Smashboards Creates: Super Smash Clash, An SSB Fangame

[Pupp135]

Welcome to the SSB Fangame creation thread, where we make our idea of a Super Smash Bros fangame. I got the idea for this thread based on Champion of Hyrule ’s SSB of Another Universe thread from a year or two ago in addition to the fangames Super Smash Flash 2 and Super Smash Bros Crusade.




This thread will work like other Smashboards Creates threads.

Roster

Spoiler: Roster 19/64

Pac-Man (Pac-Man) Alts: Ms. Pac-Man
Tony Hawk (Skateboarding) Moveset Alts: Throwback
Mario (Super Mario) Moveset Changes Alts: Wedding
Bowser (Super Mario) Moveset Changes Alts: King Koopa
Bomberman (Bomberman) Moveset Alts: Act Zero, Black Bomberman
Link (Legend of Zelda) Moveset Changes Alts: LttP (fuchsia hair), Dark Link, BotW
Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) Alts: Dragon Muscle
Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) Moveset Changes Alts: Gold (Super), Uekawa version, Knuckles Colors
Dr. Eggman/Robotnik (Sonic the Hedgehog) Moveset Alts: Original, Cartoon
Kirby (Kirby) Moveset Changes Alts: Cyan (Ice), Keeby (Yellow)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) Moveset Alts: Original
Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot) Will take Crusade’s moveset Alts: Biker, Low Poly,
Pikachu (Pokemon) Alts: Detective
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) Moveset Alts: SOLA Wetsuit
Master Chief (Halo)
Isaac (Golden Sun) SSF2 Moveset Alts: Dark Dawn Outfit
Sora (Kingdom Hearts) Alts: Timeless River, Roxas, Wisdom Form,
Hatsune Miku (Vocaloid) Moveset Alts: Andode Electronica,
Kratos (God of War) Alts: “Boy”,

Stages

Spoiler: Stages

Final Destination (Super Smash Bros)
Battlefield (Super Smash Bros)
Champion Maze (Pac-Man)
Downhill Jam (Tony Hawk)
Bowser’s Castle (8-4) (Super Mario)
Bomberman Arena (Bomberman)
Ganon’s Dungeon NES (Legend of Zelda)
Temple (Legend of Zelda)
Sky City Tokyo (Ninja Gaiden)
Casino Night Zone (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Cookie Country (Kirby)
Fountain of Dreams (Kirby)
The Pit (Mortal Kombat)
Warp Room(Crash Bandicoot)
Poke Floats 2 (Pokemon)
Tomb of Qualopec (Tomb Raider)
Smashville (Animal Crossing)
Valhalla (Halo)
Venus Lighthouse (Golden Sun)
Destiny Island (Kingdom Hearts)
Sound Garden (Vocaloid)
Wuhu Island (Wii)

Game Modes

Spoiler: Game Modes

Multiplayer (Eight player max)
Time/Stock/Stamina
Volleyball (Akanneia mod’s version)
King of the Hill

Single Player
Classic Mode (Melee Format)
All-Star Mode (Chonological)
Survival Mode
Mob Smash
Century Smash
3 Minute Smash
Cruel Smash
Rival Smash
Endless Smash
Minigames
Board the Platforms

Spoiler: Items 18/50

Smash Ball (Super Smash Bros)
Assist Trophy (Super Smash Bros)
Fire Flower (Super Mario)
Hammer (Super Mario)
Bomber Jet (Bomberman)
Heart Container (Legend of Zelda)
Medusa Head (Castlevania)
Chao (Sonic the Hedgehog)
BFG 9000 (Doom)
Warp Star (Kirby)
Mr. Saturn (Mother)
Aku Aku (Crash Bandicoot)
Soul Edge (Soul Caliber)
Pokeball (Pokemon)
Beehive (Animal Crossing)
Monkey Bomb (Call of Duty)
Peashooter (Plants vs. Zombies)
NES Zapper (Nintendo)

