneKonWolf thinks it's fine.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

as long as it has 55 slots and reasonable transformations/duos it counts as a good roster.
though I do find it patching just so you can add extra characters to an limited roster (though 55 isn't really limited)
nevertheless i'll let it slide as so long the other voters don't have a problem with it, and if they do they can just vote you out because of it, it'll work it self out

 

[SmasherMaster]

Changed my roster.

I readded Sheik and Zero Suit Samus.

Added: Rosalina, Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Greninja, Vaati, Dixie Kong, Dillon, Marshall, Andy
Honerable Mentions: Wrestler, Karate Joe, Bandana Dee, Krystal, Samurai Goroh, Ashley, Mona, Sukapon, Duck Hunt Dog, Dark Samus, Giovanni

 

[andimidna]

Ok, I'm here now. Just wanted to add a post to let you know that now, because my post may be long depending on how much detail I give in my description.
I was planning something a bit longer than usual, but I'm not going to write an essay

 

[mahnamahna]

My Dream Roster: 60 characters

Cuts (3) -
Ivysaur
Squirtle
Toon Link


Zero Suit Samus remains a second form of Samus

Veterans:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Yoshi
6. Wario
7. Donkey Kong
8. Diddy Kong
9. Link (Toon Link as a costume)
10. Zelda (Tetra as a costume)
11. Sheik
12. Ganondorf
13. Pikachu
14. Jigglypuff
15. Mewtwo
16. Lucario
17. Kirby
18. King Dedede
19. Meta Knight
20. Fox
21. Falco
22. Wolf
23. Pit
24. Samus
25. Olimar
26. Marth
27. Ike
28. Roy
29. R.O.B.
30. Mr. Game and Watch
31. Ice Climbers
32. Sonic
33. Captain Falcon
34. Ness
35. Lucas

Newcomers:

1. Rosalina and Luma
2. Petey Piranha
3. King K. Rool
4. Dixie Kong
5. Vaati
6. Ghiralham
7. Greninja
8. Jessie and James (Pokemon Trainer replacement) - uses 2nd, 3rd and 5th gen Pokemon
9. Krystal
10. Pauleta
11. Ridley
12. Lyn
13. Little Mac
14. Takamara
15. Mach Rider
16. Wii Fit Trainer
17. Villager
18. Mr. Resetti
19. Shulk
20. Issac
21. Chibi-Robo
22. Tails
23. Pac-Man
24. Megaman
25. Master Hand/Tabuu

Keep in mind that it is a pipe dream

 

[Chase]

My Dream Roster: 60 characters

Cuts (3) -
Ivysaur
Squirtle
Toon Link


Zero Suit Samus remains a second form of Samus

Veterans:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Yoshi
6. Wario
7. Donkey Kong
8. Diddy Kong
9. Link (Toon Link as a costume)
10. Zelda (Tetra as a costume)
11. Sheik
12. Ganondorf
13. Pikachu
14. Jigglypuff
15. Mewtwo
16. Lucario
17. Kirby
18. King Dedede
19. Meta Knight
20. Fox
21. Falco
22. Wolf
23. Pit
24. Samus
25. Olimar
26. Marth
27. Ike
28. Roy
29. R.O.B.
30. Mr. Game and Watch
31. Ice Climbers
32. Sonic
33. Captain Falcon
34. Ness
35. Lucas

Newcomers:

1. Rosalina and Luma
2. Petey Piranha
3. King K. Rool
4. Dixie Kong
5. Vaati
6. Ghiralham
7. Greninja
8. Jessie and James (Pokemon Trainer replacement) - uses 2nd, 3rd and 5th gen Pokemon
9. Krystal
10. Pauleta
11. Ridley
12. Lyn
13. Little Mac
14. Takamara
15. Mach Rider
16. Wii Fit Trainer
17. Villager
18. Mr. Resetti
19. Shulk
20. Issac
21. Chibi-Robo
22. Tails
23. Pac-Man
24. Megaman
25. Master Hand/Tabuu

Keep in mind that it is a pipe dream

I think you are in the wrong thread, my friend. Roster Prediction Display Thread would be the place for you.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Ok, I'm here now. Just wanted to add a post to let you know that now, because my post may be long depending on how much detail I give in my description.
I was planning something a bit longer than usual, but I'm not going to write an essay

Bro it'd better be worth the wait (As in a third Kid Icarus rep)

 

[andimidna]

Bro it'd better be worth the wait (As in a third Kid Icarus rep)

Yes, that was the character I was worried about. But it's there. I got your back

The roster will most likely be edited onto this post in about... 10 minutes.

