Smashboards Creates: SSB If It Was Created During the Switch Era

[darkvortex]

Skyloft
Works like it does in smash.

Home run Bat

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

All-Star
Mine 5
Louie G. 2
Northsouthmap 2

My all-star mode format will be used.

From the Donkey Kong poll, we’ll use Northsouthmap’s Donkey Kong recolors and alts.

For Edelgard, we’ll handle her recolors/alts like Wario/Little Mac, which is shown below. Masked Borb and I can update our list of recolors/alts.

(Edelgard)
I'm not as equipped to do this one as some of the more dedicated Three Houses fans among us. I just want to advocate to those who are for Edelgard having two core costumes like Wario, pre and post timeskip skins should both be available and may as well have four colors each. Or I guess three, if we want to give her the two special costumes on top of that. If it is three... then I mean, the pre-timeskip colors seem pretty obvious LOL.

Default outfit: The outfit for the Three Houses cover art (i.e. pre-time skip)
Dimitri Color Scheme
Claude Color Scheme
Byleth Color Scheme
Hubert Color Scheme
Child Edelgard Color Scheme
Time-skip outfit
Flame Emperor

Job 50: Edelgard's Costume Set
Since DK's got two suggestions already, I'll hold off on making a set for him. Poor Edie's got zilch, and I plan to change that.
1. Default Red for reference.
2. Golden Blonde Hair & Blue Armor, meant to reference Dimitri
3. Brown Hair & Yellow Armor, meant to reference Claude
4. Teal/Blue-Ish Hair & Dark Gray Armor, meant to reference Byleth
5. Black Hair & Black Armor, "Dark/Evil" alt, meant to reference Hubert
6. Purple Hair & Lighter Purple Armor, meant to reference Bernadetta
7. Edelgard, but 5 Years Ago...
8. Edelgard but Technically a Spoiler? Iffy on this one in particular, but I had nothing else that seemed "special" enough. But if we're using 5 Years later as the default, then is it really a spoiler? help-

My new Edelgard outfits:
1. Pre-Time Skip
2. Pre-Time Skip based on Her Childhood Appearance
3. Pre-Time Skip based on Byleth at the beginning of the game
4. Post Time Skip
5. Post Time Skip with Dimitri Color Scheme
6. Post Time Skip with Claude Color Scheme
7. Brave Edelgard in Heroes
8. Flame Emperor

For stages, here are the nominations.
Mushroomguy12 Hyrule Castle
Northsouthmap Fountain of Dreams
Pupp135 Boxing Ring
D darkvortex Skyloft

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Hyrule Castle
2. Boxing Ring
3. Fountain of Dreams

While I was thinking of stretching our imagination with LoZ and Kirby stages, Hyrule Castle and Fountain of Dreams are two of my favorite stages in the series.

Job 52: Submit Luigi and Princess Zelda Movesets

Job 53: Submit a Nintendo Fighter (Open Ended)

I entertained the idea for vouching for Villager again or another Fire Emblem character, but I’m going to choose a character from a dormant franchise in the form of Ness. While SSB contributed to Mother’s popularity in the West, the series was a cult classic in Japan, and I find this idea interesting for a fighter from a dormant franchise.
Job 54: Submit an Assist Trophy

I’ll nominate the Villager from Animal Crossing, and (s)he would operate like Isabelle in For.

For Bonuses, feel free to submit an item and four history cards for franchises with a fighter

Spoiler: Franchises

Super Mario
Donkey Kong
Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Fire Emblem
Kirby
Pokemon
Animal Crossing
Pikmin
Xenoblade
Splatoon
ARMS[/SPOILER

Trophies: Agahnim, Sheik, Skull Kid, Sidon
Item: Bob-Omb

 

[BritishGuy54]

Job 53: King Dedede (Kirby)

I think Kirby could get away with having another character, and hey, it’s another villain.

Job 54: King Boo (Super Mario)

Another king, huh? Well, this ghost ought to be here as a new Assist Trophy, trapping fighters within paintings and causing some damage.