Spoiler: Pokeballs 12/40

Electrode
Golem
Snorlax
Togepi
Unknown
Deoxys
Glaceon
Zoroark
Zeraora
Toxtricity

Spoiler: Assist Trophies 9/36

PepsiMan (Pepsi)
Lakitu (Super Mario)
Moon (Majora’s Mask)
Senstor Armstrong (Metal Gear)
Momiji (Ninja Gaiden)
Knuckle Joe (Kirby)
Sindel (Mortal Kombat)
Arbiter (Halo)
Crewmate/Imposter/Amogus/Sussy(Among Us)

Spoiler: Music

Pac-Man: Buccaneer Beach

Mario Franchise Bowser’s Road (SM64) Castle Theme (SM64DS)

Bomberman: Area 1 Theme

Legend of Zelda: Boss Theme (LoZ NES)

Ninja Gaiden: Unbreakable Determination

Sonic the Hedgehog: Stardust Speedway (JP and US) Studiopolis Zone Act 2

Kirby: The Adventure Begins

Mortal Kombat: Techno Syndrome

Crash Bandicoot: N Sanity Beach (Crash 1)

Pokemon: Trainer Battle Theme (Red/Green/Blue)

Tomb Raider: T Rex

Kingdom Hearts: Hollow Bastion

Vocaloid: Senbonzakura

God of War: Kratos Unofficial Theme

Spoiler: Jobs

Job 1: Two characters
Job 2: New Mario, Sonic, and Kirby stages
Poll: FD and Battlefield variants
Job 3: Changes to Mario, Sonic, Kirby, and Pikachu
Job 4: Roster Size
Job 5: Two more “Newcomers”
Job 6: Crash Bandicoot and New Pokemon Stage
Job 7: Submit items
Discussion 1: How should assists (pokeballs/assist trophies) be handled?
Job 8: Crash, Bomberman, and Scorpion Movesets
Job 9: Game Title
Job 10: One Fighter playable in Ultimate
Job 11: Classic Mode Route
Job 12: Submit stages for Mortal Kombat, Bomberman, and Pac-Man
Job 13: Submit more items
Job 14: Number of items in the final proposal
Job 15: Submit a Pokeball/Assist
Job 16: Submit a character from a series without a fighter
Discussion 2: How should Final Smashes work?
Job 17: Submit two stages from past SSB games
Job 18: Submit an assist for a series with a playable fighter
Job 19: Submit a new Multiplayer Mode
Job 20: Submit an status inflicting item
Discussion 3: Maximum number of fighters per match
Job 21: Submit 2 fighters from franchises with a fighter
Job 22: Submit a new Legend of Zelda stage
Job 23: Submit a healing item
Job 24: Submit moveset for Eggman and changes for Link and Bowser
Job 25: Submit a Pokeball not in SSB/Assist Trophy in SSB
Job 26: Submit a newcomer from Nintendo
Job 27: Submit a moveset for Isaac and changes for Pac-Man
Job 28: Submit an item
Job 29: Submit a single player minigame
Job 30: Submit an assist trophy and a post Jhoto Pokemon
Job 31: Submit a Golden Sun stage
Discussion 4: Number of Pokeball Pokemon and Assists
Job 32: Submit a character who joined in Ultimate
Discussion 5: How should All-Star work?
Job 33: Submit moveset changes for Sora
Job 34: Submit a new Kingdom Hearts stage
Job 35: Submit an item for a series without one
Job 36: Submit a Pokemon from a generation without one.
Job 37: Submit an assist trophy for a franchise without one
Job 38: Submit two female fighters
Discussion 6: Create prompts for selecting our next fighters
Job 39: Submit Tomb Raider and Vocaloid Stages
Job 40: Submit Lara and Miku movesets
Job 41: Submit a Multiplayer Mode
Open Ended: Submit 3 alts for a fighter
Job 42: Submit an item in the SSB Series
Job 43: Submit a pokemon
Job 44: Submit an Assist Trophy in Ultimate
Job 45: Submit 2 characters not playable in Ultimate, SSF2, Crusade, Project +, and Smash Remix
Job 46: Submit Mob Smash Modes
Job 47: Submit Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief Movesets
Job 48: Submit Ninja Gaiden and Halo Stages
Job 49: Submit items
Poll: How should transformations be handled?
Job 50: Submit Pokemon from generations not represented
Job 51: Submit an Assist trophy from a series with a playable fighter
Job 52: Submit a non-video game character
Job 53: Submit a Single Player Mode
Job 54: Submit a Tony Hawk stage
Job 55: Submit a Tony Hawk moveset
Job 56: Submit an Item
Open Ended: Submit Music
Job 57: Submit a character who’s crossed over with one on the roster
Job 58: Submit a Mob Smash Mode
Discussion 7: Vote for the Link design that he should have
Job 59: Submit a past stage
Job 60: Submit a God of War Stage
Job 61: Submit a Kratos moveset
Job 62: Submit a pokemon
Job 63: Submit an assist trophy
Job 64: Submit an item
Job 65: Vote for which 2 SSB 64 fighters should join
Farther down the line:
Submit more past stages
2 more veterans from each game
Mob Smash
More single player/Multiplayer content
Music submissions

