Smash Ultimate Leak Discussion Thread

[Luigi The President]

May I interrupt for a moment to say something?

I feel like this Ken leak in that image (That one with the little menu which looks like an debug menu) is one of the highest quality in Smash leaks, since Rayman which unfortunately was debunked by the artist himself. Was fun while it lasted.

IMHO it is the best Smash image leak ever made if it's fake. Palutena has literally nothing on it. Rayman comes close.

 

[SSB4Dojo]

True, I can't imagine how mad or disappointed Sakurai can be when leaks are starting to come out of the shed. Therefore, he had to do smash direct with remaining unrevealed characters or surprise character trailers out of the nowhere.

Yeah. It seems he is more prepared this time such as saying that all characters will be revealed before launch. While it might suck a bit knowing everyone in 2-3 weeks that will be in Smash at launch, that will get a big weight off his back of fear of unintended reveals/leaks. He can save a DLC character or 2 to reveal right before launch to help maintain the hype. Either way, real leaks will be coming soon and it will be interesting to see what Sakurai decides to do.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If I had to guess who was left. This is who I predict.

Unique Fighters:
Bandana Dee or Elma (70)
Geno (72)
Incineroar (69)
Isaac (71)

Echo Fighters:
Dixie Kong(36e)
Ken(60e)
Medusa(54e)
Shadow(38e)

Since the Miis and Pokemon Trainer are classified as one that would round out to 80 fighters including echos.

Mine:

Uniques:
Elma
Waddle Dee
Incineroar
Neku Sakuraba

Echoes:
Ken
Black Shadow
Impa
Zack Fair

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Out of context but I saw a Geno reference in Kingdom Hearts.

It is not a leak but I just want to point that out to yall..

If it is true, then that is a neat nod to Geno.

 

[Fenriraga]

Once again, guys, this thread is for leak discussion. Not for "Why X should be in Smash" or "Predictions" or specific character discussion or anything of the sort. I know we all came from the General Discussion thread, but this ISN'T the general discussion thread.

 

[Michele]

IMHO it is the best Smash image leak ever made if it's fake. Palutena has literally nothing on it. Rayman comes close.

I get it, but don't the highest quality leaks also come off as fake? I mean...It is pretty difficult to create high quality images but can be pretty rewarding too. I didn't believe in Agnes leak but when that same OP on 4chan admitting to it being a translating error, I almost believed him...Well, almost, but still...

I want to debunk leaks, as it's my hobby, but this Ken leak is probably the most difficult if it was fake, due to there being no evidence or thing pointing to it being fake... I have to admit that it is real but if it's fake, good work!

 

[Gothitelle]

These leaks have been getting out of hand recently, so I've gathered a list of every character leaked by the following catalogue of leakers:
Vergeben: Decidedly the most reliable of sources here, Vergeben has an amazing track record for both this game and several others. Among many other things, he announced that Snake and Ice Climbers would return, that there would be no cuts from Smash 4, and that Ridley, Isabelle, and Simon Belmont would be added. Due to his reliability, anything he claimed would be in below is in green.
LaPailleDor (1): A leaker on French forum jeuxvideo, LaPailleDor claimed that Chrom, K Rool, Richter, and Simon would be playable, as well as Dracula as a boss and stage morph being an option, all later coming true. However, the mods of the forum claim that these were faked.
LaPailleDor (2): A 4chan leaker who claims to be LaPailleDor, giving several pieces of evidence of his identity.
WhisslBlank (1): More commonly known as the NeoGAF Leaker, WhisslBlank claimed that K Rool, Simon, and Chrom would be added.
WhisslBlank (2): A second NeoGAF account claiming to be WhisslBlank, offering possibly falsified evidence. As this is likely false, and the claim that Galacta Knight will be a Meta Knight echo is already soft-deconfirmed, anything that only he claimed will be in red.
Ken Leaker: A 4chan leaker who posted an image of Ken in the debug mode. This image has been proven time and time again to be watertight.
Loz18: A GameFAQs leaker who claimed that there would be a Smash direct in August that showed a full tour of the menus, that would show three modes, and that there would be a cutscene themed around heroes vs villains (which turned out to be K Rool's reveal trailer).
Senjougahara Hitagi: A leaker who has got several things right about other games. As Vergeben has backed up Senjougahara and claimed that the two share sources, leaks from them will also be in green.