History Cards:
- Boo, Polterpup, Dr. Mario, Viruses
- Jin, Lora, Amalthus, Rex (Master Driver)

Items: Core Crystal (Xenoblade)

Functions similar to the SSB6 thread, where it’s possible to summon one of three Blades to assist you for a short time. Similar to the Special Flag in Ultimate in how much time it takes to resonate.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Job 53

Ring Fit Trainer (Ring Fit)

So Nintendo just released the Alarmo, and among the five franchises there was Ring Fit, with the other four franchises all having characters in Smash already. The fact that Ring Fit was chosen to be added in the base Alarmo as one of the starting five tells me that Nintendo does see it as a high priority franchise in the Switch era and that these guys have a good chance of making it to the next Smash. Much like Inkling and Wii Fit Trainer, since the female trainer is more prominent in the marketing, the female is the default.

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

Job 53: Ayumi Tachibana

Could be added due to the recent Famicom Detective game.

 

[darkvortex]

1. Hyrule Castle
2. Fountain of Dreams
3. Boxing Ring

Yoshi
Super iconic character. If we're going to have one more Mario universe character, then it comes down to him or Wario, but I think Yoshi's huge presence in the Mario franchise gives him the leg over the greedy plumber.

Airwings (Star Fox)

Will fly forwards through the stage, rainaing down blasts on the fighters below.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Stage Vote

1. Fountain of Dreams
2. Hyrule Castle
3. Boxing Ring

 

[Northsouthmap]

1, Hyrule Castle
2. Fountain of Dreams
3. Boxing Ring

Tom Nook
Instead of Villager, why not Tom Nook?

Swooping SnitchBug
I feel that Pikmin needs an assist trophy.

 

[nirvanafan]

Fighter - Andy

Advance Wars reboot was originally supposed to release holiday 2021, the same timeframe of our game before it suffered severe delays. Plus is a remake so we arent reliant on needing source material from the release.

Assist - Snip & Clip?
Not sure we need a description of how they would work, honestly not sure how to do it myself but someone more creative might. Think Snipperclips getting in with this role would make sense.

 

[Pupp135]

Before we go to the next round, I’ll leave submissions up until tomorrow.

 

[Masked Borb]

Edelgard's Updated Alts

Spoiler: Alts

Red 1 (Default) - Default 5 Years Ago
Red 2 - 5 Years Later
Yellow-Blonde Hair, Blue Cape & ...Pants? - Dimitri-Inspired
Yellow Hair, Blue Armor - Also Dimitri-Inspired
Brown Hair, Yellow Cape & ...Pants? - Claude-Inspired
Brown Hair, Yellow Armor - Also Claude-Inspired
This one that may be from that one mobile game
This one that may or may not be a spoiler

Stages
1. Boxing Ring
2. Skyloft
3. Fountain of Dreams

Boxing Ring is carried by the fact that the devs can come up with fun boxing titles for the characters for me.

Job 52 - Zelda & Luigi: Movesets
Alright, Zelda... Now, this kiiiiiinda depends on which Zelda is being used. ARE we using the Zelda used in Ultimate/A Link To The Past/A Link Between Worlds like the images propose? If so, go ahead and paste Ultimate Zelda's moves here then.

However, if we were to fit Zelda into her BOTW appearance like Link and the boss, Calamity Ganon, I'd change around a few moves to go with the look..

Spoiler: Guys, it's Link

Every move not mentioned is basically the same as in Ultimate. Just with LiGhT mAgIc instead of fire or sparkles.

Up-Smash - Light Pillar: Zelda summons a pillar of light magic that pierces the heavens! ...or as high as Palutena's Up-Smash could go.
Down-Air - Cryonis Drop: Zelda summons a block of ice from the Sheikah Slate that drops down, acting as a short-range projectile most similar to Mega Man's Hard Knuckle Down-Air.

Grab - Magnesis Rune: A slow, but very long-reaching grab using the Sheikah Slate. She pummels us by using Light Magic from her open palm.
Down-Throw would be the only one where she flings you downwards using Magnesis. Every other throw would have her use Stasis on the opponent, before rapidly using her light magic jabs all around you in a funny animation, before you're sent flying Up, Forward, or Backwards.

Neutral Special - Daruk's Protection: Zelda summons a barrier around her that damages opponents it touches, and reflects projectiles for a short time.
Side Special - Mipha's Grace: Zelda hurls a chargeable ball of magic towards her opponents. If it hits, Zelda can heal herself a certain amount depending on the level of charge! Just hurling it by pressing the imput quickly can heal about 3%, charging it for a little bit can heal about 5%, and full charge can heal about 15%!
Up Special - Revali's Gale: Zelda summons a gust of wind below her that sends her flying upwards. The flight upwards can do a bit of damage, and the wind below her can be used to stop recovering opponents and blow them back.
Down Special - Urbosa's Fury: Zelda snaps her finger to summon a bolt of lightning coming from the sky at a diagonal angle.