Ok, here it is. No, it's not something special. That's not why posting it got pushed back. That was just... eh, my business. :3

Alright, y'know how I said I was only removing Toad and Skull Kid for one round, and that I would add them back now?
Well, I've ben particularly interested in Vaati lately, and while his games weren't as big, his roles were bigger in those games. They're both villains that have been in 3 games, both pretty popular. But Vaati has actually been the final boss twice, which it seemed like Skull Kid was going to be in Majora's Mask but.... he wasn't. So I think Vaati is a bit more important, both are plenty unique. I'll definitely add Skull Kid back later, but now that I'm too afraid to remove Toon Link due to him having a good amount of fans here, I'll expand on his games. So, that's why I have him instead, if anybody is wondering.
Also, I have posted a roster icon in the roster maker thread, and while it got 3 likes, it wasn't made.
The concept was Red or Blue with Charizard, Sceptile, and Greninja. And since it didn't happen, I'm keeping Red with Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard. I mean, as long as Charizard is here it's good, right?
I doubt anything like that would make or break a roster, I just wanted to bring that up too because, like returning Skull Kid, I said I was going to do it this round a while ago.

Now to analyze the newcomers:

Toad- Yea, you guys know how iconic he is. I don't really have to explain him, but I wanted the 3d world cast, and I got it, and that makes me happy, so... yea:
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So that was another reason for him, but I probably didn't need one.

Vaati- He was the final boss of Minish Cap and Four Swords, and was the main villain of Four Sword Adventures, but ended up being Ganon's puppet, so, not the final boss. Well... y'know how many characters have been the final boss of multiple games in the Zelda series other than Ganon/dorf and Vaati? NONE.
So... he's pretty important, and I'd like to see what they use for his moveset. After 3 boss fights and even more encounters, the diversity of possibilities for a character rises. And I'd say he has some interesting moves.

Dixie Kong- I don't think this one needs much explanation. From what I remember, you guys told me DK is the 4th most important Nintendo series. So I represented it the 4th most, no more, no less. And it wasn't just representation, the character herself has become very iconic, she's been in old games, new games, and she's had her own games. She's a big deal. Definitely the 4th of the series, right after K Rool. And I love her character. I found Diddy and Dixie to be very lovable in Tropical Freeze with those adorable idle animations they had... awww...

Porky- Man, I sure wish this is who Sakurai went with in Brawl. He's one of the most unique choices. I wonder what they'd do with that mech.... hmmm....
Well, I sure don't know much about Earthbound/Mother, but I know enough to conclude that it should have 2 characters on a 55 character roster, I mean, I've expanded so many other series. I didn't want to go with Lucas yet though. I don't feel like I should add a clone just because Sakurai did it. Lucas isn't a recurring character, and sure, he's the main protagonist of his game, but we already have a main antagonist of a Mother game that does the same basic attacks. How about a RECURRING VILLAIN?... Ooo... That interest me a bit more, tbh. And I hope you guys think so too.
Don't get the impression that I don't like Lucas and I won't put him on my roster later, because, if I get a chance to, I will.
Not sure about 3 Mother characters on a 60 character rosters, but that sounds fine for a 65 one. Anyways, he's my pick.

And you know who's even more unique than Porky? My "surprise" choice of the round:
(But it shouldn't be too surprising, I mean, it makes a lot of sense...)
Medusa- We have Pit, the Link of the series, Palutena, the Zelda of the series, and now Medusa, the Ganon/dorf of the series. Yes, she's the main villain of Kid Icarus. Being the only recurring important one. I mean, is anybody going to argue I should have put Eggplant Wizard? Nah... I'd argue Medusa is an even MORE unique villain than Vaati and Porky. Just imagine turning opponents to stone as part of a moveset... wow.... pretty awesome. I've also seen a moveset for her that was almost completely based around her staff using tether-like affects... I think. There's a lot to work with. And to me, she'll always be the 3rd most important character of the series, and as much as I love Palutena (she's my most wanted Smash 4 newcomer)... I do think Medusa is slightly more unique than her. But both have a lot of diverse options and would make great characters. Viridi and Hades would too, but was hesitant to add them before I added who I consider the next major character of the series, Medusa. If Viridi and Hades had recurred like Medusa, I might have chosen them over her, but for now, just these 3, who all individually deserve it in my eyes. Plus, Smash is lacking females and villains and sideboobs! So you can help both out with a female villain! Yes!