[4] Ken: Vergeben, Ken Leaker (obviously), LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Geno: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Isaac: LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Skull Kid: LaPailleDor (2), Loz18
[2] Sora: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Steve: Vergeben, Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Ayumi Tachibani: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Bandai Namco Character: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Black Shadow: LaPailleDor (1)
[1] Dixie Kong: Loz18
[1] Felix: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Galacta Knight: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Incineroar: Vergeben
[1] Katalina (or other Granblue Character): Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Monster Hunter: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Medusa: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Ninten: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Reimu Hakurei: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Sable Prince: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Shadow: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Soren: WhisslBlank (1)
[1] Terra: WhisslBlank (2)
Italicised Names indicates the leaker was not specific about the character, but there is reason to believe they refer to that character.

Not included is the Richter Leak, as the story behind it is extremely unlikely. It claims that Gothitelle and Gardevoir will be playable.

 

[Nekoo]

One common criticism for Geno is that he is an obscure niche character coming from a game that is over a decade. I want to make a quick rebuttal.

The thing is, Sakurai already implemented obscure characters from niche games before.

Pit and Ice Climbers? Both are niche and obscure character that only appear at one game, just like Geno. Sure Pit regain status once again but at that time..he is a literal Who?

Again, you may thought that both characters are retro characters..but I may point out that the SNES is over 20 years old at that point..It IS retro.

While I want Geno/Sora/DQ Characters in.
You need to understand that Square-Enix need to see a good reasons to lend Geno in.
I'm sure Sakurai went to asks for Geno for Ultimate, the question being if Square see any interest to lend Geno.
Heck. If the Timeline is right. I'm willing to bet they did lend Cloud because they had the FFVII Remake to show the next E3.
Sonic supposedly got back in Smash 4 after a deal to make another Mario/Sonic Olympic Game, a Zelda/Yoshi crossover for Lost world and I forgot-

Life is sad, but company are company, if Square see that they earn something by giving Geno, sure, if they don't...Ouwtch.
That applies for Sora too, with even more difficulty because of Disney and Square.

That's why getting a Square-Rep, whoever it is, is miraculous.

 

[Luigi The President]

Once again, guys, this thread is for leak discussion. Not for "Why X should be in Smash" or "Predictions" or specific character discussion or anything of the sort. I know we all came from the General Discussion thread, but this ISN'T the general discussion thread.

So the reason I'm keeping some of that in here is because it stems and is inherently connected to leak discussion.
For example, a random wanderer into the Ultimate Discussion thread may be confused as to why I'm listing reasons for Steve, look into it, and get spoiled.
But you're totally right. I'm trying to avoid doing that here more.

I get it, but don't the highest quality leaks also come off as fake? I mean...It is pretty difficult to create high quality images but can be pretty rewarding too. I didn't believe in Agnes leak but when that same OP on 4chan admitting to it being a translating error, I almost believed him...Well, almost, but still...

I want to debunk leaks, as it's my hobby, but this Ken leak is probably the most difficult if it was fake, due to there being no evidence or thing pointing to it being fake... I have to admit that it is real but if it's fake, good work!

Which is why I believe this is real.

 

[I_DON'T_KNOW_YOU!]

May I interrupt for a moment to say something?

I feel like this Ken leak in that image (That one with the little menu which looks like an debug menu) is one of the highest quality in Smash leaks, since Rayman which unfortunately was debunked by the artist himself. Was fun while it lasted.

And that same artist behind the fake Rayman leak (ArtsyOmni) is banking on this Ken leak being real.