As for Luigi... I'm leaning into some of his more notable appearances as a "Star Player". Ultimate's finally tapping into more Luigi's Mansion stuff... but there's another series that has his name in it that could do with a bit of representation here...

Oh, and other moves that could make him different than Mario. That too.

Spoiler: Mama Luigi

Like Zelda's, every move not mentioned is the same as in Ultimate.
Jab - A one-two-kick combo, like his big bro's.
Dash Attack - Luigi trips over himself and slides along the ground for a bit. Most similar to King Dedede's own dash attack.

Forward Smash - Luigi holds up a hard-hitting Hammer over his head, slamming it down with a hard THOK. Unfortunately, there's a small chance the head of the hammer falls off, and he attacks with a stick that does no damage. That chance rises with every time he uses it per stock, so it's best not to overuse it.
Up Smash - Luigi crouches down and performs a super jump, akin to the same Up Smash I proposed for Peach.

N-Air - Luigi flails his arms and legs around for an unintentional multi-hitting attack. This move can actually stop Luigi's downwards momentum in the air as if he were floating, which could help with recovering.
D-Air - Luigi rapidly kicks his legs downwards. Inspired by how he jumps in most of his playable appearences.

Neutral Special - Ice Ball: Luigi tosses a ball of ice from his finger. It can of course freeze the opponent if he hits them enough with the move. It is shorter in horizontal range than Mario's Fire Ball, but can bounce MUCH higher than it, potentially hitting any jumping opponents.
Side Special - Shell Kick: Luigi takes out a Green Shell and kicks it forwards. It can hit multiple opponents and bounce off of walls and reflecting moves. There's a rare chance that a Red Shell can be kicked instead, which can only hit one opponent before disappearing, but can do even more damage. If Luigi uses the imput as either shell comes towards him, the shell can be hit back even faster and stronger than before! But the shells break after it hits one more opponent after that. Luigi can also miss the kick and also get hit, unfortunately.
Down Special - Bounce Bro: Luigi performs a backflip that ends with him landing either on the ground or on top of an opponent with his hands, before bouncing upwards to perform another flip - this one dealing multi-hit damage like his new N-Air. If the first flip has him land on the opponent, they'd get pushed into the ground and buried, like ZSS's own Down Special. If the first flip somehow lands Luigi on an airborne opponent, they get spiked while Luigi bounces upwards. Luigi can jump out of the move if he goes to far down or misses the first flip.

Job 53: Nintendo Fighter
I pick... WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The question stands, though. Mario character? Or Wario character? If the latter, would he be a WarioWare character? Or a Wario Land character? Or should he just be a general "Wario series" character?

Job 54: Assist Trophy
UR-URG, or whatever Thwomps say. I'm suggesting a Thwomp, btw.

History Cards:
Pauline (Super Mario)
Professor Oak (Pokémon)
Susie (Kirby)
Chrom & Robin (Fire Emblem)

Item:
Poké Ball: It works like how it would in Smash Ultimate. It would have about... let's say 8 or so Pokémon that could show up. One to match each main generation at the time. One Kanto Pokémon, one Sinnoh Pokémon, one Alola Pokémon, etc.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Hyrule Castle 11
Fountain of Dreams 10
Boxing Ring 8
Skyloft 2

Hyrule Castle and Fountain of Dreams are the next stages.

Here are the new Edelgard submissions:

My new Edelgard outfits:
1. Pre-Time Skip
2. Pre-Time Skip based on Her Childhood Appearance
3. Pre-Time Skip based on Byleth at the beginning of the game
4. Post Time Skip
5. Post Time Skip with Dimitri Color Scheme
6. Post Time Skip with Claude Color Scheme
7. Brave Edelgard in Heroes
8. Flame Emperor

Spoiler: Alts

Red 1 (Default) - Default 5 Years Ago
Red 2 - 5 Years Later
Yellow-Blonde Hair, Blue Cape & ...Pants? - Dimitri-Inspired
Yellow Hair, Blue Armor - Also Dimitri-Inspired
Brown Hair, Yellow Cape & ...Pants? - Claude-Inspired
Brown Hair, Yellow Armor - Also Claude-Inspired
This one that may be from that one mobile game
This one that may or may not be a spoiler

Which Edegard Alts Should We Use? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Pupp135, Masked Borb

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We’ll use Masked Borb ’s Luigi and Zelda movesets.