Did I say 10 minutes? Well, I guess I meant 45 minutes. Oops. Wow, I sure can write a lot about so little.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Bump so @ LoneKonWolf knows andimidna is done.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

whelp just need @ pupNapoleon roster now.
any one currently got access to roster maker at the moment, its unavailable to me at the current momment

 

[Tepig2000]

whelp just need @ pupNapoleon roster now.
any one currently got access to roster maker at the moment, its unavailable to me at the current momment

I have access to it right now, what do you need?

 

[Chase]

I made it 3 hours ago, I thought Duke would post it:

 

[andimidna]

I made it 3 hours ago, I thought Duke would post it:

I wish I had those icons for Andy, Ray, Ridley, Paper Mario, Balloon Fighter, and Duck Hunt Dog...

I mean, good job on the roster, hopefully things can pick back up next week.

I'll try to put my roster here by at least the day before elimination starts next time... if I get a next time.
(pls love medusa and the power of sideboob, everybody)

 

[LoneKonWolf]

and so continues the elimination, no coating still, you'll get that next time.
still vote for the roster you want eliminated the person who has the most votes gets eliminated bla bla repeat repeat
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@ andimidna
@Angelglory
@ Chase
@ SmasherMaster
@ The Light Music Club
@The_Sheik
@ Smasher 101
@SunnyDust
@ pupNapoleon
@kylexv
@ TheZombiePig
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Chase-

The Light Music Club-

Kylexv-

TheZombiePig-

The_Sheik-

Smasher 101-

Angelglory-

Sunnydust -

SmasherMaster -

Andiminda -

DukeNapoleon -

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[andimidna]

*bites nails intensely*

Well, it looks like another tough pick for me.
Only in the first few rounds was I sure who I was going to vote for right away for 1 specific reason, but it's harder now :o

 

[Chase]

Voted for The Light Music Club. I don't think Kid Icarus deserves 3 reps while Donkey Kong still has 3, and if anyone should be the third KI rep, it's Medusa. Plus some really weird choices for characters at this point (cough Donbe and Hikari cough). You're a cool guy, just made bad choices this round. Andimidna I considered for a while, but the power of sideboob overtook me and I went with Light.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Looks like I'm going this week. I wanted to make the top ten. Oh well. Viridi was worth putting in. Too bad Micaiah and Ayumi won't see the smash field.

Voted the_shiek because 4 donkey kong and 4 kirby characters. Not to mention Bubbles "walks in" and Muddy Mole and Lip are the only retros.


I don't see on the same level as all of you. Donkey Kong doesn't need four reps, heck look how long it took for it to get to three.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Er... my roster is in my post on the last page. I edited it in at 630

 

[The Light Music Club]

Voted for The Light Music Club. I don't think Kid Icarus deserves 3 reps while Donkey Kong still has 3, and if anyone should be the third KI rep, it's Medusa. Plus some really weird choices for characters at this point (cough Donbe and Hikari cough). You're a cool guy, just made bad choices this round. Andimidna I considered for a while, but the power of sideboob overtook me and I went with Light.

I don't see why Donbe and Hikari were mentioned, they were added back in round three....

 

[pupNapoleon]

I like donbe and hikari

In fact any character that represents its own series is nearly fine in my book; I mean, not any, I'm not fond of captain rainbow for some reason, even though the game look fantastic.

Hope I make it to next round.

Also, to point out, I am not including transformation reps for the sake of it; in fact, I wasnt going to do any in this game. Then Sakurai announced such for the game and everyone decided that, so I no longer felt it as necessary. I don't think individual pokemon alone really represent the iconography of that series; there are so many pokemon games, and a lot to do in each and every one.

 

[andimidna]

Err... I don't know who I think I should vote for yet....

But I want to know the current results...

Must... make... up... mind....

 

[The Light Music Club]

If I'm eliminated you lose the only guy with Donbe and Hikari, Bowser Jr., Viridi and Skull Kid. Goodbye reasonable originality. Please make good choices kiddies.

 

[Chase]

I don't see why Donbe and Hikari were mentioned, they were added back in round three....

They were weird then and still a tad weird now. Bowser Jr. before Toad was pretty strange as well, but forgivable. Viridi, however, crossed my line and you are on my chopping block for that. No offense though, but someone has to go.

 

[The Light Music Club]

They were weird then and still a tad weird now. Bowser Jr. before Toad was pretty strange as well, but forgivable. Viridi, however, crossed my line and you are on my chopping block for that. No offense though, but someone has to go.

Toad can't fight, and Mario needs more than one bad guy. Made perfect sense to me. What's more crazy is that you have four Donkey Kong characters and only one Earthbound/Mother character.