 

[Luigi The President]

These leaks have been getting out of hand recently, so I've gathered a list of every character leaked by the following catalogue of leakers:
Vergeben: Decidedly the most reliable of sources here, Vergeben has an amazing track record for both this game and several others. Among many other things, he announced that Snake and Ice Climbers would return, that there would be no cuts from Smash 4, and that Ridley, Isabelle, and Simon Belmont would be added. Due to his reliability, anything he claimed would be in below is in green.
LaPailleDor (1): A leaker on French forum jeuxvideo, LaPailleDor claimed that Chrom, K Rool, Richter, and Simon would be playable, as well as Dracula as a boss and stage morph being an option, all later coming true. However, the mods of the forum claim that these were faked.
LaPailleDor (2): A 4chan leaker who claims to be LaPailleDor, giving several pieces of evidence of his identity.
WhisslBlank (1): More commonly known as the NeoGAF Leaker, WhisslBlank claimed that K Rool, Simon, and Chrom would be added.
WhisslBlank (2): A second NeoGAF account claiming to be WhisslBlank, offering possibly falsified evidence. As this is likely false, and the claim that Galacta Knight will be a Meta Knight echo is already soft-deconfirmed, anything that only he claimed will be in red.
Ken Leaker: A 4chan leaker who posted an image of Ken in the debug mode. This image has been proven time and time again to be watertight.
Loz18: A GameFAQs leaker who claimed that there would be a Smash direct in August that showed a full tour of the menus, that would show three modes, and that there would be a cutscene themed around heroes vs villains (which turned out to be K Rool's reveal trailer).
Senjougahara Hitagi: A leaker who has got several things right about other games. As Vergeben has backed up Senjougahara and claimed that the two share sources, leaks from them will also be in green.

[4] Ken: Vergeben, Ken Leaker (obviously), LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Geno: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Isaac: LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Skull Kid: LaPailleDor (2), Loz18
[2] Sora: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Steve: Vergeben, Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Ayumi Tachibani: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Bandai Namco Character: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Black Shadow: LaPailleDor (1)
[1] Dixie Kong: Loz18
[1] Felix: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Galacta Knight: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Incineroar: Vergeben
[1] Katalina (or other Granblue Character): Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Monster Hunter: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Medusa: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Ninten: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Reimu Hakurei: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Sable Prince: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Shadow: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Soren: WhisslBlank (1)
[1] Terra: WhisslBlank (2)
Italicised Names indicates the leaker was not specific about the character, but there is reason to believe they refer to that character.

Not included is the Richter Leak, as the story behind it is extremely unlikely. It claims that Gothitelle and Gardevoir will be playable.

Problem with this is that Verge and Senjou have only stated there's an SE rep. Not who it is.
We can trace back the specifics to MasterofHyrule.

But otherwise super good work

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

These leaks have been getting out of hand recently, so I've gathered a list of every character leaked by the following catalogue of leakers:
Vergeben: Decidedly the most reliable of sources here, Vergeben has an amazing track record for both this game and several others. Among many other things, he announced that Snake and Ice Climbers would return, that there would be no cuts from Smash 4, and that Ridley, Isabelle, and Simon Belmont would be added. Due to his reliability, anything he claimed would be in below is in green.
LaPailleDor (1): A leaker on French forum jeuxvideo, LaPailleDor claimed that Chrom, K Rool, Richter, and Simon would be playable, as well as Dracula as a boss and stage morph being an option, all later coming true. However, the mods of the forum claim that these were faked.
LaPailleDor (2): A 4chan leaker who claims to be LaPailleDor, giving several pieces of evidence of his identity.
WhisslBlank (1): More commonly known as the NeoGAF Leaker, WhisslBlank claimed that K Rool, Simon, and Chrom would be added.
WhisslBlank (2): A second NeoGAF account claiming to be WhisslBlank, offering possibly falsified evidence. As this is likely false, and the claim that Galacta Knight will be a Meta Knight echo is already soft-deconfirmed, anything that only he claimed will be in red.
Ken Leaker: A 4chan leaker who posted an image of Ken in the debug mode. This image has been proven time and time again to be watertight.
Loz18: A GameFAQs leaker who claimed that there would be a Smash direct in August that showed a full tour of the menus, that would show three modes, and that there would be a cutscene themed around heroes vs villains (which turned out to be K Rool's reveal trailer).
Senjougahara Hitagi: A leaker who has got several things right about other games. As Vergeben has backed up Senjougahara and claimed that the two share sources, leaks from them will also be in green.