Job 1: Submit a Character (open ended) to add to the roster. By default, Mario, Kirby, and Sonic are available of the roster as the former two are SSB’s de facto mascots, and Sonic is the third party with the most presence.

I’ll nominate Link for this one, so we can get another inevitable veteran out of the way.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Job 1: Pikachu (Pokemon)

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Samus

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Samus Aran is main protagonist of Metroid series, made by Nintendo. She is a galactic bounty hunter that fights space pirates and other galactic threats.
I feel that she is one of most obvious choices for the game, considering that Metroid is one of Nintendo's popular series and it even got a game recently: Metroid dread.

 

[nirvanafan]

Crash

Thought we would kick things off with a big newcomer smash does not have.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Job 1:Bomberman

Bomberman is the eponymous protagonist from a video game series, he is a robot that lives in a planet called planet bomber

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

Job 1: Ness(Earthbound)

 

[Pupp135]

Before we start voting, I’ll give everyone one more day to nominate characters.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations
Pupp135 Link
Northsouthmap Pikachu
Tankman from Newgrounds Samus
nirvanafan Crash Bandicoot
DragonRobotKing26 Bomberman
Qwerty UIOP Ness

Vote for your three most wanted, where your submission is not first.

1. Pikachu
2. Bomberman
3. Ness

Job 2: Submit a new stage for the Mario, Sonic, and Kirby series, and describe their layout. Also, you can nominate the same stage but change its layout if you’d prefer.

For this one, I’ll with the what is most likely an inevitable stage of Bowser’s Castle. To give a somewhat original twist to the stage, I’ll have it based on its original form where fireballs bounce up from the lava, and there is a switch on the right side of the map that destroys the bridge (If you‘d prefer a different layout, please feel free to nominate that version instead).

I’ll nominate Chemical Plant Zone. I’m unsure if something like a SSB For Jungle Hijynx background/foreground could work, so the stage would have one main platform and three smaller ones at the same elevation where the positions of the blocks of the smaller ones rotate over time.

While this is a Sakurai made Kirby game, I think that City Trial could be a cool stage to have, where it plays similarly to Delfino Plaza or Port Town Areo Dive, and players can collect powerups throughout the level which only wear off if KO’ed.

I’m also adding a poll on top asking how FD and Battlefield should be handled.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

1. Pikachu
2. Samus
3. Crash

 

[Deleted member]

1. Crash
2. Bomberman
3. Link

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Pikachu
2. Bomberman
3. Crash

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

1. Crash
2. Pikachu
3. Link

 

[nirvanafan]

Link
Crash
Bomberman

Mario: Airship

Kirby: Cookie Country

Sonic: Death Egg Zone (Layout similar to PM Green Hill Zone)

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Crash
2. Bomberman
3. Link

Kirby stage: Mt. Dedede

 

[AlRex]

1. Crash
2. Pikachu
3. Bomberman

Mario Stage: Birabuto Kingdom (Super Mario Land)

This would be a Game Boy-ish stage with some Egyptian theming as well, taking various elements from the first few stages of Super Mario Land. Perhaps the middle part of this image, with some question blocks/bricks and some pyramids in the background, would make for the best stage layout here.