Whatevs. If I go, I go.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Toad can't fight, and Mario needs more than one bad guy. Made perfect sense to me. What's more crazy is that you have four Donkey Kong characters and only one Earthbound/Mother character.

Whatevs. If I go, I go.

Let's not make more people angry with this claims of DK, Earthbound, and Toad

 

[Chase]

Toad can't fight, and Mario needs more than one bad guy. Made perfect sense to me. What's more crazy is that you have four Donkey Kong characters and only one Earthbound/Mother character.

Whatevs. If I go, I go.

I have two: Ness and Porky...

 

[The Light Music Club]

I have two: Ness and Porky...

Lol for a sec he was so dark I didn't see him.




Just like how I don't see Falco.

But then again I didn't vote for you, so I guess its ok.

 

[andimidna]

If I'm eliminated you lose the only guy with Donbe and Hikari, Bowser Jr., Viridi and Skull Kid. Goodbye reasonable originality. Please make good choices kiddies.

Toad can't fight, and Mario needs more than one bad guy. Made perfect sense to me. What's more crazy is that you have four Donkey Kong characters and only one Earthbound/Mother character.

Whatevs. If I go, I go.

It looks like you only have 1 vote... don't count yourself out yet

 

[The Light Music Club]

It looks like you only have 1 vote... don't count yourself out yet

I know, but I freak out easily, especially since this round I went really risky. I've noticed that the people who all have voted for me once have since then been eliminated. But it may be my imagination.

 

[TheZombiePig]

Voted for SmasherMaster. The representation of Greninja as a solo character while Charizard is a part of a trio does not sit right with me. And something about the selection of the miscellaneous selection seems off as well. It may be due to having both Captain Rainbow and Wonder Red. If the roster were a bit bigger, I'd have no problem with this, but with quite a few other series with more than one game not represented, it just seems a bit odd.

The rosters are all looking rather strong. Good luck peoples

 

[pupNapoleon]

I love that gif....

also, I feel similarly @thelightmusicclub, im not ready for my imagination to send me off. especially since now is when I can actually use it.
Though im a bit bummed I didnt stick to my gut and add in Krystal over Falco. that was pure fan service.

 

[Smasher 101]

My vote's between four rosters, all of which I feel have over-represented a certain series:

The Light Music Club: Kid Icarus
TheZombiePig: Fire Emblem
The_Sheik: Kirby
andimidna: Kid Icarus

By next round I think it'll be fine to have four Kirbys, so Sheik is safe. It was a pretty tough decision between the other three...but I ended up voting for TheZombiePig because I think DK, Kirby, and Star Fox should all get four characters before FE does.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Also, @thelightmusicclub, in terms of DK and four reps, it is the fourth highest grossing nintendo franchise.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Also, @thelightmusicclub, in terms of DK and four reps, it is the fourth highest grossing nintendo franchise.

When has that ever mattered? Earthbound was tied with them and Starfox had more in Brawl, and they were both dead franchises at that point.

 

[pupNapoleon]

When has that ever mattered? Earthbound was tied with them and Starfox had more in Brawl, and they were both dead franchises at that point.

We can play this game if you want.
Firstly, it mattered enough to give pokemon and mario more reps in every game than anyone else. Etc

Secondly, earlier you said toad isnt a fighter. Despite the fact that he fights in nearly half of the games he is in-- when has THAT ever mattered in a game? You said YOU dont think dk needs four reps- when ha that ever mattered?

Third, if popularity and sales dont matter to you... then what does? Doesn't that just make everyone arbitrary at that point, at which case, why do you argue any of the points or additions at all?

 

[Tepig2000]

Not to mention Bubbles "walks in" and Muddy Mole and Lip are the only retros.

Bubbles is a retro. And the only thing Bubbles does is walking.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Voted for SmasherMaster. The representation of Greninja as a solo character while Charizard is a part of a trio does not sit right with me. And something about the selection of the miscellaneous selection seems off as well. It may be due to having both Captain Rainbow and Wonder Red. If the roster were a bit bigger, I'd have no problem with this, but with quite a few other series with more than one game not represented, it just seems a bit odd.

The rosters are all looking rather strong. Good luck peoples

very well spoken, and it speaks for me

 

[Tepig2000]

It was between SmasherMaster and Duke.

SmasherMaster because of the reason stated above.

Duke because I think the Meowth and Jigglypuff transformations feel shoehorned in so people don't criticize the roster for the lack of Meowth and Jigglypuff.

In the end I voted for Duke.

 

[Chase]

Alright, I'm ready for next round. Hope it's themed, been getting a bit bored with all this leniency with which characters you can add.