[4] Ken: Vergeben, Ken Leaker (obviously), LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Geno: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Isaac: LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Skull Kid: LaPailleDor (2), Loz18
[2] Sora: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Steve: Vergeben, Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Ayumi Tachibani: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Bandai Namco Character: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Black Shadow: LaPailleDor (1)
[1] Dixie Kong: Loz18
[1] Felix: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Galacta Knight: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Incineroar: Vergeben
[1] Katalina (or other Granblue Character): Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Monster Hunter: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Medusa: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Ninten: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Reimu Hakurei: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Sable Prince: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Shadow: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Soren: WhisslBlank (1)
[1] Terra: WhisslBlank (2)
Italicised Names indicates the leaker was not specific about the character, but there is reason to believe they refer to that character.

Not included is the Richter Leak, as the story behind it is extremely unlikely. It claims that Gothitelle and Gardevoir will be playable.

• Richter leak is fake, and I'm glad you didn't include it.
• Whisslbank's first leak is okay, but doesn't leave room for any other echoes besides Ken and Soren at this point. Soren is an unlikely pick regardless. WhisslBank's second (and third) leaks are widely regarded as fake, and I'm glad that you showed that.
• LaPailleDor shot himself in the foot with his most recent leak, and we don't know the veracity of his first one.
• Same principle with loz18. Dude put all of his chips into one bag and it didn't pay off.

Our only credible leakers as of right now are Vergeben and Senjougahara Hitagi by affiliation with Vergeben. Maybe MasterofHyrule as well.

 

[Luigi The President]

• Richter leak is fake, and I'm glad you didn't include it.
• Whisslbank's first leak is okay, but doesn't leave room for any other echoes besides Ken and Soren at this point. Soren is an unlikely pick regardless. WhisslBank's second (and third) leaks are widely regarded as fake.
• LaPailleDor shot himself in the foot with his most recent leak, and we don't know the veracity of his first one.
• Same principle with loz18. Dude put all of his chips into one bag and it didn't pay off.

Our only credible leakers as of right now are Vergeben and Senjougahara Hitagi by affiliation with Vergeben.

Don't forget MasterofHyrule.

 

[Chrono.]

These leaks have been getting out of hand recently, so I've gathered a list of every character leaked by the following catalogue of leakers:
Vergeben: Decidedly the most reliable of sources here, Vergeben has an amazing track record for both this game and several others. Among many other things, he announced that Snake and Ice Climbers would return, that there would be no cuts from Smash 4, and that Ridley, Isabelle, and Simon Belmont would be added. Due to his reliability, anything he claimed would be in below is in green.
LaPailleDor (1): A leaker on French forum jeuxvideo, LaPailleDor claimed that Chrom, K Rool, Richter, and Simon would be playable, as well as Dracula as a boss and stage morph being an option, all later coming true. However, the mods of the forum claim that these were faked.
LaPailleDor (2): A 4chan leaker who claims to be LaPailleDor, giving several pieces of evidence of his identity.
WhisslBlank (1): More commonly known as the NeoGAF Leaker, WhisslBlank claimed that K Rool, Simon, and Chrom would be added.
WhisslBlank (2): A second NeoGAF account claiming to be WhisslBlank, offering possibly falsified evidence. As this is likely false, and the claim that Galacta Knight will be a Meta Knight echo is already soft-deconfirmed, anything that only he claimed will be in red.
Ken Leaker: A 4chan leaker who posted an image of Ken in the debug mode. This image has been proven time and time again to be watertight.
Loz18: A GameFAQs leaker who claimed that there would be a Smash direct in August that showed a full tour of the menus, that would show three modes, and that there would be a cutscene themed around heroes vs villains (which turned out to be K Rool's reveal trailer).
Senjougahara Hitagi: A leaker who has got several things right about other games. As Vergeben has backed up Senjougahara and claimed that the two share sources, leaks from them will also be in green.