Here are the fighter nominations
Pupp135 Ness
BritishGuy54 King Dedede
Mushroomguy12 Ring Fit Trainee
Qwerty UIOP Ayumi Tachibana
D darkvortex Yoshi
Northsouthmap Tom Nook
nirvanafan Andy
Masked Borb Wario

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Yoshi
2. Ness
3. Tom Nook

Yoshi is the biggest Nintendo character missing from the roster, so I’d like to have him on the roster. Tom Nook is a case where I’d want a second Animal Crossing fighter.

Here are the assist nominations

Pupp135 Villager
BritishGuy54 King Boo
D darkvortex Arwing
Northsouthmap Swooping Snitchbug
nirvanafan Snip & Clip
Masked Borb Thwomp

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Arwing
2. Snip & Clip
3. Villager

Arwing and Snip & Clip are very creative choices that I’d like to vouch for.

Job 55: Submit a Boss

While he is a playable character in Ultimate, this is treated as the first SSB game, so I nominate King K. Rool. He is a popular villain from the Donkey Kong Country series, and I wanted something from a franchise different from the ones listed below.
Job 56: Submit Recolors and Alts for Dr. Coyle and Olimar

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

1. King Dedede
2. Ayumi Tachibana
3. Ring Fit Trainee

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Yoshi
2. King Dedede
3. Ring Fit Trainee

I do think we ought to get one of the extra Mario characters in the base game, but not both. I’m sorry to Wario fans, but I’d rather Yoshi get in. Although I think Wario would be a perfect fit for DLC.

King Dedede is also obvious. I don’t really want to have a Melee situation where many series got left in the dust compared to Nintendo’s big three.

Job 55: Octobot King (Splatoon)

Yeah, it’s gotta be Splatoon.

1. Swooping Snitchbug
2. King Boo
3. Snip & Clip

 

[nirvanafan]

1 Ring Fit
2 Andy
3 Ayumi

1 Villager
2 Snip & Clip
3 Arwing

Boss - Dark Matter (Kirby)

Feel like Kirby & Pokemon are probably next in line for boss fights. Think this can be a fun one, maybe multiple phases against different forms like Ultimates Dracula fight.

 

[darkvortex]

1. Wario
2. Ring Fit Trainee
3. Yoshi

1. King Boo
2. Thwomp
3. Arwings

Emperor Bulblax
Pikmin actually feels like a pretty logical fit for a boss pick considering how big a part boss fights play in the series. The final boss of the first game an a recurring boss in all the later games. It will attack with its tounge and use its heavy body to slam down. Players must throw items in its mouth.

 

[Masked Borb]

Fighters
1. Ring Fit Trainee - I spat out my milk when I saw that this..."series" was shown off on Alarmo. So sure.
2. WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1!
3. King Dedede - He's a heavy, a....v-....v-UUUUUgh... a recurring playable/boss character from a popular series, and he's funny! What's not to like?

Ayumi & Andy are honorable mentions here. I also won't cry (too hard) if Yoshi were included over Wario if it came down to it. But I am in agreement that only ONE of them should show up. Just so happens that Wario is my "ONE".

Assist Trophies
1. Snip & Clip
2. Arwing
3. King Boo

Job 55: Boss - Marx (Kirby)

All the bosses we've got so far have all been big eldritch monsters. Which is why I'll suggest this slightly little-er guy for a Kirby boss. I have a suggestion for how his boss fight would be different here than in Ultimate... at least, at first. Kirby Star Allies would've been his latest appearance, and the moveset they gave to him features his boss attacks in his winged form... but also some attacks in his base form as well! So for the first phase of this hypothetical new boss fight, you'd fight Marx in his base form as he hops around on his ball, rolling around on it to ram into you, kicking it occasionally, and other moves potentially inspired by the Circus ability from Triple Deluxe, like flipping through flaming hoops that damage you. Like most modern Kirby bosses, Marx would get all mad and power up for his second phase, which transitions into his winged form, letting the boss play out like it does in Ultimate.

Job 56: Dr. Coyle Alts
Green - Default
Silver - Alt from ARMS
Yellow - Another alt from ARMS
Red - Yet another alt from ARMS
Black - Original, "EVIL" colors (or, Evil-er, in her case)
Purple - Original, swaps the purple on her mask to green to parallel her default look.
White Labcoat - From this piece of official artwork here
Blue Dress - From this piece of official anniversary artwork

 

[Louie G.]