 

[Deleted member]

Casino Night Zone
A bright stage that takes place in front of a slyo machine. There's a middle section and two smaller sections to the sides with platforms. There's pinball bumpers that knock the fighters back.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Link 6
Pikachu 13
Samus 2
Crash Bandicoot 16
Bomberman 10
Ness 1

Pikachu and Crash are our first additions to the roster, with the latter being our first character who’s not playable in Ultimate.

I’ll give an extra day for Mario, Sonic, and Kirby stage nominations before voting.

Link
Crash
Bomberman

Mario: Airship

Zelda: Clock Town

Sonic: Death Egg Zone (Layout similar to PM Green Hill Zone)

Unfortunately, Clock Town is eligible for this job, but a Kirby stage is eligible for this job.

 

[nirvanafan]

Here are the votes

Link 6
Pikachu 13
Samus 2
Crash Bandicoot 16
Bomberman 10
Ness 1

Pikachu and Crash are our first additions to the roster, with the latter being our first character who’s not playable in Ultimate.

I’ll give an extra day for Mario, Sonic, and Kirby stage nominations before voting.



Unfortunately, Clock Town is eligible for this job, but a Kirby stage is eligible for this job.

My bad, got mixed up their for some reason, fixed

 

[Pupp135]

From our above poll, original variants of Final Destination and Battlefield will be used

Here are the stage nominations

Pupp135 Bowser’s Castle
nirvanafan Airship
AlRex Birabuto Kingdom

Pupp135 Chemical Plant Zone
nirvanafan Death Egg Zone
@Darkonedagger Casino Night Zone

Pupp135 City Trial
nirvanafan Cookie Country
Northsouthmap Mt. Dedede

Vote for your two favorite maps, where your’s is not first

1. Birabuto Kingdom
2. Bowser’s Castle

1. Death Egg Zone
2. Casino Night Zone

1. Cookie Country
2, City Trial

Job 3: Submit any moveset changes that you’d like to see for Mario, Sonic, Kirby, and/or Pikachu.
The only change I’ll nominate is Sonic having his side special changed to the SSF2 Light Dash.

Job 4: Choose a final number of playable fighters on our roster.
For this one, I’ll say 60 sounds good, which is slightly more than post-DLC SSBFor, and this is between the sizes of SSF2 (47 so far) and Crusade (70 with 3 so far in development).

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Bowser's Castle
2. Birabuto Kingdom

1. Casino Night Zone
2. Chemical Plant Zone

1. Cookie Country
2. Mount Dedede

 

[Deleted member]

1. Bowser's Castle
2. Birabuto Kingdom

1. Chemical Plant Zone
2. Casino Night Zone

1. Cookie Country
2. Mount Dedede

50 fighters

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Bowser's Castle
2. Birabuto Kingdom

1. Chemical Plant Zone
2. Death Egg Zone

1. Cookie Country
2. City Trial

Job 3: Mario side special replaced with Cappy.

Job 4:
56 fighters

 

[nirvanafan]

Bowser Castle
Airship

Casino Night
Death Egg

Mount Dedede
Cookie Country

I will nominate a 64 Fighter roster.

 

[AlRex]

1. Airship
2. Birabuto Kingdom

1. Casino Night Zone
2. Death Egg Zone

1. Mt. Dedede
2. Cookie Country

For Mario, I think Super Jump Punch should be moved to an Up Smash, give him the Dr. Mario stomp move in his aerials, new specials can be the FLUDD Nozzle Rocket as an Up B, which can shoot him upward in a direction angled by the controller, Cappy as a Side-B, where he throws the living hat, which can act as a long range grab, and Tanooki as a Down-B, which functions as a tail-themed Mario Tornado when tapped, but when held, allows him to become a statue, similar to Kirby's Down-B. Also Mega Mario as his Final Smash. You can choose to take or leave some of these elements.

Some Sonic changes, Light-Speed Dash as the Side-B is a good call. I also think sprinkling in some more Sonic Battle moves in his neutrals/aerials is a good idea, and maybe a mechanic with Shields, which can enhance certain attacks and, of course, aid in defense. Maybe accessible via taunting. Combine both of his Spin Dashes into one special variable on how you tap buttons, and also have Drop Dash somewhere.