[4] Ken: Vergeben, Ken Leaker (obviously), LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Geno: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Isaac: LaPailleDor (1), WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Skull Kid: LaPailleDor (2), Loz18
[2] Sora: Vergeben, WhisslBlank (1)
[2] Steve: Vergeben, Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Ayumi Tachibani: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Bandai Namco Character: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Black Shadow: LaPailleDor (1)
[1] Dixie Kong: Loz18
[1] Felix: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Galacta Knight: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Incineroar: Vergeben
[1] Katalina (or other Granblue Character): Senjougahara Hitagi
[1] Monster Hunter: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Medusa: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Ninten: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Reimu Hakurei: LaPailleDor (2)
[1] Sable Prince: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Shadow: WhisslBlank (2)
[1] Soren: WhisslBlank (1)
[1] Terra: WhisslBlank (2)
Italicised Names indicates the leaker was not specific about the character, but there is reason to believe they refer to that character.

Not included is the Richter Leak, as the story behind it is extremely unlikely. It claims that Gothitelle and Gardevoir will be playable.

Slightly off topic but I just find it hilarious that a possible leaker chose an anime character as his name.

Like can you imagine if some dude called Sasuke Uchiha started leaking **** I don't know if I could handle it.

 

[Nonno Umby]

Don't forget MasterofHyrule.

What did he say? I must have missed this one...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Oh I just remembered

Clock’s ticking on the September 24th Smash Direct leak which said Heihachi and Lloyd, two characters also in the ProtonMail part 1 leak with and Waddle Dee

If the NEW marker over characters disappears in tonight’s update we may indeed get Heihachi and Lloyd and a new Smash direct

Not counting on it tho

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Don't forget MasterofHyrule.

MasterofHyrule is odd though. Dude makes a bold claim and then backpedals. They're worth keeping an eye on, but I wouldn't count on them like I would Vergeben or Senjou.

 

[Nekoo]

Don't forget MasterofHyrule.

MasterofHyrule is either protecting his source
Or a complete idiot for using "4chan/Reddit/Randomwebsite" as source and say "I heard x is coming"

Hopefully it's the first option. But as long as nothing he say is announced, we can"t confirm anything

 

[Gothitelle]

Problem with this is that Verge and Senjou have only stated there's an SE rep. Not who it is.
We can trace back the specifics to MasterofHyrule.

But otherwise super good work

I seperated the Squenix rep into Geno and Sora because of MasterofHyrule saying Geno and the Kingdom Hearts director soft-confirming Sora. However, I felt MasterofHyrule didn't really merit inclusion as a seperate entry.

• Richter leak is fake, and I'm glad you didn't include it.
• Whisslbank's first leak is okay, but doesn't leave room for any other echoes besides Ken and Soren at this point. Soren is an unlikely pick regardless. WhisslBank's second (and third) leaks are widely regarded as fake.
• LaPailleDor shot himself in the foot with his most recent leak, and we don't know the veracity of his first one.
• Same principle with loz18. Dude put all of his chips into one bag and it didn't pay off.

Our only credible leakers as of right now are Vergeben and Senjougahara Hitagi by affiliation with Vergeben.

• Hence WhisslBlank (2) being a seperate entry, as well as any ones only predicted by him being in red. I don't believe it at all, but I felt it worth including them on the off chance.
• LaPailleDor was seperated on the same grounds as WhisslBlank - it is entirely possible they're not the same person.
• I don't feel that we can count Loz18 out just yet.