1. King Dedede
2. Wario
3. Tom Nook

These are three characters I really want to see on our roster. I'll back the sentiment that it'd be nice to see Kirby get a bit more love and beef up some of our already present series... and I feel similarly about Tom Nook, who is a super fun character and a prominent Nintendo mascot in his own right. And while I somewhat agree with BritishGuy's judgement of Wario being good DLC (vs Yoshi, who feels like more of a base pick) I'd rather be true to my heart and vouch for my favorite of the two. Plus, I really feel like the striking identity of something like WarioWare stands out a lot more here than Yoshi which is treated more as a direct extension of Mario's universe. Which is to say yes, he should still be dominantly based around WarioWare.

I appreciate some of these other choices but I don't feel ready for them yet. And Andy in particular doesn't feel like an especially practical choice when his remake didn't even get a Japanese release. Ayumi could be cool, but I'd be more confident backing her in a game produced later than this... the initial remake in and of itself doesn't sway me that much. Ring Fit Trainee I'll talk about, Yoshi deserves to be here but I'm opting Wario right now. Ness... I admire the boldness to nominate him, I think there's a case to be made, but I don't see us going for that right now.

1. Snip & Clip
2. Swooping Snitchbug
3. King Boo

Good choices. Arwing is a neat nomination but I'm still pulling for a playable Fox before this is all said and done, so I'm not really in favor of trying to do a Captain Falcon situation here. Not that he can't just... not be piloting that Arwing, I guess.

Job 55: Dragaux (Ring Fit Adventure)

Adding yet another dragon to the pile, it's Dragaux from Ring Fit. We haven't represented this game on the roster yet, and I suppose it's still up in the air whether we will or not. But I think we should contemplate ways to maybe represent some of these series by other means, and I think a goofy boss battle with this swole fitness junkie dragon would do the trick. Try to catch him off guard and attack when he is getting some stretches in.

I'm gonna resubmit this. I think Ring Fit Adventure warrants significant content, but I'm a little unmoved by Ring Fit Trainee as a candidate. Mind you, I think she's pretty much a shoo-in for the next REAL Smash game. But for this one, with our already limited space, how much do we actually want to put aside for her? More of a "makes sense" character, less of an exciting truly inspired choice among this group. At least that's how I see it right now.

But I think Dragaux would make a great boss with or without her, nicely representing the game's quirky identity.

 

[LoZ00]

Fighters:
1. Yoshi: Yet again I sense that two popular and potentially overlapping characters might cannibalize each other, this time being Yoshi and Wario. I went with the green dinosaur for a few reasons, most notably I consider Yoshi to be more part of the main Mario group and because I think that Wario could potentially make for a better DLC fighter.
2. King Dedede: Let's keep doubling down on some series! I think Dedede makes the perfect addition to the roster, due to how fun as a character he is! He is yet another big body fighter and I'd love to add another small agile fighter on top of Pikachu, but I cannot overlook the King's potential as a fighter. Maybe for next round I should get involved into actually, you know, nominating fighters instead of staying on the sideline (I was very busy sry)
3. Andy: I like the wilder idea and I think that he makes perfect sense. I don't recall his game being originally meant to be launched in 2021, but it was definitely supposed to launch in 2022. Even then, though, Andy is not a character coming from a debuting series, so I feel that the developers would know how to handle him.

Assists:
1. Arwing: You know, I think this is the perfect amount of representation the Star Fox series should get, besides maybe a stage. It would be a fun and somewhat more unique way to represent an otherwise dormant series.
2. Snip & Clip: An incredibly fun choice which I totally love!
3. Swooping Snitchbug: A choice I would have never in 1000 years thought about which somehow makes absolutely sense. I freaking love it!

Overall, I gotta say that I was delighted by the Assists you guys put forward. ALL of them are INCREDIBLY GREAT ideas and the three I ended up choosing were just a smidge better in my opinion.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. King DDD
2. Yoshi
3. Wario

Boss: Plasm Wrath (Pikmin)

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Ness 2
King Dedede 14
Ring Fit Trainee 10
Ayumi Tachibana 3
Yoshi 12
Tom Nook 2
Andy 3
Wario 8

King Dedede and Yoshi are our next fighters.