Fangame-wise, I think for Kirby, we could go with the Crusade idea of him just using abilities from his series that are thematically similar to the character he sucked up, for ease of programming as more and more characters get added. IE: Fire for Mario, Spark for Pikachu, Wheel for Sonic.

Pikachu...I haven't got many changes to propose. Iron Tail somewhere in the neutrals or Smash Attacks? I dunno.

 

[Pupp135]

This post will be very dense, so I’ll leave Job 5 alone for now, but please vote your preferred moveset changes and roster number from below.

Here are the votes
Bowser’s Castle 9
Airship 3
Birabuto Kingdom 6

Chemical Plant Zone 5
Death Egg Zone 5
Casino Night Zone 8

City Trial 2
Cookie Country 10
Mt. Dedede 6

Bowser’s Castle, Casino Night Zone, and Cookie Country become our first stages.

Here are the following suggestions for character changes:

Mario:
Northsouthmap Cappy side special
AlRex

For Mario, I think Super Jump Punch should be moved to an Up Smash, give him the Dr. Mario stomp move in his aerials, new specials can be the FLUDD Nozzle Rocket as an Up B, which can shoot him upward in a direction angled by the controller, Cappy as a Side-B, where he throws the living hat, which can act as a long range grab, and Tanooki as a Down-B, which functions as a tail-themed Mario Tornado when tapped, but when held, allows him to become a statue, similar to Kirby's Down-B. Also Mega Mario as his Final Smash. You can choose to take or leave some of these elements.

Sonic:
Pupp135 Light Dash side special
AlRex

Some Sonic changes, Light-Speed Dash as the Side-B is a good call. I also think sprinkling in some more Sonic Battle moves in his neutrals/aerials is a good idea, and maybe a mechanic with Shields, which can enhance certain attacks and, of course, aid in defense. Maybe accessible via taunting. Combine both of his Spin Dashes into one special variable on how you tap buttons, and also have Drop Dash somewhere.

Kirby
AlRex

Fangame-wise, I think for Kirby, we could go with the Crusade idea of him just using abilities from his series that are thematically similar to the character he sucked up, for ease of programming as more and more characters get added. IE: Fire for Mario, Spark for Pikachu, Wheel for Sonic.

Pikachu
AlRex Iron Tail as a Smash attack or neutral.

Vote for only one for your preferred changes, or state that you’d prefer the moveset currently in Ultimate.

Mario: AlRex
Sonic: AlRex
Kirby: AlRex
Pikachu: Ultimate’s

Here are the proposed roster counts:
Pupp135 60
@Darkonedagger 50
Northsouthmap 56
nirvanafan 64

Vote for your three preferred roster counts (you can vote your’s for first).

1. 56
2. 64
3. 60

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. 64
2. 60
3. 56

 

[Northsouthmap]

Mario: AlRex
Sonic: Kirby
Kirby: AlRex
Pikachu: Ultimate

1. 64
2. 60
3. 50

 

[Deleted member]

Mario: AlRex
Sonic: AlRex
Kirby: AlRex
Pikachu: Ultimate

1. 64
2. 60
3. 50

 

[nirvanafan]

Roster size
50
64
60

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave moveset change voting up for one more day, but below are the results for roster sizes:

60 8
56 4
50 5
64 13

Our roster will have 64 fighters (kind of fitting since SSB started on the N64)

Nominations for moveset changes if you’d like to vote:

Mario:
Northsouthmap Northsouthmap Cappy side special
AlRex AlRex For Mario, I think Super Jump Punch should be moved to an Up Smash, give him the Dr. Mario stomp move in his aerials, new specials can be the FLUDD Nozzle Rocket as an Up B, which can shoot him upward in a direction angled by the controller, Cappy as a Side-B, where he throws the living hat, which can act as a long range grab, and Tanooki as a Down-B, which functions as a tail-themed Mario Tornado when tapped, but when held, allows him to become a statue, similar to Kirby's Down-B. Also Mega Mario as his Final Smash. You can choose to take or leave some of these elements
Sonic:
Pupp135 Pupp135 Light Dash side special
AlRex AlRex Some Sonic changes, Light-Speed Dash as the Side-B is a good call. I also think sprinkling in some more Sonic Battle moves in his neutrals/aerials is a good idea, and maybe a mechanic with Shields, which can enhance certain attacks and, of course, aid in defense. Maybe accessible via taunting. Combine both of his Spin Dashes into one special variable on how you tap buttons, and also have Drop Dash somewhere.
Kirby
AlRex AlRex Fangame-wise, I think for Kirby, we could go with the Crusade idea of him just using abilities from his series that are thematically similar to the character he sucked up, for ease of programming as more and more characters get added. IE: Fire for Mario, Spark for Pikachu, Wheel for Sonic.
Pikachu
AlRex AlRex Iron Tail as a Smash attack or neutral.

Job 5: Submit a character who is not playable in Ultimate.

I’ll go with Isaac from Golden Sun for this one as I find him to be fun to play in SSF2, but it helps that he is requested.

 

[Soul_of_Xeno]

Job 5: Submit a Character Who Is Not Playable in Ultimate

Name: Iori Yagami
Franchise: King of Fighters

I'd like to submit Iori for a few reasons. He is one of the most popular characters from the King of Fighters games, and SNK in general. Since Terry Bogard got into Smash Ultimate, we could spice up SNK's pick by choosing Iori instead. He'd fight using his projectiles for zoning, and have multiple hit attacks. He could also get an install, turning him into Orochi Iori, becoming incredibly violent and lashing out on all oponnents in his way.

 

[AlRex]

Before I submit one, since this is a fangame, and fan games have a good few of these, could I submit a non-VG character, or is that for later?

 

[Northsouthmap]

Job 5: Rayman

 

[Pupp135]

Before I submit one, since this is a fangame, and fan games have a good few of these, could I submit a non-VG character, or is that for later?

Please feel free to submit one. SSF2 and Crusade have them. If one wasn’t nominated this round, I was going to have a discussion if they should be allowed or not

 

[AlRex]

Alright, my strange choice...

Popeye
Popeye's a long-running comic strip/cartoon character, one who influenced the dynamic of Mario and Donkey Kong [scrappy working class hero = Popeyer or Mario, girl to save = Olive Oyl or Pauline/Peach, big brute who kidnaps the girl = Bluto/Brutus or Bowser/Donkey Kong], and even had an arcade game and various other products made by Nintendo early on. He has a ton of potential with his cartoony pugilistic style, basically reality warping via eating spinach, using his pipe as a jet, flamethrower, or even a vacuum, throwing anchor chains, having battleships come out of his biceps...maybe even a spinach meter or Final Smash that can buff him. There is a lot one could do with him. I pick him both because he's a pick that couldn't really be chosen for regular Smash, but he also still has a major Nintendo connection.

 

[Deleted member]

Scorpion
Probably not getting in Smash anytime soon. I think he'd be pretty fun.

 

[nirvanafan]

Goro Majima (Yakuza / Like a Dragon)

Wanted to go for a popular character / series who i do not think unfortunately have a high probability of being in actual smash.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Job 1:Bomberman

Bomberman is the eponymous protagonist from a video game series, he is a robot that lives in a planet called planet bomber

I'll resubmit bomberman

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Shrek

Shonen anime characters have been a staple of Smash fangames for quite some time, but where's the love for some doofy ol' cartoons? Shrek has the same infamous status in Smash fandom to Flash 2 and Crusade fighter Goku, so I feel it's fit that we'd finally give the lovely, lively ogre his dues.

 

[Pupp135]

For the moveset changes, AlRex ’s changes will be used for Mario, Sonic, and Kirby. Pikachu retains its Ultimate moveset.

For character nominations, here are the following:
Pupp135 Isaac
Soul_of_Xeno Iroi Yagami
Northsouthmap Rayman
AlRex Popeye
@Darkonedagger Scorpion
nirvanafan Goro Majima
DragonRobotKing26 Bomberman
Wario Wario Wario Shrek

Vote for your three most wanted newcomers, where yours is not first
1. Scorpion
2. Iori
3. Shrek