Clearly we both agree that Vergeben and Hitagi are the two most reliable ones, hence them being put in green.

 

[Luigi The President]

MasterofHyrule is odd though. Dude makes a bold claim and then backpedals. They're worth keeping an eye on, but I wouldn't count on them like I would Vergeben or Senjou.

I call him credible because he's one of the few who genuinely leaked something. Battlefield.

What did he say? I must have missed this one...

Sora, Geno, and Steve.

 

[Gothitelle]

Slightly off topic but I just find it hilarious that a possible leaker chose an anime character as his name.

Like can you imagine if some dude called Sasuke Uchiha started leaking **** I don't know if I could handle it.

One of the now most reliable ones, too!

 

[Luigi The President]

I seperated the Squenix rep into Geno and Sora because of MasterofHyrule saying Geno and the Kingdom Hearts director soft-confirming Sora. However, I felt MasterofHyrule didn't really merit inclusion as a seperate entry.

• Hence WhisslBlank (2) being a seperate entry, as well as any ones only predicted by him being in red. I don't believe it at all, but I felt it worth including them on the off chance.
• LaPailleDor was seperated on the same grounds as WhisslBlank - it is entirely possible they're not the same person.
• I don't feel that we can count Loz18 out just yet.

Clearly we both agree that Vergeben and Hitagi are the two most reliable ones, hence them being put in green.

"soft-confirming Sora" Whoa whoa whoa, back it up (to be read in the voice of Donkey)

If anything that was a soft-deconfirmation. You can't just tweet that your characters in the game like people seem to think he did.
But I suppose that's irrelevant to the point.

Thanks again for compiling all this.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

Oh I just remembered

Clock’s ticking on the September 24th Smash Direct leak which said Heihachi and Lloyd, two characters also in the ProtonMail part 1 leak with and Waddle Dee

If the NEW marker over characters disappears in tonight’s update we may indeed get Heihachi and Lloyd and a new Smash direct

Not counting on it tho

I guarantee you if that leak was real we’d have known about a new Direct already. Plus as far as I can remember Nintendo never does Directs on Mondays, dude should have picked a better date lol.

 

[Nekoo]

If anything that was a soft-deconfirmation. You can't just tweet that your characters in the game like people seem to think he did.

I'll argue it's a neutral point, neither deconfirmation or confirmation because dude's have a past of slip of tongue more than once.

But let's just take it as a "I support Sora" instead of "Whooopsiiie"

 

[Luigi The President]

I'll argue it's a neutral point, neither deconfirmation or confirmation because dude's have a past of slip of tongue more than once.

But let's just take it as a "I support Sora" instead of "Whooopsiiie"

See we talked about this and I pointed out he slipped on entirely in-house, first party games.
Not with a secretive third party collaboration.

But yeah. That's the best way to take it imo.

 

[ChocolatGelgato]

we'd have heard of the direct by now. They're almost always announced the day before.

Protonmail is interesting imo, more correct than most and has reasonable characters, but literally no one else has backed them up like steve and inceneroar have been.

 

[Chrono.]

Yeah Hashimoto's slightly infamous for letting things slip.

But I really doubt this is one of those cases.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Slightly off topic but I just find it hilarious that a possible leaker chose an anime character as his name.

Like can you imagine if some dude called Sasuke Uchiha started leaking **** I don't know if I could handle it.

From Bakemonogatari as well. Sequel to Nisemonogatari, which had such great scenes as:

Spoiler: Lewd

Who's next? Masamune Izumi? Pico? Cory Baxter?

 

[I_DON'T_KNOW_YOU!]

I'm telling you, guys. The only leakers to keep an eye on are Vergeben and Senjougahara__Hitagi. Everyone else can be deemed a false prophet. Master0fHyrule is strictly posting speculation because he has nothing and just needs more traffic to his YouTube channel.

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Man, would it be FUNNY that if, despite having evidences that Geno/Sora/DQ could be Smash, Sakurai just flipped the table and gave us Noctris, Squall, Cactus dude, or some unpopular SE rep.