Villager 4
King Boo 7
Arwing 10
Swooping Snitchbug 6
Snip & Clip 13
Thowmp 2

Snip & Clip, Arwing, and King Boo are our next assist trophies.

Here are the boss nominations:
Pupp135 King K. Rool
BritishGuy54 DJ Octavio
nirvanafan Dark Matter
D darkvortex Emperor Bulbax
Masked Borb Marx
Louie G. Dragaux
Northsouthmap Plasm Wraith

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.
1. Marx
2. King K. Rool
3. Dragaux

I thought the Marx battle was cool in Ultimate, and Dragaux would be an interesting way to introduce Ring Fit Adventure to our game.

For recolors, we’ll use Masked Borb ’s Edelgard and Dr. Coyle recolors and alts.

Job 56: Submit Recolors and Alts for Dr. Coyle and Olimar
Job 57: Submit a Stage (Open Ended)

I’m going to nominate Boxing Ring from Punch Out!! I feel like this stage really fits perfectly, and it would be cool to have another stage or two from franchises without fighters.

Job 58: Submit Movesets for King Dedede and Yoshi
As a Bonus, Submit Four History Cards and One Item
Midna
Ghirahim
Melia
Reyn

I’ll nominate the Smart Bomb, which operates like in the real games.

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

1. Plasm Wraith
2. Marx
3. DJ Octavio

 

[nirvanafan]

1 DJ Octavio
2 Dark Matter
3 Plasm Wraith

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Marx
2. Plasm Wrath
3. DJ Octavio

 

[darkvortex]

1. Marx
2. DJ Octavio
3. Plasm Wraith

Yoshi's Island
Sort of like a modern take on the Brawl stage.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Temple
Trying to get some of the best stages out of the way first.

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave jobs and voting up until tomorrow:

Job 56: Submit Recolors and Alts for Dr. Coyle and Olimar
Job 57: Submit a Stage (Open Ended)
Job 58: Submit Movesets for King Dedede and Yoshi
As a Bonus, Submit Four History Cards and One Item

 

[nirvanafan]

Frigate Orpheon

Feel like a Prime stage makes sense with 4 on the mind despite being years away.

History Cards
Impa
Three Mages (Kirby Star Allies, 2018)
Elma (Xenoblade X)
Doshin the Giant

 

[Masked Borb]

Bosses
1. DJ Octavio - He uses machines and stuff, it's totally different-
2. Marx - insert ear-piercing screeching sound when marx dies here
3. King K. Rool - Yes, he's big and scary, but he's not a giant dragon monster who shoots fire. He's a funny croc.

Job 57: Stage

Gerudo Town (Legend Of Zelda)

I figure we could use a desert-y stage of sorts. I could see a few shops being used as bounce pads to use while in the air. As you fight, several of the Gerudo, with a special appearance by Urbosa, all watch as you duke it out.

Bringing this one back-

Job 58: King Dedede's Moveset
The king of the hammer swing is actually pretty darn perfect. And since he uses many moves originally from Smash IN games he shows up in (example: gordo throw in KF2), what really is there to change in his moves? well..... not much. Even these seem somewhat unnecessary, but I'm suggesting them anyway. Every other move is the same as in Ultimate.

Spoiler: Dedede's "New" Specials

Neutral Special - Inhale: For this version of the move, Dedede's Inhale, compared to Kirby's, is now slightly more than TWICE its size. Giving slightly more range to the move, to compensate for not being able to copy other's powers. Also, he can heal when eating certain projectiles like Kirby now-
Up Special - Super Dedede Jump/Triple Dedede Jump: Just like usual, Dedede jumps into the air and slams down with his royal body, sending small shockwave Stars on his sides to make those near him flinch. Performing that same input as Dedede reaches the ground will have him jump up and slam down again, and can be done one more time, this last jump raising even higher and slaming down even harder!
Down Special - Hammer Flip: ...Dedede's hammer bursts into flames like Kirby's. If Dedede is at around 30%, he's able to send a flaming projectile in the direction he swings his weapon, like Link when at 0%, kind of.

Oh, uh, Yoshi. He can have his Ultimate moveset, unless someone else has something in mind for him-

Item - Superspicy Curry (Kirby)
Yummy. Anyone smell something burning?