That will be anti-climatic and hype breaker lol.

 

[Luigi The President]

I'm telling you, guys. The only leakers to keep an eye on are Vergeben and Senjougahara__Hitagi. Everyone else can be deemed a false prophet. Master0fHyrule is strictly posting speculation because he has nothing and just needs more traffic to his YouTube channel.

How many times do I gotta say it. Master0fHyrule genuinely, actually leaked Battlefield pre-E3. Name me another leaker who has actually posted a real image leak before Ken.

If you can show me more of his speculation I'll consider it farther but this just seems silly to throw out.

 

[Nekoo]

Sakurai just flipped the table and gave us Noctris, Squall, Cactus dude, or some unpopular SE rep.

Wouldn't even be mad lmao- Noctis would be dope, as much as his game is in the middle ground with the fan, either a masterpiece or a piece of ****, he would have such a great moveset that write by itself
Squall would be incredible with Cloud.

Watch it as we get Lightning though.

 

[Gothitelle]

Wouldn't even be mad lmao- Noctis would be dope, as much as his game is in the middle ground with the fan, either a masterpiece of a piece of ****, he would have such a great moveset the write itself alone
Squall would be incredible with Cloud.

Watch it as we get Lightning though.

Joke's on you, FF13 is my favourite Final Fantasy

 

[I_DON'T_KNOW_YOU!]

How many times do I gotta say it. Master0fHyrule genuinely, actually leaked Battlefield pre-E3. Name me another leaker who has actually posted a real image leak before Ken.

If you can show me more of his speculation I'll consider it farther but this just seems silly to throw out.

His recent tweets are only speculation -_-

Yes, someone did provide him stage assets before E3. Since then, nothing.

 

[Chrono.]

Man, would it be FUNNY that if, despite having evidences that Geno/Sora/DQ could be Smash, Sakurai just flipped the table and gave us Noctris, Squall, Cactus dude, or some unpopular SE rep.

That will be anti-climatic and hype breaker lol.

Speak for yourself, I'd be extremely excited for Noctis or Squall.

we'd have heard of the direct by now. They're almost always announced the day before.

Protonmail is interesting imo, more correct than most and has reasonable characters, but literally no one else has backed them up like steve and inceneroar have been.

That leak had Lloyd and Heihachi right? Who else were there?

 

[Luigi The President]

His recent tweets are only speculation

Yes, someone did provide him stage assets before E3. Since then, nothing.

I mean...if you can show me where he says it's speculation I'll believe you.
But to my knowledge he's literally stated he heard this from "sources".

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Speak for yourself, I'd be extremely excited for Noctis or Squall.

That leak had Lloyd and Heihachi right? Who else were there?

Only the proton mail leak which had those two also said Simon and Isabelle (confirmed) and (Bandana) Waddle Dee, but the 24th leak itself didn’t mention any other characters besides those two. It did say “more Mario Kart content” though

 

[tveye]

How many times do I have to say it:

Incineroar is in the game as a playable character. There is no trainer, no Rowlet, no Decidueye, no nothing. Just Incineroar.

You seem so sure, mind sharing your proof? A video would be great, but a pic of him in the game would also do well

 

[Nonno Umby]

Man, would it be FUNNY that if, despite having evidences that Geno/Sora/DQ could be Smash, Sakurai just flipped the table and gave us Noctris, Squall, Cactus dude, or some unpopular SE rep.

That will be anti-climatic and hype breaker lol.

Screw that, Cactuar is amazing and he would be rad to have in Smash Bros.
Especially since he was my main in Mario Sports Mix lol

 

[Luigi The President]

Only the proton mail leak which had those two also said Simon and Isabelle (confirmed) and (Bandana) Waddle Dee, but the 24th leak itself didn’t mention any other characters besides those two. It did say “more Mario Kart content” though

No.
It explicitly said Waddle Dee. Not Bandana. Didn't imply otherwise.