History Cards:
Corrin (Fire Emblem)
Pichu, Raichu, & Alolan Raichu/"Pikachu Family Tree" (Pokémon)
Igglybuff & Wigglytuff/"Jigglypuff Family Tree" (Pokémon)
Purah (Legend Of Zelda)

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

King K. Rool 3
DJ Octavio 10
Dark Matter 2
Emperor Bulbax
Marx 13
Dragaux 1
Plasm Wraith 7

Marx and DJ Octavio are the next bosses.

Here are the nominations.

Pupp135 Boxing Ring
D darkvortex Yoshi’s Island
Northsouthmap Temple
nirvanafan Frigate Orpheon
Masked Borb Gerudo Town

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Gerudo Town
2. Boxing Ring
3. Yoshi’s Island

My vote for Gerudo Town is primarily based on wanting a stage that’s different from canon SSB. Yoshi’s Island provides a Yoshi stage.

In terms of King Dedede and Yoshi movesets, we’ll use what Masked Borb proposed.

Job 56: Submit Recolors and Alts for and Olimar

Job 59: Submit a Fighter

I’ll nominate Lucina here as she is a popular character in the Fire Emblem franchise, and she provides the traditional swordfighter moveset that differs from how Link and Aegis fight.

Job 60: Nominate one Kanto (Gen I) and one Jhoto (Gen II) for the Pokeball item.


I’ll nominate Magikarp and Scizor, where Magikarp operates like Goldeen, and Scizor operates like it does in Ultimate.

Also, Louie G. can replace the history cards originally used for King Dedede and DJ Octavio.

 

[BritishGuy54]

Job 59: Cinderace (Pokémon)

I think both Pokémon and Fire Emblem can justify themselves having extra unique characters for their series.

With Pokémon, it would make a degree of sense to give SwSh a representative.

 

[nirvanafan]

1 Boxing Ring
2 Frigate Orpheon
3 Gerudo Town

Fighter - Nooklings

Here me out. Our 2021 release does put us past the New Horizons boom which would make an extra seem ideal. Like the concept of Ice Climbers & feel like it could be applied here & help differentiate our 2 series reps more then being semi-clones. Plus this isnt that far disconnected from adding Nook, who alongside Villager, are probably the favorites to be added making this a logical surprise & fun twist imo.

 

[Louie G.]

1. Boxing Ring
2. Yoshi’s Island
3. Gerudo Town

Yeesh, I wish we got more original submissions. Anyway, Little Mac or otherwise I think Boxing Ring is a no brainer. Yoshi deserves a home stage and Gerudo Town could be pretty neat.

Job 59: Tom Nook

I admire nirvanafan’s creativity in advocating for the Nooklings - frankly I wouldn’t be mad at it, there’s a strong case for archetypical originality there. Although I think it may still make more sense to pair the Nooklings up with Nook himself, as summons or tagalongs within his moveset. In fact, I actually think there’s a very good argument for a moveset where the Nooklings are puppets or orbiters in Nook’s proximity almost like a Luma.

I’m a firm believer that Nook is one of the most significant characters absent from the roster with loads of untapped, often overlooked potential and identity. So it was my intent to nominate him anyway, sorry if this is stepping on Nooklings’ toes a little. We’re just running out of space and time so I’d like to nail this in proper. I really hope these nominations don’t cannibalize each other but I’m curious to know which people feel more affinity toward.

 

[LoZ00]

Job #59: Fighter
I'm resubmitting Little Mac:

Job #32: Little Mac

THE OTHER DAY WHILE LISTING THE SERIES I WANTED TO HAVE REPRESENTED IN THIS GAME I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS GUY!
Ok, so, the whole deal here, at least for me, is that Little Mac and Punch-Out!! stuff in general make a lot of sense to be added to a Nintendo fighting game crossover, considering how Little Mac literally is a bruiser. In terms of playstyle, I guess he'd be somewhat similar to his canon Smash self, just way less polarized: his ground game and speed would be toned down a bit, while his aerials would all be much stronger, making for a rushdown, ground-based fighter.
I don't know it's just I want Little Mac in this game, especially now that we have ARMS stuff: let Dr. Coyle have a rival (admittedly, a Spring Man-Little Mac rivalry would have worked better, but still)!

Stages:
1. Yoshi's Island: Yoshi needs a home stage and I think that Yoshi's Island is the perfect choice here. The cute and unique aesthetics is also a great point in favor of this stage.
2. Gerudo Town: Desert stage is cool and I think that Zelda could use a bonus stage. After all, it is one of the widest series Nintendo has under their belt.
3. Temple: Still, Zelda could use another stage AND Temple is one of the cooler Smash stages, although I'd say that it feels a bit too close to OT Smash, imo.
I didn't vote for Boxing Ring because I submitted Little Mac himself and I can't see another stage for Punch-Out!! other than, again, Boxing Ring.

Job #60: Poké Ball Pokémon

Kanto -- Farfetch'd: Appears on stage and performs the move False Swipe. It swings his leek around while walking back and forth around the stage. It moves somewhat slowly around the stage and the range and damage are nothing to write home about, befitting a somewhat weak Pokémon.

Johto -- Ariados: Ariados stays stationary and performs the moves Spider Web and Toxic Thread. It shoots either a normal, greenish spider web on the stage or a toxic, purple web. The webs latch onto the background (or float in midair, I just thought it is better to have a visual indicator on the xy plane instead of the xz one) and if an opponent walks through the web they get slowed down. If they walk through a toxic web, they become poisoned, taking damage over time, on top of being slowed down.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Character Job

Sami (Advance Wars)

Sami is a fairly popular character from Advance Wars and would have an interesting moveset based around tanks and infantry. The remake was recently announced in 2021 so it would be great timing.

 

[darkvortex]

1. Gerudo Town
2. Yoshi’s Island
3. Boxing Ring

I wanna start getting more original stages in here.

Officer Howard (Astral Chain)
New-ish IP. I think a Platinum games character makes sense considering their partnership with Nintendo. Bayonetta is more iconic but is not actually owned by Nintendo so I don't know what her eligibility for this would be. Howard could have a really fun moveset making use of the various forms from the game, with a style changing system.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Yoshi's Island
2. Temple
3. Boxing Ring

Ring Fit Trainee
New IP from Nintendo is always a plus. It could serve as this universe's Wii Fit Trainer.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
Boxing Ring 10
Yoshi’s Island 11
Temple 3
Frigate Orpheon 2
Gerudo Town 10

Yoshi’s Island will be added, and I’ll set up a poll between Boxing Ring and Gerudo Town.

Which stage should be added? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Gerudo Town, Boxing Ring

strawpoll.com

Here are the nominations:

Pupp135 Lucina
BritishGuy54 Cinderace
nirvanafan Nooklings
Louie G. Tom Nook
LoZ00 Little Mac
Mushroomguy12 Sami
D darkvortex Officer Howard
Northsouthmap Ring Fit Trainee

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Tom Nook
2. Lucina
3. Ring Fit Trainee

I’d want to add Villager, but it seems that (s)he has missed the boat at this point, so I’ll vouch for Tom instead. Nothing else is grabbing my interest too much, but I’ll go with Ring Fit Trainee as my third place vote to add a new series.

Here is a poll to choose between Magikarp or Farfethch’d for the pokeball pokemon and between Scizor and Ariados.

Which pokeball pokemon should be added? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Magikarp, Farfetch’d

strawpoll.com

Which pokeball pokemon should be added? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Ariodos, Scizor

strawpoll.com

Job 56: Submit Recolors and Alts for and Olimar

Job 61: Submit Recolors and Alts for Pokemon Trainer and Aegis

Job 62: Submit an Assist Trophy

I’ll nominate the Villager from Animal Crossing as Animal Crossing is one of Nintendo’s core franchises, and (s)he is one of the few crossover characters in Mario Kart 8.

Feel Free to also submit Four History Cards and an Item.
Toadette
Rosalina
Bowser Jr.
Dark Samus

I’ll submit Lightning Bolt, which works like in real SSB

 

[nirvanafan]

1 Sami
2 Tom Nook (think this idea makes more sense although do personally think the Ice Climbers-esc duo approach would be more fun to play as imo)
3 Officer Howard

 

[BritishGuy54]

Job 61: recolours

1. Standard Colours
2. Pneuma Colours
3. Mythra-style & Pyra-style
4. Gold & Silver
5. Dark Colours, same as SSBU
6. Pink & Purple
7. Gormotti Diguises (Brown for , White for )
8. Pro Swimmer and Radiant Beach Swimsuits? Are they allowed? How’s this game doing on the good boys and girls front? Alternatively, we could have their SSBU P6 designs instead.

Job 62: Salmonids (Splatoon)

Well, Salmon Run is a part of Splatoon. I like the idea of these critters running around.